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The Tape: 3rd Qtr: Calm

Maybe I'm just grumpy. The hours I've been keeping would give Millay pause. But I refuse to believe I'm the only one who doesn't give a crap about Seattle's supposed "homecoming". So Mike Holmgren was the coach of the Packers, 9 years ago, and Matt Hasselbeck was once on the Packer's roster, as Favre's backup. Was the Hawks contest in Atlanta a homecoming then, too? Tim Ruskell was once their assistant GM and Kern - oh wait, they really did run that angle, didn't they? Anyway, I won't turn this into a full-blown tirade, but let me say once and for all, I watch football, I watch sports, for the sport, not the underlying soap opera.

Very slow quarter, a few notes, and then I'll throw up the Tape for the wild and wacky fourth quarter in a little bit.

  • I'm not a scouting genius, I just watch the tapes, take notes and present my best possible opinion. In the second quarter, on the second play of the Hawks second to last drive, I jotted down a little asterisk and wrote: "Alex looks slow again." After having a pretty nice start to the game, this run seemed to signal to me that Shaun Alexander was hitting a wall, winded, breaking down, pick your cliché. Here's Alexander's rushing line from that point onward: 0, 1, 3, 0, 4, 8, 3, 2, 0, -3. Alexander was also targeted on two pass plays: 0, -1. So, the question is, ignoring the insanity of Alexander being targeted in the passing game, if I can tell that Alexander is clearly out of gas, and, at the very least, should be spelled for a couple series, why then did Morris and Weaver have 2 combined touches from that point onward? The Hawks offense looked awful on Saturday, and, clearly, Hasselbeck was in his full, atavistic, circa 2001 splendor, but Alexander, riding Alexander, is killing this rushing game. If the Hawks want to make a surprise Super Bowl run, they must stop forfeiting an entire offensive unit because of loyalty/apathy/incompetence.
  • Leroy Hill rocks. Being able to chase down Clinton Portis, coming from the right end to a rush being run around left end, is just something else. He's also improved markedly in coverage. On back-to-back pass receptions by the Skins, Hill held close coverage and then, kind of counterintuitive really, broke his tackle. Hill's a good tackler, who can hit, he's developed into a good coverage linebacker, but I guess he's yet to combine those skills. But, you know what, I think he can. And then, like Lance Briggs, he should be able to force fumbles by laying the wood to preening slot receivers.
  • Rock obviously showed up at just the right time in the 4th quarter. I decided to give him extra focus, see if one play was his "breakout": Proof that he was beginning to win his matchup. In the 7th play of the Skins final drive of the 3rd, I thought I saw it. First viewing, I see Fabini getting ripped apart by a maddog Seahawks tackle and think "bingo" Bernard's back. But, nope, it was Mebane nailing a stunt. Bane takes a couple slow steps left, offensive right, bends his knees and then just explodes into Fabini, driving him back towards Collins quick enough and decisively enough that Collins is forced to check down. Now, an 8 yard reception to El on first and 10 is by no means a success for the Hawks defense, but it was nice play, nevertheless.
  • Finally, further proof that Brian Russell rots. It's 4th and 1, the Skins are on the Hawks 27, a stop for Seattle gives them the ball and a 13 point lead with about 16:00 minutes left in regulation. Important, yousay? The Hawks D is in a base formation, the Skins run a PA out of a heavy package. Russell reads the PA, at the line of scrimmage assumes man coverage on Sellers, and then is Cajun cooked by Washington's 32 y/o, 284 pound fullback. That Russell had to interfere with Sellers to prevent a touchdown reception is, is, - Jesus, Russell, it's just pathetic.  Russell pitches a fit to the official, but on replay you can see Russell grabbing Sellers' leg with his right arm. A real "heady" move by a player that would make a better coach.

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yeah...
I've been defensive about people taking what I think gratuitous shots at Alexander (as if he somehow broke down on purpose) but Saturday's rotation was just silly. It was pretty clear, we got what we were going to get from Alexander early in the game.

In some respects the coaching staff has yet to put together a "complete" game this season. When the game plan is right, the play-calling (at least in stretches) is spotty. (For example, Matt throws passes to the flats to his backs very poorly--always has--but some weeks Holmgren is infatuated with that call.) Other times, the substitution patterns are all wrong.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 7, 2008 11:33 AM PST   0 recs

Holmgren Way
Thats the only reason its a big deal
V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 7, 2008 11:48 AM PST   0 recs

For me personally
I've actually enjoyed the Holmgren/Favre stuff.  I don't think it will have an impact on the game or anything, but it's cool to hear how much influence Holmgren had on Favre and the admiration that they still have for each other.
Josh Brown is better than you. The Rest of the team is worse.

by MFAN on Jan 7, 2008 12:00 PM PST   0 recs

Russel
John, Can you elaborate on what specifically happened when you say "that he had to interfere to ..prevent interception is ..pathetic". I don't remember that play, are you saying that he couldn't stop him with legal tackling methods?

by paul2 on Jan 7, 2008 1:16 PM PST   0 recs

He was beat.
Like Randy Moss beats cornerbacks. He had a step on him and a clear path to the endzone. Except Russell was beat by a fullback.

by John Morgan on Jan 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

re-Russel
I see. He takes bad angles, huh. Who else could we plug in?

by paul2 on Jan 7, 2008 1:30 PM PST   0 recs

Maybe Babs, but I wouldn't do that.
He's the best Seattle has for now, no reason to risk something in the divisional round, y'know. But it's not just bad routes, the guy's painfully slow.

by John Morgan on Jan 7, 2008 1:48 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Why not Mike Green?
Wasn't he supposed to start last year?

Wilson and Nickel, and Green taking over for Russell seems like the best defense we could put on the field.  If the upgrade is there, why not take it?

by BrettJMiller on Jan 8, 2008 1:23 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, Mike Green somehow is the forgotten
man. I have to honestly admit, I never think to watch him when the Seahawks are in dime coverage. What's his deal, John?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phildopip on Jan 8, 2008 7:35 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Saturday was an anomoly
Saturday was an anomoly in 2 huge ways, that we had a truly inconsistent offense for most of the game, and despite having horrible rushing attack, we won from our defense in the playoffs. Yes we have won based on defense before, but we can't count on that on the road, so bottom line we could really use a rushing attack. (which we actually have but don't use enough. (At the risk of repetition here, use Mo.Mo + Weaver!).

by paul2 on Jan 7, 2008 2:04 PM PST   0 recs

The frustration with Holmgren not using Mo and
Weaver, at least equal to 37, continues as I always knew it would. Look for SA to get an even greater share of the carries against GB and for the next two years as well...I fully expect it. How's that for a depressing thought?

Is it possible you're not giving credit to Russell when it's due? I remember him having a great tackle on Portis in the game. Also, let's be honest, the D is not getting burned with the deep ball this year like last year, which is the reason he was brought in; His tackle on Stephen Jackson at the end of the Rams game on third down saved game for us.  

by Harrison on Jan 7, 2008 4:58 PM PST   0 recs

So thats Holmgrens fault how?
Stump Mitchell controls the RB substitutions

And we should cut Brian Russell some slack because he has made 2 tackles? Have you seen the angles he takes in run support? Of course nothing goes over his head because he play so freaking deep.

V. 1.0, mutherf***er, know what I'm sayin'?

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 7, 2008 8:59 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I agree
with the bad angle stuff and he can get smoked by most recievers. However, you will see Russell helping out a lot with the defensive adjustments and while he may not be an asset himself I do think he makes the defense better by being out on the field. I've read he's very good at reading offenses apparently. Chad and TJ know this, I think they talked about it in their post-game conference. I know John mentioned that he might be better suited as a coach at this point, and that could very well be true, but I would much rather have Russell out there than Boulware.

by man on soap box on Jan 7, 2008 9:27 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Better Russell than Boulware...
I think I give Russell credit when he deserves it. I know he does some stuff that doesn't show up, but I'm always pretty wary of players better known for their "mental game". If it's not something that I can prove, even provide evidence, meaningful evidence, one way or another for, I think it's very suspect. I can see Grant making plays on deep passes, Russell a few times yes, but the preponderance of play from Russell has been pretty bad. Getting beat by a FB is pretty bad. Something I wouldn't expect to happen to almost any DB in the NFL.

by John Morgan on Jan 8, 2008 2:46 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I hear where you're coming from.
When I found out Russell was white I inwardly groaned. Gotta have physical tools in the NFL to succeed. I just know Hawks aren't getting beat deep this year, which is why he was brought in - not for run support. In addition I have seen him make some notable tackles, and to be fair I've seen people shed him like a flea a few times as well. But overall I think he's been an asset.

by Harrison on Jan 9, 2008 10:17 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Oh I get it.
Holmgren - "Hey Stump, what do you think about giving Mo and Weaver more of the rushing load...ya know a little less Shaun."

Stump - "Don't you ever ask me to play anybody else except for Shaun! Got it? I decide who gets the carries...not you!"

Who holds the title of head coach? And when the the head coach deflects criticism about rushing personell and who gets rushes to the running back coach, think once again - WHO'S THE HEAD COACH.

by Harrison on Jan 9, 2008 9:59 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah perhaps we should if one of the tackles
resulted in a game won.

by Harrison on Jan 9, 2008 10:07 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

You're overvaluing the tackler and...
undervaluing the team. The team D made the stop, Russell got the tackle, but if not him it could have been whoever else would be playing his position. It was hardly an incredible play by Russell, the real highlight was the entire D stuffing the pile. It's like giving Bloomquists credit for a game winning dink single and not Ichiro for hitting the triple ahead of him.

by John Morgan on Jan 10, 2008 2:44 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

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