Live Blog NFL Draft III
5:53
And that about concludes the first day.
On first look, I'd give Seattle a solid "B". Trading down and still getting the player they want was huge. The more I think about Jackson, the more I think he's a straight "A" pick at 28. In 5 years, I think people will be talking about how this guy never stopped dominating at every stop in his career. Carlson is a little iffier. Obviously, he was above and beyond the top tight end on my board, but I wasn't sure I wanted Seattle to take a TE in the first day and adding in a 3rd round pick makes Carlson very expensive. The kid will contribute, though. He's a lock to be good, a lock to be a complete tight end, and the tightness and fluidity of his route running cannot be understated. At Notre Dame he was facing a lot of DBs because of the overall weakness of their offense. In the NFL, he's going to humiliate some linebackers. Quite a few, in fact. I also think this is a concession to Holmgren. Big Mike is retiring and it's about damn time he gets his tight end.
Here's your best remaining value in semi-order.
Anthony Collins Huge value here. One of the few true left tackles in this draft. Better upside than almost anyone. The perfect pick to stash and develop. I want Seattle to get this guy.
Early Doucet: Killed in my % per attempt and YPA metrics. Solid contributor in venerable defensive conference. Low downside. Good fit for Seattle. Great support skills: blocking, returning.
Andre Fluellen: Highly rated prospect due for a bounce back. Great value. A natural 3.
I'm going to go get some real beer, watch some 4th season Sopranos and pretend today's my birthday. I'll check in later. Thanks everyone, we've long since surpassed 10,000 views. That's pretty damn cool. This has been a really active and respectful thread and that alone is better than 100,000 views. You guys rock.
5:37
With Dexter Jackson, along with every other WR in the draft, being selected in the second, I think Early Doucet will be available in third. He's worth trading down for. Watch out for Andre Fluellen, too. I think Seattle could be very interested in him.
5:29
Those wondering why Green Bay drafted Brohm and now has two Qbs might want to look at their pass blocking. They didn't allow many sacks, but Brett Favre + McCarthy's system masked a true weakness. Now, some might say they should take a tackle, but that's retrograde thinking. The Pack can now just sub in whoever's healthy.
Wait, WHAT?
5:19
People pretty new to this frenzy should take note how the draft has played out in comparison to your garden variety Mock. Across the multitude you see a good level of agreement, yet they're way off compared to reality. Moral: 99.9% of Mock Drafts are nothing more than fantasy.
5:04
We're winding down the first day. Seattle has picked up some big talent, but it's important to consider the big picture. No one will look at Seattle as one of the big winners of day one. But they've added two starters. This was a very good team last season, and its biggest weakness, BY FAR, the running game, was revamped fairly cheaply in free agency. Ignore the flash and look at the facts and you'll see a very good team that has had one of the best overall offseasons in the NFL.
2:59
That's working the phones. Lets see what Seattle got for moving a few spots. Nevertheless, glad to see them acquire a few picks
28th pick, we know, 5th and 7th. Very nice.
3:15
Lawrence Jackson
Very good pick here. Obviously, Seattle needed depth behind Kerney. Seattle prefers strong, balanced defensive ends.
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From Sando's article:
“Seattle received the 28th overall choice, plus the 163rd pick and the 235th pick.”
They might as well just say
“Nobody really cares about the Seahawks, so let’s break for commercial”
agreed
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Here listen to this shitty grunge music no one here listens to while we talk about San Diego until we switch you to a commercial
NFLN did the same thing
The only analysis they’ve given us is “Dustin Keller”
My reasoning for Hardy (pick #19 in the mock)
I pondered whether or not I should go defense here. But, Seattle has lost DJ Hackett and Deion Branch suffered a devastating knee injury. Bobby Engram is getting old, so it’s time to bring in a new set of receivers for Seattle.
Hardy may not be fast (4.51 40), but he has massive hands and I don’t see him dropping many passes, something that has plagued the Seahawks for years. James also has a 42 inch vertical leap and since he is 6’7, I think that will help with jump balls. He has good upper body strength, and should be a powerful receiver for Matt Hasselbeck.
In 2008, I wouldn’t mind seeing Hardy, Burleson, Obumanu and Engram as the four WR set.
See ya Shaun.
Could be an interesting TE
I could see Hardy putting on a few more pounds and moving inside, can’t you?
Ruskell take note: Trading down again
would work well for my schedule. Need to head down to watch a hockey game with some friends. Should be able to get there in time for a 2nd round pick.
My dream move
Trade down for some extra picks, still be able to grab Keller, but in the early second.
they don't cover the seahawks
becuase Mel has no clue who Ruskell likes
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
I am fine with that
what happened to Merling tho?
LJ
I like the pick actually. Not a ton of pass rush, but plays the run well. A better version of Phillip Daniels.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
perfect compliment to Tapp
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No to Manningham
Arrington would be available in the later rounds
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Repeat after me
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
who?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions
I blame Coach Owens
for being a person that deified his parents attempt at an abortion
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you really know that we could of got him later?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
why does this happen?
this comment was suppose to go somewhere else
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
USC runs our defense
so we know the learning curve won’t be steep. Also, this was Rang’s pick for us at 25.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I've said "who?" for every first pick we've made in the Ruskell era
and most of the 2nd round picks. I trust Ruskell.
Maybe I… Truskell.
So guys, don't flip out on this pick.
John named a bunch of guys that didn’t get picked last year. Don’t worry so much about this.
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exactly...
I saw a lot of Clemson and Merling disappears a bit. I think his upside is exaggerated a bit. Jackson is a great fit for us.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
It would've been dumb to take a TE there
But with everyone that fell to us…why LJ?
HAHAHAHA!!!
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
Lauren Jackson
Center, Seattle Storm.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
It's not so much Jackson I don't like
It’s just that I remember looking out at the offense at one point last year and being stunned at the lack of playmakers. That offense got old in a hurry, and it’s only getting older. This doesn’t help AT ALL. We added to a strength with this pick, and I don’t think that’s a good thing.
Who on Offense at that pick should we add?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Chad Johnson or Boldin
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I was really hoping Mendenhall would fall to 25
I really would have liked to see them take a chance on the WR from MSU. That guy could develop into a playmaker. But again, Ruskell loves safe picks that are unlikely to bust. This guy falls into that category, obviously. He just can’t buy into even a 10 percent chance that a guy will bust, and the MSU kid only had one good year. Same with Malcolm Kelly.
I’m perfectly happy they didn’t take a TE, though. For reference on that one, check out some guy named Boss in NY.
So you're saying DeSean Jackson?
Or is there another playmaker you were thinking of that we passed over?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
hrmmm...
I trust ruskel he is a man who seems to know what he is doing
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
here's what chris landry had to say about jackson
“productive, smart player in mark anderson mold, keys and diagnoses very well”
Why are people saying who?
Lawrence Jackson played at fucking USC, he’s not exactly a nobody.
Obviously I’m biased but I love LoJack.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
An all-american nobody
if memory serves. The kid’s a player.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Plenty of All Americans
don’t do anything in the NFL. I trust Ruskell, but it doesn’t make this any less shocking.
Not so sure...
This is about where I saw him coming off boards.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
This is another classic Ruskell pick Jackson is undersized
The Good: Jackson is a mobile, strong athlete who uses his strength to battle bigger tackles. He combines good technique, power and quickness with a relentless attitude to pressure the passer effectively. He has been effective in run support despite marginal size.
The Bad: Lacks the burst of speed needed to be an elite edge rusher. Gets caught up with blockers at times and gets "washed out" of too many plays to his side. He can struggle facing double-team blocks. Lacks ideal size.
Outlook: His size is a concern, but his quickness and strength more than compensate for that factor. He can play either side at end. He’s a probable second-round pick, with clubs such as the Titans, Bengals, Eagles and Bucs interested.
He's 270+
I don’t think his size is an issue. 4-3 ends don’t get much bigger. I don’t think Strahan plays at much more if any more.
I see Jackson as a better version of Phillip Daniels and a do-everything end and the kid from Va Tech as a specialist.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
The only thing is I'm sure we could have traded down
And got Jackson in the top 10 picks of the 2nd round
I fucking hate you Mariners
Not everyone is so willing to trade down
Perhaps it just wasn’t there. I’ll give Ruskell the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Well, that was somewhat anti-climactic
I fucking hate you Mariners
I just mean all the excitement leading up..and trading down
and then it was like…ohh
I fucking hate you Mariners
Question
Have we ever traded up? Or am I thinking that we dont ever go for someone….effin M’s making me hate front offices.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
This could turn out just like another "undersized" USC player - Tatupu
Mel Kiper didnt like that one either. Thats why he is a douche bag
I didnt put a value on "how" good he is
Are you saying he isnt a good player? Hes the top TE in the draft, hes going to contribute to an NFL team.
Damnit....this is getting boring. I woke up this morning thinking it was Christmas
turns out I am a Jehovahs Witness today.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
We could have got him in the second
I, for one, am really pissed off. We’re probably the only team to rate this guy higher than merling, campbell and groves. we could have sat in the second and taken him, and got desean jackson or trevor laws
How do you really know that we could of got him later?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Bavasi running this draft?
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Reactions?
You can post whatever you want there bud.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Just cause you want a RB
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I want a 7 foot RB with 4.3 speed!!
I fucking hate you Mariners
I do. I dont like JuJo or Duckett.
I want a home run hitter. I don’t like it that we like being safe…...I like taking chances.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
It shows in your golf game
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I own you in golf.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Washington
Anyone think he’s a stretch for the 2nd round. Grabbing another USC player?
One other thing to remember
Ruskell said they would be drafting the famed “best player available.” That means they think Lawrence Jackson was the best player available. Hmmmmm …
Yeah, the Seahawks have guys who spend the entire season scouting college players.
This isn’t some random selection. They definitely had him ranked above those players or they would have selected them.
He also mentioned
that the defensive line should be revamped every year. So it really shouldn’t come as a surprise
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Fred Davis
going to be around for the Seahawks next pick
why wouldn't a team w/o a legit
te be interested
not taking fred davis (mackay award member)
w/o viable te option
=
stupid move
almost as dumb as
calling a winner
a member
Taking a TE in the first round
is a stupid move this year.
If not
Carlson or Bennet will, you have to think at this stage some wideouts with great value will be as well
TE
carlson will probably be the pick if hes there, I don’t know if he’s not. could be bennet who looks like he has a lot of ptential
If Hardy fell that far, I would love him.
Can you imagine how Holmgren could move him around, both inside and outside, to exploit matchups? That is a guy who is still getting better—he’s only focused on football for a couple of years.
There goes Phillips
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
Scruffy
call me if something good happens….I cant watch this anymore.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Ingnore him
he is just cranky because he wanted a new shiny sexy RB
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm talking about christian by the way
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
I enjoy open Field tackling
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it only 7 minutes per pick for the 2nd round? or did I make that up?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Remember how we didn't even have a 1st round pick last year?
And then picked up Josh Wilson and Brandon Mebane?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
Ruskell was just on ESPN News.
It took 2 minutes to find the channel and only caught the last 30 secods of blah blah blah. Anyone else see the interview?
Good thing the rest of our division is pretty poorly managed
Man I love having Ruskell
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions
The fact of the matter is
that the draft played out perfectly for us, until we picked. Everyone that we have collectively dreamed of for the last few months, laws, jackson, phillips, were all available. We chose to reach for a player in a spot that isn’t as high a need as SS,DT, or WR, positions in which there was great value. We need a receiver in the second
Which draft pick does Scouts Inc have?
Who was the last defensive bust that Ruskell drafted?
I can appreciate your defense of Ruskell
but Jackson was a bit of a reach. Not that he won’t be good, not that I don’t trust Ruskell, but that was a really surprising move.
It isnt much of a defense.
Nearly ALL mock drafts had us taking Dustin Keller or Kentwaan Balmer.
Neither of those, as everyone here seems to think, would have been a good choice.
Donnie Avery is the first off the board?
He was a guy going in the 2nd/3rd round in mock drafts b/c the good WRs were gone.
If these websites had such great scouts they would be working for NFL teams..
They rank plaeyrs like Johnathan Sullivan high, then they bust.
Just withhold judgement until the players play
Jordy Nelson had a crazy year last year
I like him better than Avery…
Where does DeSean Jackson go now?
ya
nothin wrong with improving the pass rush. i dunno if merling/campbell were better prospects or not, but I’m sure there must have been obvious positives in Jackson’s game that would have made the Hawks FO decide on him.
Let's go.
Only way to catch lightning in a bottle
Is to throw the bottle at the lightning
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
From what I'm reading Jackson is more of the sure thing
Merling Campbell and the like are better prospects, but Jackson will be able to contribute now and not 2-3 years from now.
Yeah.. Campbell had less sacks and a worse workout than Jackson in a worse conference.
Not sure what all the hype is about. He was ranked #15 by most places and dropped to the 2nd round..
you guys defending lawrence jackson are missing the point
he may or may not be a better player that is irrelevant
the point is, he was low on other teams radar and could have been gotten later for less
We don't know that for sure
People raked us over coals for trading up for Tatupu when other teams have said that they would’ve taken him if we hadn’t done so.
You have no idea that is true since you are judging it based on Scout.com, ScoutsINC etc
You have no access to “teams radars”
By that same evaluation method Jordy Nelson could have been had WAY later than GB took him. I highly doubt that is the case.
It's hard to say where he is on other teams radar
and it’s certain he wouldn’t have been around for the Hawks next pick. It’s a very surprising pick, but it’s not a bad pick.
Actually DE was a priority
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen we have a inside source
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
you need to allow that Ruskell might know this better than you.
well according to you
no one knows anything because none of us really have any insider information. you can get hung up over our lack of insider information or just consider it for what it is.. an opinion, and recognize you have one as well, which is likewise based on what little true information you really know. you don’t have to point out that each individual person really doesn’t know much… we already know that, and it’s true about you too.
we had picks to deal
the Hawks liked him, they moved up a little to get him. It’s not like we traded our next years 1st round pick for him.
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noooooooooooooooo!
well hopefully this works out better than Rick Meier
hmm..not sure about trading up for Carlson
but we add some extra picks to deal from Dallas, I like the move.
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Ruskell can't win them all
Its not horrid..but just head-scratching
I fucking hate you Mariners
Thats too much in my opinion.
Is Carlson THAT much better than Davisat 55 and whoever we could have had in the third?
there goes our 3rd round
I can’t see into the future, but even if he was taken bennett or davis would have been there. both are at least as talented as carlson
OK this was stupid
That 3rd round pick is way to valuable to just give away like that. Bad move Ruskell
Trust Ruskell
He’s never hurt us before
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by BrettJMiller on Apr 26, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate first day TE picks anyway
I am fuming. I am trying to trust him on this one, but I can’t bring myself to it.
I want to trust Ruskell
but I don’t know about giving up that third round pick.
ya i agree,
i think maybe we haven’t really realized how important a good TE is for us. It seems like such a small position, but in the WCO i think it can really pay dividends.
i’d rather have this happen then have used our 1st on any other TE
Let's go.
2nd and 3rd is a bit much
but they could still get another pick in a trade, plus we added a 5th and another 7th.
Carlson is good.
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4.9 40 yard dash?
I run faster than that, c’mon, what a slow as balls TE… hopfully he’s a great route runner, blocker, and catches everything
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
He was getting over a really bad illness
when he ran that 40. His personal work out was much better if I remember right.
ok good
Why the hell did ESPN say 4.9 though, fucking retards, if they can’t get their info right, what good are they? Certainly not for professional commentating. I wish they had some competition in the sports reporting world.
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
That's what he ran at the combine
So that’s his ‘official’ 40 time
yeah, its sloppy.
As if his 40 he ran in his personal workout for all the NFL teams isnt as legit, just because they werent invited to it..
I dont think they do.
But if youre all highly touting them, then you should be super excited about this pick
I know you want to just be super negative all the time, but we are getting good players
and believe it or not, I have more faith in our GM and Scouts than the Seahawks blogging community and a handful of “scouts” who work for websites.
lol there's no basis to claiming i'm a generally negative person
it’s your duty as a sports fan to question your franchise’s decisions. don’t be such a Ruskell-tory!
If you just blindly support it you're not much of a fan..
Loyal to the core but of course you’ve gotta question them. Look at what not questioning our officials got us with Bush & this war. Not good.
he's just playing both sides
I use rankings or statistics, he bashes them as being off base, then he turns around and uses them. It doesn’t really matter it’s just.. funny.
all we really gave up was a 3rd round pick
we still picked in round 2, so we didn’t really lose that pick.
A 3rd rounder is very valuable, but it’s not the end of the world. Carlson is probably the best TE in the class and is ready to contribute.
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Thats true.
It would be ideal if we could get into the third round somehow. Maybe Mo Morris and a 5th rounder? I have no idea
We're getting serviceable players.
I’m not normally this negative, and i hate that I am. But I really think that we made two huge reaches, and with needs at WR, DT, and DB I dont see the sense in dropping a 3rd to get a TE that won’t automatically stretch the field
There are so many decent WR left
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I know they do
But with Hackett gone, a big injury hanging over Branch, and Engram turning 35 it should be a consideration in the TE we take
The Bears didn't pounce on Brohm?
Or Henne? They fell right in their lap!
New Orleans would of Drafted Carlson
Carlson wouldn’t of been there because NO would of taken them since they apparantly couldn’t get the Shockey deal done.
Poor Brohm
No one’s called him. The Rams at least called Henne.
Steelers grab Sweed. Nice pick. Miller, Sweed, their 1st round WR from last year
Mendenhall. Nice offense. Just need some OL help
Steelers having a very nice draft
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Brohm or Henne will be a dolphin
I’m still holding out small hope that we somehow get Brohm.
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Man, I wish
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Do these morons really like Pizza Hut pasta? Really?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
I tried the chicken stuff
It’s good…..if you like eating pure salt
I can't imagine a world where Pizza Hut makes good pasta
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Are the Titans ever going to get VY some receiving help?
First they reach on Chris Johnson, now a DE in round 2. Come on. Your defense isnt the problem….
haha
just reading the thread. Remember how we said last year we all went “WHO?” when they drafted Wilson and that it wouldn’t happen this year because of all the awesome work John did on the draft (which is 100% true).
Well everyones first reaction to Jackson was “WHO”....just found that kinda funny.
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Its to be expected, somewhat when peoples every day jobs are spent looking at these guys
and seeing things other people might miss.
Was funny though. :)
I think Ruskell...
Enjoys picking someone that no one around has heard anything about and then laughs at our reaction. Jerk.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like a bonehead for missing Jackson.
It’s pretty damn obvious, actually. I just never invested much time into DEs.
Damn it, JM!
I expect you to give me sterling analysis on every potential player the Seahawks might pick and I expect it for free!
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
What does that say about Aaron Rodgers?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that's a pretty big middle finger to Rodgers
does just them great depth if anything happens.
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Aww, Brohmy
Aaron Rodgers is NOT smiling right now
So you're saying the Mariners will sign him?
I fucking hate you Mariners
To tell the truth, I'd rather have Brohm.
as our 2nd pick (and still have our 3rd) than Carlson. That way we could’ve taken a player like stevens in the 3rd and still be set.
I think we'd all like to have a real backup QB
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
For a couple games here and there, not too much
As a long term solution, I can’t imagine us wanting to move forward with him. We have a couple year window to grab someone to sit behind Hass and learn. Maybe they like Charlie Frye more than I do.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
QBs an important enough position that I would argue you can't have too many
Think Cleveland. They dumped Frye, found that Derek Anderson played “well”, and still have Brady Quinn.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The money issue is definitely present
If you’re rebuilding though, I still think it’s worth it. Trade later if you have to. Sometimes it takes so long to find that franchise QB, I’d take as many opportunities as possible to get them. (didn’t think you were down on the pick, ASUBoyd, I was actually agreeing with you)
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
stating the obvious, but Ruskell and CO. had Carlson as their top rated TE
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/seahawks/2008/04/26/president_tim_r_1/
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not too surprising
I think they may have ranked him as a better blocker then JM. Not having done the film work myself, I don’t know what they may have seen.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping for...
RB, QB, OT
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I won't be surprised with just about anything
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Holmgren said they will not take a RB, so i would be surprised if they do.
I guarantee they will take a LB though.
That seems to be a Ruskell staple
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Dallas just replaced Anthony Fasano
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
Nice
Lawrence Jackson wore 96 at USC. I can repurpose my old Wistrom jersey.
he dominated us at ASU this year. Thanksgiving, big game for Pac-10 title
he had 3 sacks or something
so yeah, vintage Tim Ruskell on day 1
surprising us all with the Jackson pick (Which I absolutely love) and then making the most obvious hawks pick with Carlson (the guy was born to wear to hawks blue).
nice start to the draft.
FREE JEREMY REED!!
DARIUS REYNAUD!!!
A perfect fit for our offense, check this guy out and imagine him slashing up the NFC West… YAC!
My predictions for tomorrow
Uhh well, I have no idea. They could go any combination of OL, WR, SS, DT, or QB with the remaining four picks, IMO. It just depends how Ruskell ranks the value of the upgrade at each position at any given time.
At some point I expect they will deal Morris tomorrow to move up or garner extra picks.
Personally
I think he’ll save LB for next year since there are many unaddressed positions left for this years draft, and we won’t need to worry about replacing Peterson/Hill until 09, and we are obviously making a run for it this year with Holmgren, as the Carlson pick definitely indicates a short-term plan for success.
Am I the only up at 7 for this??
actually I think the espn guys are still asleep.
FREE JEREMY REED!!
Yawn
That piece on Manningham makes me wonder if he will be drafted at all by a team that will give him any sort of cash..
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

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