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Demanding Moore from Our Front Office

The Vikings are reportedly shopping Mewelde Moore. Moore, 25, is buried on the Vikings depth chart. Minnesota is 1-3 (but with a +8 point differential) and looking towards next year, where a good draft, including a franchise quarterback, could quickly return this team, that is talented on both lines, to respectability in 2008 and contention soon thereafter. Reports are that they are seeking a third round pick for Moore and Moore's only known suitor, Tampa Bay, is offering no more than a sixth round pick. Both the Vikings and the Bucs have every reason to compromise. The Vikings are receiving zero value from Moore as-is, while Tampa Bay is now down to only their former fullback, Ernest Graham, to shoulder the rushing attack of a playoff bound squad. The NFL trade deadline is October 16th.

I've long been a fan of Moore. He's a great receiver and a productive rusher, compactly built and though never so entrusted in the NFL, set school records for touches at Tulane. If Seattle traded for him and split carries between Moore and Maurice Morris, Seattle's rushing attack would be improved. Greatly. Morris is a one cut rusher that gets productive yards but lacks big play or receiving ability. Moore is a scat back type, with great second level speed and excellent hands and yards after catch ability. The two, with Morris only 27, could give Seattle a very effective and very cheap running back committee for the next two years. Cheap is important because Seattle has bank tied up in Shaun Alexander. That would also free up our draft for any number of other needed positions: offensive tackle, cornerback, quarterback, pass rushing tackle, defensive end, safety, guard...you get the drift. In this wondrous world of pragmatic-only GMing, even Alexander would have a place: In the red zone. I honestly think that if Alexander could surpass ten rushing touchdowns this season he would be satisfied in a third string role...

Yeah right. And here's the rub, Seattle already has and has had the players they needed to do exactly what I'm talking about. Alvin Pearman is not as good as Moore, but style and skill wise, he's Moore's doppelganger. Pearman got one touch before being placed on IR. Morris is being promised more touches this week, a near self-fulfilling prophecy against a Saints team Seattle should blow out. I'll plotz if he rushes the ball more than five times in the first half. No, there really isn't a good reason for Tim Ruskell to trade for Moore, despite all the very good reasons to do just that, because Moore won't play. That's really a shame, because Moore is even a Ruskell guy. A hard worker, he earned a double major at Tulane. A community guy, he received the Community Service Award for Business Ethics his senior season. He's even a bit of a brain, a member of the National Honor Society and a Mathematics Merit Award Winner. Academics is one of the reasons he picked Tulane over more prominent football schools like LSU and Southern Mississippi.

Moore has never been seriously injured. When I started writing this my attitude was resigned, as I'm typing this sentence my attitude is blossoming into full on pissed. Moore makes so much sense for so many reasons. He improves Seattle in 2007 and beyond. Even if Seattle served up a third round pick, it could be justified given that Seattle must look to draft a running back next year anyway. I've done my best to stay above all the hand wringing that's been done about Shaun Alexander. To me, his play has been predictable. All the sentimentality, loyalty and contrarily character assassination and doomsaying that's punctuated both ends of the Alexander argument is little more than foofaraw. He's just not a very good running back anymore. Any and really all reasonable forecasts predicted that long before even the preseason. What's noteworthy, though, is just how bad he has so quickly become. His name, his contract and his impact on the Hawks' gift shop should not be held above the Hawks chances of title contention, but they will be. All I can think, however futile, is to spread the word, make some noise. We demand more than a broken down once good running back, we demand more than a one dimensional offense, we demand more than complacency in light of a crumbling contender, we demand more than a first round exit and another offseason watching our stars grow old, our window close.

Seahawks Fans Demand Moore.

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Production Trends by the Numbers
Player 2007 Rushing DVOA 2007 Receiving DVOA 2006 Rushing DV0A 2006 Receiving DVOA 2005 Rushing DVOA 2005 Receiving DVOA
Shaun Alexander -10.9% -50.6% -13.5% -81.8% 22.3% -19.7%
Maurice Morris -3.5% N/A -11.2% -52.8% 10.7% N/A
Mewelde Moore 116.6% -5.0% 33.4% 7.0% 1.9% 25.6%

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Perfect world? Maybe.
But there is no way I want us to give up a 3rd rounder for someone who would basically run back kickoffs and ride the pine.

by Eegah on Oct 10, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

And there's the frustration.
Even if the deal was done, coach probably wouldn't play the guy. My frustration with our running game is with the coach and his stuborness. I have no hate for Shaun. Unlike others, I think he is trying his best he just doesn't have the ability to bring it. I used to feel sorry for Bears fans having to endure Grossman. Now I feel sorry for myself.
More MoMo

by Harrison @ Field Gulls on Oct 10, 2007 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like the FO missed this memo...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/334923_hmoves11.html

instead of getting a cheap, young FB in Moore, we're getting a 35 year-old ex-Falcon FB - Fred McCrary.

not exactly what we had in mind...

"For the first time in a long time I don't NEED to look forward to football season...go M's!"

by wwbaker3 on Oct 10, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I know.
Long snappers and backup fullbacks; I like Tim Ruskell, but perhaps he could tune his fiddle another time.

by John Morgan on Oct 10, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good idea, but...
I think Eegah's right that if we got Moore now he wouldn't play much this year, barring more substantial injuries to Alexander and Morris.  This is in part due to Holmgren's stubbonness, but also his reticence to play guys soon after they arrive in Seattle.  Seems like he, even more than most coaches, likes to let guys get some time with the team before they get significant playing time.

The question then is whether Moore's value to the team next year and beyond is worth a third (or maybe fourth, if Timmy can talk down the Vikes) round pick.  I just don't know.  Seems like some teams (see Broncos) are able to snag starting-calibre, every-down backs that low in the draft.  And that may be particularly true for the 'Hawks, whose system does not require the biggest workhorse type of guy.

If we believe that this season may be the last, best chance for the Seahawks to win a Superbowl with Matt Hasselbeck as QB, then it makes sense to roll the dice in an effort to improve the running game NOW.  However, Holmgren shows no indication of an interest in mixing things up in that regard.  Given that lamentable fact, I do not think trading for Moore makes sense.      

by jeager on Oct 10, 2007 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

This team has a very good shot of making the...
playoffs. So as long as Moore could contribute by then, I don't mind too much if it takes some time to get him into the lineup. He'd also contribute to the Hawks next season and beyond.

One more note before I get back to researching Isbella the She Wolf. Seattle's running back depth is suddenly very thin. Maurice Morris has been in and out and Alexander is hurt and could easily suffer a much more meaningful injury at any time. Remember his foot is still gimpy, he's thirty and missed time just last season. Even if Moore doesn't get a ton of touches right away, he provides invaluable versatility and depth at the running back position.

And yes, I'm pretty sure Seattle could get away with trading for Moore for something less than a third round pick. Maybe a fourth round pick with a sixth round pick sent back to the Hawks. The Vikings gain nothing by keeping Moore and as long as the Hawks can outbid the Bucs, they should be in the catbird seat for Moore's services.

by John Morgan on Oct 10, 2007 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

A potentially good idea, but is it worthwhile NOW?
Let me start by saying I have been a very avid supporter of Shaun and it almost hurts me to see him struggle like this. Regardless of the excuses, the hate and the negative controversy around his level of competitiveness, he's been the most successful RB in Seattle history, and I've been very grateful to watch him perform.

I know of Moore, and i agree about several points as far as what he could bring to our team. Our backfield has absolutely zero success in the passing game, and if there's one thing even in his prime Alexander gave me fits about, it was his inability to be successful in that area.

But again, if RB is a need, and unless Alexander resurges, it IS an obvious need, i personally feel we shouldn't trade away too many draft picks to pick up yes, a great person and potentially solid player, but still someone who hasn't seen significant experience as a starter in this league.

Next year's draft has alot of potential for some solid RB prospects. I'm personally high on Jonathon Stewart for numerous reasons, his size/speed, combined with him being a local boy makes it even more interesting. The way things are going though, he'll probably be off the board.

Bottom line, i think if it's for the right price, and i don't feel a 3rd rounder is the right price, then sure, let's do it.

But before that, it's hard for me to assume Alexander fell off THIS dramatically. Weren't camp reports very high on him? That he was in great shape? I don't know. But he just seems so tentative in his running, it's almost boggling.

Shaun

by J Hens on Oct 10, 2007 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

this years draft is loaded with RB's
not to mention Michael Turner will be a FA. Let's say all goes well this season and they pick towards the end of the first round, they can get a potentially franchise RB, and then there's guys that should be available after the first that are very good, Ian Johnson and Mike Hart comes to mind. I am also a big fan in Jonathan Stewart, and I think there's a good chance the Hawks could draft him. Steve Slaton anyone, either of the Arkansas backs, (prolly not Mcfadden)? My point is this years draft is loaded with RB's, and we should'nt give up a third rounder for a guy who will most likly not play much.

John, I don;t really see why you think a franchise QB should be drafted. Matt is still relativly young and playing very well. I don;t think a high round pick should be used on a QB that will be sitting on the bench for a while, just look at Aaron Rogers

by Joeshow12 on Oct 10, 2007 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Because it takes 5 years for a QB
to master the west coast offense. You get someone in there now and by the time Matt is finished our new QB will have a handle on things.
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 11, 2007 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dillon
I asked this in a diary.  I heard the Dillon has stayed in shape and that he rejected Tampa's offer because he didn't want to play there, not because he doesn't want to play.  

Is there any value in a guy like that?  He's younger than I thought he was, and I was always impressed with his running.

by Snuffleupagus on Oct 11, 2007 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Shouldn't the jump text read:
"Click 'Read Moore' For the Rest"?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 11, 2007 7:36 AM PDT reply actions  

By the way
The Bucs signed Zack Crockett.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 11, 2007 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

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