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Game Thread: Patriots @ Seahawks

New England Patriots at Seattle Seahawks, Dec 7, 2008 1:05 PM PST


-4.6%

Drafting a quarterback is scary. The chance for bust; the chance of being burdened with a must-start failure; the chance of crippling Seattle with a huge contract and no chance of contention for seasons to come - It's intimidating. It's downright terrifying. But it must be done. Seven of the top ten quarterbacks in DYAR were drafted in the first round. Fourteen of the thirty two starting quarterbacks, from phenoms like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco to competent retreads like Kerry Collins and Chad Pennington, were selected in the first round.

Still, the temptation to cheat, to find a lower risk talent through free agency ,or stashed on some stacked team's roster, remains strong. Thus, Matt Cassel.

In 2007, Tom Brady averaged a 56.9% DVOA. DVOA measures team performance more accurately than individual performance. Better said, the 2007 New England Patriots passing offense averaged 56.9% DVOA with Brady under center. That's system, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, etc. and Tom Brady.

In 2008, in the same system, with Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, etc. Matt Cassel has averaged a -4.6% DVOA. That's a 60% swing. That's the difference between Matt Ryan and JaMarcus Russell, except cleaner and more damning. Ryan joined an offense loaded with talent awaiting competent coaching and quarterbacking. Russell toils on the most tumultuous and worst run franchise in the NFL.

Brady himself likely wouldn't have continued his torrid run. Peyton Manning posted a 62.8% DVOA in 2004, but a measly 41.7% DVOA in 2005. Quarterback DVOA spikes and sinks - just not like that. That's not natural regression. That's a whole other animal.

Cassel turns 27 May 17. He didn't start at USC buried behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart. Cassel was in real danger of being cut before the 2008 season. He inflates sacks. He's shaky in the pocket. His production is hugely dependent on his surrounding talent's yards after catch. Welker's yards after catch is up over a yard from last season. Moss's yards after catch is up nearly two.

We've been here before. Derek Anderson was the vogue free agent to be after a remarkable spike in play. A season later he was benched. Cassel joined an offense that humbles him with its talent. That he's its face does not mean he's its cause or even instrumental to its success. Cassel might be a serviceable quarterback. He might be a total bust. He has almost no chance of being a great quarterback. And no team should build its future around him.

Seattle needs a quarterback of the future. And that quarterback should be, better be, a riveting, terrifying, make or break first round pick*.

Star-divide

* Or Brian Brohm.

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Holy crap

what a reversal for Philadelphia.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 11:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well Put

The recent talk about signing Matt Cassel next year makes me CRINGE. His game is entirely based on his supporting cast- Check Moss, Check Welker, if both covered throw ball in general direction of Moss. Touchdown.

And damnit the giants really piss me off…

by dlinsley on Dec 7, 2008 11:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oof, further evidence you don't trade your draft for one player

Jared Allen carted off with a knee injury. Looks like a torn ligament.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 11:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

As bad as the Seahawks are, thank GOD we're not the Bengals or Lions.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 7, 2008 11:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hawks game...

Stoogetv seems to be down. I found channelsurfing.net, but it hasn’t been too reliable. Does anyone have another way to watch our game online?

by cashless on Dec 7, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Stoogetv is down? Damn.

Yeah, anyone else have any reliable websites for the game?

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Found a forum

Click Here

There is not a link there yet, but near game time there should be. Might be sopcast, so I don’t know if I’ll get it to work either.

by cashless on Dec 7, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I looked at the games going on right now.

A lot of TVants links, but they have a complete list of links…including some media player type links.

iTrick is JustinTV, some of the other professional sounding names I think are some of the other streamers.

by cashless on Dec 7, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Justin.TV

http://www.justin.tv/addacategory

after I realized that both myp2p and channelsurfing both go through justin.tv I just decided to go straight to the source

by niko on Dec 7, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we goto the Air Croyell

GIVE ME MATT CASSELL!!

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh and I still want Kenny Phillips

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Result of three trick WR runs by Giants/Eagles.

                           CAR YDS LG
M. Manningham 1 -12 -12
D. Jackson 2 -9 -2

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually kind of excited to see Lock at LT and Wrotto starting

Inactives

K Brandon Coutu
S C.J. Wallace
LB Leroy Hill
T Na’Shan Goddard
T Walter Jones
DT Red Bryant
DE Brandon Miller
QB Matt Hasselbeck

Does Coutu even show up for the games?

by MFAN on Dec 7, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It should be interesting

Lock can tell us a bit about whether we need a LT of the future of if we have one. I always figured Locklear would be at his worse facing a 3-4 end.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching Elf

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Zooey Deschanel

is really overrated. Bug-eyed bitch scares me.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Dec 7, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No way no way, the bug eyes are what makes her so attractive.

I just watched The Happening the other day, and watched Tin Man part 1 last night.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just saw the Yes Man commercial.

STBD, you have to be crazy. She’s crazy hot.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lanterman,

stop looking directly into her eyes. She’s using them to telekinetically trick you into thinking she’s hot and force you to watch bad movies like Elf and Yes Man.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Dec 7, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Happening was pretty bad too.

She was good in Weeds season 2 though, and that show is good as well.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also my Peguin and Snowman outside got blown across the street.

But I’m to lazy to go fetch them.

And yes this is a bunch of unesscessary information

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No

Trying to get all my online Christmas shopping done in one day. Next week should be interesting.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its funny and kind of sad

but both my wifes and I companies have just been thriving.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's good

We’re stable too, but everyone I know is spooked. I’m still buying everyone something. I mean, we’re strapped, what with my wife in school and not working, but I can buy something.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Specialty Beers and wine make good gifts cheaper gifts

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Our Boss pulled us into a meeting last week because we had to let someone go last week

And it had everyone spooked but he reassured that no one has to worry it wasn’t because of the economy.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even though spending kind of helps the economy

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"kind of"?

I thought the US economy only EXISTS because of spending.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel bad for my opponent in the FG Fantasy Football league

Peyton Manning against the Bengals is just unfair.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

its not me is it?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

Youre definitley a douche

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

However

I totally <3 Westbrook

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see

Manning is worth about 52 points so far.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see

Other Mannings gotta be ~2

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Potentially

But Westbrook did well, and Im sure Kevin Faulk will have a career day

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

are you the schmitt hypermachines…

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 12:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Have fun watching the game all

I just moved so I’m still without cable.

Any word if ‘Beck and Jones are out today? I haven’t had a chance to find the inactives yet.

by BrianL on Dec 7, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent.

But holy shit the line is going to be bad.

by BrianL on Dec 7, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GO AARON RODGERS GO

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 12:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Matt Cassell Has pocket Presence

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Cassel is going to shread us like Creed

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts..

Chilling through a fantasy bye week… i didn’t draft any hawks this year and that is among the reasons why I had an amazing fantasy season. Brian Brohm for a 3rd rounder sounds good to me. Maybe Holmgren is still well connected enough with GB to help us work that before he leaves. I catch a lot of Matt Ryan because I live in Atlanta- that kid is the truth.

I hope Bradford comes out. He can thow.

by michaelfox99 on Dec 7, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I <3 Matt Ryan

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Link to watch game?

I still don’t have one. Does anyone have an online link they are using?

by cashless on Dec 7, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Woooooo!

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WTF? Things must really be bad...

Up here in Canuck-land, CBS is showing Miami/Buffalo.

Fuck me.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Double WTF.

Also no FOX game.

Sure… THIS is the Sunday I have off…

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

which is retarded

Victoria and Seattle have vastly more in common than Victoria and Toronto.

This blows.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep the super bowl loser curse alive

More XL evidence

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thank god, Weaver's getting a lot of work.

I hate when we start out awesome, and then just suck at the 30 yard line and get a FG, hopefully this isn’t one of those drives.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Zoom zoom!

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

SENECA WALLACE

Looking like he’s back in COLLEGE!!!

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Wow. So fun. Love watching the kids.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh for God's sake

Seahawks finally pull their head out of their ass… and I can’t watch it.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just wondering

Is there any benefit in winning this game?

Other than watching the Patriots lose…

by aerozeppelin on Dec 7, 2008 1:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sure

Talent. Seattle needs this team to be better than it is. Playing well is a good indication it really can bounce back next season.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

very high picks are just expensive without real proof that they are worthwhile.

Picking 6th vs 5th is probably worth it.

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'd agree with this

but I just want us to get Oher.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are ofcourse exceptions to that rule

Most of them are number 1 picks, and there doesn’t seem to be a Peyton Manning in the draft this year.

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well... we can still play well, and lose to a bette team...

I suppose Ideally the young guys who can contribute next year will play well, and guys who won’t be here next year like Russell or Wallace won’t do well and we lose by a few points.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not as good for moral

We want those young guys to play well and win.

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, Cassel has a gun.

Or at least more of one than I thought.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

His a physical Tom Brady Clone

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DAMN

I hate penalties

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Monster Hit by Peterson.

I love having him on our team.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Of course his longest of the year is against us

Although I shouldn’t be complaining since we’re actually winning.

by MFAN on Dec 7, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh nm, wrong game

(I had flipped over to dallas during commercials).

But I swear the voice over guy said that az beating the rams is a surprise.

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap!

Nice throw by Wallace, he looks like Hasselbeck circa 2005.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wallace is a SPEED DEMON

he just turned on the jets and took off. This is the most fun I’ve had watching a Seahawks game all year.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA against Meriwether as well, the guy

who the Pats drafted witht eh Branch pick.

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Steady

I’ve seen some good pull blocking and some not so great pull blocking.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

He hasn’t been tested much

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or they could substitute with Seau

Old much, New England linebackers

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For those who are not watching the game...

This was posted above.

NFL’s been cracking down so it might get shut down…but watch it while it’s on.

by cashless on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well that sucked...

Stupid BRuss along with about 3 other seahawks…

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Atkins just lowered a boom

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow...... really?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

OH COME ON

Moss getting calls…surprise face???

by MFAN on Dec 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

worst call I've ever seen.

ref’s standing right there, Moss is clearly pushing off

When is the NFL ever going to get their ass in gear and FIX THIS FUCKING REFFING PROBLEM?

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No incentive to fix it.

Controversy probably gets more ratings and more topics to talk about.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

College football has yearly debates over how bad BCS system is. But the BCS is great because it gives people (even college football newbs) something to always talk about.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Dec 7, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really know why

But I do actually want Matt Cassel

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just throws Lazers

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you want Matt Cassel

when you can have Seneca Wallace?

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Announcers really like Josh Wilson

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am beyond pissed off

this kind of shit makes me want to turn off the TV and say “screw you” NFL.

Thank God this game doesn’t mean anything.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Same.

Giving Moss calls makes no sense at all.

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

RG

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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mansfield Wrotto

4th round pick from Georgia Tech in 2007.

by MFAN on Dec 7, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

Vrabel is down too. This is getting ridiculous.

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just realized we have a completely different line than we started

the season with.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOO

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Duckett out Wide

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me

That 3rd and short play last week where we motioned Weaver and then threw to him quickly, that was sweet

by michaelfox99 on Dec 7, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

John Ryan looks like Christian

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

it's raining down there?

I’m not that far away, and it’s sunny.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Why Does Brian Russell need to run up to the line?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well when you get ruffed up by Jennings I can see why

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson's a keeper

I think he’s going to be a fan favourite for a while…

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

too much $

and YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

lol

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

aha!

i love herm edwards

by aerozeppelin on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm indifferent.

NBA or MLB, it’s best to have a high pick, NFL, not really.

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i want us to win.

I hate the pats. I hate successful teams. Its very unhealthy for obvious reasons.

by michaelfox99 on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

for the billionth time...

Will SOMEONE please teach our blitzers that when they have a free ride to the QB they have to control themselves and GET the guy?

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You'll have to wait until I get the torrent.

Jot down the time of the play and I’ll try to get it made this week.

by BrianL on Dec 7, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NFLtorrents

But they’re anal about seeding. Unless you’ve got a ton of upload bandwidth it’s not worth it.

by BrianL on Dec 7, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

John, you keep talking about the draft,

would drafting someone to replace bruss and cutting bruss not be a big improvement?

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The blitzing scares me...

Considering how adept the pats are at the screen pass

by dlinsley on Dec 7, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I want tebow to go to the Bears

he can then join their long list of bust QBs

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Orton has been alright

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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

um... run a play?

typical Holmy clock management…

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Russell Blitz

Anyone else notice CBS gave russel props for rushing the QB when in fact he whiffed like a blind madman even tho he had an open shot? Lol…

by paul2 on Dec 7, 2008 2:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BALANCE!!!

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 2:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jennings is having a nice game

Seems to have recovered. I wonder if the rib(s) were really bothering him.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 2:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Aha! that is why we are doing crap this half

The cheerleaders aren’t being very professional!

(This is a joke)

by GarethLewin on Dec 7, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

running with Jennings on your back

its doable…unless u get hit right away…LOL

by paul2 on Dec 7, 2008 3:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

'bout time for one of those

Josh Wilson long returns to flip field position to us.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

whew

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oh my god

welcome back deion

by michaelfox99 on Dec 7, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

YEAHHHH

Challenge better fail

by Ovreel on Dec 7, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

prime time prime time prime time prime time

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ex Pat

That’s not coming back!

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 3:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Weaver is a beast..

I think he might be good enough to be a full time RB… Put him on the Eagles and he puts up 75% of Westbrook numbers?

by LantermanC on Dec 7, 2008 3:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, another awesome play.

I remember he had a great game against the Rams as well. He’s shown some nice flashes, just hasn’t stayed healthy.

His size still scares me when they try to throw longer passes to him.

by Happybelly on Dec 7, 2008 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite

Was when he stripped the ball after a pick in that same game

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

YESSSSSSS WE WILL FINALLY MAKE ESPN

early part not in the backburner highlights

by GuamND on Dec 7, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

weeeeeeee

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Carlson threw a huge block on that Branch Catch

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

All those people on justintv are pissed lol

This is my favorite quote so far

“oh hi I’m the ref at the game. I don’t like the Pats so I’m going to give the Hawks as many calls as I can”

by Ovreel on Dec 7, 2008 3:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Damn, nice catch

And Cassel is standing up under pressure. Go figure.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 3:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He's definitely a product of his recievers

I feel dirty for even entertaining the idea of dumping Hasselbeck for him

by Nate Dogg on Dec 7, 2008 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

branch is awesome

and he is back (knock on wood)
and lol BRuss again….

by paul2 on Dec 7, 2008 3:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think John Marshall watches film?

Because to make the same call consistently, and consistently get burned by it seems stupid. Both passes, 3rd and long, safety blitz and big reception.

by Badical Turbo Radness on Dec 7, 2008 3:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ballsy

tru one on one on Moss?

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 3:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

TRUUUU

and great pressure

by dlinsley on Dec 7, 2008 3:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he has

but Moss only has to make one play and we lose.

Come on O. Let’s get some points

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who are thse guys?

.. and what have they done with our seahawks?

by michaelfox99 on Dec 7, 2008 3:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Haha I thought the same thing

I think the last real blocked kick came against the Redskins, I don’t remember when exactly though.

by Nate Dogg on Dec 7, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FAVORITE QUOTE FROM JUSTIN TV

“AND THE SAEHAWKS ARE LAST IN PASS DEFENCE THIS IS FIXED MAN”

by GuamND on Dec 7, 2008 3:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Another couple gems from Justintv

“lol @ the seahawks thinking they’re good when the refs just don’t call anything against them”

“THE SEAHAWKS HAVE THE WORST PASS DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE THIS IS FIXED”

by Ovreel on Dec 7, 2008 3:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

Carlson was pretty slow in the 40

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

for a guy who's slow in the 40

carlson sure runs the corner pattern well…

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's white too

So he can’t be athletic. Also, Andre Woodson is an excellent scrambler.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not certain I'd call a draw

when the center is made out of cotton candy.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but it wouldn't have been a first down.

Only reason he didn’t challenge I think.

by Happybelly on Dec 7, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He stepped out of bounds before the catch

So if Holmgren would’ve challenge and was successful I think it would of been a penalty

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that was a catch

how the ref that was further away could OVERRULE the closer ref makes no sense.

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So

Seattle is ahead and it’s late. That means there’s a good chance of a turnover.

by John Morgan on Dec 7, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The ONLY way the college game is better is in replay

the onus is on getting the play right rather than protecting against coaches strategizing. There, Holmy can’t challenge because he cannot risk losing that time out.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I haven't been watching until this point.

How’s Senaca been? His passer rating looks pretty damn good.

Mariners ----> Brewers.

by Taylor H on Dec 7, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

atkins has looked good at times

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

pretty accurate

except long which is normal

by paul2 on Dec 7, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Atkins having a day

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

John - stories of the season that shouldn't of been
  1. - Atkins should’ve been cut instead of Babin

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

thats should be number 11

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gosh, take the penalty

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOO!

Good job under pressure Cassel.

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 3:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So

Matt Cassel has the game dick in his hands…?

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 3:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Haha, NFL crackdown.

by redwolf75 on Dec 7, 2008 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

vrebel?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 3:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Weee!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Dec 7, 2008 3:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Field Goal?

Mariners ----> Brewers.

by Taylor H on Dec 7, 2008 3:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOO

Mariners ----> Brewers.

by Taylor H on Dec 7, 2008 3:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow, welker on the out pattern

big fuckin surprise… do we have any coaching?

by djafrot on Dec 7, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hmm.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

COME ON SEAHAWKS!!!!

Winner of All Movie Quote Challenges

by DolfinPhan on Dec 7, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Me too!

Go Seahawks!

Winner of All Movie Quote Challenges

by DolfinPhan on Dec 7, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We have a vested interest

in watching you guys win this game!

Winner of All Movie Quote Challenges

by DolfinPhan on Dec 7, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Weird

Ive gotten used to the hawks throwin a pick on the 1st play of that drive this year

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

you get a fumble this time

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Vallos sucks

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Typical.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Dec 7, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

fuck that

And fuck you Vallos

by MFAN on Dec 7, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This team has lost almost every game

by getting its ass handed to it in the coaching department. It’s pissing me off. Fuck this.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Dec 7, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

couldn't call a TO

not sure what you could do except have a better offensive line. that isn’t coaching.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not specifically referring to the last play.

More referring to the achingly predictable last Patriots TD drive with multiple idiotic blitzes.

But yes, seeing two to three plays a game where our QB can’t get two steps into his drop before he has to fall down and take a sack is a painfully obvious reminder that our offensive play calling isn’t “unpredictable”.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what....

ahh shit…

Winner of All Movie Quote Challenges

by DolfinPhan on Dec 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow

why did I stop watching Elf?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

have it on DVD

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well... thanks for the try....

Winner of All Movie Quote Challenges

by DolfinPhan on Dec 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Matt Cassel 09!

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think they'll mail the rest in

this was a heartbreaker. They’re gon’ fishin’ today.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

they didn't deserve it

but we lost, with little lost for us…

by paul2 on Dec 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yea

Mad props to bellicheck for doing it with some injuries…….?

Bringin' the outside heat.

by FizzleDrip on Dec 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

both teams pretty beat up

this game was about executing and making plays at the right time. Seattle played with better efficiency, but NE ran a LOT more plays.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

.....................................

We Should get paid to watch this shit

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2008 4:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tell me about it...

my favorite teams are the Seahawks, Mets, Knicks, and the Missouri Tigers. The 2009 seasons can’t get here fast enough.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 7, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh...

At least your not a fan of the Sonics, Mariners or Huskies.

by AtomicGarden on Dec 7, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I was entertained for 3 hours

by MFAN on Dec 7, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good game, very entertaining

I was on the edge of my seat for 3 hours. I think Seattle has more than people give them credit for.

Blogger at SBNation's New England Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Dec 7, 2008 4:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a big fan of spencer

but i think we need to make a serious investment in a backup either through FA or the draft. Vallos was really depressing today.

by dlinsley on Dec 7, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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