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Game Day Open Thread -- Exhibition Week 3: Seattle 30, Minnesota 13

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August 25, 2007, 6pm Pacific
Qwest Field
KING-TV (5)

Poison Pill Bowl II: This time it means diddly-squat. Free candy for the kids. Enjoy.

SEA!!!!
HAWKS!!!!

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Frank Gore doesnt impress me as
much as he probably should.  I dont know why but im not feeling him like everyone else seems to.  

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Opinion.
Gore is a very good rusher and Moran Norris is a very good lead blocker, but Gore's middling receiving skills and history of injuries keeps me from considering him a truly elite running back.

My point WRT to Peterson/Gore is that both have similar skill sets (patient, good cut-back ability, can break tackles) and both come from good run blocking teams with good lead blockers (Kleinsasser) that the Hawks speedy, aggressive front seven has had troubles with. Especially the -Tubbs version. With Tubbs getting 10-15 snaps and Mebane getting some looks with the first team defense we should get some idea of how the Hawks will do against Gore by seeing how they do against Peterson.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhhh
i see what your getting at now

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Image of the Day
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 25, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One problem, that's Ken Hamlin.
Damn do I wish we re-signed him for nothing instead of breaking the bank for Grant.

I know it's preseason, but I'm pretty jacked for this game. Game 3 is like the preseason NIT in NCAA basketball, it doesn't count against the standings, but it tells you something about the team.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the 3rd pre-season game is the most important
then things have looked good so far.  The Rams looked very pedestrian in losing to Oakland. And the niners are looking like us in the sunday night game against the bears, 17-0 in the 1st.  Grossman is lighting them up.
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 5:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

shut up mfan
do you really think the real rams couldn't score a TD against the raiders?
Coach Owens is better than you.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the real rams?
there is a fake rams team?  Can they play during the regular season?
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
last night was the jackson-less rams. kind of like the rams john talks about having no depth.
Coach Owens is better than you.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok
I didn't know Jackson wasn't playing, that certainly changes things.
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
just a lot.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah its
there inability to to perform anything on offense which bites them in the ass

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOO HOO FUMBLE!!
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

go for it
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

some good kick-offs by Brown
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Hass is back
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

a touchdown please
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nate
looked pretty damn nice on that punt return

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

should be at least 10-0
stop sucking Shaun
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

shauns got lt envy
doesnt want to show up for preseason

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 6:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Our run D has looked very stout.
I'd like to see a lot more pass pressure though.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 6:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

run D looks awesome
pass D does not.
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

woohoo shank o rama
our abilty to control field goal attempts with our mind works too

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 6:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah
thats been like a babys diaper... crappy

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

shaun with a 5 yard catch
does he have that many rushing yards this pre-season?
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Locklear is looking pretty good
right now at LT
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 25, 2007 6:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the rush is all coming up the middle.
That's what you get with two space-eater tackles.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also
I'm going to love watching Josh Wilson blitz the QB

So far Trufant has been playing at a different level this pre season (at least I think so)

V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 25, 2007 6:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

for those like me that cant' watch right now
the game is on NFL network at 10pm
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Morris has looked yards better than Alexander...
in basically every phase of the game this preseason.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 6:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

damn
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 6:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael Vick Scrambling.
What, they couldn't update that commercial?

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Now he will literaly
be running to save his butt... from being violated

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't the Vikings
do that trick play stuff against us last season?
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 7:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lundquist: "Trickeration."
That's why you get paid, Verne.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Verne's doing this for *money*?
I thought it was just one of his home's scheduled outings, like to the museum.

(Sorry, I shouldn't make old jokes.)

(He just made some pretty laughable gaffes last week.)

--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

shaun with an 11 yard run??...hey now
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 7:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey now! a TD!
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to see a sack.
I want to see a pick. I want Kerney to earn his money.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I woudlnt mind seeing tapp
get all up in the qb's grill

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson and Trufaunt
showing some good coverage, specially marcus

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 7:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Wilson looked that good in the play
the announcers claimed he had good coverage. His back was turned, he didn't know where the ball was and he probably could have been called for interference.

Wilson's skill-set was designed for zone coverage, but without the pass rush zones sort of lose their teethe.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recapping the first half:
  • Tavaris Jackson fumbles on the first snap of the game--Hawks recover. Field Goal
  • The Hawks run D has looked very strong. Tubbs/Darby have effectively stuffed the middle.
  • Trufant has been 90% strong, but is still having trouble with play fakes.
  • The Hawks are not generating pass rush.
  • Hasselbeck has been in top form. The interception was a case of excellent coverage by Antoine Winfield.
  • Locklear is proving competent at left tackle. Willis, serviceable at right.
  • Alexander is a very poor pass blocker. His stats look decent, but he looks slow. This is a very tough run defense, which must be considered, but I'm of the opinion that if Morris gets some looks in the second half he will prove himself the superior back: Better pass blocking, better receiving and more consistent, more efficient running.

All in all, the Hawks have been superior team. The weak running attack has cost them in the red zone.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just about to draft on espn for jerramy stevens
i have the fourth pick (gore land). its going to be painful.
Coach Owens is better than you.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 7:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

heh, if my last draft coming up next week
slots me in the 9th or 10th pick ill go for stevens

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly
i was pissed about being fourth cuz i wanted higher, but then i realized i needed to be farther down so i have an early second round pick (watch this be the highest i get in my 5 drafts).
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vick is dead to me.
Whatever he wants to do with his dwindling fortune is his own goddamn business.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was a joke
i agree whole-heartdly though.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 7:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

<-- Sharp tongue
<-- Very dark sense of humor

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Tubbs out?
Run D sure looks different all asudden.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 7:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha
i don't think anyone is acutally at my draft. this might go okay.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 7:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Round?
What's your roster look like?

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it just started
i have the fourth pick.     ill keep you posted.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh shit
my draft froze and picked gore........time to get into a new one.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Koutouvides sure tries.
Too bad he's just not very athletically talented--relatively speaking, of course.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

all right
now im set.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3rd pick this time
addai land.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey now!
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 8:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty too.
Wallace captures a little redemption.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
all the morons are in the draft room are like WTF
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, I look forward to watching the tape this week
Last week was a slog:

Blown Block: Ashworth
Blown Block: Ashworth
< sigh >
Blown Block: Ashworth (Fumble, TD)

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, Moon Stumbles into Eloquence:
"Reckless abandon" is a pretty good description of special teams play.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd pick (18th overall)
maurice jones-drew.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3rd pick (23rd overall)
cedric benson.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, Weaver. You're not helping yourself.
Too bad too, some of this is just bad luck.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

weaver is
being a bag of suck this pre season

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 8:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Watch this:
The local media is going to excoriate Weaver.

It's so frustrating.

Weaver's had some gaffes, some glaring screw-ups, but his ability to receive out of the backfield is invaluable to Holmgren's offense. Instead of burying Weaver, we should be rooting for him, highlighting his accomplishments. His screw-ups have been very poorly timed, often resulting in big turnovers, but he's never had a fumble problem and without a sliver of improvement he's still three times the pass blocker Shaun Alexander is.

Nothing can be accomplished by calling Weaver out, but he will be because it's cheap, an easy story, something that resonates without a moments thought.

It's so frustrating.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th pick (38th overall)
lee evans.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way
We're 7th on Wednesday. Dead center.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, responding to Morgan
We have the 7th pick in the Sports Blog Nation draft on Wednesday night.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep
It's gonna be a fun night. And I'll be in Victoria, Canada, on vacation. This is what I do on vacation. Draft two teams at once.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well thats good to hear
it was him and walker down to the last second but then i figured i could still get vince young in the next round so took walker anyway five picks later.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5th pick (43rd overall)
javon walker.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet goal line stand
stopping plus causing a fumble

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 8:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wade threw that into, what?, quadruple coverage.
But, still, nice pick by Herring. That's the kind of coverage skills he needs to show to win a job as a nickel LB.

by John Morgan on Aug 25, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha
some douche took a D/ST in the sixth round.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If it's the Ravens I *might* understand
Maybe they'll get Vinatiari in the 7th!!!

(heh heh)

--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
some idiot took josh brown in the second last night in the seahawks asian friends league that wwbaker3 posted about.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rule #1 in Fantasy Football
If you draft a kicker, ANY kicker, before the absolute LAST round, you should be forced to forfeit one game as punishment.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i took one in the seventh last night
because everyone was taking them and i had to grab one.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A run on placekickers?
Sounds like a fun bunch-a guys! heh
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wwbakers league
"dedicated"
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That shit was funny
and he took mo morris in the 8th round, and senaca in the 12th round.  

by wadswerth on Aug 26, 2007 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5th pick (58th overall)
the better jeremy that's also a tight end.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

heh, in the draft wwbaker did i took a defense
in the 6th round, but it was part of my grand scheme of radness, i caused a run on defenses that got people off there game

by wadswerth on Aug 25, 2007 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i wasnt fazed. i had a GREAT draft last night.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

great goal line stand!
sweet way to cap this bad boy off!
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

6th pick (63rd overall)
vince young.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good move.
That's about where I'd take 'im.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay
i need to fill my W/R spot.......terry gleen or kevin jones/mike bell/tatum bell.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

either Glenn or Jones
Slight edge to Glenn in my opinion.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 minute warning
YOU'VE ALL BEEN WARNED
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

8th pick (79th overall)
reggie brown.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

9th pick (83rd overall)
matt leinart.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey who got hurt
I flipped back to the game and the announcers were saying we would let you know after the game
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 25, 2007 9:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a Viking
Name sounded Slavic.
--Shrug

by Shrug on Aug 25, 2007 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

10th pick (98th overall)
san diego chargers.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

11th pick (103rd overall)
greg jennings.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nice win
I'm excited to watch the game tonight
Josh Brown is better than you.

by MFAN on Aug 25, 2007 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

12th pick (118th overall)
michael turner.

this is a casualty of the stevens challenge. he is my third RB.

Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

13th pick (123rd overall)
kevin curtis.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

14th pick (138th overall)
anthony thomas.
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

okay hurry up
pick your WR flier

drew bennett

devin hester

ronald curry

derrike mason

joe juervicius.

Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

16th and final pick (158th overall)
stephen gostkowski
Aaron Walker kicks ass.

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 25, 2007 9:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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