The Tape: Seahawks @ 49ers: Second Half Notes
Seattle protects leads the way Orson Welles protected money: By assuming time will run out before all can be given away. That's why it's difficult to read too much good into the performance of Shaun Hill. One the one hand, Hill earned 25 DYAR. More than Matt Hasselbeck has earned all season (Hasselbeck's is actually negative). On the other hand, Seattle was content to allow Hill all the underneath completions he could throw. The strategy worked for Seattle, even if it marred their overall defensive stats. Not every team is so prodigal with its lead. I've seen better coordinators - gasp! - continue to use the same damn strategy they devised to stop the offense the rest of the game until their opponents' final desperation drive(s) in the fourth. I will say, Hill showed something I've never seen from J.T. O'Sullivan: pocket awareness. In the eighth play of San Francisco's 14 play third quarter drive, 3rd and five from the 50, Hill peeked Julian Peterson coming fast on an edge rush, stepped up into the pocket and found Frank Gore for ten and the first. I wonder is the high bust rate among first-round quarterbacks the unpredictable nature of the position or an emphasis on arm strength and accuracy over read and pocket awareness? I've seen quarterbacks succeed with only the latter, but none with only the former.
Leonard Weaver vs. Owen Schmitt Redux: Weaver was the star, and in one game he nearly overtook John Carlson as Seattle's most valuable skill position player: 54 DYAR vs. 57 DYAR. But Weaver's "skill" for less than five snaps a game, he's "support", as in pass blocking and lead-blocking, roughly 40. The weight of his offensive contributions might make up for his poor lead-blocking and exciting if inconsistent pass blocking. It certainly means he should play. He shouldn't play fullback ahead of Owen Schmitt.
Now, I'm going to indulge in a fantasy for a second. I don't believe the elements of an NFL offense are that complex. Further, I don't think the elements of one NFL offense are that far from another NFL offense. Therefore, I think it's feasible that a coach could alter his offense somewhat to cater to his talent. How hard would it be for Seattle to simply play Schmitt at fullback and Weaver at his more natural position at halfback? Weaver could still receive and occasionally run, he could still pass block and in line run block, and he and Schmitt could share the same formation without sacrificing the run or pass. Both would play, Kerry Colbert, Jordan Kent and Jeb why-the-Futzier-are-you-still-on-the-team would play much less, and instead of choosing between benching a great receiving fullback or playing a great receiving fullback who can't really play fullback, the team would utilize both talents. Am I stupid? Is this at all far fetched? I'm not reinventing the wheel, there's plenty of offenses, even plays within Holmgren's playbook that feature a halfback and fullback. The only rule broken is the rule of strict positions and that's a rule every team in the NFL regularly breaks. I mean, think, Julius Jones running off-tackle behind Walter Jones, Leonard Weaver, a pulling Mike Wahle and Owen Schmitt.
The Darryl Tapp Effect: For whatever reason, when Darryl Tapp and Lawrence Jackson line up together, Tapp always plays left and Jackson right. It's strange of course to put the edge rusher on the quarterback's front side and the anti-whiteman-dance (that is, everything but the hands) run stuffer on the quarterback's blindside, but that's what's done and that's what Seattle did on Rocky Bernard's second sack and first forced fumble. Here's the setup:
Seattle 34 - San Francisco 13
3-2-SF 39 (5:38)
Niners, 4 WR (2 Left/2 Right0, Rb. Seattle in a 4-1 Dime. At the snap, Tapp explodes on a nice short angled edge rush that pulls Adam Snyder wide. This is important because an offensive line is strongest when its compact, as it bows and players are isolated pass rushing gaps appear. Tapp's edge rush and Brandon Mebane's forced double team isolates Tony Wragge and Bernard is able to exploit the gaping "C" gap on Wragge's right. From there it's just a good skill and talent showing by Bernard as he closes on Hill and swats the ball from his hand. It's two games, but it's good to see Tapp back. Jackson is still struggling as a pass rusher. The talent is there. He's very agile and almost too-live for his own good, bolting back and forth around the offensive line instead of sinking in and fighting towards the ball carrier, but his hand-fighting is weak to non-existent. Once, I saw him spin-move, get nowhere, look bemused a yard in front of the tackle and stay there as the camera panned towards the receiver. Still mastering that move I guess. Two bad offenses, sure, but Seattle's defense has finally looked a little like itself and that's a lot about Tapp, his pass rush and the collateral pass rush he creates.
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Line him up in his college position, TE. Imagine dual TE sets with him and Carlson – both receiving threats – and still having the option of running the ball. Sure Weaver’s athletic, but hes no Sproles.
by myx on Oct 29, 2008 9:44 PM PDT 0 recs
Or Better Yet...
An H-Back type where he is both a FB and a TE. And where he can motion back and forth between them. Owen Schmitt could see the field plenty of time if this was done. I’ve been wanting to see this for some time now.
by cashless on
Oct 30, 2008 1:01 AM PDT
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I've seen it a couple of times
Duckett’s TD plunge last week, and a few other times in similar short yardage situations. I don’t think Holmgren’s terminology calls it an H-Back, but the whole concept is there in the playbook. And I agree, I’d like to see it used a lot more – on other downs & distances and some designed passes coming out of it.
When we suffered the great WR plague of ‘08, I was actually hoping that Holmgren would borrow a few pages from the Green Bay playbook that had pounded us into the ground in the playoffs – a full-house backfield with Weaver/Schmitt as dual FBs, with either one able to motion out as an H-Back, or an RB like Jones or Morris able to motion out to WR, leaving Weaver to be a runner out of a split-back formation …. but that came after late nights drinking and messing around with Madden’s playbook editor.
by jteckmann on
Oct 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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or..
We could just use Schmitt on first downs, Weaver on third downs, and mix it up in between. Weaver can still run block and Schmitt can pass block and receive so we wouldn’t be tipping the defense as to the play call really.
Or more likely:
Just give Schmitt one series midway through the first half and another series midway through the second. Then you are giving him a small fraction of the snaps (6, to be precise), but a good opportunity to show his stuff. Maybe he earns the role I described above..?
It it sort of similar to the Tapp situation. We were supposed to have an End rotation and we didn’t. Then they finally started rotating which I think was great. Now theres no Kerney so I am glad we made sure to acclimate Tapp. Jackson really has to step it up against Philly or we are in big trouble. Babin would have been nice to have around now, instead of a second kicker. Atkins isn’t really serviceable right?
by michaelfox99 on Oct 30, 2008 5:46 AM PDT 0 recs
What ever happened
to Babin? I know we released the guy, but he used to be a 1st rounder. Was he an all athlete no talent kind of guy?
by myx on Oct 30, 2008 9:58 AM PDT 0 recs
Babin
He didn’t impress in his first three seasons as a Texan despite lots of playing time. He is pretty one-dimensional (pass rusher) as an end so they tried him at OLB which didn’t really work out. He was supposedly having a good camp two years ago but they got desperate at Safety so we scooped him up for Boulware. He never got into the rotation last year because we were pretty set as far as pass rushers were concerned. He impressed in the preseason as a pass rusher this year but with Kerney/Petersen/Jackson/ Tapp and the need to bring in receivers after Payne, Obomanu, and Burleson went down with Engram and Branch still out it was pretty clear to a lot of us (once we saw Coutu was staying) that it was either Babin or Atkins.
Atkins has the tools to be a starter someday, but he is still sort of a no-show on the field. Nevertheless, the organization saw it wiser to gamble on Atkins vs. keep potential immediate injury depth in Babin. It would be nice having Babin around for a week like this when we will be without Kerney, but I think he would only improve us very marginally since we do have Tapp, Jackson, and Peterson. I think they all saw Jackson making more of an impact as a pass rusher then he has, but the issue seems to be technique which he has a good chance of picking up. It will be interesting to see if Atkins gets on the field, my guess is not, this is a very high leverage game as far as playoff odds are concerned.
Babin was working out for some teams and then he pulled a hamstring or something like that which ended that. He should resurface somewhere later in the season. If he is healthy I wouldn’t mind picking him up immediately and losing Bumpus or Colbert.
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Oct 30, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
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