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Live Blog NFL Draft Day 2

2:05

I gave up on Seattle drafting Washington a while back, so though I think he's a very good value, I'm just happy to see him drafted. Here's what's so cool about working so hard before the draft and looking into so many players, I've begun rooting for some. I may never see Washington outside of the preseason, but I will root for him to kick butt. Generally speaking, I love the preseason. Last year, I could watch Mebane and Taylor on the Hawks and know they had a place in the team's future. This year, I'm going to be able to do that with every team. That's pretty cool.

1:43

How does one lineback? So, anyway, I think the Eagles have had a very good draft. Cards, too. Niners draft looks very poor. Bears, too. Seattle has done many things well, but it frightens me that they - seemingly - fail to see offensive tackle as a need. It's a gamble and one with a serious cost. They need depth at the position, minimum, and I think Barton is a great value here. This is my thinking. Barton had some trouble against the speed rush, but he was a ~4 year starter at OSU. Lock handles the speed rush well. If Seattle can just get someone who can cover for Lock if Lock must move to left, then they're in a much less risky position. But, as-is, we're looking at a decent replacement for Walter Jones should he get hurt, but a huge downgrade at right tackle should Locklear have to sub in for him. C'mon Ruskell, we need this.

1:23

Lots of talent left in the 7th, should make for a mighty interesting round. Which is, you know, kind of crazy when you think about it.

12:49

Boy, Mike Nolan looks like hell.

Moving on, here's 4 talents left I see Seattle targeting with their next pick:

Kirk Barton, LT, OSU

Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU

Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tenn

Jamie Silva, FS, BC

My guess is Barton, but it's impossible to predict. Could be another curveball.

11:24

Great value for Houston. Okam joins a very talented group. He's the perfect compliment to Okoye. In 3 years, we'll be talking about that line as the league's best.

11:09

Okay, so how the hell does Cincinnati take Pat Sims? Have they learned nothing? Sims is a HUGE character concern. If Marvin Lewis can okay Sims with all that franchise has gone through, he's gotta go. That team is too damn talented to be in shambles.

Okay, quick aside. The "Golden Age" myth, the idea that some foregone time was better, specifically more wholesome or virtuous or tough, whatever, is as old as mankind. Chaucer wrote about it in the 13th century. The players of the current NFL are probably slightly better than their antecedents. And only because the NFL has surpassed baseball as the USA's pastime and therefore has better access to premium talent. Otherwise, great players today, great players of yesteryear, can we put this moronic theory to rest?

11:03

Inmates running the asylum in Dallas. Interesting experiment, but I'd buy insurance on the lab. Love to see that team come out 0-3.

10:50

Don't mistake this for sour grapes, but rumor is JDB's hands are smaller than Alex Smith's. I sort of wonder what has happened to Ainge. I know I'm among the few, but I always thought he looked pretty good.

10:32

I'm impressed with that interview with DeSean Jackson. Sure, he looked humbled, but he wasn't mad, wasn't discouraged. For his contributions as a matchup problem and special teams player alone, he's worth a second round pick.

10:22

I don't care what anyone says, the Pats are having a bad draft.

Is Ali Highsmith seriously still out there? Man, c'mon Tim, you know you want this guy.

9:32

Does Millen do anything right? Kevin Smith = Workhorse. Translation: He's been worked to death.

9:14

These guys are getting pretty punchy.

In 2007, it was an exceptionally deep wide receiver draft. Seattle did the hardest thing, wait. Then, in the 6th round they struck. Grabbing a polished player from a big conference, Courtney Taylor, and that absolute rarest of combinations, a supreme talent and true high character individual, Jordan Kent. It was a brilliant move. This year, in an incredibly deep tackle draft, Seattle may be employing the same strategy. Anthony Collins, Geoff Schwartz, Breno Giacomini, Kirk Barton (remember this name) and Barry Richardson, to name a few, one will fall. And Seattle might gain their longterm replacement for Walter Jones in the 4-7 round.

8:55

Mike Mayock is a star. The NFL targeted a weakness in their competition, Mel Kiper, and have, in little more than a year, put him out to pasture. Say what you will about the NFL, they are ruthless business men.

8:49

Manningham runs terrible routes. Terrible. His skill set simply doesn't translate. If he was a mature, hard working player with better speed, then maybe, maybe, some of this praise would be merited. As is, I could see him cut in training camp.

8:44

Well, damn, remember Caldwell before your fantasy drafts. It's looking more and more like Seattle isn't looking at adding a wide receiver. I'm alright with that, I guess. You better step up Bohemian.

So, still some interesting offensive tackles out there. They need a DT, and they need an OT. Safety would be nice. Lots of needs, not too many picks. Time to earn your money, Tim.

8:34

Brad Cottam would be the best tight end in the draft if he had stayed healthy, bullshit. No possible way you can backup that argument.

8:21

Fluellen didn't make plays because has was moved to nose. I haven't talked about it, but Andre Caldwell is still sitting out there. Man, that would be sweet.

8:11

Damn, adios Andre Fluellen. Getting thin at the 3.

8:05 

Doucet is a perfect fit for Ken Whisenhunt and the Cardinals. A good draft so far for them. Yeah, I'm shocked.

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So in Jamie Dukes-ology

A power pig is a two-gap DT and not 3 techs?

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 8:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I would be giddy if somehow Caldwell dropped to us.

He reminds me of a young D-Jack.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Manningham keeps dropping...

... any chance the Hawks take him? I’m assuming the character issues are a deal-breaker.

by cyberwulf on Apr 27, 2008 8:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it.

They dont need Koren v2.0

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Kevin O'Connell?

Weird draft for the Pats

by cyberwulf on Apr 27, 2008 8:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know if any player trades are whispered to happen today?

thinking of 4th rounders traded for D-Jack/Moss type things.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bah

Caldwell to the Bengals

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 8:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone explain

what Explosive Height Weight Speed is?

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

he’s still young, so they’re expecting a growth spurt? ;)

by cyberwulf on Apr 27, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Justin King to the Rams

I was hoping they’d make another weird pick and they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 8:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the chances

we target a QB today?

by BrianL on Apr 27, 2008 9:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I personally don't think so

there are bigger needs for the Hawks (T, S, LB, DT) a QB would be nice, but I see them adding depth amongst the other positions with the rest of their picks.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booty, Bryant or Anthony Collins

are my hopes with pick 121

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Collins = Bengals

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 9:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It'll be awesome when the Browns have no draft picks left in the 2011 draft

The Cowboys are gonna draft an entire team that could’ve been the Browns.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals won this draft..

The division on the other hand.

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

they've done well

but they just reached on a DE with some character concerns.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

any good safeties available?

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I've missed a lot

this started earlier than I expected today. Whats left on the board? I see Tashard Choice is around.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RED!

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And our pick is......

RED BRYANT!! DT!!!

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Bryant DT from T A&M

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Bryant

I don’t really know much about him. He’s a two gap, I assume?

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently our replacement for Rocky Bernard

Is another DT from Texas A&M. Yay us!

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do we need a RB now?

We have Morris, Duckett, Jones, Weaver. What do you want?

I think we should wait another year.

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha I knew it

I’m just going to assume he’ll be awesome

by marinator on Apr 27, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Bryant is a beast.

It’s “Jaguars centric”, but I’ve got a prospect preview here that might be of interest.

I love the pick, I really had hoped the Jaguars would try and get him, though I thought he was a 3rd round guy.

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by River City Rage on Apr 27, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the great preview.

Well done. Definitely makes me glad for this past pick.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a good candidate for the Seahawks primary "Run Stuffer"

With Red, Mebane, and if Tubbs can stay healthy we have a good core of young DT’s.

by marinator on Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell did the Cowboys just take another RB?

Is a 1st Rd pick and Marion Barber not enough depth?

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Our defensive line is looking better and better

Maybe we’ll be able to win on the road more than 3 times a year now.

by marinator on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone game for a WR?

I need someone besides Obumanu.

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Carlson

TE will be more involved this year in the passing game.

I could still see them taking a WR in round 7.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RED!

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My take on the pick is up.

Raiders = “Strictly a science team”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Dear Lord.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA

by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard Mariucci get "scientific" yesterday

and he just spewed a bunch of measurables. In that respect, the Raiders are the most scientific team in the NFL, it’s all about the 40 time.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their prospects have a lot of measurable "length" and "upside"

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why did Dallas take another back?

I know they are having some contract issues with Barber…but still.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way, I thank Tim Ruskell

for trading our 3rd round pick so I could sleep through the 3rd round. Thank you Timmy! And *c you ESPN for starting at 7 am Pacific.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so much for trying to edit myself, should just swear more

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good pick for Indy there with Jacob Tamme

Another good Dallas Clark mold TE.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The rich keep etting richer

If they ever give an award for drafting it should be named after Polian

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booty would be a great fit

but Ali Highsmith would be an awesome pick in the 5th.

It’s between Booty and Highsmith for me in the 5th, if they are both available.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dukes is gonna beat down Mayock

Eisen is chanting fight in the backround

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 10:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the Patriots can't have a bad draft

they could draft all the posters on this blog and they will still get praised by ESPN snd NFLN.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would make a good special teams player.

No speed, no strength, but HEART

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question for those who have NFLN

Has their coverage been significantly better than ESPN? I sure hope so, because ESPN has been abysmal.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think ESPN is taking pride in not actually talking about draft picks

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I give them credit

they stick to their guns. It’s been 10 minutes since they’ve talked about the Cowboys and Felix Jones.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to grab Booty (hahah grab booty!)

but Highsmith is the better pick IMO. I don’t think we need a G, even though I like Scuhening.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes Booty to the Vikings

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lions take a WR!!!!!!!!

you knew it would happen!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well, Booty = Vikings

I hope that doesn’t mean Tavaris Jackson is done :(

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we're off the clock for QBs now

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This draft is going pretty well, I'd say

I love what this means for our d-line (and what it means ultimately for Tatupu) and the Carlson pick makes me smile every time I think of it.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course Booty said he wanted to go to Minnesota

They actually need a QB now

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

FYI

Ruskell said the team was thrilled to get the 5th round pick because their was a player that they absolutely wanted in the 5th. Should be an interesting pick.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm wondering about that

Ruskell dropping stuff like that gets me excited

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a font of good information. Serious. I can't keep up with all this stuff and you always bring something interesting.

I’m guessing it’s an OT. There’s a lot of really promising players out there. We know they want a tackle, I’m think Barton or Giacomini.

by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great, now ESPN is showing us Tom Brady

I hate you, ESPN

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I'll appreciate it the other million times I get to see Tom Brady

And yet, during the draft, I’d actually like them to talk about the draft, the draft choices, etc.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do the Seahwks only get one 5th

round pick?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

traded it away for Pearmen

then got it back from Dallas yesterday.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh.

he was a decent option if he stayed healthy. Good special teams player/would of gotten some carries at the end of the year.

Not defending the trade or anything, but it was no bigge.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny

how giving up a 5th rounder for a back up RB doesn’t sound like a big deal. But when you’re watching the second day of the draft that missing 5th round pick seems like the end of the world.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool, thanks MFAN.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Count me as surprised by that analysis

How much more fail do you need from Grossman?

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So bored...... Hurry up other teams!

We still got 20 picks until ours!

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on Ainge

I was listening to Mike Martz talk about how far he came in just a few days practice at the Senior Bowl. I know it’s Martz, so take it for what it’s worth, but he was really high on Ainge. He might be a guy that greatly benefits from an NFL coaching staff.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Martz may be certifiably insane but he does know QBs

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

The Saints trade up to draft a DT in front of the Bengals again.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

JD Booty gone, oh well

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this guy from Army sounds like a great story

not sure how good he is, put I think it would be cool if he was a Seahawk.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

but not put

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo, the Stihl Timberwoods Challenge!

Can you say “fun”?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man it's almost guaranteed

that one of schuening, highsmith, Barton or Giacomini will be there at our pick. Keep up the good work ruskell!

by redwolf75 on Apr 27, 2008 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is awesome

My roommate is a 49ers fan and he went to Richmond. He was hoping Tim Hightower would somehow be drafted by the Niners—and the CARDS got him. Hee hee hee.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hightower seems a bit of a reach, but hey, what do I know?

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he was hoping for a 6th or 7th round flier

He did have great stats though (but in the CAA).

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m glad we got the guy we got when we got him.

I am jazzed about Red. Between John’s write-up and the bit from the TNT… whew.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Run on DT!!!!!!

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did this turn out to be a great WR draft

from a value stand point? There weren’t many good WRs out there, and they all slipped to the second and third or worse. Some teams are going to come away with some steals. Most of these receivers probably won’t work out, but it’s not like much was spent on any of them.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It defiantly looks like NFL teams have taken note

that WR is a risky pick

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to think some of them will pan out well

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been gone all morning

Is andre Woodson still out there?

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else catch that ESPN thing on Brohm/Henne?

Brohm said he’d had a lot of contact with Seattle, he seemed disappointed when he talked about the Hawks. He seemed just really down in general though.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he probably wants to play right away

he knows going to Seattle would of meant sitting on the bench for at least 2 years.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seemed disappointed that Seattle came and went

and he wasn’t the pick, or at least that was the impression I got.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh I see

well, Seattle was a good fit for him and he would have gotten a year with Holmgren.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Before he was drafted, he did seem to be excited about his contacts from Seattle

It would seem to be a good opportunity for a young QB… tutor under Holmgren for one year, have Hasselbeck the Dry Comic as your mentor, and if you make it, sit 3rd on a depth chart with an athletic QB/WR as the backup.

It would be a major concession to Holmgren in his last year if they pick a QB at any point today. Certainly they’ll be signing a project UFA either way.

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be down to

If I was a top 10 pick one year. Opted to go back to school and got ditched by your coach and now have been drafted in the 3rd round.

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

your right don’t know why I thought the 3rd

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Dennis Dixon to the Steelers

Think they see him as an Antwaan Randle El?

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dixon to the Steelers

Eric Ainge would be a real interesting pick for the Hawks.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats the Steelers overall grade

on QB to WR conversions? Dixon, Randle El, Slash and Ward. About a B?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh god, I forgot about Slash!

he did it all in 1995

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, was hoping he'd still be there in a few picks

Outside of Chris Long, maybe the best pick the Rams have made so far

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to sound sexist

but who the fuck is this girl on espn talking with michael smith and company?

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

never seen her before

she’s not terrible though, at least she doesn’t mention the Patriots every chance she gets…unlike the rest of them.

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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's just crazy

josh johnson and dennis dixon go a few picks apart

by clamslayer on Apr 27, 2008 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good for Tampa to get at least ONE QB

When Jeff Garcia falls apart, they need as many options as possible

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, just heard the phrase "big upside"!

One of my favorites.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rob Rang predicts S Corey Lynch

which makes sense, seeing as we’re into the Special Teams level of the draft.

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

High-Motor

my current favorite

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Johnson can throw the ball a mile

but I’m not sure I’d call that a pro style offense that he was running

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There goes Erik Ainge to the Jets

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I swear they were just playing Leonard Weaver highlights

on the big screen behind the NFL Network setup…

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Owen Schmitt?

That’s surprising

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Owen Schmitt?

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Schmitt?

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Owen Schmitt?

Didn’t see that one coming.

by JLC on Apr 27, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Really? That has to be just a special teams pick...

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.....I rush home for that?!

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Owen Schimdt!

I am so happy, I thought that was an absolute pipe dream. That adds a lot of toughness to the team

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My guess...

They think Leonard Weaver might bail after this season.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i guess you do need a solid backup at the position

so the RB group looks like…

Jones
Duckett
Morris
Weaver
Schmitt Sports-Pack

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Morgan is the MAN

I have to say that your analysis has been great all along. Your projections of quality at the bottom of 5 is solid. Polian just picks an OLB you tabbed. Keep it up!

by WWUPhil on Apr 27, 2008 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Owen Schmitt is a beast

Video up in a few.

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Schmitt already...

Nice little montage on ESPN, with him bashing himself with his helmet after a 9-yard quick kick.

“Scoring a touchdown is fun… but so is flattening someone with a block”

by Mariner Optimist on Apr 27, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mayock and Kiper

’’Mike Mayock is a star. The NFL targeted a weakness in their competition, Mel Kiper, and have, in little more than a year, put him out to pasture. Say what you will about the NFL, they are ruthless business men.’‘

i was just curious of what this meant? I haven’t followed anything between the two, can anyone tell me what’s goin on there?

Let's go.

by J Hens on Apr 27, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

ESPN’s coverage sucks balls. NFL Network is far superior in only its second year of existence. It used to be that you had to rely on Mel Kipper jr. for talent evaluations and mocks. He had contacts with agents and GMs. he worked hard. His talent evaluation was flawed and he may have fueled some over-hype of certain payers. Even at ESPN many fans have jumped to Todd McShay as the superior evaluator. I understand that he is better in insider knowledge and statistical assessment. Mayock is better than both. He nailed his mock drafts with incredible accuracy and his talent board matches most good GMs (as evidenced by picks). Basically ESPN is now just a bunch of talking heads and no real substance. And Mel Kipper Jr. is now the football equivalent of Peter Gammons. Why would you pay to read his crap?

by WWUPhil on Apr 27, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES OWEN SCHMITT

I LOVE THIS GUY

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haahahah

They asked Mike Lombardi who was the 2nd day steal. He said Red Bryant.

And the NFLN started playing Dorien Bryant highlights.

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 12:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Colt Brennan = Redskins

interesting project for Zorn.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 12:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Colt brennan gained 15 pounds of muscle

I don’t think that it would help him that much if his offensive line sucked a lot…

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And your new Seahawk is....

Tyler Schmitt? What?

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

another schmitt

long snapper this time

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We got two Schmitts?

Long snapper from San Diego State

by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha, long snapper!

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

man

Left some serious talent on the board… maybe Ruskell thinks his guys will still be there…

by WWUPhil on Apr 27, 2008 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

after last years debacle at LS… this can’t hurt

by WWUPhil on Apr 27, 2008 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok Ruskell this is the first pick I don't get.

This guy would have been guaranteed to be in the 7th.

by redwolf75 on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If he ends up being the answer at LS...

then I love it. So far we have guys who all seem to have excellent shots at making the roster.

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is an overview of his skills

One of only two long-snappers invited to the Combine, Schmitt may lack the bulk scouts prefer at the position, but he is among the best in every other facet of the game. Schmitt, who also practiced at linebacker for the Aztecs, had only two career tackles, but his value lies in his deep snapping accuracy and speed. A four-year starter, Schmitt never had a bad snap on punts or field-goal attempts and generates good speed on his snaps.

by marinator on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Redskins did a good job in this draft

Surprised that Sean Taylor wasn’t the reason like their comeback against Seattle (which was then squashed).

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

By "all over"

Do you mean they love it or hate it? Remember, I get ESPN, where they prefer to not talk about actual draft choices.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're talking about it a lot

Eisen said it’s crazy, and it is, but they’re making a good point about how long a long snapper can play for. I’d say they’re very perplexed, think it was way too early, but does have value so it’s not just god awful. Basically what everyone is saying here.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like an earlier commentor said...

It looks like all our picks are so that we can win next year. Nothing we’re looking at is for the future.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no clue what to predict

John Carlson was the only draft choice that I even somewhat saw coming

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My guess is that Tyler Schmitt was getting lots of calls from teams

Telling him “we’d love to bring you to camp” but not drafting him. Ruskell figured there was enough of a risk of the best LS being taken before he could get him as an undrafted FA. If the argument is “he would still be there in the 7th”, well, how do you know? You don’t, you like him so you pull the trigger. No guarantee they’d be able to sign him as an UDFA so lock him up. Pretty smart, potentially. If this guy’s our LS for the next few years y’all be singing Ruskell’s praises.

Plus, San Diego State guys tend to be sleepers in the draft, then turn into solid, productive pro players (Dan McGuire excepted – not a sleeper). Go Aztecs!! : )

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for mentioning Dan McGuire before we all yelled at you. :)

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

San Diego st.

La’roy Glover, Marhsall Faulk, Brain Russell(!!!)

not a bad little list.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will Demps, Kirk Morrison, Kabeer Gbaja-biamila, Kassim Osgood...

Not to mention Don Coryell, John Madden, Joe Gibbs, Herm Edwards, John Fox… : )

by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Hart and Andre Woodsen...yuck

just don’t see either doing anything in the NFL.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Woodsen's behind Eli Manning, so I don't see him doing too much at this point

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just throwing a name out there....

Yvenson Bernard?

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Washington to the Jags

I think John died a little inside.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dang, Chauncey Washington off the board

to Jax

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shoot

Wanted him here.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure everyone else already knew this...

but I just found out that Laurence Jackson is about to be the son-in-law of former Seattle great Jacob Green.

That’s pretty cool.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sweet

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

l love Forsett

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Justin Forsett, very interesting...

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

seattle is just trying to be unpredictable, lol

by clamslayer on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just bitch slapping Mock drafts

left and right

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really think they went with their board on every pick, and what Ruskell likes is at times… peculiar.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maurice morris part deux

by WWUPhil on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it

Forsett will probably be on the practice squad.

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kicker!!!1

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright, got our next kicker after all

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

kicker

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LB and OL

will be address with rookie FA

Coach Owens has no bones

by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW, here are some notes about Coutu

He hit a 58 yarder with little wind before.

Has never missed a PAT.

53/66 overall on FGs with Georgia.

One problem I see in him is his poor kickoffs but other than that it’s a great pick.

See ya Shaun.

by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Draft

L. Jackson, DE
J. Carlson, TE
R. Bryant, DT
O. Schmitt, FB
T. Schmitt, LS
J. Forsett, RB
B. Coutu, K

Not a bad haul. Perhaps Carlson is the only likely starter (and maybe Coutu). Not a sexy draft but an effective one I think.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Starters

Maybe Jackson and Bryant aren’t starters, but that classification doesn’t mean all that much with the Hawks’ rotation of players at DT and DE. They should both play lots and contribute this season. T. Schmitt will “start” at LS. O.Schmitt will very likely start at FB.

by jeager on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No OL....

I don’t like it.

by OlSalty on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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