Game Thread: Packers @ Seahawks 2
We all know Charlie Frye sucks, but does he suck more throwing the ball or not throwing at all? Frye has six attempts, and the Packers have stacked the box with impunity. I admit, I don't know the right decision.
Right now, the Packers have the ball, and given it's a tied game, the advantage. They are also playing better than Seattle. That turnover was balls, but counting on turnovers is losing football. Besides, who would you count on for the next turnover Charlie Frye or Aaron Rodgers?
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Since it's half time
And I’m new (posting) here, I just wanted to say a bit thank you to John Morgan in general, Field Gulls is awesome.
We're not awesome
We’re Legendary
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I need a pressure washer
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Yes!!!!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
A happy medium somewhere in there..
6 attempts isn’t nearly enough, at least let the defense guess if we’re going to throw or run.
They gotta start playing some simple throwing plays
Even getting a few 3-4 yard completions will help.
Towards the open end
Wind?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Rocky and Mebane should never get taken out
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ya a couple of times
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
jb3
It just hit me that the kick Josh Brown hit today in Washington kinda reminds me of the one he didn’t make during the Super Bowl season. Too bad his team this year sucks.
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Huh a well disguised blitz?
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Only one kicker is making this team and his name is Chris Hansen
Shoulder has to be bothering him some
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay seriously
do something about the chinstraps, NFL.
A seminar on how to buckle them correctly?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
rookie symposium
The young’uns must be taught.
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ok today on the list is
- How to avoid Bar confirmation
- Guns… Don’t carry them
- Oh and this is how you buckle your chinstrap
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
ha ha
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
um.
confrontation, right? I got the feeling the football players were trying to be lawyers?
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oh dammit
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
well hey
Maybe the rookies just have really high career aspirations.
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I like the physical play though
Kind of a catch 22
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
holding on hobbs
Calvin needs to transmogrify that holding call or something.
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RUN RUN RUN RUN
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BOOOOOOOOOOOO
Penalties are really bad this year, or is it just my imagination and we always had this many?
watch the cards game, yea...
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
thats a finicky call
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How was there not a flag on that punt?
No holding there?
Already got rid of the spam John? Brian?
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beat me to it
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn Crowd noise
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
5 yard penalty
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
They believe in him
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Trufant!
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What the hell was Grant doing?
Oh nevermind he was covering the RB
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So apparently as long as we are at home
and the opposing QB can’t throw farther than 20 yards our defense is quite stingy.
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
and we have a 3rd string qb playiung...
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
playing*
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
good gracious...
You know what the sad thing is? Someone has to win this game.
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They used The Ecstacy of Gold
For the song. Which is awesome cause it was the opening song for Metallica’s S&M Album. Live with the Chicago Symphony
the team rallies around him
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer calling him Black Julius...
tho, i guess that would make him BJ…nevermind
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Oct 12, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He got beat
but they didn’t send Russell on a safety blitz who actually got good pressure. It was just a perfect throw
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
over*
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
sarcasim...
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't see a 2nd one but its up to you
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
three strikes is washington law isnt it?
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks besty buddy
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
cause were only down 7 with Frye at QB?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Honest question from a football layman:
Considering the state of our offense (specifically the play we knew we were going to get at QB) is it unreasonable for me to want our offensive gameplan to not basically boil down to “West Coast Offense Beta”?
I mean, the Dolphins had two RB so they started running the Wildcat. Where is that methodology of thought? Is this a case of an older coach who’s had great success in the past having his Way and sticking to it? Am I asking for something that cannot be delivered?
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
I think you answered your own question.
“Is this a case of an older coach who’s had great success in the past having his Way and sticking to it?”
Holmgren doesn’t do Wildcat. He begrudgingly accepted the shotgun.
So old succesful coach unwilling to break mold to fit roster.
Got it.
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
How is our offense not fit to run the West Coast?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'm thinking for this one game
We don’t really have anyone to run it.
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
not Jennings
the football gods have been taunting us all season.
Let's get those green gloves going.
Carlson*
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Frye needs to get rid of the fucking ball
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Get a fucking turnover
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Int would be nice...
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Fantasy superstar
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I stated him :)
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
started*
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
thats it
pants are coming off
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Shirt off.. now
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to the S.S. Failboat
Our destination is Seattle and your captain is Mike Holmgren
naw
rotating captaincy…lots of ineptitude in Seattle sports right now. Captain Greg Nickels.
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I feel like one of those last two throws out of bounds (or near it)
should have had a holding penalty.
really really really?
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packers' gameplan
it should be:
1st down – knee
2nd down – knee
3rd down – some crazy pass that gets a first down
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sorry but I lol'd
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
By Packers
I assume you mean any team that’s gone against the Seahawks D 2006-2008?
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
well
You could count 2004 as well.
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Laptop + No pants = Balls soup
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Yum
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
GET A FUCKING STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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warn him
will give 4 today
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
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You knew what was coming why can't you stop it?
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Haha
JC just said. “They want to spread you out, and pound you inside”
Wow
This was just said
“They just want to spread you out and pound you inside.”
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Not sure
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
For the record.
I went back to the DVR.
“They want to be able to spread you out and pound you inside. The Seahawks got pounded, their ass is numb”
Just blitz every fucking play
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11 man blitz!
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
huh
of course Russell was there
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moonman
I abhor Moon as a radio guy, but he did say the Packers have run that 3rd-down play three times today. He’s actually being kind of critical. Perish the thought.
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Lets just open the playbook to frye and see what happens
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just continually throw long passes down the field
green bay is just sitting knowing that seattle will not stretch the field
do we have anyone to stretch the field?
by the time engram or robinson gets down there frye will have been sacked.
Let's get those green gloves going.
Hey Brian there isn't anyone to your right
That would be the sideline
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Or JJ runs his heart out...
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They believe
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
say no more...
Ah, yes.
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Ok the real question
Can we break 50 yards passing this game?
Is Seneca physically out?
If he’s in shotgun just standing and waiting that’s better then Charlie Frye, right?
Everyone that
responds to this awesome…
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is*
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Hansen enjoys mens company
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
JI?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow that might of been the worse coverage I have ever seen from Russell
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how do the coaches
not notice this?
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think my Wife just got home and my pants are still off
This could be odd or awesome.
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If you were an offensive coordination planning against us
would you just setup a gameplan that involves throwing the ball to whomever Russel covers?
seems to be the case
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
lament
This is probably the point where we wish we would have kept David Greene. Ha.
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Confused by the coverage?
Hes just fucking blind
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the last time that happend...
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by Chris Hansen on Oct 12, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
We got screwed over and our hearts ripped out in the last game of the season.
Finished your sentence for you.
well then
Thank goodness I don’t have to work tomorrow. Unfortunately, my car’s in the shop, so I can’t drive away my sorrows like I used to after playoff losses.
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finally a sack
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I can throw a wicked 5 yd spiral
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
not that i care
…but man, would that crush what’s left of Charlie Frye’s self-esteem.
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This is how I feel right now
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/rawill1007/fatuglypeople1.jpg
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I hate being a Seattle sport fan
Thank god I’m not a UW or WSU fan.
I fucking hate you Mariners
yup...
No wild-cards coming out of the NFC West. Reminds me of the AL West, really.
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why?
we could/ should still beat the Cards twice. That gets us closer by 2 games. No way the 9ers keep this up.
Let's get those green gloves going.
The optimist in me wants to wait this out
The wife wants to go for a walk but the pants are still off so that isn’t going to happen
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I'm in California so I'm getting 9er game.
My question: Is the home crowd booing this defense/team yet? 1-4 is unacceptable
Let's get those green gloves going.
in a way
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
roughing the passer
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holding the football
and dropping back to far
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously
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"Goddamnit Frye, you're throwing like a 3rd string QB!"
Frye – “But I am a 3rd string QB”
Holmgren – “Don’t make the Walrus angry!”
I can't help but laugh
cause I don’t want to cry with my pants off
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To sum up what we've learned today:
Charlie Frye is bad.
Seahawks are bad too.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Ouch...Washington teams are 2-14 (soon 15)
Huskies 0-5
Coug’s 1-6
’hawks 1-3 (soon 4)
what a nice win that was
Any time you can start 2-0, it’s great, but when you beat the Flames twice, it’s wonderful.
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as bad as washington is
I wont comprimise my values and allow them in
Let's get those green gloves going.
How did the whole team self-destruct over the off season.
It’s incredible really
Someone has to get fired after this game
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I really really hope
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Fire the towel boy?
Or let’s try to put in the waterboy at LB, and watch him lead the nation in sacks, only to turn into an Arab hairdresser that you ‘dont’ mess with’.
Cut Plackimeier
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
from not-too-distant past
I don’t know if this is one of those seasons where you think your team has hit rock bottom, but then rock bottom ends up happening a few more times. I can tell you that as a fan of last year’s team of Canucks, it really is not pretty.
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Has engram dropped 3 passes?
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2 were catchable
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
true
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
sheesh
Even Raible and Moon are wondering where Plackemeier is right now. Bring back Ken Walter, or whatever the guy’s name after Rouen was.
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THERE IS NO FLOOR!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Run WHITEY!!!!!
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I know, it was a line from Dumb and Dumber.
" Just when I thought you couldn’t get any dumber, you go and do something like this… and totally redeem yourself! "
what if he would have shot you in the face?
What if he would have shot me in the face?
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So the JJ run that got called back really was the turning point
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I'd agree
And I think that holding call was ticky-tack
He really didn't hold him
The guy dived
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
LUCK!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!
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and then 27-24
then ?
Then Profit
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
T.O's 42 total yards
killing my fantasy team and helping the Cards pull away. Ugh
Let's get those green gloves going.
challenge it
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COLBERT
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ok Mare onside
the Profitt!!!
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Damn straight
lets add to the fantastic finishes!!!!!!!
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CHEESEBURGER!!!!!

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Thats what she said!!!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
chomp
The feline version, kinda.
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Timeout?
maybe?
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when did this trend start?
I don’t remember people saying “lol” or “i loled” just a few weeks ago
I'd rather it just not show up here
since, you know, FG isn’t a message board or chat room.
at least Miami can't throw deep
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I didn't see the game
but Chad Pennington started off the 1st quarter with two td passes of 50 and 80 yards.
oh god dammit brian russel
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Okay folks
if you feel compelled to make a fanpost today, let’s be smart about it.
How about we just make one?
And everyone bitches in there?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm down with this.
Maybe make it some sort of off-topic thread where you can bitch/talk/cry to your heart’s content?
I was gonna say
Raul Ibanez but you put NFL in the question…therefore I got nothing
Let's get those green gloves going.
Ya but at least 5 people will decide otherwise
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 12, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I realise that wasn't directed at me
but for the record, although I’m new to posting today, I have been following these threads all year.
Angelina Jolie as a crazy 1930's women = still hot
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she wants her son
Her son.
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jags win
Seems the whole Mile High thing hasn’t fazed the Jaguars, going all the way back to the Brunell era.
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All smiles
Why the hell does anyone ever say this?
Marion Barber with 70 yard td reception.
to give him 10 catches for 124 yards. Cards still lead though…
end
The way I feel about today’s game basically is me saying “Go Canucks Go.”
Seriously, though, Canucks/Capitals is the national telecast on Versus tomorrow at 4pm, for anyone that has Columbus Day off. Goodness knows the Canucks have more going for them right now than the Seahawks do.
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that's a widely felt sentiment
It takes reps, I won’t lie.
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this is very disconcerting
because if this is the true talent level of our defense, we’re not turning it around next year.
Our defense was pretty good I thought.
They were just on the field too long, due to too many short drives from our offense.
I don't think this is the true talent displaying itself
but for all the Marshall foolishness, he’s been around for the last few years and we were pretty good. so something’s changed.

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