The Tape: Inaction Jackson
by John Morgan
on Oct 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
in Game Recap
From Sunday afternoon to Monday night, Seattle took five swift hits to the chin. Jab, the Mike Wahle hold call was valid. Jab, mediocre Green Bay puts an end to Seattle's playoff hopes. Straight right, Matt Hasselbeck is seriously injured. Jab, the once juggernaut Giants and their elite defense descends earthbound. Uppercut, Lawrence Jackson sucks.
Let's get to the scorecard:
Lawrence Jackson
2nd Qtr
-No rush
-Stands up blocker
-Washed out
-Whiffs against tight end Humphrey, falls onto the ground
-Great contain by Mebane and Jackson, tackle for loss of 1
-False Start
-Rolls left, good contain
-3 man line, edge rush, attempts to cut back inside, falls down
-RDT: Good outside move, neutralized
-GL, holds against double team
-GL, not in
He was subbed out a couple times, but very sparingly.
3rd Qtr
-Holds point
-DT: Jumps, attempts swat
-Nothing from interior
-Decent collapse from interior
-A little edge rush, a lot of nothing
-Stunts in s.l.o.w.l.y.
-Slow, exhausted jog
-Slow walk out, doesn't attempt to close hole
-Double blocked, shades out, quits*
Jackson got most of the looks. He's okay on the interior and good in run support. His major problem is when he isolates a blocker, he's helpless. He has nothing, no feet, no hands, nothing to even come close to shedding the linemen.
Julian Peterson
2nd Qtr
-Gets up field fast
3rd Qtr
-Good outside move, jumps, attempts swat
-Edge Rush
-Gets wide, nothing
-Great edge rush
-Edge Pressure
-Switches sides with Kerney, great pass rush
Darryl Tapp
3rd Qtr
-Gets around edge, draws two blockers, holds point
-Strings Clifton wide, cuts off outside, opens gap for Grant, Tatupu
-Moves in, draws double team
-Burst wide, cuts in tackles for no gain
-Nothing (Jennings for 45 and the score)
-Holds hole okay
-Blocked out
-Double blocked, hustles his ass off chasing Rodgers out of the pocket.*
-Gets edge, pushes off blocker, closes in on Grant but is not credited for the tackle.
*Same play.
It's not like Tapp was a shining star, but compared to Jackson, Tapp was a supernova. Jackson was a non-factor for most of the game and by the end of the third quarter, visibly gassed. I'm hoping this is just one bad game, but Jackson's on the radar. This is in no way an argument that Jackson is a bust, but right now he's a big part of what's wrong with Seattle's defense. Simeon Rice he isn't. I know he's a rookie, but after this game, a benching is due. He looks Baraka Atkins bad.
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I've never been a huge Ruskell fan
mainly for the reason that he’s too conservative with his 1st round picks. First Spencer, then Branch (sort of), then Jennings, then Jackson? Give me a guy who has a chance to be a TO or Champ Bailey (or at least a Desean Jackson or Felix Jones)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t a lot of people say that if Calais Campbell (sp?) fell to us in the first, we would be smart to draft him? I think he did drop to us, but we chose the safer 4 year starter from USC instead. Just out of curiosity, how is Campbell doing? (I honestly have no clue, so if this sounds smart alecky, it isn’t meant to be).
What’s kind of weird is that these safe conservative picks have arguably been busts (jury is still out on all of them, but they weren’t the low downside solid starters that many thought).
by LantermanC on Oct 14, 2008 4:41 PM PDT 0 recs
I thought Spencer was a smart move at the time
considering he could apprentice under Tobeck, but you can’t project health of the lack thereof. Ditto Branch. Jennings, well, shit.
by lemonverbena on Oct 14, 2008 4:51 PM PDT 0 recs
wtf
I still don’t understand why we’ve been “eliminated from playoff contention” after 5 games
by clamslayer on Oct 14, 2008 7:57 PM PDT 0 recs
we haven't. and who said that?
it is a seriously uphill battle now, but we still play division-leading Arizona two games. That counts for something. Of course, if we play like our 26th-ranked DVOA, we’re screwed.
by Misfit74 on
Oct 14, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
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John up above in the writing says
"Jab, mediocre Green Bay puts an end to Seattle’s playoff hopes. "
by clamslayer on
Oct 14, 2008 8:55 PM PDT
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I agree that we still have a chance but it's tough as hell
I’m not with the throw in the towel crowd
by clamslayer on
Oct 14, 2008 8:56 PM PDT
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Perhaps if Matt was healthy.
With his status, us sitting at 1-4 and starting our number 2/3 QB against an excellent opponent on the road, and the fact the Cards are playing well (and getting Boldin back next week), we have basically no chance.
by redwolf75 on
Oct 14, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
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Seneca's ready to break out....
It’s make or break time, if he is ever going to break out into an NFL starter…it will be now, I feel like this may be doable, a win in Table will equate to 3-4 in two weeks, not too far back. Especially after Hurt Warner lives up to his name and well….gets hurt. Yeah, the playoffs are never out of reach in the NFC West
by collyb on
Oct 14, 2008 10:26 PM PDT
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Hey, I'll be the happiest person in the world if they pull out the win.
by redwolf75 on
Oct 14, 2008 10:43 PM PDT
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For some reason I'm still really optimistic
I think the Browns inspired me when they destroyed the gay ass Giants. God I hate the Mannings.
by collyb on
Oct 14, 2008 10:50 PM PDT
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Why would that inspire you?
The Giants destroyed Seattle.
by John Morgan on
Oct 15, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
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True
But they were 1-3 before that game, and yes the Giants steam rolled us. We were clearly not prepared for that game and maybe a little overconfindent coming off the butchering of the rams.
However, I feel that everyone had counted The Browns out and the predicted the Giants to win the SB before that game. Then the Browns came out inspired and showed it can be done. I think that game will completely change the rest of their season.
The Hawks need a serious vote of confidence. I think at this point it is as much mental as it is physical.
That is how the Browns inspired me, not because they slaughtered a team that sluaghtered us….but because they reminded me that this is the NFL, and any team can go on a run and any team can win any game. There are no bad teams, just teams that are playing poorly or that are poorly managed, but they are all professionals and there for a reason.
Another inspiration is the Rams over the Skins…..
What am I saying? I don’t need to explain myself for being optimistic. I am a fan, thats my job…..
GO HAWKS
by collyb on
Oct 15, 2008 10:28 PM PDT
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Agreed
This season is not over, I won’t give up on this team until we’re mathematically eliminated. I still don’t believe the Cardinals are as good as they’ve played, and I don’t believe we’re as bad as we’ve played. Still a lot of football left.
by thebiz on
Oct 14, 2008 10:54 PM PDT
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And a lot of history and probability against us.
Football Outsiders has the Seahawks with a 0.7% chance of making the playoffs.
I’d say we’re done.
by Phildopip on
Oct 15, 2008 7:42 AM PDT
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Again...to make the playoffs
All we need to do is finish ahead of the Cardinals. They are on a high after beating Cowboys and people (ESPN) are even talking about an MVP-type season for Warner. It’s only a matter of time before he goes down and the Hawks have a much better chance if that happens.
by m_b on
Oct 15, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
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warner
I wonder if theres been any MVP’s who have had a 6 turnover game?
by mjkleko on
Oct 15, 2008 2:17 PM PDT
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Pfft ... I don't believe in this so-called "math"
:-)
Sando had a post on his NFC West blog on how teams fared after 1-4 starts.
The bad news: since ’01 44 teams have started 1-4 and only 2 of them have recovered to make the playoffs.
The slightly better news: 5 of those teams have recovered to finish 9-7 or better and 4 more have finished at 8-8.
Now, that’s still bleak odds. But getting to 9-7 still put us in position to win the NFC West – the division’s historically been that bad. And we still basically control our own destiny by being able to play the Cards twice. Yes, it is counting on injuries or decline by the Cards to help us out – but that’s not a giant leap of faith to make. Warner has a history of chronic injuries and streaky play, and the general consensus before the season was that the Cards had razor thin depth at some spots. They’d have to be very lucky to stay healthy all year long.
Personally, I think we’re inline for a 7-9 or 8-8 season, especially with Hass on the bench. But, if we can pull off some minor miracle in Tampa, then get our revenge game against the 49ers …. suddenly there’s a whole new outlook.
by jteckmann on
Oct 15, 2008 12:13 PM PDT
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I agree with most of what you said. We still have hope.
This is not 1992-1994 with Flores at the helm.
by Misfit74 on
Oct 15, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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sorry, that was meant for Phildopip in response to his “Id say we’re done”
by Misfit74 on
Oct 15, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
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I'd say Phildopip is a realist
Even when clinging to the few threads of hope left, there’s no denying that we’re in a deep hole that’s been historically hard for even good teams to climb out of.
Being a blind optimist isn’t some sign that you’re a “true fan” …. it’s just a sign that you’re an optimist.
by jteckmann on
Oct 15, 2008 12:47 PM PDT
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Me too.
It’s not wrong to be a realist or to question your team.
by Phildopip on
Oct 15, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
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Realist? Ok.
Claiming your team’s season is over after 5 games to me might be ‘a realist’ but is not becoming of a ‘fan’ if you consider yourself one, at least in my mind. Having endured many losing seasons with far inferior players and coaches has me believe until proven otherwise. The reality is that although difficult, we can still win our division. There are 10 games to play – two vs. the division leader. It’s not blind to be passionate about your team and feel somewhat negative toward people saying: ‘the season is over’ after 5 games. Yes, the odds are against us. Yes we have played like crap. There is still football to be played, and I will continue to support our team win or lose without a doom-and-gloom mentality.
by Misfit74 on
Oct 15, 2008 1:40 PM PDT
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No one is doom-and-gloom.
It’s common for people to underestimate how widely probability can swing against a team even early in the season. We see this same thing in games. If I asked you, without saying anything else, is it too early to count out Seattle after one quarter, or with three quarters left to play? You’d probably say yes. But did you know that after one quarter against the Giants, Seattle had but an 8% chance of winning? That’s what solid research has shown. And that 8% is over ten times the probability that Seattle makes the playoffs.
The why is simple and it applies to Seattle’s playoff hopes.
Seattle was/is well behind.
Seattle was/is playing poorly.
Likewise, Seattle is well behind in the standings and their record reflects their play. So, please don’t pull the better fan card. Reality is on the side of Seattle not making the playoffs. In a big way. Accepting that doesn’t diminish one’s fandom.
by John Morgan on
Oct 15, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
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you make a lot of good points
Those facts are easy to accept. There is truth in what both of us said. It’s largely matter of perception. I disagree with statements that ‘the season is over’ because I want to personally be able to enjoy Seahawks football the whole year. I don’t believe the season is over and I don’t agree with making statements like that. I haven’t disputed the fact that the playoffs are improbable. They are. That’s pretty easy to see. I’m a believer in staying positive and supporting your team. And no, that does not make me a better fan or person than anyone else. I can see that came off as arrogant now. I apologize for conveying my point in that manner. I love the Seahawks. With 10 games left, I refuse to accept or believe that the season is over. That doesn’t mean I’m stating that we will make the playoffs. Simply, I’m going to continue to hold some hope and support our team – in light of the circumstances. I don’t think we venture into territory of denial until we are on the verge of being clearly eliminated later in the season. Anything can happen in football and it sometimes does. True, the percentages may not be great. The odds may be against us. We can fold the tent as fans just like the team can if it chooses to, but I hope neither happen.
by Misfit74 on
Oct 15, 2008 2:13 PM PDT
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Did I say that I wasn't going to support the Seahawks? No, I didn't.
Do I expect the Seahawks to make the playoffs? No, I don’t. Does that make me any less a fan? No, it doesn’t.
by Phildopip on
Oct 15, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
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Oof, sorry.
I was reacting to your response to my comment above. Curse SBN 2.0 for making it too easy to respond to comments.
by Phildopip on
Oct 15, 2008 3:16 PM PDT
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Why don't you ask Football Outsiders what their odds of the Giants winning the Superbowl were in week 6 last year.
They know all…If they tell me my team won’t win…well they must be right.
Everybody lets pack up and call it a loss, anybody want my remaining tickets?
by collyb on
Oct 15, 2008 10:32 PM PDT
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Getting back to Lo-Jack
I know that John was careful to point out one game does not equal bust.
But what does this mean for the future? My understanding of Jackson was that he was the safe pick because his technique was refined and close to NFL-ready, but there was less of a physical upside.
Is this a matter of just refining his technique through more coaching … or was it a case where his technique was good, but he just didn’t have the natural athletic ability to fall back on when it didn’t work?
by jteckmann on Oct 15, 2008 12:59 PM PDT 0 recs
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