Got Questions for the Arizona Cardinals?
Hey Field Gulls,
Cgolden from Revenge of the Birds here. In an effort to maximize community interaction between ROTB and you guys at Field Gulls this week, John and I have decided to cross-promote by throwing up a FanPost so that you, devout fans of the Seahawks, can get any and all questions answered about the Arizona Cardinals (and vice versa over at ROTB).
So I'm here to answer your questions - and I expect a few ROTB-ers will migrate over to discuss the upcoming Hawks/Cardinals game as well. Want to know what to expect from the high flying Cardinal offense? Curious about the Cardinals' injury situation? I may not be the dali-lama but I'll do my best to shoot it to you straight. Anything you got, fire away - I'm here to share and learn.
I'm looking forward to an entertaining Cardinals/Hawks game this weekend. Should be fun.
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I have a few.
Anquan seems to be getting quite a few carries this year. Any particular reason why? Also, why the increased targeting in the red zone? Sure he’s a big target but so is Fitz.
Breaston? Great pick in the 5th round last year, or product of the Arizona passing attack and Kurt Warner’s proclivity to have 300 yard games? What is it that he does well, run routes, great hands, speed?
Hightower as the #1 RB, good choice or should the carries be split between him and Edge (and Arrington to a lesser extent)?
Arizona’s run defense seem to be pretty good. Besides Adrian Wilson, who else is stepping it up on D?
What are the fans’ long term views on Leinart? I was never high on him, since he wasn’t awesome, and it seems like it would be hard to not be awesome with Q and Fitz as your WR. The fact that McCown (I think that’s his last name) threw up a bunch of 300 yard games and Leinart couldn’t doesn’t help either.
You o-line isn’t as bad at run blocking as before, but it’s still not great. I don’t know any of the changes that were made in the past few years. Was it more of a change in coaching or players?
How do you like Urban? I liked him on the Seahawks, and am glad to see him do fairly well on your team.
by LantermanC on
Nov 13, 2008 12:05 PM PST
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my take
- Good questions on Boldin. I’m not sure why they’ve targeted him so much in the red zone this season. My guess would be that they know Warner can squeeze a ball into a tight window and Q can take a hit and hold onto the ball. Maybe Warner’s better at zipping the ball into a tight spot than he is at throwing the fade. As far as carries go, Whiz is finally getting in some of his ‘gadget’ plays that made him so popular in Pittsburgh. Q is the best option at WR to carry the ball b/c of his toughness.
- Breaston has had a great year, obviously and I’m sure some of his success is tied to Warner’s abilities, but he’s also becoming a legit wide out. He’s a speed guy who runs pretty good routes and I can’t remember off hand him dropping to many passes. Most of his passes will be down the field or on deeper crossing routes but he’s developing into a more complete WR.
- Most of us would agree that Edge doesn’t need to touch the ball if Hightower is ready to go. Edge has lost the burst of quickness that once compensated for his lack of top-end speed and he’s got zero ability to break a tackle. Hightower doesn’t have top end speed either but he’s a tough runner who has the quickness to get to the corner and the agility to make a guy miss. Some of us think the depth chart should read Hightower, Arrington and then Edge. He doesn’t offer much than a good blocking back at this point.
- The run defense has been ok. They’re nothing spectacular but they’re 10th in yards per game and 13th in yards per rush. They’re also getting better as Gabe Watson gets in better ‘game shape.’ He’s the nose tackle who fractured his knee cap during the offseason and couldn’t even step on the practice field until the second week of the season. He’s still only played in five games and hasn’t regained the starting job but he’s getting better each week. As far as who else is doing better, Antrel Rolle is a better tackler than Holt last year and it’s helped that all the LB’s stayed relatively healthy (unlike last year).
- I still think Leinart will get his chance to start in Arizona sometime in the future. He was having a great off season and looked sharp in the preseason until the disaster in Oakland, but hey Warner had a disaster in New York, so it happens. As far as 300 yard games, he averaged 227 as a rookie with a season high of 405 and he threw for 299 the second game of his second season. It’s tough to judge him with his current body of work b/c he performed pretty decently as a rookie and then had to learn another new system in his second year. It wasn’t a huge surprise to me that he struggled but I still think he’ll be a productive starter in this league.
- Sure the O-Line isn’t as bad but they’re still not great. I think they hurt themselves in the off season by trying to incorporate some ‘zone blocking’ schemes to better suit Edge’s skills. The problem was they didn’t have the linemen or the coach to run the system. Russ Grimm is a great OL coach but his background is in power schemes and most of the personnel is also. They sort of switched back to some power running in St. Louis when Hightower took over and everyone looked more comfortable. We’ll see if they continue to improve or if they just looked good against a poor front seven.
- I like Urban for what he is, a decent wide out. He’s a decent mix of speed and toughness and he’d probably get more playing time if he was on a team with less quality WRs. I will say he always seems to score bizarre TDs like the ricochet pass in STL.
by cgolden on
Nov 13, 2008 2:34 PM PST
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I guess a good followup would be
do you see Arizona making a real hard effort at resigning Boldin due to his amazing season, or does the emergence of Breaston make this less likely?
by LantermanC on
Nov 14, 2008 3:33 PM PST
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"Hard Effort", when it comes to GM Rod Graves, that's a matter of semantics
I’ve come to the opinion that Graves isn’t a proponent of restructuring contracts. His opinion of “worth” often doesn’t meet the opinion of the player and most importantly, the agent.
Anquan received a very nice restructured contract in ‘06 that replaced his 2nd round pick rookie contract. As I recall he received a lot of bonus money in ’06 to compensate for his incredible rookie year. The contract kept him a Cardinal through ’11. Also consider this contract was done during Fitzgerald’s second season, his first Pro Bowl season, but before escalators had kicked in on his contract for the late seasons of his rookie contract.
Larry’s cap number for this year would have been $14 million this season so to give him $40 million over the next four years (two additional years added) makes sense to Graves as it freed up $4 million this year (hello Travis LaBoy, FA).
The immediate ripple effect is if Larry is worth $10 million/year, what does that say about Anquan at roughly $3 million/year? Clearly Anquan is a Top 10 WR in the NFL now, so he’s worth more. Yet Graves already sweetened his original deal significantly; there’s three years left on the contract, why should he sweeten it again so soon after the last one? Partly because of that ‘06 “make-up” paycheck (bonus), which I understand was in the neighbourhood of $10 million in one lump payment. Rework a new deal and that old lump value that was originally going to be pro-rated against the life of the contract for salary cap purposes now has be resolved in the year of a new contract. As the Cardinals are now pushing the salary cap roof every year, there isn’t a lot of “play” to tend to Anquan and sign the other “core” players that Whisenhunt wants to keep around (Dansby, Wilson, Dockett, A. Smith, Warner, etc.)
So enough of this brief history of Anquan’s salary…what now? The contract stink you heard in August was Q being the puppet head of Drew Rosenhaus, a blight on the NFL IMHO. Bottom line is Q deserves to be paid and….will be. Steve Breaston’s emergence hasn’t made Anquan “less needed” as Q and “Boobs” games are very different. Breaston has only proved that losing Bryant “Brickhands” Johnson to the Niners was a great way to sabotage a division rival. Breaston has dramatically improved the #3 WR spot and has proven that he’s a much better Q sub when he gets hurt (which happens regularly). I believe the Cardinals will make resigning Karlos Dansby their #1 offseason goal, followed by reworking Q’s and Adrian Wilson’s contracts. Edgerrin James will be released to free up his $5 million to help keep these guys in cardinal red.
Will Anquan be offered enough money? That’s the $8-$10 million dollar question. Due to Anquan’s consistent injury issues, I’d expect a contract with escalators to account for the number of games he dresses each season. I’m sure he wants a Fitzgerald-like contract, but Graves will want to tack on a couple more years to the existing contract. Needless to say, it will be “interesting” (read: drama!) to see how this plays out.
Trade him? This could happen as well, but don’t expect to see Q in the NFC West anymore and most likely not even in the NFC. Jacksonville or Miami seem like likely places considering Florida is home for him.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 15, 2008 5:05 AM PST
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Man, good questions, Lanterman.
You pretty much stole all the good ones.
by Phildopip on
Nov 13, 2008 3:28 PM PST
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CG hit it on the head...
with pretty much everything. I think ROTB is split though on the Leinart issue though. Me personally, I don’t care for him. I think he’s a primadonna and has lost his edge since getting his big contract. One thing for sure though is it will only help him sitting behind Warner and soaking some of that knowledge in from one of the best of all time.
The run question, I too think it should be T. Hightower, J.J. then Edge on the depth chart. TH and JJ are a great 1-2 punch of power and speed. I also would like to see JJ getting more KO returns and I am not really sure why he wasn’t last game? He started out his career as a Cardinal pretty horribly but has really turned it on all year. I just hope he’s not just doing it because it’s a contract year and when we lock him up again he goes into hibernation all over again.
Urban is a good solid receiver and I think would be a 2 or a 3 for any other team. I always hear the talk about our big two Q and Fitz, but we have the deepest most solid complete receiving unit in the NFL. Q, Fitz, my boy Breaston, Urban, Doucet. There is also a little known rookie on our practice squad who is an absolute stud named Lance Long. I don’t think the guy dropped a ball in all of camp seriously. When I went to training camp he made one of the most incredible catches I have ever seen over Hood and DRC.
Defensive stands outs here have been LaBoy (he’s been hurt and pretty quiet since coming back), Berry had a huge game Monday, Dansby, Dockett to name a few. All fan favorites.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on
Nov 13, 2008 8:54 PM PST
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you're such a moron
i read the stuff in your little cards blog there. first of all, don’t be a bigot. nobody likes a bigot. there is nothing wrong with being gay, it’s not a lifestyle choice like so many of you people seem to think it is. it is a genetic predisposition. maybe i should speak in language that you understand though. can’t you be a little more original? really? gay jokes? you have to be kidding. have fun in your sunshine, cause the hawks are back next year to claim the division crown back and get it back to where it belongs: the beautiful pacific northwest.
by Woodinville_12thMan on
Nov 13, 2008 9:09 PM PST
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I echo redwolfs comment
What part of that is gay? Maybe “hit it on the head” (ow)? Lance Long definitely sounds like a porn star. I’m assuming you’re referring to stuff this guy said on the cards blog.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 1:06 AM PST
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Hey Wood, what you guys over hear in...
Seahawks country do is your business. Who am I to judge, really!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on
Nov 14, 2008 8:16 AM PST
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I'm so lost
….so Seattle has a lot of gays….I saw no intential stabs, everybody needs to calm down…who cares????
by collyb on
Nov 14, 2008 11:28 PM PST
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This is a really douchey comment.
Nice job on making yourself look like just as much of an idiot as him.
The smart thing to do would be to merely ignore him.
by redwolf75 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:26 AM PST
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Outside of calling you a tool, a d-bag, and quite simply a moron
I’m gonna try to refrain from name-calling. But you meant to spell “here” not “hear.” Bad spelling is just unforgivable. You definitely crossed a line there.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 1:58 PM PST
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Wow, nevermind my previous comment
After reading your comments on the “Talking Hawks” fanpost by John on the cards blog, I have mathematically determined you most certainly are a tool.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 1:13 AM PST
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Oops, after reading that thread I agree as well.
Sorry woodinville_12thman.
by redwolf75 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:34 AM PST
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Agreed on the Arrington return comment.
He seems to be a good pretty good returner. Breaston, not so much.
by LantermanC on
Nov 14, 2008 9:12 AM PST
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returners
True, Breaston’s not bad, but he’s a better punt returner than a kick returner. Consider they’re career stats on kick returns:
Breaston: 85 returns, 22.3 average, 0 TDs and long of 59
Arrington: 87 returns, 23.4 average, 2 TDs and long of 99
You could make the case that Breaston is more consistent given a pretty close average without the big play but with this offense, I’d rather have the occasion big play than a consistent 22.
by cgolden on
Nov 14, 2008 9:45 AM PST
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Also,
you guys pretty much have this division wrapped up, do you guys feel confident in your team, or is there still some lingering fear that you’ll somehow collapse?
Or do you not even care about the division anymore and really just care about securing a bye for the first week of the playoffs?
by LantermanC on
Nov 13, 2008 12:57 PM PST
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confident?
I don’t think anyone thinks we’ll collapse and lose the division. If that happens the entire state of Arizona might need to be put on suicide watch. I know at ROTB, we’ve turned our attention to playoff seedings. It might be a tad premature but, what can I say, most of us have been waiting our entire lifetimes for a season like this.
by cgolden on
Nov 13, 2008 2:36 PM PST
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A break from the norm
Collapse is no longer a fear when it’s been the norm for so long for a franchise. Is it a concern? Certainly. With a rare post-season appearence looking to be a foregone conclusion at the half-way point of a season, this is a break from the “norm” for the Cardinals and the concern is they’ll fall apart and stagger into the post-season. There are plenty of tough games left on the schedule so a faltering is not out of reality.
There are still three games to be played within the division, granted, two are at home, so yes the division is still a concern. It’s been thirty-three years since the Cardinals won a divison crown; until there’s an x, y, or z next to “Arizona” in the standings, the division will remain a concern.
A first-round bye would be icing on the cake as it reducing the potential number of road games to one. The Cards are anything but “road warriors” and to break from that norm the Cardinals need to win in Seattle for the first time since Thomas Jones was our feature back (the first regular season home game in the new stadium if memory serves me…’01?).
I look forward to seeing Matt Hassled-by-a-bad-back in action on the field rather than a commercial, that’s for sure!
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 14, 2008 7:16 AM PST
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How do you like Wisenhunt?
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on
Nov 14, 2008 7:52 AM PST
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How is Whisenhunt as a coach?
Players coach? Or more disciplinarian?
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 7:53 AM PST
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Nevermind,
Looks like scruffy beat me to it
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 7:53 AM PST
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ya but you spelled his name right.
WE DEMAND A ANSWER!
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on
Nov 14, 2008 7:58 AM PST
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To both Whiz questions
First I’ll go ahead and state that I’m a self-named ‘Whiz-kid.’ I think he’s the biggest reason that this franchise has gone from laughing stock to respectability in a year and a half and I hope he’s in the desert for a long, long time. He brings a no nonsense, no excuses mentality to the table that we’ve lacked for…well…as long as I’ve been alive. He’s holding players accountable and it’s reaping immediate dividends. He’s got a great philosophy too, the best players will play. Novel concept, huh and for all these years we just went by who was drafted first.
I don’t think he really falls into either category though as far as being a players coach or disciplinarian, he’s somewhere in the middle. He’ll occasionally call out players or positions (like he did with the TEs this week) in the media but you also won’t find him chewing some guy out on the sidelines during a game.
by cgolden on
Nov 14, 2008 9:19 AM PST
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Whisenhunt isn't alone
He has gathered the finest assistant coaches to wear a Cardinals’ polo since coaching staffs stopped smoking on the sideline. Rather than a bunch of “yes men”, his staff will challenge Whiz and each other to find the best tactics to use their players in. It started to work last year (8-8 first season, not bad, ignoring Buddy Ryan pulled off that feat before imploding) and is showing great dividends this year. I hope the final pay-out will bring some pride to the NFC West.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 14, 2008 10:22 AM PST
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Do you think the penalties are a huge problem?
by redwolf75 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:28 AM PST
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That's the biggest problem we have had.
Shooting ourselves in the foot. That MNF should never have been that close, but we let them in with penalties. I think the volume of our stadium at home has had something to do with it.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:30 AM PST
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+1
Penalties are the Achilles heel of this team right now and they have been for a while.
by cgolden on
Nov 14, 2008 9:40 AM PST
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Amped players
So many mental mistakes causing penalties rather than bad technique. Everyone loves to see their players playing with high energy and determination, just stay on-sides!
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 14, 2008 10:24 AM PST
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Good luck Seahawks fans...
I hope you superfans manage to pry your panties from your ass cracks by game time. In the meantime enjoy your tea party, Ladies:-)
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:40 AM PST
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There's been multiple studies done lately that have found
that of men claiming to be straight, MANY more homophobic men are in the closet and actually gay than those who are tolerant of gay people. Makes sense. How ironic. Their homophobia is a front to cover up their own insecurities.
Just thought I’d throw that out there for you, buddy.
by redwolf75 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:53 AM PST
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So by my count,
You have garnered the following nicknames in about a day:
Douche, idiot, tool, d-bag, moron, tool again, Matt Leinart (thats embarrassing for you), and assfuck (personal favorite)
To manage to get all of these names, I’m gonna assume the problem is with you and not with all of us. Seriously guy, grow up.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 2:07 PM PST
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HOWEVER,
In my opinion, the other Cards guys (cgolden and Hawkwind) are doing a great job of being serious and answering real football questions.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 2:08 PM PST
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Yes. Thanks for all the insight hawk and cgolden.
But you really need to take out the garbage on your blog…
by redwolf75 on
Nov 14, 2008 2:43 PM PST
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DRC
What are your thoughts on DRC? I haven’t had a chance to do any real research, and I was high on his skill set/talent like everyone else was after seeing his combine. After Green got burned I would think its his time to snatch that starting spot and make his claim, as he was named the starter this week correct? How has he done as your nickel back so far?
by vanrijn on
Nov 14, 2008 2:25 PM PST
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DRC: physical CB with lots of rookie-growth pains
Starting in the preseason and carrying through into the regular season, we discovered that this skinny, fast kid could really put a lick on a WR and even on a RB on the edge. His physicallity was a big question coming out of college so it’s been a nice surprise to see him tackling like Adrian Wilson rather than “Primetime”.
Skill-wise, his biggest strength is his speed. He tends to bite on jukes and fakes but can close the distance to make plays on the ball. Yet sometimes he thinks to much and gets burned badly like Lee Evans’ long TD in Week 5.
Overall, DRC is performing well and is working through the growth pains of being a rookie CB in the NFL. Eric Green’s injury has opened up a CB spot and DRC filled in well against SF, nearly snagging an interception. Still, he needs in game coaching as Ralph Brown was subbing for DRC quite a bit.
DRC’s early experience was as the nickel-back and where he was getting a little TV time with some nice sticks on tackles. Lately, Antrel Rolle has been acting as the nickel-back and Ware or Francisco comes in to play FS.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 15, 2008 5:19 AM PST
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What do you guys think about Antrel Rolle?
I know he was a top pick a few years back (maybe eighth overall??), but I haven’t heard too much, good or bad, about him. Has he been contributing? There were better options than Rolle at corner in that draft right? Off the top of my head, I can only think of Pacman, Carlos Rogers, and Darrent Williams. Though its debatable if you would want any of them seeing as Pacman is crazy, Rogers isn’t amazing, and the latter is six feet under. Distasteful? maybe
But on a serious note, should Hasselbeck be wary of throwing to Antrel Rolle this week?
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 14, 2008 2:40 PM PST
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Rolle has been picking up momentum
Rolle had a bad hamstring through most of the preseason so missed out on quality reps at his new free safety position. Thus, he’s been perfecting his skills “on the job”. Early on, Rolle was pretty much a non-factor in making plays. He was making tackles around the line but wasn’t do enough things “deep” to be worthy of praise. The Carolina game was something of a low point for him as he was in the mix to make plays but his tackling was…well, horrid. Whisenhunt called Rolle out in the media the following week as the coach emphasized tackling that week. The next game against the Rams, Rolle was “back”, making plays and getting his first “pick-six” of the season. I’m sure most of you saw his second one last week…except for the off-sides penalty that soured it.
So, yes, Hasselbeck needs to know where Rolle is. Hasselbeck especially needs to know this when he sees Adrian Wilson flying in off the edge. The Wison/Rolle combo ought to lead to a few more “pick-six” opportunities.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 15, 2008 5:29 AM PST
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Adam Jones went to Tennessee the pick before the Cards if memory serves me
Thank gawd for that!
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 15, 2008 5:30 AM PST
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thanks for the backup guys
: )
by Woodinville_12thMan on
Nov 14, 2008 3:25 PM PST
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What about Levi Brown? How is he doing this season?
by redwolf75 on
Nov 15, 2008 11:02 AM PST
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Steady improvement
He is still prone to getting beat by a quick edge rusher and has often had a TE on his side to help with that.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on
Nov 15, 2008 12:10 PM PST
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