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So You're Telling Me There's a Chance

Seattle nearly tripled its playoff chances, rocketing from a step into the light 0.7%, to an on the waiting list for a baboon's heart 1.9%. According to Football Outsiders, Arizona has the second best chance to win its division behind only 7-0 Tennessee. Their reasoning, in part, a soft schedule here on out for Arizona and an intimidating slate of dates for Seattle.

So here's the question. Both Seattle and Arizona have been highly volatile. Seattle has the third highest variance in the NFL; Arizona thirteenth. A big part of the Cards' soft schedule is playing Seattle twice. A big part of Seattle's tough schedule is A) 1st ranked Philadelphia B) Two games against the Cardinals. I know Seattle can beat the Cardinals. If somehow, someway Seattle lucks or skills their way into a win over Philadelphia, can we say the Seahawks are right back in it?

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i have been telling myself the same thing all day...

“if we beat philly, all we have to do is sweep the Cards and then go 3-3 the rest of the way! that’s reasonable, right?”

my co workers are looking at me like i’m high, but seriously, i think it could work out. the Cards have been playing out of their minds this year, and our (should be top ten) defense has sucked. Can we hope for a little regression to the mean?

by cro-mag! on Oct 28, 2008 4:13 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes

Yes … we … CAN!

OK, that was lame.

by Nuss on Oct 28, 2008 4:14 PM PDT   0 recs

How sad is it missing Hass now?

With him in (and healthy), I think a motivated Hawks team has a shot at Philly.

Otherwise… ugh.

by djafrot on Oct 28, 2008 4:32 PM PDT   0 recs

Defense

I think this game is more about the defense. The PHI offense scares the crap out of me, but if the defense is up to the task, we can win this game. I’m far more concerned with their RB, QB, and WR speed than I am about missing Matt. Seneca can give us a solid game. Can the defense vs. this team?

by Misfit74 on Oct 28, 2008 4:54 PM PDT   0 recs

What about the SF game

As it has been said before…a “W” in the home SF game would look pretty damn good right now. We always seem to have one game that we should have won that bites us in the ass at the end (middle) of the year. See @ Arizona last year….

by m_b on Oct 28, 2008 5:09 PM PDT   0 recs

@ Arizona last year

would not have made any difference. We still lose @GB.

by michaelfox99 on Oct 29, 2008 3:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not gonna be easy

we’ll need some patented Philadelphia underachievement, or McNabb/Westbrook to come out.

I’m not yet ready to believe this is a significantly different team then the one that the Giants beat down or Green Bay sort of drooled over in a lazy fashion.

it would probably take….. well, a win over Philadelphia for me to start believing.

by Will Kier on Oct 28, 2008 5:24 PM PDT   0 recs

ummm... what he said.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Oct 29, 2008 8:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Start believing?

Why did you ever stop believing? Hold on to that feeling.
To beat Philly, it’s going to take some kind of luck, maybe some random fumbles or McNabb INTs… maybe a kick or punt return, especially with Seneca at the helm.

by LantermanC on Oct 29, 2008 9:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It can be done.

I think the Hass days are over. He was awesome, we love him, but there is no way we can rely on his trick back. Keep him around for mentoring and coaching.

Seneca must finally pay dividends. He has ridden the pine for years, waiting, learning, preparing. He must perform immediately and he is uniquely qualified to do so.

Koren, Weaver, Carlson, Julius, and Bobby provide enough support to make it happen.

Our O-line is starting to function as it should.

Our defense is starting to gel.

We are hitting the sweet spot and could go on a multi-game rampage…

by Birdfeeder on Oct 28, 2008 11:49 PM PDT   0 recs

We're gonna lose to Philly but I don't think that totally fucks us.

I think we sweep Arizona, beat St. Louis again, and I think we’ll probably win all the rest of our home games. 5-3 at home, 2 more wins on the road for sure, and I think we beat Miami too….though it’ll be closer than people think. So how does that leave us?

PHI: L (2-6)
MIA: W (3-6)
ARI: W (4-6)
WAS: W (5-6)
DAL: L (5-7)
NE: W (6-7)
STL: W (7-7)
NYJ: W (8-7)
ARI: W (9-7)

I can also see 6-10, but this best case scenario is still plausable. And if we sweep Arizona, I think we win the division with a 9-7 record. Unfortunately, if this happens I have to indulge in some not so straight sexual activity, as I told my friend I’d be willing to give it up for a playoff berth. Too much information? Who cares, that shit is funny. Regardless, I’m not sure I want them to go to the playoffs because of that….

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 29, 2008 12:05 AM PDT   0 recs

hahaha

I know what that’s about!

Insert perverted sports related sexual innuendo

by wwbaker3 on Oct 29, 2008 3:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is all true.

But at the same time, the St. Louis Rams have the same 2 games left against the Cards, as well as an easier schedule than us. Hell, they went 2-2 against the NFC East. The whole East has 4 total losses outside their division, and two of them are to the Rams.

ARI
NYJ
SF
CHI
MIA
ARI
SEA
SF
ATL

Taking out the opponents both teams have left, the Rams have to face SF twice, Chicago, and Atlanta. We have to face Eagles, Redskins, Cowboys, and Pats. If anything, the emergence of Donnie Avery, the three very good opponents the Rams just beat or played close, and the way they are playing defense makes them look every bit our equal at the very least. The 23-16 loss to the Pats was without Steven Jackson, and they still looked very competitive.

by cashless on Oct 29, 2008 1:13 AM PDT   0 recs

For what it's worth,

coostandings.com has the Seahawks playoff odds listed way up at 16.7%. I’m pretty sure that coolstandings’ model projects the outcomes of future games using a first order pythagorean wins formula — essentially factoring in points scored and points allowed to determine how good a team is — so it’s not as sophisticated as DVOA. I also know that at the beginning of the season coolstandings factored data from last season in to their projections, and I’m not sure if they are still doing that at this point in the season. If they are, it would obviously bias the results in the Seahawks favor.

As has been pointed out by myself and others here, if the Seahawks can win the two Arizona games it would make up our current two game deficit and give us the tie-break over Arizona. Then Seattle would have to at least match Arizona’s record for the remaining seven games — and hold off STL and SF — to win the division, feasibly with a final record of 9-7 or even 8-8.

DVOA loves the Cards and hates the Seahawks this year, so that should probably tell us two things:
1) It is rather optimistic for us to think the Seahawks will beat the Cardinals twice, and
2) If the Seahawks do pull these two upsets, we should see the DVOA of each team regress heavily towards the mean, signifying that the race for the division would likely be closely contested in this scenario.

I would tend to think that the Seahawks’ chances of making the playoffs are somewhere between the 16.7% of coolstandings and the 1.9% of footballoutsiders. I would put their odds perhaps in the 5-7% range, though I am admittedly pulling these numbers out my ass. However, it is interesting — given the small sample sizes and relative difficulty of statistically modeling football — that two rational and objective models can yield such different results for the same team.

by FlaskInSafeco on Oct 29, 2008 9:34 AM PDT   0 recs

off topic: Kicker?

Any chance we trade either of our Kickers to the Saints? Seems like they are ripe for that, having Gramatica on IR and just cutting Melhaff.

by Misfit74 on Oct 29, 2008 9:56 AM PDT   0 recs

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