Seahawks 7th Round Picks: Justin Forsett, Brandon Coutu
by John Morgan
on Apr 27, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
Justin Forsett, RB, Cal
Basically, Forsett had decent production backing up Marshawn Lynch in Forsett's sophomore and junior seasons before having a pretty strong senior year, though on 305 touches. I'm going to have to look deeper into Forsett to offer much you can't find elsewhere, but his receiving ability intrigues. I put a huge emphasis on pass catching for a back, and Forsett has some of the better potential as a receiver in this year's draft. And, yes, Morris is likely the odd man out.
Brandon Coutu, K, Georgia
Unless I'm missing something, this is a wasted pick. Coutu once had a strong leg but has struggled with hamstring problems and lost critical distance on his kickoffs. Coutu is simply not an improvement over Mare. Really frustrating pick, even if this is the 7th round.
Okay, we'll have to wait and see who Seattle grabs as an NDFA, but unless I see a tackle in there somewhere, I'm prepared to knock them a grade just for that omission. I cannot understand how a team with a win now mentality fails to pick insurance for such and essential position, in such a deep tackle draft.
Preliminary Draft Grade: B-
I'm going to play my own Devil's Advocate for a second, before I get outside for a little bit. I think Seattle needs depth at tackle, I see it as a Need-need. I think that Holmgren's offense has always relied on good pass pro and that Walter Jones was the biggest factor in him signing with Seattle so long ago. But here's something to consider.
Walter Jones has missed 2 games because of injury since his rookie season. Health is a skill. Now, Jones has a chronic shoulder condition that's going to eventually end his career. And he suffers from a kidney condition that prohibits him from taking anything stronger than Tylenol, but...
I can't do it. It's madness. It's just too risky, too risky to not insure against your thinnest position, an essential position on any offense, in a historically deep tackle class. I'll tell you this, if Jones stays healthy all season, no matter if he holds his slightly inferior play from last year, it will be his finest season as a pro. Because, damnit, his team needs him like it never has. And legends do this kind of thing.
Make me believe Mr. Jones.
I need some fresh air. I'll check back when the NDFAs are announced.
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What about Alexis Serna from Oregon State? He’s small, but I’d like to have him brought in to challenge Mare as well if nobody drafts him.
by NYCeahawks on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM PDT 0 recs
Very disappointing...
Barton was still available, Erin Henderson (LB) was available, quite a few decent wideouts (Arrington, Monk), and we take a crap kicker and a RB we probably don’t need…
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 27, 2008 3:16 PM PDT 0 recs
Crap Kicker
anything to back that up or are you just upset that the players you liked weren’t taken?
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 27, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
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Sorry, let me clarify...
I meant that he’s just a big question mark…Yeah, we all know about his strong leg but unless he’s healthy, we don’t really know what we’re getting. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not big on drafting on potential. It seems like Coutu is (as far as drafting a rookie kicker in the 7th round goes) a high-risk, high-reward pick. Even though Mare isn’t the best kicker, I feel like an O-lineman would be a better pick here…
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Apr 27, 2008 4:20 PM PDT
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Once they got into the 5th round, which tackle in your estimation should have been the pick? And do you consider him better than Wrotto?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 3:16 PM PDT 0 recs
I don't have any inside info on Wrotto.
He exited college a lump coal. I like his potential, but tackle seems like a reach. He could make an athletic if unrefined guard, or maybe a utility linemen. Steve Vallos is the Hawks current utility lineman, but he’s barely hanging onto the roster. The word is, the team is very high on Ray Willis. I think the current plan is to move Locklear to left tackle and Willis to right tackle when the time comes. Willis looked ok at right in the preseason, but really just okay. Seattle doesn’t have a ton of weapons, so a serious hit to the offensive line would badly screw up this offense.
by John Morgan on
Apr 27, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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Ray Willis is the key...
...I think.
If the team was already high on him AND we’re expecting Solari to help Spencer meet his potential, wouldn’t also be fair to conclude that they expect the same to occur with Willis?
This may have also played into their decision not to have Willis take over for Gray. They knew he was destined to be play RT for a long time in the not-too-distant future.
by skijake1 on
Apr 27, 2008 5:42 PM PDT
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I wonder if Coutu stick with #96, cause that would be awesome
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 3:20 PM PDT 0 recs
LoJack is #96, i think he would probably get it over the kicker.
Plus there are probably number restrictions for kickers.
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 27, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Unless Seattle has a cure for his hamstrings...
I don’t think it’s ever going to matter. This is one of those circumstance where I sincerely hope Tim Ruskell and company know something I don’t, because Coutu looks like a straight to the dumpster wasted pick.
by John Morgan on
Apr 27, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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Well, if they use the Reyes rejuvenation machine on his hamstrings...
he becomes a pretty damn good kicker that the team still could have signed as an NDFA.
by John Morgan on
Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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I'm pretty sure they must know something about him.
Ruskell wouldn’t be that dumb.
by redwolf75 on
Apr 27, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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Like John said
its hard to give a final grade until they go through the FA period. But there looks to be some talent left out there minus LT.
Coach Owens has no bones
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 27, 2008 3:23 PM PDT 0 recs
I think Ruskell is kind of thinking that if you want to pick a LT for the future..
Why waste it on a late pick who might not stick when you could wait a year and get one in RD1 or 2 who will be more of a sure thing
by ASUBoyd on Apr 27, 2008 3:24 PM PDT 0 recs
It's not so much they need a OT of the future...
they need depth so they can avoid a Milford Brown type situation.
by John Morgan on
Apr 27, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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I guess they feel comfortable with what they can get in the FA market.
I just hate to think there is no method to the assumed madness.
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 27, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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I would have liked to have seen at OT and a S
Let’s see what the UFA’s bring
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT 0 recs
Damn
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on
Apr 27, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
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Here we go.
Coutu:
“He has hamstring problems the last few years, but he said that was not the case. He said he injured the leg trying an onside kick technique that “I will never use again.” But he said the leg is fine now.”
by redwolf75 on Apr 27, 2008 3:40 PM PDT 0 recs
Well, Hefney is still around. Make it happen Tim Ruskell.
I’m too worked up.
by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2008 3:43 PM PDT 0 recs
Wonder who...
Ruskell’s priority FAs will be…
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by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2008 3:44 PM PDT 0 recs
No Barton, no Monk = No Truskell
Yeah its premature, but this just has all of the signs of a poor draft…we reached for some picks, and we didn’t draft at positions where there was depth (tackles)
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 27, 2008 3:45 PM PDT 0 recs
The next week will be pretty interesting
Some big mock draft names still out there. This is where Seattle becoming a more desirable destination will help us out.
by Strang on Apr 27, 2008 3:46 PM PDT 0 recs
ESPN.com's writeup of our new kicker
“He has the strongest leg of any kicker in the draft and is also the best overall kicker in this class. He has the best chance of any kicker this year of handling field goals and kickoffs at the next level”
by ASUBoyd on Apr 27, 2008 3:51 PM PDT 0 recs
Allow me to retort: # of touchbacks by Georgia in 2007: 1
ESPN, so inaccurate that it’s a source of misinformation.
by John Morgan on
Apr 27, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
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That doesn't mean he doesnt have a strong leg.
He hit FGs over 50 yards last year with a long of 52. It could be the way he was kicking the ball.
by ASUBoyd on
Apr 27, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
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doesn anyone know when we can start taking undrafted free-agents?
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 4:04 PM PDT 0 recs
Barry Richardson, Silva, Hefney and Highsmith didn't get drafted
hopefully 1 or more of them is brought in.
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 4:13 PM PDT 0 recs
Lets bring this into perspective
Everyone is pretty upset right now over 7th round picks. Would we have felt so much better about our OT situation if we’d spent that pick on Barton instead of Forsett? Maybe there is a reason why every team passed on some of these players.
by Nate Dogg on Apr 27, 2008 4:14 PM PDT 0 recs
and lets not forget about June 1st cuts either
we are talking about backups here, I’m sure we can find stop gaps in case of injuries.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 27, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
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I do agree
and honestly a 7th round tackle would of likely been behind Ray Willis on depth chart anyways. I would still like to see a tackle brought in by free agency though.
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by MFAN on
Apr 27, 2008 4:18 PM PDT
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Right
there is no doubt that some depth is needed, but we’re souring on this draft because of 6th and 7th round picks and thats kind of silly.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 27, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
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Not as silly as you might think
The reason we’re souring on these 6th and 7th round picks is because there was higher round talent available…Granted, you were probably still right when you said there might be some reason every team passed on these prospects…
by SeaTownBlueDevil on
Apr 27, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
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Tubbs still "a ways off" and they are concerned about his ability to play football again
per John Marshall’s post-draft interview.
by ASUBoyd on Apr 27, 2008 5:09 PM PDT 0 recs
well, looks like we added a Tackle
http://blogs.chron.com/cougars/2008/04/quick_signs_with_denver.html
according to his teams website, he started at RT last season.
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 5:21 PM PDT 0 recs
More good news
Ruskell said the team will announce their undrafted free-agents tonight, and they will grab a lot of T,LB and WR’s.
http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2008/04/27/p25071#more25071
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by MFAN on Apr 27, 2008 5:33 PM PDT 0 recs
Here are free agents Seattle signed
Seattle announced they agreed to terms with the following players, who were undrafted free agents: S Jamar Adams (Michigan), CB Donovan Alexander (North Dakota), WR Travis Brown (New Mexico), WR Michael Bumpus (Washington State), LB Matt Castelo (San Jose State), C Dustin Dickinson (Houston), CB DeMichael Dizer (Grambling), LB David Hawthorne (Texas Christian), S Kelin Johnson (Georgia), T Williams Robinson (San Diego State), WR Anthony Russo (Washington) and S Eric Wicks (West Virginia).
This is from Seahawk Addicts
by xSAMx on Apr 27, 2008 5:48 PM PDT 0 recs
In regards to drafting a OT this year...
Call me an ignorant fool – and you’d have a good argument – but there’s potentially an upside to not drafting an offensive tackle this year.
Since this draft was “historically deep” as you say, that means many many teams are filling up their tackle needs for the years to come. That means next year, with our likely bottom-third first-round pick, we might land a top-end offensive tackle that would otherwise be taken in the top 10. All of the teams that would possibly draft this tackle have already filled their needs with this year’s draft.
Now I’m not saying this a good thing for this year, or that I’m even right about next, but I’d personally rather have a 1st-round caliber LT as my Jones replacement than a sixth or seventh (with regards to the talent there this year, probably still not as good as next year’s top guys).
by torx on Apr 27, 2008 5:48 PM PDT 0 recs
Are we even sure how great this draft was for T?
The things I saw on draft day for Clady and Williams did not look good at all.
by Nate Dogg on
Apr 27, 2008 7:03 PM PDT
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You make a good point
All of the good first round tackles including Sam Baker were taken BEFORE the Seahawks picked in the first round. It would’ve been an extreme reach to take one in the first or even with their 38th pick. What I liked about this draft is Ruskell took players that project to actually PLAY this year, and some might even excel THIS YEAR. Of course this doesn’t count their 7th round picks, the kicker (who has hammy problems), and the RB. The rest of the picks will probably get a good amount of playing time this year and that is exactly what the Seahawks need if you’re going to try to go for it, and win the Superbowl. Their defensive line was addressed with a capital “A”, the TE situation was addressed, the LS situation was addressed, and the FB situation looks to be very solid now paving the way for Duckett, Jones, Weaver, and possibly Morris (but he’ll be traded).
The only weaknesses on this team currently are tackle depth with Willis and Porkchop the only backups to Big Walt and Locklear, WR concerns with Hackett gone and Branch out until mid season, linebacker depth, and Brian Russell. None of these are glaring weaknesses, and can be addressed with picking up someone cheap, or through trades (Morris for ???).
I go into this season with high hopes and a positive attitude. Win one for the Walrus indeed. GO HAWKS!!
by marinator on
Apr 28, 2008 7:14 AM PDT
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What about PS guy Matt Williams
How did he progress… seems he was a decent player at SC. I was hoping Giacomini would fall to us… Ted Thompson knows us too well.
by kidder95 on Apr 28, 2008 9:21 AM PDT 0 recs
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