Game Thread: Seattle @ Saint Louis
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 9:45 AM PST
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Before we rip into this, here's a cold shower for people who think stats have figured out team sports. I think stats are the worst application of statistical analysis for football. Attempting to attribute a quantitative value for one player, who is wholly interdependent on his teammates and scheme, and affected by an equally messy and interdependent set of opponents, seems foolish to the extreme. Instead, I wish analysis would center on research. Research like Football Outsiders work on running back workloads and the quarterback's role in sack prevention, or Advanced Football Stats look at Air Yards and the volatility of interceptions, allow us to better understand the game and more accurately scout an individual player's contributions. Scouting, though it's laborious and lacks the Zeitgeist-aligned, scientific-seeming objectivity of stats, is still the best measure of the contributions, quality and potential of an individual player.
Ahem.
I have this friend who says "action". "Action." "Action." The good, the bad, the heady, the busy: "Action." The action has Seattle favored by three. A system not tuned to bait gamblers to blow their savings gives Seattle a 65% chance of winning. I think most Seahawks fans would find a loss today pretty damn embarrassing.
But a word to the wise, the Patriots defense Seattle faced last Sunday was ephemeral. Their combination of injuries and nearly green (and yet somehow ancient) injury replacements is not soon to be seen again in the NFL. Seneca Wallace has taken a big step avoiding pass rush, but he's not the quarterback who carved New England's geriatric eleven like a Christmas ham. Further, he's never been a very good rusher. The man with the best arm on the team (*Sigh) and eyebrows like a drag queen is a fumble machine. His humiliation of the chondroitin seven reads Mike Vrabel's bad hip, Teddy Bruschi's chorea, Roosevelt Colvin's polio, Larry Izzo's dry bellyache, Gary Guyton's sympathetic impetigo and Junior Seau's wandering bladder. As categorically shitty as Saint Louis is, and Hobbes couldn't write a bleaker treatise on humanity, the Patriots pass defense from last Sunday is a kind radical, fundamentally unsound awful that collapses in on itself and is expelled from a white hole outside the Frogstar system.
Same storylines: Branch, Atkins, Wrotto and Locklear. Everyone's attempting to prove they're worth a damn on a team that could go Yahoo! on its workforce this offseason.
Yahoo! Football!
Sea - HAWKS!
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Problem, as I see it, is that Seattle doesn't have any receiver who can do that.
It’s the official’s prerogative how tight they call that, but while Holt will capitalize, I don’t see Branch or Engram being able to.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
That was grammar school
and wow does Willis suck on that play.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know
who could foresee gut blitzes. That’s unprecedented.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't it appear that we have this same problem..
Every single freaking time we play the Rams in St. Louis?
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
This was the exact same stuff the Rams did last year in St.Louis
and it confused the Hawks last year as well…sigh.
At some point we'll institute a shotgun
That will be a terrific day.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Womack looked pretty clueless on that one
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
yummy
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Or maybe not
If it holds up on review.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Well it's not like he was doing anything else.
Hey look a football.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
He would of went out at the 1
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Strategy
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't burn Clock
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Damn Scruffy
did you play quarterback at San Diego State?
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Nope
Witicha St
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
nope
Its a Art School in the Mountains
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Great Football Program though
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Ways to beat the inside blitz:
Quick hitting passing plays
Tosses to the outside
WR, HB, TE, or FB screens
and, oh yeah…
2 Back shotgun
So I had to drive back to Bham from Seattle last night
By the time I got to stanwood it was starting to stick. From Burlington on I saw 25 cars in the ditch or off the road.
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
Including a Semi
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
STUFF!
mornin’, boys.
How much snow you got down there? We got a few inches up here in Victoria.
I have about 8
but its all ice now
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Why did Forsett catch that?
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He's been taking lessons from Brian Russell
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Because he's awesome.
Now, can we get through this next drive without a turnover? I’m thinking…maybe.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Or not!
Thanks Carlson!
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
TVants link
tvants://list.tvants.com/tvants/?k=125dd502a07950ccf7a6cd5574fd983c
doesn't work
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
what kind of error are you getting...
do you have tvants installed?
no
I just tried to follow the link. let me see about installing it
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
meh
It’s only for windows
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I'd like to give Seneca credit for standing in the face of the pass rush
But I don’t think he saw that guy at all
You would think that would be total news to Holmgren
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Yep. He's developed
Didn’t know punters did that.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
And with our special teams, "pretty solid" is damned good.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Hey look Ryan didn't punt a touchback.
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One quarter in the books...
Holmgren furiously looks through his playbook to discover plays that can beat all-out blitzes. So far, no success.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions
It's in the back of the book
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
are we over the scripted plays yet?
Because I’d like to move the ball a bit.
So much for our offensive line improvement
Wrotto is the only fella who it appears hasn’t made a glaring error yet.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
you think they've given up?
I’ll be highly irritated to lose to Josh Brown.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
I think Buffalo gut blitzed Seattle and the rest is history
And the D is just beaten to crap from overuse.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
LOL where'd you get that?
The guy in that is clearly Michael Bolton from Office Space.
Just found it on Google
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Holt
Of course, Jennings just got abused, so…
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Why wouldn't we just match up Trufant with Holt all day?
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Why?
Why not just tell Trufant “You follow #81”. I don’t understand why they have to just play sides of the field.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Cause when they switch to Zone
its easier
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Haven't the Hawks been terrible at Zone coverage the last three years?
I wouldn’t mind sticking with Man.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
John Marshall is bad at his job.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Apparently it's more difficult to switch sides of the field than we'd think
All of your footwork and hipwork (?) is reversed.
I hate Richie Incognito.
/preaching to the choir
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I hate Torry Holt.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
Uh Vasgersian? It's not a 1st down unless they pass the first down line.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Brian Russell vs Steven Jackson 1 on 1
is not a matchup I wanted to see
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Marc Bulger is catching passes against us now?
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Marc Bulger for WR
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Embarrassing.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
and for the 59th time....
…one of our blitzes walks by a QB with the mobility of a small-sized planet.
So...
do you think anyone from this defense is going to be back next year?
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Brian Russell
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Scruffy, really.
Of course Russell will be back! With his fiery veteran leadership-osity and penchant for the late but important hits, we would be lost if he left
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure they're all be cut
Rumor has it Ruskell is petitioning the NFL to hold an expansion draft next year so we can just start from scratch.
Didn't they start this drive at like their own 5?
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
This hurts more than I would have thought.
Kind of an off subject rant, but…I just don’t get why everyone on KJR and all over the area wants Holmgren to come back next year…Holmgren was once a great coach, but I can’t help but put much of the blame for this season on Holmgren’s lack of imagination and playcalling prowess.
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Agreed
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
I still like Holmgren as a had coach
Just wish he wasn’t calling the plays anymore, but yeah I’m with you.
"Look at the bad angle that Russell takes on him"
No one who works for the Seahawks notices this?
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At least the D will get a breather
after that 8 minute drive. Damn.
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
They're gonna be tired for the entire rest of the game now.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Holy shit the Bengals are up 17-0
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Yeah, glad I have the Skins' D on my fantasy team. =(
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
We've got a few LL guys here, and this game sucks
Someone please tell me why I shouldn’t be hoping for Zoidberg to get Marcus Thames. I love the guy.
No No No
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I think we could find beter
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
.256/.325/.528 career vs. LHP
Seems like a decent 1B platoon option to me.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Thames might be a better half platoon than Chris Shelton...
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I am really worried that JJ may not be back next year
What is with Holmgren’s treatment of him?
We like to pay people for sitting.
Ahem Coutu
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Oh Jesus Fuck Seneca TAKE A FUCKING STEP UP IN THE MOTHERFUCKING POCKET YOU FUCKING RETARD
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What was the point of playaction there?
just to make it impossible for JJ to block the blitzer?
Holmgren looks like he didn't expect them to Blitz.
Like he looked disappointed in himself. How could he be looking for anything else right now?
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An all-out blitz? Lost fumble?
Gee, didn’t see that coming.
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Is there any reason why the Seahawks don't make adjustments to the other team's schemes?
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If it was good enough for George Halas, it's good enough for us, dammit.
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Which is why it's a good thing he's going.
A
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
But his way of staying with the gameplan even though it means his QB will be crushed on almost every snap
simply does not make sense.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
He thinks that if you line up and execute your assignment
that it doesn’t matter what the other team does. This doesn’t work well when you have 0/5 starters on your offensive line.
And when you know, execution doesn't matter and their scheme beats your scheme.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Oh for fucks sake.
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YAY! Wasted time out!
We are so bad at everything concerning football.
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This is going to be one of those Hawks games
that I will torrent tomorrow and be unable to bring myself to watch.
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
I don't torrent losses.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I have to have something to watch during the spring and summer.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
This game is fun to watch
Two turnovers in a row jesus.
At least Carlson broke a couple record for the Hawks. Check it out… www.nextseasonsports.com
by seahawks19and0 on Dec 14, 2008 11:16 AM PST reply actions
Hasselbeck is inactive right?
Why is he even in pads?
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I agree you on the whole "low point of the season" comment
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Definitely
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, a blitz resulting into a sack
“There has to be a play in there somewhere”
These announcers are owning the Hawks coaching staff right now.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions
It's some gadgety play called a Shotgun.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Why do that?
We can run five step drops and play-action!
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
At least someone is.
It seems like everyone bites their tongue when talking about our coaching out of respect for Walrus.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
He may be a legend, and I respect everything he's done for this organization
But he’s just not the guy he used to be…he deserves the criticism now.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I agree.
If he can’t see that everyone has had his ticket for the past two years, then maybe he shouldn’t be coaching. It surprises me that other teams will still be lining up to court him after this season.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Play Cover-2 defense and blitz up the middle
It hasn’t been rocket science to defense us recently.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
It's pretty bad that something that simple is the gameplan to beat us.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
A shotgun?!
Then Seneca just runs right at the Blitzers.
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That is the most annoying thing about playing on Live.
I want to play realistic football and that shit is hella retarded.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
The last time I played Madden on Live is the last time I will play Madden on Live.
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They really need to make 30 yard Rollouts not work.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I played some dude who only played as the Patriots (which is lazy in and of itself) and spent the whole throwing 50-yard bombs to Moss.
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^whole game
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
Players on XBox live make football not fun.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I would claim the most annoying thing on Madden are all the random graphics
It takes way too long to play a freaking game because of all the random replays.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Also, Offensive Linemen are mentally handicapped in their blocking schemes.
Kind of like today’s game.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously, they consistently miss rushers and let them run in without being touched.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think they will ever get that AI right
Or when the opposing QB is sitting wide open in the pocket and your linebackers are just standing ten feet away, oblivious.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Good play call out of the two minute warning
Seneca… not a good starting quarterback. Please remember this Ruskell.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 AM PST reply actions
I don't think anyone thinks Seneca is starter material.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Somebody doesn't listen to KJR enough
This is not a criticism.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
If anyone but Dave Grosby says it on KJR, it's a bunch of crap.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Ian Furness and Mitch make me want to punch puppies.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I can't believe Ian Furness got Groz's job. Groz was such a beacon of hope for sports talk radio.
I hope he gets a big show on KIRO
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Im excited
to not lhaving my sports radio station be a hot or not pollster every day on my way to work in the spring.
Bringin' the outside heat.
God save me from constant promotion of text-in competitions with lame prizes being repeated for hours.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
So if we get into a 4th and 1 and don't go for it, will it be acceptable if I kill something?
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Senecs is running for his life now.
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Hey, Seneca had time to step up.
Baby steps.
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He's had time on a few other plays and just didn't.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
True, but stepping up is better than taking the Sack.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Help us, Charlie Frye. You're our only hope--
Wait, Frye is our only hope? Aw, shit.
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Note for the second half to Holmgren...
They are blitzing Otagwe or Craft on every play. Please account for that.
Or yell obscenities into your headset while covering your mouth with your playbook. Whatever.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:30 AM PST reply actions
I think he'll do the second. But he won't yell them in any animated fashion. He'll just scrunch his face so he looks angry and say them in a normal tone of voice.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Here's a radical idea:
Run some draws and screen plays. Keep JJ back for pass protection.
Or, you could just continue running five-step drops and look confused on the sidelines.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
I can't believe someone as legendary as Mike Holmgren can stand on the sidelines looking confused and dumbfounded at the Rams' scheme.
I mean…come on Mike. Every team this whole damn year has been running this scheme against you, since freaking Buffalo.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
So does anyone else think the local media is being retarded for harping on Ruskell and trying to say that he's the reason this organization is bad for "forcing Holmgren out"?
I mean..it’s not like Ruskell basically built the 2005 Super Bowl defense…
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I just don't get it, but especially the radio seems to think that Ruskell is the bad guy and if we'd let Holmgren stay the GM and continue coaching, we'd be winning now.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
There are other things to talk about.
Jack Zduriencik’s front office moves, the Putz trade (which was good), Mora’s challenges taking over the team, I don’t know, lots of things. Making up a story about bringing Holmgren back isn’t just sloppy, it’s garbage.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, the biggest story is the one they're not talking about
and that’s what’s going to happen with the coaching staff when Holmy leaves.
STILL no real word on who’s going to run the O and D of this team next year.
a bunch of morons
anyone who’s looked at Holmgren’s draft record as GM should know better.
I love how some of the idiots that comment on Seahawks Insider want Holmgren back as the GM
Seahawks Insider has to have the worst group of commenters in the history of blogs.
I always think the local media is "short bus".
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I just don't understand how someone with such poor knowledge of their field (in this case football) can get a job covering it.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Fantasy Playoffs!
Is the Mr. Team owner here? Beetleborgs are blowing you up…
Bringin' the outside heat.
hey!
we’re kickin your ass! i like it!!!!!!!!!
GO RAMS!!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2008 11:44 AM PST reply actions
Why has this motherfucker not gotten the banhammer yet? He's a constant troll.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Bucs/Falcons is looking like an entertaining game.
The NFC South is just loaded this year.
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A 7-7 record is in last place.
It’s just ridiculous.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
They Blitzed 15 times in the first half?
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I want to have Carlson's babies.
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It may have been out of bounds, but damn, another fumble? Really?
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Hey John, how is Locklear looking at LT?
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I'm not watching too intently.
What I’ve seen looks good. He’s chucking the ends on run plays.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Whoa, let's not get too radical here.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
Holmgren must've just scribbled one down on a napkin during halftime.
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That would require him to have created a new play since 1987
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously John, contain yourself.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Nice "hospital" pass from Wallace
Jesus, if that’s anyone but Weaver he’s in the ambulance.
Oh jeez... and THEN he runs?
You stinky, Wallace.
Uh...
Is it just me, or did he have a wide open man on the bottom of the screen?
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Well, it's good to know that Seneca's game against the Patriots was just a one-time thing.
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Is anyone else shocked that we're only down by 7?
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Good to hear "Rock N' Roll Train" by AC/DC getting some plays.
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Are we really going to let Mare go after the season and start Coutu?
Becuase the vet’s been money.
Zombie Johnny Unitas.
2009 has been cancelled and will be replaced by a Football Mogul sim.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh. Not much else on today. Do I HAVE to watch football?
Usually there’s some kind of sweet movie on “Space” channel or something. But today, nothin’.
At least you have the hawks
I have Green Bay/Jax and Buffalo/Jets
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Dec 14, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
True.
Though he’s not showing ANYTHING as a punt returner.
He doesn't seem to have a lot of room.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
No, you're right.
But I haven’t seen him shake even one tackler.
How many times was Burly taken down by one guy? Not very many.
No.
I don’t think he’s anything special as a PR, but that’s not what he’s good at.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Catch to a wide receiver!
No way! Quick out against a blitz package!
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:05 PM PST reply actions
Run away from the blitz!
No way!
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:06 PM PST reply actions
I still like K-Rob, and think we should re-sign him for 2009
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
He'd be cheap, that's for sure.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Seneca's going to get our players killed.
Carlson x2
Weaver.
I like Mare and would like to see him return.
Decent accuracy and a huge leg on kickoffs. What more do you want from a kicker?
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions
Why did we draft Coutou again?
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Sideline eye candy
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
He stands next to Schmitt to look better.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
So does anyone else want to win this game just for pride reasons?
I know it hurts us RE: the draft….but we’ve won eight straight against them. The Rams are our bitch.
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I want to win every game we play.
Always against the Rams.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Why play off Dane Looker?
Afraid of his burning 5.5 40 speed?
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions
oh, so NOW we call offensive PI
I mean, don’t do it on a FUCKING TOUCHDOWN PASS or anything.
Asshole shitty ref’s.
He was out of bounds anyways.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions
His toes were in bounds.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
I thought his butt was out.
Wasn’t looking too intently though. Not exactly a game worth looking intently at.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, it has not been a good year for Ed Hochuli.
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Have I mentioned how much I hate playing 10 yards off every wide receiver?
Why the hell draft quick corners if you don’t let them be quick?
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions
They're criticizing the Seahawks' soft "off coverage" zones.
About time someone did it.
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(#)*$&#($&#(*&(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have TWO plays on 3rd down.
Blitz everyone, shittily.
Zone everyone, shittily.
I wasn't aware that "shittily" was a word.
I applaud the useage thought.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well, blitzing 7 on third down is stupid.
Also, our DBs suck at zone coverage and excel in man coverage. So let’s Blitz and zone our DBs!!
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently having someone other than Brian Russell deep works.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
That's exactly what I thought...
So that’s what safety help really looks like.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
And done.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
How do you not just dig your heels in at the 1st down marker on 4th and 6?
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
AGAIN
Amazing. Unbelieavable. Seneca stands in the pocket like a stone, but all Bulger has to do is shrug and our blitzers fly past.
Richie Incognito is so awesome.
I remember when he was drafted and St Louis was lauded for getting a “first round talent” later in the draft. Ha!
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:24 PM PST reply actions
You think Brown's wearing his hot pants today?
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 12:25 PM PST reply actions
I was there! :)
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
I figured we needed to go up two or three scores quick to have a chance.
After that play, I thought we had a shot.
Whoops!
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
No one has ever said "Man that's good"
After taking a sip of a Budweiser product.
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Why not drink Budweiser's canned water then?
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
So we have absolutely NO reason not to go for this.
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I'll stick with my Double Bastard thank you.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I had my double bastard cherry popped on Friday.
I think I still like Ruination better—I love pales—but Double Bastard is mighty tasty.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh, Holmgren stick to the basics.
Weaver, motioning out, then on a too-shallow in route?
So...why didn't we go for that?
We’re two and fucking eleven. Come on now. Grow a pair Holmgren.
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10 minutes left still and giving the Rams short field position seems like a death sentence
We might force overtime, we’re not coming back from two scores down
We're also not stopping them from moving the ball at all.
And this game doesn’t matter.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Indianoplis has been interesting this year
they’re just barely getting by a lot of teams, I wouldn’t be surprised if they got bounced bad in the playoffs.
Peyton's good enough that on any given Sunday he can beat anyone.
But I still don’t think they’ll be going too deep in the playoffs.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Soft zone!
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Now he's never going to call anything else.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
The man is talented as fuck.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Annnd it's coming back.
Hold on Willis?
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Oh snap
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Peyton Manning's deep ball is so beautiful.
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locklear should get that td
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
And I'm still without cable.
Have I missed anything that I should gif?
Yeah but if I were to do that
the gif would likely be about 10GB in size. Not even my super-powered 20/20 FiOS connection could deal with that.
Fios is stupid anyhow
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by tootthekazoo on Dec 14, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm, under 6 minutes in the 2nd quarter I think
probably around the 3 or 4 minute mark. Could be wrong.
Is it wrong that I want Seattle to lose?
I mean, they’ve been awful. I don’t see what winning proves.
what does losing prove?
that we want to spend more money on draft picks?
could be
isn’t the difference between 2nd and 5th a sizeable chunk of cash?
I just can't root against them
I understand wanting them to lose, but I can’t do it, I need a fucking win.
I'll be very disappointed that our run of dominance over the Rams is over.
But I know it’ll be a good thing in the long run.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
This
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
It seems like Seattle has earned a loss.
I mean, win or lose, they’ve struggled against the Rams. There’s nothing to gain. Losing this ensures Seattle has a great chance of getting the player they want. It’s like Manning or Leaf. Thomas or Levi Brown.
I'm not ready to admit it yet
but I imagine there’s going to be a part of me after this game that wants the best available talent in the draft no matter what the cost.
Agreed, im not gonna be jumping around all day because of a win
And in the long run a loss is probably better, but I still want them to win…I can’t help it.
Its the 2 minute warning
And we have time outs left. I don’t know what to believe anymore.
I have to admit it would be pretty great...
To beat the Rams and Josh Brown on a last second field goal.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions
WHY THE HELL IS HOLMGREN CALLING RUN PLAYS?
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This is a great compilation they're showing right now of our last three home games.
The “nut punch” special.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions
Wow, that was a good play call.
Who took Holmgren’s headset?
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What a great throw from Wallace!
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 1:02 PM PST reply actions
WOOO BRANCH
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well there we go, finally
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
Now it's time....
For the two-kicker trick play.
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Holy shit we did it!
The wins still feel satisfying.
I’ll probably regret this feeling of elation in June.
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Eh... we'll have a high draft pick either way.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Game over, bitches.
I hate the Rams.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 1:04 PM PST reply actions
most undramatic last-minute comeback in Seahawk history.
I was like… “yay”.
YES YES YES FUCK THE RAMS DRAFT POSITION BE DAMNED
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we won
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Lock Down!
I bet Richie Icognito did it.
bastard.
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yeah,
on the field goal try. not sure what happened. nobody saw it.
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Oh fuck everything.
Jesus Christ why didn’t we just turn the ball over?
the cart is out
they’re cutting lock’s shoe off.
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Are you listening to the radio?
They didn’t talk about that at all on the TV.
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by crushedoptimist on Dec 14, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, i'm on radio via nfl.com
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
they don't know what happened
but as soon as the kick went through, raible said that lock was down and that the trainers were running out on the field toward him.
they said it looked like more than the garden variety “getting rolled up on.” the trainers came out and apparently cut off lock’s shoe. he was able to get up and get to the cart with some help, but it didn’t look good.
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Alrighty, post game gif requests.
I’ve got a Brian Russell bad angle written down at 3-4 minutes left in the second quarter. Anything else?
Carlson was beautiful all game long
not sure if there was anything .gif worthy though. The game was ugly, sloppy and completely uninteresting.
So is this anything like the M's sweeping the A's at the end of September this year?
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In that it was nice to sweep a rival but you cost yourself in the draft?
Ya, but there was no Strasberg on the line.
Jack Zduriencik has been a god send.
I love all he’s done so far.
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by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
There's this doubt in the back of my mind
that tells me that I’m just impressed because the last guy was so damn awful. The more Jack does, the quieter that doubt becomes, though.
My response to the "why win?" question
If it ends up being Sam Bradford or bust, this was a crappy win.
If we are satisfied with a group of maybe three players who might fall to us (e.g., Bradford, Oher, Duke Robinson in a trade down) then ending the year with a win and perhaps a couple well-played losses probably matters at the margins heading into the off-season. It’s the sort of thing that could help us get a bargain basement free agent who could help us, but is looking at other teams. I suspect they won’t be beating down the doors to get to Oakland or Detroit.
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Rams outplayed Seattle
The win doesn’t change that. I don’t root against Seattle, but the Hawks won this game on the scoreboard only. I’d rather Seattle play well and get screwed.
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