Live Blog NFL Draft Day 2
2:05
I gave up on Seattle drafting Washington a while back, so though I think he's a very good value, I'm just happy to see him drafted. Here's what's so cool about working so hard before the draft and looking into so many players, I've begun rooting for some. I may never see Washington outside of the preseason, but I will root for him to kick butt. Generally speaking, I love the preseason. Last year, I could watch Mebane and Taylor on the Hawks and know they had a place in the team's future. This year, I'm going to be able to do that with every team. That's pretty cool.
1:43
How does one lineback? So, anyway, I think the Eagles have had a very good draft. Cards, too. Niners draft looks very poor. Bears, too. Seattle has done many things well, but it frightens me that they - seemingly - fail to see offensive tackle as a need. It's a gamble and one with a serious cost. They need depth at the position, minimum, and I think Barton is a great value here. This is my thinking. Barton had some trouble against the speed rush, but he was a ~4 year starter at OSU. Lock handles the speed rush well. If Seattle can just get someone who can cover for Lock if Lock must move to left, then they're in a much less risky position. But, as-is, we're looking at a decent replacement for Walter Jones should he get hurt, but a huge downgrade at right tackle should Locklear have to sub in for him. C'mon Ruskell, we need this.
1:23
Lots of talent left in the 7th, should make for a mighty interesting round. Which is, you know, kind of crazy when you think about it.
12:49
Boy, Mike Nolan looks like hell.
Moving on, here's 4 talents left I see Seattle targeting with their next pick:
Kirk Barton, LT, OSU
Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU
Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tenn
Jamie Silva, FS, BC
My guess is Barton, but it's impossible to predict. Could be another curveball.
11:24
Great value for Houston. Okam joins a very talented group. He's the perfect compliment to Okoye. In 3 years, we'll be talking about that line as the league's best.
11:09
Okay, so how the hell does Cincinnati take Pat Sims? Have they learned nothing? Sims is a HUGE character concern. If Marvin Lewis can okay Sims with all that franchise has gone through, he's gotta go. That team is too damn talented to be in shambles.
Okay, quick aside. The "Golden Age" myth, the idea that some foregone time was better, specifically more wholesome or virtuous or tough, whatever, is as old as mankind. Chaucer wrote about it in the 13th century. The players of the current NFL are probably slightly better than their antecedents. And only because the NFL has surpassed baseball as the USA's pastime and therefore has better access to premium talent. Otherwise, great players today, great players of yesteryear, can we put this moronic theory to rest?
11:03
Inmates running the asylum in Dallas. Interesting experiment, but I'd buy insurance on the lab. Love to see that team come out 0-3.
10:50
Don't mistake this for sour grapes, but rumor is JDB's hands are smaller than Alex Smith's. I sort of wonder what has happened to Ainge. I know I'm among the few, but I always thought he looked pretty good.
10:32
I'm impressed with that interview with DeSean Jackson. Sure, he looked humbled, but he wasn't mad, wasn't discouraged. For his contributions as a matchup problem and special teams player alone, he's worth a second round pick.
10:22
I don't care what anyone says, the Pats are having a bad draft.
Is Ali Highsmith seriously still out there? Man, c'mon Tim, you know you want this guy.
9:32
Does Millen do anything right? Kevin Smith = Workhorse. Translation: He's been worked to death.
9:14
These guys are getting pretty punchy.
In 2007, it was an exceptionally deep wide receiver draft. Seattle did the hardest thing, wait. Then, in the 6th round they struck. Grabbing a polished player from a big conference, Courtney Taylor, and that absolute rarest of combinations, a supreme talent and true high character individual, Jordan Kent. It was a brilliant move. This year, in an incredibly deep tackle draft, Seattle may be employing the same strategy. Anthony Collins, Geoff Schwartz, Breno Giacomini, Kirk Barton (remember this name) and Barry Richardson, to name a few, one will fall. And Seattle might gain their longterm replacement for Walter Jones in the 4-7 round.
8:55
Mike Mayock is a star. The NFL targeted a weakness in their competition, Mel Kiper, and have, in little more than a year, put him out to pasture. Say what you will about the NFL, they are ruthless business men.
8:49
Manningham runs terrible routes. Terrible. His skill set simply doesn't translate. If he was a mature, hard working player with better speed, then maybe, maybe, some of this praise would be merited. As is, I could see him cut in training camp.
8:44
Well, damn, remember Caldwell before your fantasy drafts. It's looking more and more like Seattle isn't looking at adding a wide receiver. I'm alright with that, I guess. You better step up Bohemian.
So, still some interesting offensive tackles out there. They need a DT, and they need an OT. Safety would be nice. Lots of needs, not too many picks. Time to earn your money, Tim.
8:34
Brad Cottam would be the best tight end in the draft if he had stayed healthy, bullshit. No possible way you can backup that argument.
8:21
Fluellen didn't make plays because has was moved to nose. I haven't talked about it, but Andre Caldwell is still sitting out there. Man, that would be sweet.
8:11
Damn, adios Andre Fluellen. Getting thin at the 3.
8:05
Doucet is a perfect fit for Ken Whisenhunt and the Cardinals. A good draft so far for them. Yeah, I'm shocked.
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So in Jamie Dukes-ology
A power pig is a two-gap DT and not 3 techs?
by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 8:22 AM PDT 0 recs
Yeah, I would be giddy if somehow Caldwell dropped to us.
He reminds me of a young D-Jack.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:28 AM PDT 0 recs
If Manningham keeps dropping...
... any chance the Hawks take him? I’m assuming the character issues are a deal-breaker.
by cyberwulf on Apr 27, 2008 8:29 AM PDT 0 recs
Doubt it.
They dont need Koren v2.0
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
by Christian on
Apr 27, 2008 8:31 AM PDT
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Anyone know if any player trades are whispered to happen today?
thinking of 4th rounders traded for D-Jack/Moss type things.
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:41 AM PDT 0 recs
Someone explain
what Explosive Height Weight Speed is?
against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.
by Christian on Apr 27, 2008 8:52 AM PDT 0 recs
Maybe
he’s still young, so they’re expecting a growth spurt? ;)
by cyberwulf on
Apr 27, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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Justin King to the Rams
I was hoping they’d make another weird pick and they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain.
by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 8:52 AM PDT 0 recs
I personally don't think so
there are bigger needs for the Hawks (T, S, LB, DT) a QB would be nice, but I see them adding depth amongst the other positions with the rest of their picks.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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Booty, Bryant or Anthony Collins
are my hopes with pick 121
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 9:18 AM PDT 0 recs
It'll be awesome when the Browns have no draft picks left in the 2011 draft
The Cowboys are gonna draft an entire team that could’ve been the Browns.
by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 9:44 AM PDT 0 recs
Well they may go defense the rest of the way (well, except for JD Booty)
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 27, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
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Cardinals won this draft..
The division on the other hand.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:51 AM PDT 0 recs
they've done well
but they just reached on a DE with some character concerns.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
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I was hoping we would get Adibi but...
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:53 AM PDT 0 recs
any good safeties available?
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 9:53 AM PDT 0 recs
I've missed a lot
this started earlier than I expected today. Whats left on the board? I see Tashard Choice is around.
by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 9:54 AM PDT 0 recs
And our pick is......
RED BRYANT!! DT!!!
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs
Red Bryant DT from T A&M
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com
by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs
Red Bryant
I don’t really know much about him. He’s a two gap, I assume?
by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs
Apparently our replacement for Rocky Bernard
Is another DT from Texas A&M. Yay us!
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs
Why do we need a RB now?
We have Morris, Duckett, Jones, Weaver. What do you want?
I think we should wait another year.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 9:56 AM PDT 0 recs
Ha I knew it
I’m just going to assume he’ll be awesome
by marinator on Apr 27, 2008 9:57 AM PDT 0 recs
Red Bryant is a beast.
It’s “Jaguars centric”, but I’ve got a prospect preview here that might be of interest.
I love the pick, I really had hoped the Jaguars would try and get him, though I thought he was a 3rd round guy.
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by River City Rage on Apr 27, 2008 9:57 AM PDT 0 recs
Thanks for the great preview.
Well done. Definitely makes me glad for this past pick.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
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Sounds like a good candidate for the Seahawks primary "Run Stuffer"
With Red, Mebane, and if Tubbs can stay healthy we have a good core of young DT’s.
by marinator on
Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
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good piece, thanks for posting this
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
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Why the hell did the Cowboys just take another RB?
Is a 1st Rd pick and Marion Barber not enough depth?
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:00 AM PDT 0 recs
Our defensive line is looking better and better
Maybe we’ll be able to win on the road more than 3 times a year now.
by marinator on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM PDT 0 recs
Anyone game for a WR?
I need someone besides Obumanu.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM PDT 0 recs
A rookie, my friend saw Courtney Taylor at practice before and he says he is awesome
It’s a given once Engram retires.
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on
Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
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Logan Payne and Jordan Kent too
We aren’t exactly without talent at the WR position
by marinator on
Apr 27, 2008 10:05 AM PDT
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Carlson
TE will be more involved this year in the passing game.
I could still see them taking a WR in round 7.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
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My take on the pick is up.
Raiders = “Strictly a science team”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Dear Lord.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA
by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 10:09 AM PDT 0 recs
I heard Mariucci get "scientific" yesterday
and he just spewed a bunch of measurables. In that respect, the Raiders are the most scientific team in the NFL, it’s all about the 40 time.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 27, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
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Their prospects have a lot of measurable "length" and "upside"
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT
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why did Dallas take another back?
I know they are having some contract issues with Barber…but still.
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 AM PDT 0 recs
By the way, I thank Tim Ruskell
for trading our 3rd round pick so I could sleep through the 3rd round. Thank you Timmy! And *c you ESPN for starting at 7 am Pacific.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT 0 recs
so much for trying to edit myself, should just swear more
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT
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Good pick for Indy there with Jacob Tamme
Another good Dallas Clark mold TE.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM PDT 0 recs
The rich keep etting richer
If they ever give an award for drafting it should be named after Polian
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 27, 2008 10:17 AM PDT
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John, if Booty falls to the 5th,
do the ‘hawks take him?
by redwolf75 on Apr 27, 2008 10:18 AM PDT 0 recs
You know, I really don't know.
He fits what they need.
by John Morgan on
Apr 27, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
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Booty would be a great fit
but Ali Highsmith would be an awesome pick in the 5th.
It’s between Booty and Highsmith for me in the 5th, if they are both available.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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Dukes is gonna beat down Mayock
Eisen is chanting fight in the backround
by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 10:22 AM PDT 0 recs
the Patriots can't have a bad draft
they could draft all the posters on this blog and they will still get praised by ESPN snd NFLN.
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM PDT 0 recs
I would make a good special teams player.
No speed, no strength, but HEART
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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Question for those who have NFLN
Has their coverage been significantly better than ESPN? I sure hope so, because ESPN has been abysmal.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:32 AM PDT 0 recs
I think ESPN is taking pride in not actually talking about draft picks
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
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I give them credit
they stick to their guns. It’s been 10 minutes since they’ve talked about the Cowboys and Felix Jones.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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Are there any really good linebackers
that could fall to the 5th/6th?
by redwolf75 on Apr 27, 2008 10:35 AM PDT 0 recs
If schuening, booty, and highsmith fall to our 5th pick,
who do we take?
by redwolf75 on Apr 27, 2008 10:38 AM PDT 0 recs
I'd love to grab Booty (hahah grab booty!)
but Highsmith is the better pick IMO. I don’t think we need a G, even though I like Scuhening.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
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There goes Booty to the Vikings
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
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What are the chances of Marcus Howard
ending up as a Hawk?
by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 10:38 AM PDT 0 recs
Lions take a WR!!!!!!!!
you knew it would happen!
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:40 AM PDT 0 recs
well, Booty = Vikings
I hope that doesn’t mean Tavaris Jackson is done :(
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT 0 recs
I think we're off the clock for QBs now
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT 0 recs
This draft is going pretty well, I'd say
I love what this means for our d-line (and what it means ultimately for Tatupu) and the Carlson pick makes me smile every time I think of it.
by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT 0 recs
What's next? Ruskell taking a no name that ends up being a star?
See ya Shaun.
by SSreporters on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM PDT 0 recs
Of course Booty said he wanted to go to Minnesota
They actually need a QB now
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 10:46 AM PDT 0 recs
FYI
Ruskell said the team was thrilled to get the 5th round pick because their was a player that they absolutely wanted in the 5th. Should be an interesting pick.
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 10:49 AM PDT 0 recs
Yeah, I'm wondering about that
Ruskell dropping stuff like that gets me excited
by Strang on
Apr 27, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
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You're a font of good information. Serious. I can't keep up with all this stuff and you always bring something interesting.
I’m guessing it’s an OT. There’s a lot of really promising players out there. We know they want a tackle, I’m think Barton or Giacomini.
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Apr 27, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
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