Live Blog NFL Draft Day 2
by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
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I gave up on Seattle drafting Washington a while back, so though I think he's a very good value, I'm just happy to see him drafted. Here's what's so cool about working so hard before the draft and looking into so many players, I've begun rooting for some. I may never see Washington outside of the preseason, but I will root for him to kick butt. Generally speaking, I love the preseason. Last year, I could watch Mebane and Taylor on the Hawks and know they had a place in the team's future. This year, I'm going to be able to do that with every team. That's pretty cool.
1:43
How does one lineback? So, anyway, I think the Eagles have had a very good draft. Cards, too. Niners draft looks very poor. Bears, too. Seattle has done many things well, but it frightens me that they - seemingly - fail to see offensive tackle as a need. It's a gamble and one with a serious cost. They need depth at the position, minimum, and I think Barton is a great value here. This is my thinking. Barton had some trouble against the speed rush, but he was a ~4 year starter at OSU. Lock handles the speed rush well. If Seattle can just get someone who can cover for Lock if Lock must move to left, then they're in a much less risky position. But, as-is, we're looking at a decent replacement for Walter Jones should he get hurt, but a huge downgrade at right tackle should Locklear have to sub in for him. C'mon Ruskell, we need this.
1:23
Lots of talent left in the 7th, should make for a mighty interesting round. Which is, you know, kind of crazy when you think about it.
12:49
Boy, Mike Nolan looks like hell.
Moving on, here's 4 talents left I see Seattle targeting with their next pick:
Kirk Barton, LT, OSU
Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU
Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tenn
Jamie Silva, FS, BC
My guess is Barton, but it's impossible to predict. Could be another curveball.
11:24
Great value for Houston. Okam joins a very talented group. He's the perfect compliment to Okoye. In 3 years, we'll be talking about that line as the league's best.
11:09
Okay, so how the hell does Cincinnati take Pat Sims? Have they learned nothing? Sims is a HUGE character concern. If Marvin Lewis can okay Sims with all that franchise has gone through, he's gotta go. That team is too damn talented to be in shambles.
Okay, quick aside. The "Golden Age" myth, the idea that some foregone time was better, specifically more wholesome or virtuous or tough, whatever, is as old as mankind. Chaucer wrote about it in the 13th century. The players of the current NFL are probably slightly better than their antecedents. And only because the NFL has surpassed baseball as the USA's pastime and therefore has better access to premium talent. Otherwise, great players today, great players of yesteryear, can we put this moronic theory to rest?
11:03
Inmates running the asylum in Dallas. Interesting experiment, but I'd buy insurance on the lab. Love to see that team come out 0-3.
10:50
Don't mistake this for sour grapes, but rumor is JDB's hands are smaller than Alex Smith's. I sort of wonder what has happened to Ainge. I know I'm among the few, but I always thought he looked pretty good.
10:32
I'm impressed with that interview with DeSean Jackson. Sure, he looked humbled, but he wasn't mad, wasn't discouraged. For his contributions as a matchup problem and special teams player alone, he's worth a second round pick.
10:22
I don't care what anyone says, the Pats are having a bad draft.
Is Ali Highsmith seriously still out there? Man, c'mon Tim, you know you want this guy.
9:32
Does Millen do anything right? Kevin Smith = Workhorse. Translation: He's been worked to death.
9:14
These guys are getting pretty punchy.
In 2007, it was an exceptionally deep wide receiver draft. Seattle did the hardest thing, wait. Then, in the 6th round they struck. Grabbing a polished player from a big conference, Courtney Taylor, and that absolute rarest of combinations, a supreme talent and true high character individual, Jordan Kent. It was a brilliant move. This year, in an incredibly deep tackle draft, Seattle may be employing the same strategy. Anthony Collins, Geoff Schwartz, Breno Giacomini, Kirk Barton (remember this name) and Barry Richardson, to name a few, one will fall. And Seattle might gain their longterm replacement for Walter Jones in the 4-7 round.
8:55
Mike Mayock is a star. The NFL targeted a weakness in their competition, Mel Kiper, and have, in little more than a year, put him out to pasture. Say what you will about the NFL, they are ruthless business men.
8:49
Manningham runs terrible routes. Terrible. His skill set simply doesn't translate. If he was a mature, hard working player with better speed, then maybe, maybe, some of this praise would be merited. As is, I could see him cut in training camp.
8:44
Well, damn, remember Caldwell before your fantasy drafts. It's looking more and more like Seattle isn't looking at adding a wide receiver. I'm alright with that, I guess. You better step up Bohemian.
So, still some interesting offensive tackles out there. They need a DT, and they need an OT. Safety would be nice. Lots of needs, not too many picks. Time to earn your money, Tim.
8:34
Brad Cottam would be the best tight end in the draft if he had stayed healthy, bullshit. No possible way you can backup that argument.
8:21
Fluellen didn't make plays because has was moved to nose. I haven't talked about it, but Andre Caldwell is still sitting out there. Man, that would be sweet.
8:11
Damn, adios Andre Fluellen. Getting thin at the 3.
8:05
Doucet is a perfect fit for Ken Whisenhunt and the Cardinals. A good draft so far for them. Yeah, I'm shocked.
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So in Jamie Dukes-ology
A power pig is a two-gap DT and not 3 techs?
Yeah, I would be giddy if somehow Caldwell dropped to us.
He reminds me of a young D-Jack.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
If Manningham keeps dropping...
... any chance the Hawks take him? I’m assuming the character issues are a deal-breaker.
Who's Kevin O'Connell?
Weird draft for the Pats
Anyone know if any player trades are whispered to happen today?
thinking of 4th rounders traded for D-Jack/Moss type things.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Someone explain
what Explosive Height Weight Speed is?
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Justin King to the Rams
I was hoping they’d make another weird pick and they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain.
I personally don't think so
there are bigger needs for the Hawks (T, S, LB, DT) a QB would be nice, but I see them adding depth amongst the other positions with the rest of their picks.
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It'll be awesome when the Browns have no draft picks left in the 2011 draft
The Cowboys are gonna draft an entire team that could’ve been the Browns.
I've missed a lot
this started earlier than I expected today. Whats left on the board? I see Tashard Choice is around.
Red Bryant
I don’t really know much about him. He’s a two gap, I assume?
Apparently our replacement for Rocky Bernard
Is another DT from Texas A&M. Yay us!
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions
Why do we need a RB now?
We have Morris, Duckett, Jones, Weaver. What do you want?
I think we should wait another year.
See ya Shaun.
Red Bryant is a beast.
It’s “Jaguars centric”, but I’ve got a prospect preview here that might be of interest.
I love the pick, I really had hoped the Jaguars would try and get him, though I thought he was a 3rd round guy.
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by River City Rage on Apr 27, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks for the great preview.
Well done. Definitely makes me glad for this past pick.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like a good candidate for the Seahawks primary "Run Stuffer"
With Red, Mebane, and if Tubbs can stay healthy we have a good core of young DT’s.
Why the hell did the Cowboys just take another RB?
Is a 1st Rd pick and Marion Barber not enough depth?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
Our defensive line is looking better and better
Maybe we’ll be able to win on the road more than 3 times a year now.
A rookie, my friend saw Courtney Taylor at practice before and he says he is awesome
It’s a given once Engram retires.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
My take on the pick is up.
Raiders = “Strictly a science team”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Dear Lord.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA
I heard Mariucci get "scientific" yesterday
and he just spewed a bunch of measurables. In that respect, the Raiders are the most scientific team in the NFL, it’s all about the 40 time.
Their prospects have a lot of measurable "length" and "upside"
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
why did Dallas take another back?
I know they are having some contract issues with Barber…but still.
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By the way, I thank Tim Ruskell
for trading our 3rd round pick so I could sleep through the 3rd round. Thank you Timmy! And *c you ESPN for starting at 7 am Pacific.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
so much for trying to edit myself, should just swear more
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Good pick for Indy there with Jacob Tamme
Another good Dallas Clark mold TE.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
You know, I really don't know.
He fits what they need.
by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Booty would be a great fit
but Ali Highsmith would be an awesome pick in the 5th.
It’s between Booty and Highsmith for me in the 5th, if they are both available.
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the Patriots can't have a bad draft
they could draft all the posters on this blog and they will still get praised by ESPN snd NFLN.
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I would make a good special teams player.
No speed, no strength, but HEART
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Question for those who have NFLN
Has their coverage been significantly better than ESPN? I sure hope so, because ESPN has been abysmal.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions
I think ESPN is taking pride in not actually talking about draft picks
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I give them credit
they stick to their guns. It’s been 10 minutes since they’ve talked about the Cowboys and Felix Jones.
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I'd love to grab Booty (hahah grab booty!)
but Highsmith is the better pick IMO. I don’t think we need a G, even though I like Scuhening.
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There goes Booty to the Vikings
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I think we're off the clock for QBs now
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions
This draft is going pretty well, I'd say
I love what this means for our d-line (and what it means ultimately for Tatupu) and the Carlson pick makes me smile every time I think of it.
Of course Booty said he wanted to go to Minnesota
They actually need a QB now
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
FYI
Ruskell said the team was thrilled to get the 5th round pick because their was a player that they absolutely wanted in the 5th. Should be an interesting pick.
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Yeah, I'm wondering about that
Ruskell dropping stuff like that gets me excited
You're a font of good information. Serious. I can't keep up with all this stuff and you always bring something interesting.
I’m guessing it’s an OT. There’s a lot of really promising players out there. We know they want a tackle, I’m think Barton or Giacomini.
by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Great, now ESPN is showing us Tom Brady
I hate you, ESPN
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions
I think I'll appreciate it the other million times I get to see Tom Brady
And yet, during the draft, I’d actually like them to talk about the draft, the draft choices, etc.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
No kidding
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
meh.
he was a decent option if he stayed healthy. Good special teams player/would of gotten some carries at the end of the year.
Not defending the trade or anything, but it was no bigge.
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It's funny
how giving up a 5th rounder for a back up RB doesn’t sound like a big deal. But when you’re watching the second day of the draft that missing 5th round pick seems like the end of the world.
Cool, thanks MFAN.
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Count me as surprised by that analysis
How much more fail do you need from Grossman?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
B....bu....b...but Rex led them to the Super Bowl!
Cheeseburgers are delicious.
by Coach Owens on Apr 27, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you on Ainge
I was listening to Mike Martz talk about how far he came in just a few days practice at the Senior Bowl. I know it’s Martz, so take it for what it’s worth, but he was really high on Ainge. He might be a guy that greatly benefits from an NFL coaching staff.
Mike Martz may be certifiably insane but he does know QBs
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
The Saints trade up to draft a DT in front of the Bengals again.
this guy from Army sounds like a great story
not sure how good he is, put I think it would be cool if he was a Seahawk.
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He's gonna be Jacob Green's son-in-law?
That’s AWESOME!
Agreed
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
"though he had to leave the phone for a second because one of the dogs got out of the house"
Hahaha
I love the guy already
Man it's almost guaranteed
that one of schuening, highsmith, Barton or Giacomini will be there at our pick. Keep up the good work ruskell!
This is awesome
My roommate is a 49ers fan and he went to Richmond. He was hoping Tim Hightower would somehow be drafted by the Niners—and the CARDS got him. Hee hee hee.
Hightower seems a bit of a reach, but hey, what do I know?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was hoping for a 6th or 7th round flier
He did have great stats though (but in the CAA).
Don't think they'll take a RB
they could take him in the 7th, but I think they go LB,LB,T,WR in no specific order.
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Holmgren changed his tune a little today
and backed off the no running back thing he said earlier. So I guess there is a chance.
I don't get why so many teams are taking relatively anonymous DTs
And Okam slip-slip-slid all the way into the 5th
Did this turn out to be a great WR draft
from a value stand point? There weren’t many good WRs out there, and they all slipped to the second and third or worse. Some teams are going to come away with some steals. Most of these receivers probably won’t work out, but it’s not like much was spent on any of them.
It defiantly looks like NFL teams have taken note
that WR is a risky pick
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
You have to think some of them will pan out well
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else catch that ESPN thing on Brohm/Henne?
Brohm said he’d had a lot of contact with Seattle, he seemed disappointed when he talked about the Hawks. He seemed just really down in general though.
he probably wants to play right away
he knows going to Seattle would of meant sitting on the bench for at least 2 years.
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He seemed disappointed that Seattle came and went
and he wasn’t the pick, or at least that was the impression I got.
Before he was drafted, he did seem to be excited about his contacts from Seattle
It would seem to be a good opportunity for a young QB… tutor under Holmgren for one year, have Hasselbeck the Dry Comic as your mentor, and if you make it, sit 3rd on a depth chart with an athletic QB/WR as the backup.
It would be a major concession to Holmgren in his last year if they pick a QB at any point today. Certainly they’ll be signing a project UFA either way.
by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I would be down to
If I was a top 10 pick one year. Opted to go back to school and got ditched by your coach and now have been drafted in the 3rd round.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
your right don’t know why I thought the 3rd
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, Dennis Dixon to the Steelers
Think they see him as an Antwaan Randle El?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions
Whats the Steelers overall grade
on QB to WR conversions? Dixon, Randle El, Slash and Ward. About a B?
He does play a mean guitar
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn, was hoping he'd still be there in a few picks
Outside of Chris Long, maybe the best pick the Rams have made so far
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to sound sexist
but who the fuck is this girl on espn talking with michael smith and company?
Coach Owens has no bones
never seen her before
she’s not terrible though, at least she doesn’t mention the Patriots every chance she gets…unlike the rest of them.
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Almost there
I wonder if Ruskell’s guy is still on the board
Good for Tampa to get at least ONE QB
When Jeff Garcia falls apart, they need as many options as possible
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, just heard the phrase "big upside"!
One of my favorites.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
Rob Rang predicts S Corey Lynch
which makes sense, seeing as we’re into the Special Teams level of the draft.
Josh Johnson can throw the ball a mile
but I’m not sure I’d call that a pro style offense that he was running
There goes Erik Ainge to the Jets
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions
I swear they were just playing Leonard Weaver highlights
on the big screen behind the NFL Network setup…
Really? That has to be just a special teams pick...
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
Wow.....I rush home for that?!
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Owen Schimdt!
I am so happy, I thought that was an absolute pipe dream. That adds a lot of toughness to the team
My guess...
They think Leonard Weaver might bail after this season.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
i guess you do need a solid backup at the position
so the RB group looks like…
Jones
Duckett
Morris
Weaver
Schmitt Sports-Pack
by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
John Morgan is the MAN
I have to say that your analysis has been great all along. Your projections of quality at the bottom of 5 is solid. Polian just picks an OLB you tabbed. Keep it up!
So if you're going to pick Schmitt
Why not deal Morris?
Well, I'll say this much
People are gonna love him over time.
I like Schmitt already...
Nice little montage on ESPN, with him bashing himself with his helmet after a 9-yard quick kick.
“Scoring a touchdown is fun… but so is flattening someone with a block”
by Mariner Optimist on Apr 27, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions
Mayock and Kiper
’’Mike Mayock is a star. The NFL targeted a weakness in their competition, Mel Kiper, and have, in little more than a year, put him out to pasture. Say what you will about the NFL, they are ruthless business men.’‘
i was just curious of what this meant? I haven’t followed anything between the two, can anyone tell me what’s goin on there?
Let's go.
well...
ESPN’s coverage sucks balls. NFL Network is far superior in only its second year of existence. It used to be that you had to rely on Mel Kipper jr. for talent evaluations and mocks. He had contacts with agents and GMs. he worked hard. His talent evaluation was flawed and he may have fueled some over-hype of certain payers. Even at ESPN many fans have jumped to Todd McShay as the superior evaluator. I understand that he is better in insider knowledge and statistical assessment. Mayock is better than both. He nailed his mock drafts with incredible accuracy and his talent board matches most good GMs (as evidenced by picks). Basically ESPN is now just a bunch of talking heads and no real substance. And Mel Kipper Jr. is now the football equivalent of Peter Gammons. Why would you pay to read his crap?
Haahahah
They asked Mike Lombardi who was the 2nd day steal. He said Red Bryant.
And the NFLN started playing Dorien Bryant highlights.
If Colt brennan gained 15 pounds of muscle
I don’t think that it would help him that much if his offensive line sucked a lot…
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We got two Schmitts?
Long snapper from San Diego State
man
Left some serious talent on the board… maybe Ruskell thinks his guys will still be there…
Ok Ruskell this is the first pick I don't get.
This guy would have been guaranteed to be in the 7th.
If he ends up being the answer at LS...
then I love it. So far we have guys who all seem to have excellent shots at making the roster.
Here is an overview of his skills
One of only two long-snappers invited to the Combine, Schmitt may lack the bulk scouts prefer at the position, but he is among the best in every other facet of the game. Schmitt, who also practiced at linebacker for the Aztecs, had only two career tackles, but his value lies in his deep snapping accuracy and speed. A four-year starter, Schmitt never had a bad snap on punts or field-goal attempts and generates good speed on his snaps.
Josh Brown is thinking WTF
“Now they draft a guy?!”
JP Darche part deux
Great technique as snapper, but small.
Redskins did a good job in this draft
Surprised that Sean Taylor wasn’t the reason like their comeback against Seattle (which was then squashed).
See ya Shaun.
By "all over"
Do you mean they love it or hate it? Remember, I get ESPN, where they prefer to not talk about actual draft choices.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
They're talking about it a lot
Eisen said it’s crazy, and it is, but they’re making a good point about how long a long snapper can play for. I’d say they’re very perplexed, think it was way too early, but does have value so it’s not just god awful. Basically what everyone is saying here.
Like an earlier commentor said...
It looks like all our picks are so that we can win next year. Nothing we’re looking at is for the future.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no clue what to predict
John Carlson was the only draft choice that I even somewhat saw coming
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
My guess is that Tyler Schmitt was getting lots of calls from teams
Telling him “we’d love to bring you to camp” but not drafting him. Ruskell figured there was enough of a risk of the best LS being taken before he could get him as an undrafted FA. If the argument is “he would still be there in the 7th”, well, how do you know? You don’t, you like him so you pull the trigger. No guarantee they’d be able to sign him as an UDFA so lock him up. Pretty smart, potentially. If this guy’s our LS for the next few years y’all be singing Ruskell’s praises.
Plus, San Diego State guys tend to be sleepers in the draft, then turn into solid, productive pro players (Dan McGuire excepted – not a sleeper). Go Aztecs!! : )
Thank you for mentioning Dan McGuire before we all yelled at you. :)
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
San Diego st.
La’roy Glover, Marhsall Faulk, Brain Russell(!!!)
not a bad little list.
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Will Demps, Kirk Morrison, Kabeer Gbaja-biamila, Kassim Osgood...
Not to mention Don Coryell, John Madden, Joe Gibbs, Herm Edwards, John Fox… : )
by lemonverbena on Apr 27, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Hart and Andre Woodsen...yuck
just don’t see either doing anything in the NFL.
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Well, Woodsen's behind Eli Manning, so I don't see him doing too much at this point
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Just throwing a name out there....
Yvenson Bernard?
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
Dang, Chauncey Washington off the board
to Jax
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Shoot
Wanted him here.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions
I'm sure everyone else already knew this...
but I just found out that Laurence Jackson is about to be the son-in-law of former Seattle great Jacob Green.
That’s pretty cool.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
sweet
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
l love Forsett
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Justin Forsett, very interesting...
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions
just bitch slapping Mock drafts
left and right
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Doubt it
Forsett will probably be on the practice squad.
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Forsett Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOMLaCV8ENo&feature=related
Coach Owens has no bones
Alright, got our next kicker after all
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions
Maybe we can get Silva as a Free agent
maybe even Highsmith
BTW, here are some notes about Coutu
He hit a 58 yarder with little wind before.
Has never missed a PAT.
53/66 overall on FGs with Georgia.
One problem I see in him is his poor kickoffs but other than that it’s a great pick.
See ya Shaun.
The Draft
L. Jackson, DE
J. Carlson, TE
R. Bryant, DT
O. Schmitt, FB
T. Schmitt, LS
J. Forsett, RB
B. Coutu, K
Not a bad haul. Perhaps Carlson is the only likely starter (and maybe Coutu). Not a sexy draft but an effective one I think.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Starters
Maybe Jackson and Bryant aren’t starters, but that classification doesn’t mean all that much with the Hawks’ rotation of players at DT and DE. They should both play lots and contribute this season. T. Schmitt will “start” at LS. O.Schmitt will very likely start at FB.
I think we can get Silva and Highsmith.
Barton got drafted by the Bears
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