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Odds and Sods Heading Into Week 12

Like Scruffy, I've had a long week, and like Scruffy, I better reign it in a bit today.

Always required reading. Good to see a link in time for me to post it.

The podcast returns tomorrow. From here on, it's all off the cuff and all whatever Seahawks stuff I want to talk about. Like Seattle, my goal is to get better before next season. One thing I'll be spending a lot of time on is college football. Seattle falling so quickly from contention allows fans to get a jump on prospect hunting. That's kind of cool. Kind of.

Advanced NFL Stats gives Washington an 83% of beating Seattle. Part of that huge margin is home field matters less when one team completely dominates the other. It's that kind of season. With Seattle so bad, does the Zorn angle lose significance? I'm sure it's all we'll here about, I even anticipate a commentator saying Hasselbeck is play poorly because he's lost his quarterback's coach (maybe he is)

Seattle is no longer the worst team in football at forcing turnovers. It's a distant memory now, but last season Seattle had the best defense in football per drive. Adding a running game was supposed to allow it to protect leads and reduce the total number of drives. Perhaps even force more desperation plays by the opposing offense. Instead, the defense has crumbled and the running game faded. That stampede over San Francisco's "Big Sub" seems like a distant memory now. Is this rushing attack any good or did it feast on Saint Louis and a San Francisco nickel?

From here on out, Matt Hasselbeck is a huge story. Against Arizona, Hasselbeck attempted to throw into a somewhat small window four times, and all four the defender caught the pass. His pass attempt on the two point conversion was especially worrisome. The pass wan't into coverage, it wasn't terribly errant, but Ralph Brown overtook the route and grabbed the pick. It's not an official pick, but that's semantics. The defender caught the pass. Seattle needs Hasselbeck to play like a quality quarterback. Not Pro Bowl caliber. Not 2007. Seattle needs Hasselbeck to have some career left.

Josh Wilson, who is not hurt (further evidence why I don't read practice reports), is another interesting story. It's true that Wilson's contributions Sunday were tied to big plays and that he allowed a lot of yards in between. His big plays more than made up for his yardage allowed, but one game of big plays does not a DB make. See Michael Boulware. We've been here before fans. Boulware's picks were total, run under the bad pass luck. Wilson's picks have been in tight coverage. It's still possible the picks dry up. It's also possible Wilson continues to pick passes until opposing quarterbacks simply avoid targetting him. Look to see if Seattle's sacks spike. That could be the hidden contribution of a team with two good corners.

We'll run a Michael Crabtree open thread tomorrow night. I have some Vertical Epic and 90 Minute IPA around, so I might be a little festive or celebratory. Crabtree is fun to watch. I don't think Seattle drafts him. Tim Ruskell seems opposed to taking a wide receiver early in the draft and spending a top ten pick on Crabtree would be a huge departure from form.

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While Crabtree clearly is the man to lust after,

I’ve seen a little of Darrius Heyward-Bey this season. DHB, not to be confused with GHB, is athletic, physical, and appears to have the skills necessary to be a solid 2nd or 3rd rounder. The problem I have with waiting for a 2nd or 3rd round wideout is that Ruskell has a recent history of offensive skill position guys until it’s Courtney Taylor time.

I plan on watching going through at least a modest amount of Widmer Hefeweizen while watching my recent Alma Mater stomp on Illinois, and I’ll further enjoy the Crabtree show against Oklahoma.

Can't wait for Ruskell to knock this one out of the park.

by abender20 on Nov 21, 2008 3:52 PM PST   0 recs

Jeremy Maclin

I know we’re all enamored with the freak of nature that is Crabtree but what do you think of Maclin? Seems like he’s another great WR who’s flying a little under the radar. At 6’1" and with blazing speed he seems like he would fit well as a great run after the catch type receiver, like a bigger DeSean Jackson. Is he worth thinking about taking when we pick or do you think he may be there later in the first if we trade down?

by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 21, 2008 4:20 PM PST   0 recs

Ah, awesome

He’ll be a nice consolation prize for the team that misses out on Crabtree. I’d be surprised if he wasn’t the second reciever off the board.

It’s hard to fathom that Ruskell would pass on Crabtree, he may not be big on drafting a WR high but Crabtree seems to be one of those special players that don’t come around often. It wouldn’t surprise me if he did though, and it’d surprise me less if Crabtree doesn’t make it to the Hawks. Thats why I’m holding out hope for Sammy Straughter in later rounds.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 21, 2008 5:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Of course, he's most likely 5-11 - 6-0.

Always have to subtract at least an inch off the listed college height, especially for WRs.

by redwolf75 on Nov 21, 2008 5:03 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

In further denial of Hasselbecks decline:

I didn’t remember until I heard the Seahawks round table on KJR talk about it the other day, but Hasselbeck took a hit that looked like it rang his bell pretty good. I think it was the Wilson hit he made the fine comments about but he got up from it looking pretty punch drunk, one of the lineman had to guide him back to the huddle. It doesn’t explain the lack of zip on his passes but it might explain the poor decision making. Or am I just grasping at straws?

by Nate Dogg on Nov 21, 2008 5:00 PM PST   0 recs

One game can have all sorts of irregularities...

I’ve read things to the effect that Hasselbeck was punchy. I didn’t see it, but it’s possible. Just for the record, I’m not saying Hasselbeck is absolutely in decline, only that it’s something we should consider.

by John Morgan on Nov 21, 2008 5:47 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I think Seattle will draft a quarterback.

It might be earlier than the mid-rounds.

by John Morgan on Nov 21, 2008 6:09 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I think that's going to be a project through winter and spring

get some real scouting reports on the college quarterbacks. I’ve never read so much junk as the average NFL draft site.

by John Morgan on Nov 21, 2008 6:24 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Daniels

Has college great and pro dud written all over him in my eyes. I dunno, just the way I see it. I’d like to draft Dan LeFevour from Central Michigan if he comes out this year, we’d be able to snag him in round 3-4 ish and would be a great study under Hass in my opinion. Anyone else see him play?

by Woodinville_12thMan on Nov 21, 2008 9:48 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Chase Daniels?

                     There is no way in hell that we should draft another quarterback who can’t see over the line. How many failed attempts do you morons have to see before you realize that short QB’s from the spread offense do not work in the NFL. Daniels will never be a franchise QB.

by vanillathrilla on Nov 22, 2008 2:29 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

You're words are so kind and gentle

But I actually agree. There are too many examples of short QB’s failing and not enough of them succeeding (only Brees in the NFL now). And he’s not exactly mobile like Mike Vick to make up for it. I don’t think Daniels will be terrible, but I certainly don’t like him enough to use a mid-round pick on him.

If we’re going to draft a QB, we should use a late pick on a guy that has potential and a prototypical NFL body. Maybe a mid to late-rounder on a guy like Curtis Painter from Purdue. I’ve seen draft boards that have him in the top 5 QBs and other that put him barely in the top 10. He’s streaky, but can be really accurate (63%).

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Nov 22, 2008 3:05 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Drew Brees?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 22, 2008 9:16 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

No need to be a tool. It's

not hard to express your opinion without coming off as a total assclown.

by redwolf75 on Nov 22, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

For some it is.

It’s funny too. I’m not endorsing Daniels at all. He just fits Ruskell’s mold of high achievers that will be devalued because of their height.

by John Morgan on Nov 22, 2008 10:34 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I suggest

you read this before commenting again.

by BrianL on Nov 22, 2008 2:05 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

When you're 33 it's hard to be in anything but decline

I just might disagree about the extent of the decline.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 21, 2008 5:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

under the radar?

He is the 3rd biggest name receiver in ncaa football behind only heywardbey and crabtree. He is unlikely to fall past the second round. I am sure there are quality receivers out there who are flying under the radar because of poor QB play or run heavy playbooks. These guys are harder to spot though. A big name guy like Maclin on a big name team like Mizzou is going for face value. He may have fallen a tad off the sportscenter radar, but not off of NFL scouts’.

I don’t think Ruskell takes a wideout in the first round. I personally think he will take Taylor Mays. I am not sure I love that pick, but I think he takes the toolsy, high character Seattle kid. Guaranteed to improve us at FS given the circumstances.

by michaelfox99 on Nov 21, 2008 5:07 PM PST   0 recs

Where does safety fall in the premium vs non-premium debate?

I think that Ruskell would classify safety as non-premium. Take it for what it’s worth, but since Ruskell was named the Director of College Scouting in 1992 for Tampa his teams have drafted 3 safeties in the first 3 rounds of the draft, none of them in the first round. Of course there are a lot of ins and outs to a draft, but it would go against his (admittedly limited) track record if he took a safety in the first round.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 21, 2008 5:36 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Mays?

No way. He’s ranked somewhere around the number 5-7 DB in the draft. If Ruskell spends his first round draft pick on him he should be f-ing executed! He’ll still be there for sure in the second, and maybe the third.

by vanillathrilla on Nov 22, 2008 2:34 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I agree with this. I bet a lot of the

Mays hype has been due to all the mock draft sites overselling him.

by redwolf75 on Nov 22, 2008 10:30 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Mays is overhyped

He’s also going to hang the Combine from hooks while burning it with lit cigarettes. Mays’ play does not deserve first round consideration, but his talent makes it almost impossible he slips. Rule Number One: Don’t Google “NFL Draft”. The only draft site I know at all grounded in reality is NFLDraftScout.com. It’s pretty hit and miss, but the guy who runs it has some sense of the NFL. ESPN, which I wouldn’t trust with my draft, but, again, knows something about the NFL Draft, lists Mays at 30. Give him a 4.3/40, 30 reps at the 225 and some other such nonsense and he’ll shoot up the boards. I still think Mays plays linebacker in the pros. In a cover 2 style defense, or in a single gap 3-4, he could be a monster.

by John Morgan on Nov 22, 2008 10:42 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

What?
Some passengers were thrown from their seats by turbulence as lightning crackled around the storm-tossed plane, USC sports information director Tim Tessalone told The Associated Press on Friday. Safety Taylor Mays was screaming.

by John Morgan on Nov 22, 2008 11:37 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I'm not a screamer, but that doesn't make Mays a crybaby.

I’m sure everyone thought they were dead.

This is so Lawrence Jackson:

Defensive end Lawrence Jackson said he was going to see the team trainer because a Popsicle stick pierced the inside of his mouth during the drop.

by John Morgan on Nov 22, 2008 11:45 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I suppose

I just thought it was funny that they singled out Mays for screaming, implying that he was the only one – even if they were all, understandably, scared shitless.

That bit about LoJack is hilarious. I didn’t even catch it the first time I read it because that was before we drafted the guy. I just remembered it since people started mentioning Mays, but wow, LoJack, wow…

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Nov 22, 2008 11:55 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Hey I completely forgot

ITS THE RETURN OF SHAUN!!!!!

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 21, 2008 6:31 PM PST   0 recs

He's supposedly going to be inactive

So he should be expected to gain the same number of yards on far less carries. Start ’em if you got ’em!

by Nate Dogg on Nov 21, 2008 6:44 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I'm not wild about this 90 IPA

The word “treacle” comes to mind. Seriously, too sweet and not in a complimentary or complementary way.

by John Morgan on Nov 21, 2008 9:15 PM PST   0 recs

It's time we had a "John Morgan's Guide to Beer Connoisseurship" post

My palate is replacement level at best, I judge beers on a scale of goodness.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 21, 2008 10:38 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I just say what I like.

If you’re looking for a primer, check out Beer Advocate.

by John Morgan on Nov 22, 2008 10:35 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

You say we have a lot of pieces to start rebuilding with, but we don’t have a quarterback of the future. We’re far better served getting one in this draft to begin teaching the game to under Hasslebeck. And we’re far better served taking a QB with our first pick.

Chase Daniels doesn’t seem NFL ready.

by maxmillian on Nov 22, 2008 1:32 PM PST   0 recs

A QB I like is Zac Robinson of Oklahoma State

As far as the draft, I think it is Michael Oher, Andre Smith or Eugene Monroe.

There’s a good chance Oher, Monroe and Smith are all gone by our pick, in that case I think we would trade down into value range for Duke Robinson, possibly adding a 2nd rounder in the trade.

Duke can start and dominate right away at RG and has potential as an OT as well. All-pro G, solid OT.

I think you can pass on Michael Crabtree in the 1st and hope to get at the top of the 2nd or trade up into the late 1st for Darrius Heyward-bey, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt or Derrick Williams.

I think you can pass on Taylor Mays or William Moore at S in the 1st, because in the 2nd-3rd you should have a shot at Kam Chancellor, Patrick Chung, Myron Rolle, Emanuel Cook, Rashad Johnson, Derek Pegues, Courtney Greene, Kevin Ellison, Nic Harris, David Bruton, Curtis Taylor, Lendy Holmes, Michael Hamlin.

So, I think the 1st round is oline unless they fall in love with Sam Bradford or Mark Sanchez.

by puerto on Nov 22, 2008 3:06 PM PST   0 recs

Anyone watch the BC game?

Raji is a lot of fun to watch, is he really a second rounder?

by Nate Dogg on Nov 22, 2008 3:42 PM PST   0 recs

I didn't, but Raji is my favorite prospect

Late first, early second. That’s where he stands right now.

by John Morgan on Nov 22, 2008 3:49 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

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