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Game Thread: Jets @ Seahawks

New York Jets at Seattle Seahawks, Dec 21, 2008 1:05 PM PST


The last time Qwest was under snowfall, Shaun Alexander ran for 201 yards on a staggering 40 carries. Alexander's long run that day was 21 yards. In the slop and slip and slide of soggy, snow covered Qwest, the importance of Alexander's lost quickness was diminished while his excellent field vision, ability to read blockers and cutback savvy came to fore. Seattle rode Alexander to a victory over Green Bay and a 7-4 record.

Julius Jones has the best chance to reproduce Alexander's winter miracle, but shouldn't see too many snaps. Maurice Morris has the "hot hand". Thomas Jones shares brother Julius's gliding, patient style. He will see 20+ carries.

. . .

Advanced NFL Stats gives Seattle a 43% chance of winning today. Another way to look at that is: If Seattle and New York played an entire season at Qwest, Seattle would be expected to finish 7-9 and New York 9-7. That's a pretty even matchup.

That's where Kyle Williams comes in. The former backup at USC is not an NFL capable left tackle. On balance, he's probably a little better at left tackle than Steve Vallos is at center. For all the hype left tackles receive, you'd think this a crushing blow for Seattle. We'll soon see just how much losing blindside protection cripples an offense.

. . .

In his final home game at Qwest, Mike Holmgren will be forced into running an offense many shades from the one he envisions. The weather conditions and weaknesses and inexperience on the line will force him into more conservative packages, including, I expect, regular two tight end sets, split backs and few if any four wide receiver packages. Holmgren is 99% sure he's not retiring. Games like this example why.

. . .

Some things to watch:

Can any Seahawks receiver consistently catch the ball? Seattle's next contending team will need receivers who can play in January.

How many interceptions does Seneca Wallace throw?

Does fatigue and slipshod footing undermine Seattle's run defense?

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Reminds me of the 2006 Seahawks

I’m betting the Cards play their starters the majority of the game next week to get that 9th win.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They're getting killed

I wish this season was able to have gone better for us, because we could have totally taken the division again

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So who is your guys adopt-a-team for this seasons playoffs?

I’m going with the Falcons if they can get in.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Cotls because of Peyton Manning in the AFC

I’ll go with the Bears in the NFC if they make it.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how anyone can hate Peyton Manning

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know some annoying Pats fans that hate him

Speaking of the Patriots, holy crap they might really need the Hawks to win.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Jets because of Farve

I’m really hoping that the hawks win today

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My choice as well

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the Falcons

I’d pull for the Chargers if they make it, because holy shit that would be a comeback.

by John Morgan on Dec 21, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Titans.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Ravens became my #2 team after XL

Naturally it was hell watching them get beaten by Filthburg last weekend.

But wonderful last night when they gave Dallas’ stadium a proper send-off.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Dec 21, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Most defiantly

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha Welker got a unsportsmanlike penalty for making a snow angel

The Refs hate baby jesus

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just came here to post that

Hilarious

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate home game blackouts

Can’t watch anything else but this. Now if I had my copy of Dark Knight on Blu Ray then I would have options

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First play of 2nd half, Moss goes 76 yards on a screen.

Yikes.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a terrible terrible game

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Very, very, very

Good thing The Incredibles is on in HD on ABC Family

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is?

I’m switching

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still watching, because I'm a masochist.

Apparently the Cardinals’ defense is unfamiliar with the terms “tackle” and “pass coverage.”

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell is Warner still out there?

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 12:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He needs the practice

They’re probably gonna have to play in the cold and wind again in the playoffs. If they even make it out of the first round that is.

by ender_dace on Dec 21, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Tampa Bay

’cause that Jerramy Stevens is such a nice young man :p

by ender_dace on Dec 21, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I found a stream of the Steelers/Titans game

Finally, something resembling entertaining football.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lions down 42-7

Hope they win next week.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Brees pursuit for Marinos record is gaining legs

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

nice

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see Hawthorne.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Dec 21, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hawthorne is a ILB though

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah.

Well maybe we put enough points up so we can gives Tats a rest.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Dec 21, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really curious about his coverage ability

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Leinart just a scrambling QB

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

embarrassing

he got stripped by the weather

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow Cardinals are terrible

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 12:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone know what's up with Red Bryant?

What the extent of his injury is? I was really hoping to see a lot of him down the stretch.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 12:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just tuned in.

What the fuck? The cards are getting absolutely raped.

And how has Leinart fumbled and lost the ball TWICE in extremely limited action?

by redwolf75 on Dec 21, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Leinart has pretty atrocious accuracy on his passes.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 12:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Amusingly enough, terrible as he's been, he already has over

double the passing yards of Warner already. Tells us how horrid Warner performed…

by redwolf75 on Dec 21, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And then he puts that one right into Fitzgerald's hands

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In these tough economic times, what's the best way to show her you love her?

By buying her a new Lexus, of course.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 12:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It'll help the economy

Except you should probably buy an American piece of shit

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GO SEAHAWKS!!

Win one more for Holmgren at Qwest.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 12:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I switched over to Golf

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Decisions Decision....

Seahawks game or Jumanji on TNT or TBS or whatever…

by LantermanC on Dec 21, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow

We’ve stooped to a new level

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched them film Jumanji when I was in high school

Maple Ridge, just outside of Vancouver BC.

Robin Williams is a small guy.

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Miller?

The Fuck?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Will Herring not a big guy

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously who is Brandon Miller

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 21, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BS spot

AND HOLY SHIT FUCK YOU FAVRE.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Scraped field

Looks like it’s snowing there at the game though

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Wallace runs some more.

He had some good runs in the first half against the Pats.

by LantermanC on Dec 21, 2008 1:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I will marry her.

Holy Smokes blue Christmas outfits on cheerleaders are hot.

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol

simple minds

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Mebane!

That looked like it hurt.

by LantermanC on Dec 21, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WOO

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow

WHY ARE WE RUNNING A DRAW ON THE 10

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 2:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This game is too funny.

I’m glad the outcome doesn’t matter.

by John Morgan on Dec 21, 2008 2:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

matters to the Jets

not that they seem to care.

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

did he just say

“seahawks playing mistake free football”?

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 2:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Season's over, playing his brother Thomas.

We should give him at least 5 carries, if we don’t, we’re dicks. Give Forsett some carries too.

by LantermanC on Dec 21, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holmgren is gonna let Morris finish out the season

A parting gift to help him in free agency next season

by hawkr on Dec 21, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

Holmgren knows Ruskell most likely will not resign Mo.

by redwolf75 on Dec 21, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Carlson is a stud

Ruskell should trade the 1st round pick for a bunch of late second and third round picks, then trade up a bunch of times to get guys in early second round. He’s had much better success with those than his first rounders.

by srainier on Dec 21, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ryan continues to impress.

I can’t believe the stark contrast in his performance over the last month and before that. Great punting.

by redwolf75 on Dec 21, 2008 2:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Remarkable

A good decision by Ruskell for sure.

by John Morgan on Dec 21, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He has been good.

It sure would be nice to see that problem go away.

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rolling at the #5 slot

Oakland’s at #4 and is currently tied at halftime.

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 2:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So, does the OL (and Kyle Williams) get props for stepping up

or are the Jets laying a huge egg? Or does the Jets D suck.

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 2:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, someone hates Julius Jones

Not that Morris isn’t playing well.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 2:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

go for it damn you

:)

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 21, 2008 2:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is our makeshift O-line really looking that good...

Or are the Jets’ D-line really that bad?

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sloppy field conditions probably impact the D-Line more than any other unit

but the Jets d-line is getting old and fatigued. This has gone on for a few weeks now.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 21, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally PI

But yes, begging is as annoying as hell

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that was holding

but man, the ref really had to think about it.

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Fast game

Good to see Seattle playing well in weather.

by John Morgan on Dec 21, 2008 3:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Haha

He was begging for the flag and the ref looked him right in the face and said NO

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good grief.

The Jets have been sloppy.

by BrianL on Dec 21, 2008 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Russell was trying to get the ref to flag them for the towel on the field

Hahaha

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow

they totally missed the play clock. that was at 00 for a good second or two.

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Russell makes sure the ref sees the play clock

He does the little things…the very little.

by MFAN on Dec 21, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WOO YA

Bobby Engram! Wallace!

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 3:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice Snowman

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For sure

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WOOOO YEAH

WILSON!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

this isn’t buffalo or philadelphia… that 60k Seattle fans brave the snowstorm of the decade to come out to a meaningless game to support a coach’s last game… great stuff.

by djafrot on Dec 21, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

go for it

carpe diem, bitch!

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 3:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good Oakland

27-16 with 8 minutes left

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 3:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

4 sacks!

Where did this come from?

by nach on Dec 21, 2008 3:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

FINALLY NO CIRCUS CATCH AGAINST US!!

KELLLLY!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They had 3 timeouts and went for it on the 20?

I’m real aggressive about 4th down, but now the Hawks just kick a field goal and ice it.

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 3:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WILSON!!

He had a hell of a game today!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 21, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Game ball goes to Wilson.

Awesome day.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 21, 2008 3:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great Day!

Oakland will win too, Buffalo might win!

by Will Kier on Dec 21, 2008 3:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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