Game Thread: Seahawks @ Cowboys
Seattle Seahawks @ Dallas Cowboys
Sunday represented definitive evidence that Matt Hasselbeck is in decline. No. There's a powerful counterargument that's as Anne as the nose on plain's face:
Washington's Starting Secondary
SS 24 Shawn Springs
RCB 22 Charles Rogers
LCB 27 Fred Smoot
FS 30 Laron Landry
Nickel and dime formations included:
CB 23 Deangelo Hall
That's as talented a collection of coverage defensive backs as any team in the NFL or any team of recent memory. It's an explanation that accounts for all of Hasselbeck's failures: the too generous spacing on passes, the long holds and double clutches, the interceptions, the incompletions, the pass defenses appearing on sure completions--
Well not all. There are the persisting problems of errant passes and the rest of the season. Let's play blind man. Let's say we want Matt Hasselbeck to be fine, in the midst of a late career swoon, but primed to bounce back. Let's start with the conclusion we want and find evidence to back it.
- The first four games can be accounted for by a poor and inexperienced receiver corps.
- The game against Arizona can be accounted for by the first week back from injury.
That's not terribly unreasonable. It certainly doesn't account for just how bad Hasselbeck has played, but the excuses are plausible.
The Cowboys' pass defense is predicated on pressure. Its secondary is not playing well. Among types of targets, the Cowboys are only above average at defending #1 wide receivers. At all other positions, Dallas is average or below average.
Seattle is thin at #1, but deep at all other receiver positions. Matt Hasselbeck's read seems intact. If he hasn't lost too much arm strength and accuracy for it to matter, he should find targets today. If he doesn't, if he again cripples his team with ineffectiveness, plays like he's hurt whatever news to the contrary, the time to IR him is now and the time to draft a quarterback of the future near.

Editor's Note: Holy belly diving Christ on a Slip and Slide the Lions are bad.
Scruffy's Note: Here my Video Preview for the short week. I have a feeling this is a typical monday morning meeting for Bruce Dehaven and John Marshall.
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I desperately need Calvin Johnson to score this week
for fantasy purposes. Imagine what the man could do with a QB better than Dan Orlovsky or Daunte Culpepper.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 27, 2008 11:27 AM PST
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Haha...
…did you JUST notice that Washington had that good of a secondary?
As for the Lions… man. I wonder if that Bradford kid is watching this and cringing at the thought of next April.
by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 10:40 AM PST 0 recs
Watching Hass against the Cards
I saw more zip on the ball then I had see before he went down. But last week was the complete opposite.
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 27, 2008 10:46 AM PST 0 recs
Oh and for anyone that didn't know
Its always sunny has been picked up for 39 more episodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 27, 2008 10:47 AM PST 0 recs
Also, in honor of the AD reference
An Arrested Development movie is supposedly in the works with Ron Howard and Mitch Hurwitz both signed on.
by niko on
Nov 27, 2008 11:21 AM PST
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I love that AD is coming back (sort of)
but how little money is that movie gonna make? Its impossible to establish all of the characters over again in the length of a movie, so only avid watchers of the show are gonna find it funny. And obviously the number of avid watchers is low, otherwise the show wouldn’t have been cancelled in the first place. —> Not going to make any money, sounds like a straight-to-DVD movie, but probably still hilarious.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Nov 27, 2008 11:30 AM PST
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Man,
I woke up at 11:30, turned on the TV, and saw the 35-7 score but was confused because I thought the game started at 10. Then I remembered that it was the Lions.
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 11:49 AM PST 0 recs
Heres to hoping we continue our streak
of winning games against Dallas we have no business winning.
by Nate Dogg on Nov 27, 2008 12:12 PM PST 0 recs
Not gonna be able to post during the game
So I’ll just say Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! and GO SEAHAWKS!
by MFAN on Nov 27, 2008 12:42 PM PST 0 recs
I was a fan of the fro hawk earlier in the season
but now I’m rather lukewarm on it
by Willie Mays Haze on
Nov 27, 2008 1:31 PM PST
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Football yay
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:31 PM PST 0 recs
Trufant just stood there and let him catch that
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:31 PM PST 0 recs
yup
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:34 PM PST 0 recs
OH MY GOD PLAY THE #($($& GAME
I absolutely abhor FOX’s practice of going to commercial after kickoffs.
by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 1:39 PM PST 0 recs
Nice moves KoRo
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:40 PM PST 0 recs
Weaver killed his man
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:42 PM PST 0 recs
fuck
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:43 PM PST 0 recs
way to go there julius.
damn
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:43 PM PST 0 recs
on a brighter note...
hass looks a LOT better on his throws early.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:44 PM PST 0 recs
Well, Matt looks a lot better
Julius is a little to amped up.
by MFAN on Nov 27, 2008 1:44 PM PST 0 recs
the o-line looks decent early too.
matt’s taking 5-step drops and getting good time to throw
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 1:45 PM PST
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that witten catch could have easily been a pick
that was a fine pick
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:48 PM PST 0 recs
or fine catch i should say
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 1:48 PM PST
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when's Red Bryant gonna be back?
All this Howard Green does no one any good.
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 27, 2008 1:50 PM PST 0 recs
yup
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:51 PM PST 0 recs
wow, that was ridiculous
defensive player:
DUH COACH DEY’RE LIKE ALL SPRED OUT… COULD BE DRAW, COACH?
Marshall
No. They’re clearly going deep. Play pass.
by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 1:52 PM PST 0 recs
Man, do I hate the Cowboys
I’m not usually one for schadenfreude, but I truly hope they miss the playoffs.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:53 PM PST 0 recs
I am a huge believer in schadenfreude
In a Seattle sports year like this it’s all I have
by Willie Mays Haze on
Nov 27, 2008 1:56 PM PST
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no, we won't be kicking any field goals today
why bother, at 2-9 and down by 21 points after the first quarter?
by djafrot on
Nov 27, 2008 1:57 PM PST
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c'mon rocky
make a play. the hell with TO
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:55 PM PST 0 recs
CARLSON!
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:57 PM PST 0 recs
CARLSON!
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:59 PM PST 0 recs
WTF
throw the hitch to the FB on 3rd and 1?
Wow, Holmy, wow.
by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:00 PM PST 0 recs
attack the secondary guys
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:00 PM PST 0 recs
why boo julius jones?
everybody got what they wanted and he never bad-mouthed dallas.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:02 PM PST 0 recs
why attempt that throw?
even if he catches that it’s no where near a first
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 27, 2008 2:02 PM PST 0 recs
3rd and 23
you’re pretty much kicking a fg. you’re just trying to make it shorter.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 2:04 PM PST
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wilson got worked
you kinda knew that was coming.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:04 PM PST 0 recs
ugh
to make matters worse, I have Witten on my fantasy team and didn’t start him because everything I read warned me he was still too hurt.
by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:09 PM PST 0 recs
Mark Wahlburg
will play Jim Mora in the movie inevitably made about this season.
by J_G on Nov 27, 2008 2:12 PM PST 0 recs
i hate everything and want to die a million gallizion times
by Robert on Nov 27, 2008 2:13 PM PST 0 recs
watch more college football
and just start imagining people in Seahawks blue.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 2:17 PM PST
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At this point...
I’d rather have the higher draft choice than the wins. I’d like us to be more competitive, but if you’re not going to even compete for a playoff spot ending up 7-9 does nothing for you going forward. That’s the rationalization I’m rolling with.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 2:16 PM PST
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three or four draft spots does not make up for the ugliness of a 2-14 season
and that doesn’t even factor in salary differences.
by djafrot on
Nov 27, 2008 2:22 PM PST
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that's more than a few spots
it’s enough to make a difference (obviously you have to draft well).
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 2:25 PM PST
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c'mon deion
catch the ball
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:26 PM PST 0 recs
who the heck are the jonas brothers?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:28 PM PST 0 recs
I think
they’re like the male version of Hannah Montana.
by J_G on
Nov 27, 2008 2:30 PM PST
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Man they're really picking on Vallos
sucks to be him today.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:34 PM PST 0 recs
can we all agree that Matt seems to have returned to form?
he’s not getting a whiff of help from the WR’s or offensive line.
by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:34 PM PST 0 recs
Looks a lot better
passes outside the numbers still have a little float but he definitely looks better
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 2:35 PM PST
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Julius Jones had a nice blitz pickup there at least...
Matt is looking a lot better, and on the road even.
by Strang on Nov 27, 2008 2:41 PM PST 0 recs
thanksgiving with the seahawks
It tastes like sack.
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by wackomann on Nov 27, 2008 2:45 PM PST 0 recs
what goes unnoticed
is that the receivers just don’t get open in tight spaces. hass is taking short drops and no one is there.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:46 PM PST 0 recs
never thought i'd yearn for the standard holmgren draw
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 2:47 PM PST
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Even if I didn't have to take my bloated ass to work
I would still turn this game off. Embarrassing.
Dick Dastardly and Muttley with sick laughter
by Wayward Llama on Nov 27, 2008 2:47 PM PST 0 recs
why isn't that grounding?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:48 PM PST 0 recs
I have nothing to add
Just a terrible matchup come to fruition.
by John Morgan on Nov 27, 2008 3:03 PM PST 0 recs
C'mon John
you can’t be so hard on Fox for scheduling a boy band at halftime of the Thanksgiving day game.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Nov 27, 2008 3:06 PM PST
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demi lovato
Lovato may have been worse for what she did to the national anthem.
I put the over-under at two years for any of the Jonas Brothers to develop a drinking problem.
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by wackomann on
Nov 27, 2008 3:12 PM PST
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I can't wait.
In 20 years, lifetime will put out a movie about it too.
Kirk Cameron will play all three.
by J_G on
Nov 27, 2008 3:13 PM PST
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guys, it's the JONAS BROTHERS!!!95!1!
and they brought 7 or 8 of their closest friends to be the crowd
by Will Kier on
Nov 27, 2008 3:16 PM PST
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you might want to get checked out
…just to make sure it isn’t ebola virus.
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by wackomann on
Nov 27, 2008 3:20 PM PST
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If it was ebola, blood would be coming out of all holes. Luckily the Jonas
Brothers aren’t that bad
by redwolf75 on
Nov 27, 2008 3:27 PM PST
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reminds me...
That sounds like a bad night of consuming Olestra-laced foods.
Somewhat unrelated, Peter Griffin once said Christina Aguilera was offensive to all five senses.
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