Live Blog NFL Draft III
5:53
And that about concludes the first day.
On first look, I'd give Seattle a solid "B". Trading down and still getting the player they want was huge. The more I think about Jackson, the more I think he's a straight "A" pick at 28. In 5 years, I think people will be talking about how this guy never stopped dominating at every stop in his career. Carlson is a little iffier. Obviously, he was above and beyond the top tight end on my board, but I wasn't sure I wanted Seattle to take a TE in the first day and adding in a 3rd round pick makes Carlson very expensive. The kid will contribute, though. He's a lock to be good, a lock to be a complete tight end, and the tightness and fluidity of his route running cannot be understated. At Notre Dame he was facing a lot of DBs because of the overall weakness of their offense. In the NFL, he's going to humiliate some linebackers. Quite a few, in fact. I also think this is a concession to Holmgren. Big Mike is retiring and it's about damn time he gets his tight end.
Here's your best remaining value in semi-order.
Anthony Collins Huge value here. One of the few true left tackles in this draft. Better upside than almost anyone. The perfect pick to stash and develop. I want Seattle to get this guy.
Early Doucet: Killed in my % per attempt and YPA metrics. Solid contributor in venerable defensive conference. Low downside. Good fit for Seattle. Great support skills: blocking, returning.
Andre Fluellen: Highly rated prospect due for a bounce back. Great value. A natural 3.
I'm going to go get some real beer, watch some 4th season Sopranos and pretend today's my birthday. I'll check in later. Thanks everyone, we've long since surpassed 10,000 views. That's pretty damn cool. This has been a really active and respectful thread and that alone is better than 100,000 views. You guys rock.
5:37
With Dexter Jackson, along with every other WR in the draft, being selected in the second, I think Early Doucet will be available in third. He's worth trading down for. Watch out for Andre Fluellen, too. I think Seattle could be very interested in him.
5:29
Those wondering why Green Bay drafted Brohm and now has two Qbs might want to look at their pass blocking. They didn't allow many sacks, but Brett Favre + McCarthy's system masked a true weakness. Now, some might say they should take a tackle, but that's retrograde thinking. The Pack can now just sub in whoever's healthy.
Wait, WHAT?
5:19
People pretty new to this frenzy should take note how the draft has played out in comparison to your garden variety Mock. Across the multitude you see a good level of agreement, yet they're way off compared to reality. Moral: 99.9% of Mock Drafts are nothing more than fantasy.
5:04
We're winding down the first day. Seattle has picked up some big talent, but it's important to consider the big picture. No one will look at Seattle as one of the big winners of day one. But they've added two starters. This was a very good team last season, and its biggest weakness, BY FAR, the running game, was revamped fairly cheaply in free agency. Ignore the flash and look at the facts and you'll see a very good team that has had one of the best overall offseasons in the NFL.
2:59
That's working the phones. Lets see what Seattle got for moving a few spots. Nevertheless, glad to see them acquire a few picks
28th pick, we know, 5th and 7th. Very nice.
3:15
Lawrence Jackson
Very good pick here. Obviously, Seattle needed depth behind Kerney. Seattle prefers strong, balanced defensive ends.
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Sando is reporting we didnt get the 28th pick in the deal..
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:03 PM PDT
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From Sando's article:
“Seattle received the 28th overall choice, plus the 163rd pick and the 235th pick.”
by Teej on
Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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Good move, so who do we take??
Brohm? the top WR?
Clemson DE, DT?
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:04 PM PDT
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please don't take Balmer
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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and we're back on the clock
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
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Alright we're back on the clock.
Trade down again?
by BrianL on
Apr 26, 2008 3:10 PM PDT
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NFL Network is taking another break on our pick?
Screw you!
by BrianL on
Apr 26, 2008 3:11 PM PDT
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The Seahawks must have moved to the CFL
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 26, 2008 3:11 PM PDT
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WIth Hass' injuries in the past couple seasons....
Brohm is not out of the question here.
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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Another break?!?!
They’re not even trying to feign interest in the Hawks
by ningwers on
Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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They might as well just say
“Nobody really cares about the Seahawks, so let’s break for commercial”
by cyberwulf on
Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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agreed
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
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Yeah
Here listen to this shitty grunge music no one here listens to while we talk about San Diego until we switch you to a commercial
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
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I'm starting to think Laws will be available at our natural 2 spot
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
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It would be nice.
If we dont get him, it isnt the end of the world though
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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Gotta love ESPN
Two times on the clock. Two commercial breaks. Sweeeeeet.
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
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NFLN did the same thing
The only analysis they’ve given us is “Dustin Keller”
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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My reasoning for Hardy (pick #19 in the mock)
I pondered whether or not I should go defense here. But, Seattle has lost DJ Hackett and Deion Branch suffered a devastating knee injury. Bobby Engram is getting old, so it’s time to bring in a new set of receivers for Seattle.
Hardy may not be fast (4.51 40), but he has massive hands and I don’t see him dropping many passes, something that has plagued the Seahawks for years. James also has a 42 inch vertical leap and since he is 6’7, I think that will help with jump balls. He has good upper body strength, and should be a powerful receiver for Matt Hasselbeck.
In 2008, I wouldn’t mind seeing Hardy, Burleson, Obumanu and Engram as the four WR set.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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Could be an interesting TE
I could see Hardy putting on a few more pounds and moving inside, can’t you?
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM PDT
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Ruskell take note: Trading down again
would work well for my schedule. Need to head down to watch a hockey game with some friends. Should be able to get there in time for a 2nd round pick.
by cyberwulf on
Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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My dream move
Trade down for some extra picks, still be able to grab Keller, but in the early second.
by AtomicGarden on
Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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C'monnnnn trade
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on
Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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The Pick is in...hm.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on
Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM PDT
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And shut up about Balmer
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 26, 2008 3:16 PM PDT
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they don't cover the seahawks
becuase Mel has no clue who Ruskell likes
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
by LantermanC on
Apr 26, 2008 3:16 PM PDT
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...who?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on
Apr 26, 2008 3:16 PM PDT
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Jackson DE USC
I don’t know anything about this guy
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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Any guy from USC is fine with me
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
by LantermanC on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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I am fine with that
what happened to Merling tho?
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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Explanation!
The artist formerly known as Katal
by Katal LM on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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LJ
I like the pick actually. Not a ton of pass rush, but plays the run well. A better version of Phillip Daniels.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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perfect compliment to Tapp
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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No to Manningham
Arrington would be available in the later rounds
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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good pick, Jackson is a solid player
much better pick than Balmer
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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Repeat after me
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
In Ruskell We Trust
by cyberwulf on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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Well, In Ruskell I trust...
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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who?
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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With such a dearth of talent on offense
we go defense again? Seriously?
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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I blame Mora
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
by Coach Owens on
Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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Don't blame anyone
No offense Coach, but Ruskell > any of us.
The artist formerly known as Katal
by Katal LM on
Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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I blame Coach Owens
for being a person that deified his parents attempt at an abortion
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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How do you really know that we could of got him later?
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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why does this happen?
this comment was suppose to go somewhere else
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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Pathetic, we may go defense the entire draft
I’m out y’all.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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Love DE that play containment
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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yeah
Sacks are way overrated
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
by LantermanC on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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why is everyone hating this
a top notch DE from USC? Yes please
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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John seems to like the pick.
I’m not sure yet.
by BrianL on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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USC runs our defense
so we know the learning curve won’t be steep. Also, this was Rang’s pick for us at 25.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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I've said "who?" for every first pick we've made in the Ruskell era
and most of the 2nd round picks. I trust Ruskell.
Maybe I… Truskell.
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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same here
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
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So guys, don't flip out on this pick.
John named a bunch of guys that didn’t get picked last year. Don’t worry so much about this.
Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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Merling was a rough cut
Perhaps a better potential, but Jackson will be ready to play.
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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exactly...
I saw a lot of Clemson and Merling disappears a bit. I think his upside is exaggerated a bit. Jackson is a great fit for us.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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It would've been dumb to take a TE there
But with everyone that fell to us…why LJ?
by OlSalty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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HA!! Balmer to the Niners!
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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HAHAHAHA!!!
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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Lauren Jackson
Center, Seattle Storm.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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It's not so much Jackson I don't like
It’s just that I remember looking out at the offense at one point last year and being stunned at the lack of playmakers. That offense got old in a hurry, and it’s only getting older. This doesn’t help AT ALL. We added to a strength with this pick, and I don’t think that’s a good thing.
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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Who on Offense at that pick should we add?
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Chad Johnson or Boldin
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by Christian on
Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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I was really hoping Mendenhall would fall to 25
I really would have liked to see them take a chance on the WR from MSU. That guy could develop into a playmaker. But again, Ruskell loves safe picks that are unlikely to bust. This guy falls into that category, obviously. He just can’t buy into even a 10 percent chance that a guy will bust, and the MSU kid only had one good year. Same with Malcolm Kelly.
I’m perfectly happy they didn’t take a TE, though. For reference on that one, check out some guy named Boss in NY.
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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So you're saying DeSean Jackson?
Or is there another playmaker you were thinking of that we passed over?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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hrmmm...
I trust ruskel he is a man who seems to know what he is doing
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
by wadswerth on
Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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here's what chris landry had to say about jackson
“productive, smart player in mark anderson mold, keys and diagnoses very well”
by langsty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Why are people saying who?
Lawrence Jackson played at fucking USC, he’s not exactly a nobody.
Obviously I’m biased but I love LoJack.
The poster formerly known as Matt.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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An all-american nobody
if memory serves. The kid’s a player.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
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Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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Plenty of All Americans
don’t do anything in the NFL. I trust Ruskell, but it doesn’t make this any less shocking.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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I agree Jackson is gonna be good
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by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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We could have picked him lower and traded down again
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Not so sure...
This is about where I saw him coming off boards.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
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Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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This is another classic Ruskell pick Jackson is undersized
The Good: Jackson is a mobile, strong athlete who uses his strength to battle bigger tackles. He combines good technique, power and quickness with a relentless attitude to pressure the passer effectively. He has been effective in run support despite marginal size.
The Bad: Lacks the burst of speed needed to be an elite edge rusher. Gets caught up with blockers at times and gets "washed out" of too many plays to his side. He can struggle facing double-team blocks. Lacks ideal size.
Outlook: His size is a concern, but his quickness and strength more than compensate for that factor. He can play either side at end. He’s a probable second-round pick, with clubs such as the Titans, Bengals, Eagles and Bucs interested.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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He's 270+
I don’t think his size is an issue. 4-3 ends don’t get much bigger. I don’t think Strahan plays at much more if any more.
I see Jackson as a better version of Phillip Daniels and a do-everything end and the kid from Va Tech as a specialist.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
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Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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The only thing is I'm sure we could have traded down
And got Jackson in the top 10 picks of the 2nd round
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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Jackson, like Long is very unlikely to bust
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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Trades arent one sided..
You need someone willing to trade up
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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Not everyone is so willing to trade down
Perhaps it just wasn’t there. I’ll give Ruskell the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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Well, that was somewhat anti-climactic
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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I just mean all the excitement leading up..and trading down
and then it was like…ohh
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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that's probably a good thing
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by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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Question
Have we ever traded up? Or am I thinking that we dont ever go for someone….effin M’s making me hate front offices.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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tatupu
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
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Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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This could turn out just like another "undersized" USC player - Tatupu
Mel Kiper didnt like that one either. Thats why he is a douche bag
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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He hasn't played a snap yet
how do you know how good he is?
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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I didnt put a value on "how" good he is
Are you saying he isnt a good player? Hes the top TE in the draft, hes going to contribute to an NFL team.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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Brohm to the Jets?
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Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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damn it green bay gets jets 2nd and 4th
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Apr 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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Damnit....this is getting boring. I woke up this morning thinking it was Christmas
turns out I am a Jehovahs Witness today.
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We could have got him in the second
I, for one, am really pissed off. We’re probably the only team to rate this guy higher than merling, campbell and groves. we could have sat in the second and taken him, and got desean jackson or trevor laws
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Apr 26, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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How do you really know that we could of got him later?
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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Is Bavasi running this draft?
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by Christian on
Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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Seeing as we haven't traded our picks for veterans
I don’t think so. Thats a terrible comparison.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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Oh please, lets stop the hyperbolic reactions here
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Reactions?
You can post whatever you want there bud.
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by Christian on
Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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Just cause you want a RB
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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I want a 7 foot RB with 4.3 speed!!
I fucking hate you Mariners
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Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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I do. I dont like JuJo or Duckett.
I want a home run hitter. I don’t like it that we like being safe…...I like taking chances.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
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It shows in your golf game
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I own you in golf.
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Washington
Anyone think he’s a stretch for the 2nd round. Grabbing another USC player?
by Sir_Fiendish on
Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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when's our next pick?
what number? also loljets
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Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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One other thing to remember
Ruskell said they would be drafting the famed “best player available.” That means they think Lawrence Jackson was the best player available. Hmmmmm …
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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Yeah, the Seahawks have guys who spend the entire season scouting college players.
This isn’t some random selection. They definitely had him ranked above those players or they would have selected them.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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He also mentioned
that the defensive line should be revamped every year. So it really shouldn’t come as a surprise
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
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Is Fred Davis
going to be around for the Seahawks next pick
by don gato on
Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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It doesn't matter Ruskell will not take him
crosses fingers
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
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why wouldn't a team w/o a legit
te be interested
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Apr 26, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
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because he's overvalued
and Ruskell is smarter than the average GM
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:34 PM PDT
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Yeah - in the first round.
Late second round is not overvaluing him
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Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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not taking fred davis (mackay award member)
w/o viable te option
=
stupid move
by don gato on
Apr 26, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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almost as dumb as
calling a winner
a member
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Apr 26, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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Taking a TE in the first round
is a stupid move this year.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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If not
Carlson or Bennet will, you have to think at this stage some wideouts with great value will be as well
by ciarannh on
Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
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What do we pick with our #2?
TE?
WR?
DT?
Trade down?
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
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carlson will probably be the pick if hes there, I don’t know if he’s not. could be bennet who looks like he has a lot of ptential
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Apr 26, 2008 3:34 PM PDT
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If Hardy fell that far, I would love him.
Can you imagine how Holmgren could move him around, both inside and outside, to exploit matchups? That is a guy who is still getting better—he’s only focused on football for a couple of years.
by Nuss on
Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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Good pick. I wanted him
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on
Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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There goes Phillips
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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Scruffy
call me if something good happens….I cant watch this anymore.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
by Christian on
Apr 26, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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Will do
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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You're being such a drama queen, calm down
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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ok there should be a smug cap on FG to go with the salary cap in the NFL
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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not in particular
you just seem to have a knack for smug comments
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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Ingnore him
he is just cranky because he wanted a new shiny sexy RB
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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I'm talking about christian by the way
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
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Phillips NYG
Tear Shed
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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he would have been so much better than trash russell
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
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Yup
I enjoy open Field tackling
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
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Is it only 7 minutes per pick for the 2nd round? or did I make that up?
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
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Merling to Miami
I wonder if Brohm could fall to 55??
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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Remember how we didn't even have a 1st round pick last year?
And then picked up Josh Wilson and Brandon Mebane?
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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Oh ya, that Josh Wilson
was amazing.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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Ruskell was just on ESPN News.
It took 2 minutes to find the channel and only caught the last 30 secods of blah blah blah. Anyone else see the interview?
by Wilder. on
Apr 26, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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Fred Davis ...
would be a decent second-round pick.
Although Davis is a bit short for the tight end position, he’s a solid pass catcher and a much, much better blocker than Dustin Keller - who thankfully was passed on by Tim Ruskell - however, anything is a possibility at this point.
by AK1984 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
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In terms of what? He is definitely not a better player.
Because FG has him slotted as our 4th round pick? How does that make him better
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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I just don't think TE's are worth first day picks
I never have. They just aren’t that important to a winning team. I also think you can find good ones in later rounds.
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
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Because Davis isn't worth our second round pick
IMO, and we can get Carlson
by OlSalty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:44 PM PDT
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later on without a huge drop in NFL potential*
by OlSalty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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Oh St. Louis
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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Good thing the rest of our division is pretty poorly managed
Man I love having Ruskell
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 26, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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The fact of the matter is
that the draft played out perfectly for us, until we picked. Everyone that we have collectively dreamed of for the last few months, laws, jackson, phillips, were all available. We chose to reach for a player in a spot that isn’t as high a need as SS,DT, or WR, positions in which there was great value. We need a receiver in the second
by ciarannh on
Apr 26, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
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Laws would have been a massive reach
No one has him rated higher than the mid-2nd round
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:44 PM PDT
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Scouts inc had Lawrence Jackson ranked mid-late 2nd round so we just reached for a different guy
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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Which draft pick does Scouts Inc have?
Who was the last defensive bust that Ruskell drafted?
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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I can appreciate your defense of Ruskell
but Jackson was a bit of a reach. Not that he won’t be good, not that I don’t trust Ruskell, but that was a really surprising move.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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It isnt much of a defense.
Nearly ALL mock drafts had us taking Dustin Keller or Kentwaan Balmer.
Neither of those, as everyone here seems to think, would have been a good choice.
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
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Donnie Avery is the first off the board?
He was a guy going in the 2nd/3rd round in mock drafts b/c the good WRs were gone.
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:44 PM PDT
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Who has Lo-Jack rated higher than Laws??
by ciarannh on
Apr 26, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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It's not like Laws has been picked already
let the draft play out, you never know what will happen.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
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Scout.com has Lo Jack ranked #8 DE
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
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If these websites had such great scouts they would be working for NFL teams..
They rank plaeyrs like Johnathan Sullivan high, then they bust.
Just withhold judgement until the players play
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT
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Jordy Nelson had a crazy year last year
I like him better than Avery…
Where does DeSean Jackson go now?
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
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Rams picked Avery because Martz likes speed guys
and he’s also mad.
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT
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Run on WR
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT
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Just not the ones people expected
this is kinda fun
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT
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There's a fair amount of tall, athletic ...
wideouts still available who fit the mold as a prototypical possession receiver at split end.
At least one of Linas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly, and James Hardy should drop to the 55th pick.
by AK1984 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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ya
nothin wrong with improving the pass rush. i dunno if merling/campbell were better prospects or not, but I’m sure there must have been obvious positives in Jackson’s game that would have made the Hawks FO decide on him.
Let's go.
by J Hens on
Apr 26, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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Only way to catch lightning in a bottle
Is to throw the bottle at the lightning
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by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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From what I'm reading Jackson is more of the sure thing
Merling Campbell and the like are better prospects, but Jackson will be able to contribute now and not 2-3 years from now.
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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Yeah.. Campbell had less sacks and a worse workout than Jackson in a worse conference.
Not sure what all the hype is about. He was ranked #15 by most places and dropped to the 2nd round..
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
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Everyone had Jordy in the 3rd round
Obviously the Packers saw something they liked…
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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you guys defending lawrence jackson are missing the point
he may or may not be a better player that is irrelevant
the point is, he was low on other teams radar and could have been gotten later for less
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Apr 26, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
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We don't know that for sure
People raked us over coals for trading up for Tatupu when other teams have said that they would’ve taken him if we hadn’t done so.
by Strang on
Apr 26, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
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You have no idea that is true since you are judging it based on Scout.com, ScoutsINC etc
You have no access to “teams radars”
By that same evaluation method Jordy Nelson could have been had WAY later than GB took him. I highly doubt that is the case.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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It's hard to say where he is on other teams radar
and it’s certain he wouldn’t have been around for the Hawks next pick. It’s a very surprising pick, but it’s not a bad pick.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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that's not really missing the point
all i can really say is
LOFA TATUPU
Let's go.
by J Hens on
Apr 26, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
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Exactly
DE wasn’t a priority. Phillips is also a sure thing
by ciarannh on
Apr 26, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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Actually DE was a priority
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
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WE TRADED UP!
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
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Ooooo
WEEEEE JUST TRADED UP FOR LAWS I THINK
by OlSalty on
Apr 26, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
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Ugh...
Well at least it was the TE I would have preferred
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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Notre Dame......
not laws though, haha that sent me for a loop
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 26, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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Its official
We’re fucking retarded! HE”D BE THERE AT 55!
by ciarannh on
Apr 26, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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Ladies and gentlemen we have a inside source
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on
Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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yeah
you need to allow that Ruskell might know this better than you.
by Matthew on
Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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You have no way of knowing that
Although I still dislike this pick
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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YOU DONT KNOW THAT.
Do you see into the future? Would you have had Merling at 32? No
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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well according to you
no one knows anything because none of us really have any insider information. you can get hung up over our lack of insider information or just consider it for what it is.. an opinion, and recognize you have one as well, which is likewise based on what little true information you really know. you don’t have to point out that each individual person really doesn’t know much… we already know that, and it’s true about you too.
by clamslayer on
Apr 26, 2008 4:05 PM PDT
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we had picks to deal
the Hawks liked him, they moved up a little to get him. It’s not like we traded our next years 1st round pick for him.
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
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noooooooooooooooo!
well hopefully this works out better than Rick Meier
by don gato on
Apr 26, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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i was hoping jackson oh well
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
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Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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hmm..not sure about trading up for Carlson
but we add some extra picks to deal from Dallas, I like the move.
FREE JEREMY REED!!
by MFAN on
Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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jordy nelson looked like a good pick a couple of picks back
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
by LantermanC on
Apr 26, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
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Ruskell can't win them all
Its not horrid..but just head-scratching
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on
Apr 26, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
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Hopefully not much
Or I am going to be pissed
by marinator on
Apr 26, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
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our 2nd and 3rd...
i don’t like this at all.
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