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Game Thread: Redskins @ Seahawks

I just heard Bill Cowher give his first key to the Jets beating the Titans:

Play Mistake Free Football

And now they're showing a Jet sacking Matt Hasselbeck evidencing New York's pass rush. The two teams haven't played since 2004. I have to ask, do sports fans really deserve so little?

According to Football Outsiders, Washington has the 11th ranked pass defense. That's on par with the Cardinals. Functionally, they're equivalent. Arizona embarrassed Seattle's passing offense and no one played worse than Hasselbeck. So here we go, one week later, does Hasselbeck play better? He can't bounce back, because last Sunday is in line with how he's played all season. Per play, Hasselbeck has contributed less than JaMarcus Russell. He's been, plainly, horawful.

Word is, Chris Spencer might not start. That would mean Field Gulls favorites Floyd Womack and Steve Vallos will start. Know the name Kedric Golston? Give it six hours. That should further weaken Seattle's run game putting that much more pressure on Matt Hasselbeck. And round and round...

Seattle needs a great game by its defense to win. With the conference out of reach, how jacked can they be? Seattle is completely outmatched and truly worse than their statistics say. Yet I have this sneaking suspicion Seattle will win. Watch Justin Forsett.

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Finnegan just jammed Favre on a Wild Whatever

Answering the question, why not have the corner jam the quarterback?

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

What I've learned this morning

NFL coaches do not know the rules of the NFL. First Jeff Fisher and now Wade Phillips do not know that a player’s entire foot must be in bounds for the player to be in bounds.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

What I've learned this morning

Jeff Fisher is environmentally friendly, preferring to sky dive to practice. And you don’t test Cortland Finnegan, my favorite black Irishman.

by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Just got an INT.

The refs are such idiots that they ruled it a backward pass when it doesn’t even matter since he took it midair…

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow... Anyone watching Baltimore vs. Philly?

The refs are BONING Philly. This is just terrible.

by dlinsley on Nov 23, 2008 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah McNabb stunk it up...

8/18 with 2 Ints. I don’t think it was too wise to replace him with kolb, though. Kolb hasn’t shown anything thus far- his accuracy, arm strength and pocket presence is killing the eagles.

Also, Trevor Laws is playing and doing decently. He’s lined up at the nose and was pushed around a little bit at first, but seems to have settled down. The eagles are really stuffing the run right now.

by dlinsley on Nov 23, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Kolb throws an INT in the end zone to Ed Reed

Reed goes 108 yards, running past Kolb and Westbrook. Man I’d love to have that guy on my D.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

McNabb has 2int and a fumble

Haven’t watched any of the game but caught a game break where he stared down DeSean Jackson allowing Ed Reed to come over and make an easy pick

by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 23, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

TEN scored prett quick

27-13 Jets still, I hope the Titans still win.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Dammit

4-4 TEN30 (3:49) B.Favre pass incomplete deep right to L.Coles. PENALTY on TEN-C.Carr, Defensive Pass Interference, 24 yards, enforced at TEN 30 – No Play.
On a 4th down? That sucks.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Dalas up 32-9

in the 4th quarter. why have Romo in still?

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

I wonder how this happened?
1-10 DET28 (12:42) Det #11-D. Culpepper back in at QB. D.Stanton sacke…

Apparently Daunte fumbles, and Stanton is sacked?

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

Prediction.

Should we lose today, the local media will spend the next four days lamenting the fact that the Seahawks didn’t manage to retain the services of Jim Zorn.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, I heard during the Dallas game

that Nick Folk hasn’t gotten a TB all season. Makes you appreciate Marr-Ay taht much more.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey look another touchback.

Hey look we still have two kickers on the roster.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Hey Fox

Switch the damn telecast!

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Nice play Jennings.

Good start by the defense today.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

Babineaux was close,

and Bernard was fairly close as well, had a hand up as Campbell was passing.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice punt, Plack

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Good run by Hass

but I cringe everytime he does it anyways.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

My heart sank when he stumbled as he broke for the run

Thought he screwed his knee

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Lousy throw

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

all of the above

plus some natural decline probably

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, couldn't get the bounce

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Tapp

Should have started all season.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

Why didn't Peterson try and wrap him up?

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Trufant gets the tackle.

Brian Russell Jumps on him afterwards for no apparent reason.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

And then crawls across him to get off

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOO

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

BOOOOOOM bitches

Can't wait for Ruskell to knock this one out of the park.

by abender20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

Come on, Hass

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

That's such a basic call

by those rules, every throw away would be grounding.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

He had all day in there. Somebody fucked up on that one. Hass hasn’t looked great, but he’s smart enough to not do that

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Mare good from 44.

And we still have two kickers.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

I don't understand QB ratings

How does Matt have a 39.6 rating? he hasn’t completed a pass

by MFAN on Nov 23, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Mare for Pro Bowl?

He’s gotta be under consideration, right?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 23, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

According to Pearson

A West Coast offense includes everything an offense can possibly do.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

This cameraman sucks

That’s the third time now that he’s bit hard on playaction

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

Makes sense

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

I was just about to say that it was Michael Boulware on camerawork.

by Strang on Nov 23, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Whew

Been a long time since I’ve seen one go off the front of the crossbar

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Sea-Bass did it a couple weeks ago against the Panthers.

It was in the neighborhood of 55-58 yards, the Raiders were not in the game in the 4th quarter. It was the same game he took the Raiders career scoring lead.

by cashless on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Brain Russell Safety Blitz

Wow. I guarantee no one saw that coming.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

Not sure what happened to our punter

but this week and last week, he’s looked a lot better.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

So Ryan is really outplaying Ryan

I think I might have a little crow to eat about the Plackemeier thing.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Oh for fuck's sake

That almost killed me

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

Another stream, please

can’t get stooge.tv to work and get a virus warning on top of that.

by vj on Nov 23, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

See, now THAT's grounding

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

I have sold several cars for $30k or higher

Specifically as Christmas Gifts. Fuck those people, but it does happen

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That was funny

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 23, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know...

…I saw quite a bit of intensity in the 2nd half of last week’s game.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Man does Hasselbeck suck.

I’ve never seen him play like this.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

TO?

Our offense is so damn retarded.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

Jesus eff

Chess match? Hasselbeck is playing like a goddamn jobber.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

Send Matt to IR.

My reactionary post of the day.

by redwolf75 on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

Who is going to be worth drafting in this class though?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 23, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on who declares

Could be an awesome draft if some guys get in there.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't tackle?

That’s okay. Just hurl yourself randomly in the ball carrier’s general area.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Woah, Moss was a dick the whole time!

and then he threw a punch? He should be out of the game.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

what the hell....

Moss shouldn’t even be in the game…

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

NO WAY

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

You are effing kidding me

Illegal use of an oblong spheroid, loss of game, go Steelers.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

KoRo, nice catch!

isthat our first catch by a WR?

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

Morris looking good again,

so now JJ is in. and he has a HUGE CARRY!!!

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

What time does the game start?

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Hold onto the ball a bit longer Hass...

And get sacked so we’re out of FG range…

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

Russell was only even decent...

…playing 20 yards off the line in zone coverage. Leave him alone in the backfield and you’re taking a bad chance.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

God dammit.

Does everyone try to convert fourth and short against us?

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Aw that's cute.

They’re using the slip-n-slide in Washington now.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

So...

who didn’t run their route?

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

he did have

a guy falling at his feet though, looks like he freaked out

by scotthawk on Nov 23, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

It was just so errant, I figured someone must have quit their route.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell Hasselbeck...

That was the worst pass ever…. taking out his anger on KoRo by passing it to Landry or something?

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

He had a couple of those last week as well...

If he is not done for the season then he need to knock that crap off.

by brokejumper on Nov 23, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't mind offsides penalties

at least he’s working on his first step.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, Branch!

Is it wrong that I’m so happy a Seahawks receiver didn’t drop a pass?

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

3rd downs are so predictable.

Short pass, and then a run for the first down, and sometime more than just that.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

No, Russell.

You want to wrap up the ball carrier. The guy holding the football.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

With Russell

Any time is a bad time to play under man. Short circuits our entire defense.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks FOX

I have no clue what we even challenged.

by MFAN on Nov 23, 2008 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

"Of course Seattle fans wanting Arizona to lose"?

I actually want Arizona to win, since I hate the Giants.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Damn Mo.

You’re a man possessed today.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

WOOOOO!

Okay Ryan you’re off my shitlist.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

Jon Ryan!

what the hell, transformation from something ugly to something gorgeous.

by LantermanC on Nov 23, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

Good Game

Let’s see how they close it out.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

I am no longer ashamed to admit

That I am wearing a Brian Russell jersey. Like, right now.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

FUCK FUCK

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

AND FUCK

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

By Matt's reaction

it looks like someone fucked up their route.

by BrianL on Nov 23, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

Second CONSECUTIVE game ending INT

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

No

He had INTs between them. :(

by cashless on Nov 23, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant 2 games in a row that he did that

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 23, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I know.

Just being facetious while mentioning the other INTs at the same time.

by cashless on Nov 23, 2008 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Koren Robinson

Needs to go. Good stopgap, but not a starter.

by HawksFanHernandez on Nov 23, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

good game.

D showed a lot.

Mo and Oline showed a lot.

Young guys look sweet.

worst. qb. ever.

by dlinsley on Nov 23, 2008 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

Haters?

Come on man. Did you watch the game? Matt was awful. Everyone ages. Think about the best running back in team history.

by John Morgan on Nov 23, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

sigh...

I’m just sad the whole nation has to be subjected to our sad sack of a team on Thanksgiving.

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Nov 23, 2008 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

I'm not

normally we have to deal with the Lions

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 23, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

well, you can turn that one off

The Seahawks are on Fox, but CBS has the Titans/Lions game. The Seahawks play the late game, so I might eat during the early game and fall asleep for the carnage.

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Nov 23, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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