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Game Thread: Seahawks @ Cowboys

Seattle Seahawks @ Dallas Cowboys


Sunday represented definitive evidence that Matt Hasselbeck is in decline. No. There's a powerful counterargument that's as Anne as the nose on plain's face:

Washington's Starting Secondary

SS 24 Shawn Springs

RCB 22 Charles Rogers

LCB 27 Fred Smoot

FS 30 Laron Landry

Nickel and dime formations included:

CB 23 Deangelo Hall

That's as talented a collection of coverage defensive backs as any team in the NFL or any team of recent memory. It's an explanation that accounts for all of Hasselbeck's failures: the too generous spacing on passes, the long holds and double clutches, the interceptions, the incompletions, the pass defenses appearing on sure completions--

Well not all. There are the persisting problems of errant passes and the rest of the season. Let's play blind man. Let's say we want Matt Hasselbeck to be fine, in the midst of a late career swoon, but primed to bounce back. Let's start with the conclusion we want and find evidence to back it.

  • The first four games can be accounted for by a poor and inexperienced receiver corps.
  • The game against Arizona can be accounted for by the first week back from injury.

That's not terribly unreasonable. It certainly doesn't account for just how bad Hasselbeck has played, but the excuses are plausible.

The Cowboys' pass defense is predicated on pressure. Its secondary is not playing well. Among types of targets, the Cowboys are only above average at defending #1 wide receivers. At all other positions, Dallas is average or below average.

Seattle is thin at #1, but deep at all other receiver positions. Matt Hasselbeck's read seems intact. If he hasn't lost too much arm strength and accuracy for it to matter, he should find targets today. If he doesn't, if he again cripples his team with ineffectiveness, plays like he's hurt whatever news to the contrary, the time to IR him is now and the time to draft a quarterback of the future near.

Star-divide

Editor's Note: Holy belly diving Christ on a Slip and Slide the Lions are bad.

Scruffy's Note: Here my Video Preview for the short week. I have a feeling this is a typical monday morning meeting for Bruce Dehaven and John Marshall. 


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Agreed

The Lions are atrocious

by jimmimoose on Nov 27, 2008 10:38 AM PST   0 recs

I desperately need Calvin Johnson to score this week

for fantasy purposes. Imagine what the man could do with a QB better than Dan Orlovsky or Daunte Culpepper.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Nov 27, 2008 11:27 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Haha...

…did you JUST notice that Washington had that good of a secondary?

As for the Lions… man. I wonder if that Bradford kid is watching this and cringing at the thought of next April.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 10:40 AM PST   0 recs

Watching Hass against the Cards

I saw more zip on the ball then I had see before he went down. But last week was the complete opposite.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 27, 2008 10:46 AM PST   0 recs

Oh and for anyone that didn't know

Its always sunny has been picked up for 39 more episodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 27, 2008 10:47 AM PST   0 recs

Score!

I’m thankful for that show

by jimmimoose on Nov 27, 2008 10:59 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Also, in honor of the AD reference

An Arrested Development movie is supposedly in the works with Ron Howard and Mitch Hurwitz both signed on.

by niko on Nov 27, 2008 11:21 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I love that AD is coming back (sort of)

but how little money is that movie gonna make? Its impossible to establish all of the characters over again in the length of a movie, so only avid watchers of the show are gonna find it funny. And obviously the number of avid watchers is low, otherwise the show wouldn’t have been cancelled in the first place. —> Not going to make any money, sounds like a straight-to-DVD movie, but probably still hilarious.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Nov 27, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Man,

I woke up at 11:30, turned on the TV, and saw the 35-7 score but was confused because I thought the game started at 10. Then I remembered that it was the Lions.

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 11:49 AM PST   0 recs

Heres to hoping we continue our streak

of winning games against Dallas we have no business winning.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 27, 2008 12:12 PM PST   0 recs

Not gonna be able to post during the game

So I’ll just say Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! and GO SEAHAWKS!

by MFAN on Nov 27, 2008 12:42 PM PST   0 recs

So

Frohawk, yay or nay?

by John Morgan on Nov 27, 2008 1:26 PM PST   0 recs

Football yay

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:31 PM PST   0 recs

Trufant just stood there and let him catch that

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:31 PM PST   0 recs

yup

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:34 PM PST   0 recs

OH MY GOD PLAY THE #($&#($& GAME

I absolutely abhor FOX’s practice of going to commercial after kickoffs.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 1:39 PM PST   0 recs

Nice moves KoRo

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:40 PM PST   0 recs

Weaver killed his man

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:42 PM PST   0 recs

fuck

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:43 PM PST   0 recs

way to go there julius.

damn

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:43 PM PST   0 recs

on a brighter note...

hass looks a LOT better on his throws early.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:44 PM PST   0 recs

Well, Matt looks a lot better

Julius is a little to amped up.

by MFAN on Nov 27, 2008 1:44 PM PST   0 recs

the o-line looks decent early too.

matt’s taking 5-step drops and getting good time to throw

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:45 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

that witten catch could have easily been a pick

that was a fine pick

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:48 PM PST   0 recs

or fine catch i should say

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:48 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

when's Red Bryant gonna be back?

All this Howard Green does no one any good.

by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 27, 2008 1:50 PM PST   0 recs

yup

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:51 PM PST   0 recs

wow, that was ridiculous

defensive player:
DUH COACH DEY’RE LIKE ALL SPRED OUT… COULD BE DRAW, COACH?

Marshall
No. They’re clearly going deep. Play pass.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 1:52 PM PST   0 recs

Man, do I hate the Cowboys

I’m not usually one for schadenfreude, but I truly hope they miss the playoffs.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:53 PM PST   0 recs

So

41-13?

by John Morgan on Nov 27, 2008 1:54 PM PST   0 recs

no, we won't be kicking any field goals today

why bother, at 2-9 and down by 21 points after the first quarter?

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 1:57 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

c'mon rocky

make a play. the hell with TO

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 1:55 PM PST   0 recs

CARLSON!

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:57 PM PST   0 recs

CARLSON!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2008 1:59 PM PST   0 recs

WTF

throw the hitch to the FB on 3rd and 1?

Wow, Holmy, wow.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:00 PM PST   0 recs

attack the secondary guys

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:00 PM PST   0 recs

why boo julius jones?

everybody got what they wanted and he never bad-mouthed dallas.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:02 PM PST   0 recs

why attempt that throw?

even if he catches that it’s no where near a first

by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 27, 2008 2:02 PM PST   0 recs

3rd and 23

you’re pretty much kicking a fg. you’re just trying to make it shorter.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:04 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

wilson got worked

you kinda knew that was coming.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:04 PM PST   0 recs

ugh

to make matters worse, I have Witten on my fantasy team and didn’t start him because everything I read warned me he was still too hurt.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:09 PM PST   0 recs

double ugh

screw you, reality.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:12 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Great play

by Grant.

by J_G on Nov 27, 2008 2:10 PM PST   0 recs

Mark Wahlburg

will play Jim Mora in the movie inevitably made about this season.

by J_G on Nov 27, 2008 2:12 PM PST   0 recs

watch more college football

and just start imagining people in Seahawks blue.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:17 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

At this point...

I’d rather have the higher draft choice than the wins. I’d like us to be more competitive, but if you’re not going to even compete for a playoff spot ending up 7-9 does nothing for you going forward. That’s the rationalization I’m rolling with.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:16 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

that's more than a few spots

it’s enough to make a difference (obviously you have to draft well).

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:25 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

c'mon deion

catch the ball

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:26 PM PST   0 recs

who the heck are the jonas brothers?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:28 PM PST   0 recs

I think

they’re like the male version of Hannah Montana.

by J_G on Nov 27, 2008 2:30 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Man they're really picking on Vallos

sucks to be him today.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:34 PM PST   0 recs

can we all agree that Matt seems to have returned to form?

he’s not getting a whiff of help from the WR’s or offensive line.

by djafrot on Nov 27, 2008 2:34 PM PST   0 recs

Looks a lot better

passes outside the numbers still have a little float but he definitely looks better

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:35 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Julius Jones had a nice blitz pickup there at least...

Matt is looking a lot better, and on the road even.

by Strang on Nov 27, 2008 2:41 PM PST   0 recs

what goes unnoticed

is that the receivers just don’t get open in tight spaces. hass is taking short drops and no one is there.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:46 PM PST   0 recs

never thought i'd yearn for the standard holmgren draw

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:47 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Even if I didn't have to take my bloated ass to work

I would still turn this game off. Embarrassing.

Dick Dastardly and Muttley with sick laughter

by Wayward Llama on Nov 27, 2008 2:47 PM PST   0 recs

why isn't that grounding?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 2:48 PM PST   0 recs

I have nothing to add

Just a terrible matchup come to fruition.

by John Morgan on Nov 27, 2008 3:03 PM PST   0 recs

C'mon John

you can’t be so hard on Fox for scheduling a boy band at halftime of the Thanksgiving day game.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 27, 2008 3:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

demi lovato

Lovato may have been worse for what she did to the national anthem.

I put the over-under at two years for any of the Jonas Brothers to develop a drinking problem.

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Nov 27, 2008 3:12 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I can't wait.

In 20 years, lifetime will put out a movie about it too.

Kirk Cameron will play all three.

by J_G on Nov 27, 2008 3:13 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

guys, it's the JONAS BROTHERS!!!95!1!

and they brought 7 or 8 of their closest friends to be the crowd

by Will Kier on Nov 27, 2008 3:16 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

you might want to get checked out

…just to make sure it isn’t ebola virus.

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Nov 27, 2008 3:20 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

reminds me...

That sounds like a bad night of consuming Olestra-laced foods.

Somewhat unrelated, Peter Griffin once said Christina Aguilera was offensive to all five senses.