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Seahawks Draft: Round By Round Grades With Final Grade

Here we go, round by round grades. For each pick, I’ll list the players I saw as the best value available, with consideration for overall talent but also the premium of the position and the upgrade from existing talent for Seattle. As always, this is my opinion. I try to make it as informed and supported as I can, but this isn’t meant as gospel or an attempt to shout down disagreement.

28: Lawrence Jackson

Best Value: Kenny Phillips, Lawrence Jackson, Phillip Merling, Brian Brohm

It would have warmed the cockles of my heart for Seattle to draft Philips and be done with Brian Russell, but it’s clear Tim Ruskell drafts his defenses from the inside out. In his 4 drafts and 30 picks, Ruskell has only drafted two DBs. It’s not that I think he devalues the secondary, only that he values experience. Merling is an excellent athlete, but his résumé pales compared to Jackson’s. Given their comparative health, experience, character and level of competition, Jackson was definitely the safer pick.

Notes: Seattle traded their 25th pick for Dallas’ 28th, 163rd and 235th picks.

Grade: A

Defensive end is a premium position, and given Patrick Kerney’s age and Seattle’s defensive scheme, this pick satisfied my every criteria: Value, Need, Fit and Downside. Jackson is lot like Kerney, actually. Both aren’t considered top flight edge rushers, but both are non-stop, smart and have the size and strength to anchor against the run as well as rush the passer. Adding Jackson has fringe benefits, too. Darryl Tapp is the team’s foremost edge rusher, but comes with scheme disadvantages. Namely, he vacates outside containment with Freeney-like gusto. In a reserve/rotation role, Tapp is an excellent situational pass rusher and has headache inducing versatility playing the short zone in Fire Zone blitzes.

38: John Carlson

Best Value: Trevor Laws, DeSean Jackson, Brian Brohm

Carlson just misses the cut, mostly because tight ends as a rule have a limited period of effectiveness. I graded Carlson as a solid first round talent, though, so it’s debatable. Folks around here know my fondness for Laws' game, but Seattle found better value at DT in the 4th – not that we knew this then. I still can’t believe Jackson’s slide. Funny how groupthink pervades the NFL. I saw Jackson as a top 5 talent and think Philadelphia found an absolute steal in the mid-second round. It’ll be interesting to see how he functions in Andy Reid’s somewhat Holmgrenesque offense and wonder what could have been. Seattle didn’t see WR as a need and I don’t blame them. Brohm fell to Green Bay. The Packers loaded up on offense, though their defense is more in need of young talent.

Notes: Seattle traded their 86th pick to Baltimore to move up from 55.

Grade: A-

Certainly the most controversial pick, I don’t doubt Carlson’s ability, only if he was worth both a second and third round pick. That third round pick likely cost Seattle an offensive tackle. It could be argued that Carlson is the best tight end Mike Holmgren has ever coached. Odd, then, that we might finally see just how valuable the position is in his final season coaching. I might grade this pick lower, it’s hard to stomach the value lost in moving up, but with New Orleans eyeing Carlson at 40 and Craig Stevens off the board a pick before Seattle’s selection in the 3rd, missing Carlson could have meant trotting out Jeb Putzier and Will Heller in week 1. Though I don’t know that Ruskell knew Tennessee would take Stevens, I imagine he’s still close with Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt and had some sense how much they valued him. I started by giving this pick a C, but the more I think, the more I think Carlson will be a special player for Seattle. His route running is superb. He aces my criteria of Need, Fit and Downside, and though I’m not fond of trading picks, Carlson is likely the best tight end talent to enter the draft since Heath Miller. When one considers that, Carlson’s polish and ability to contribute immediately to a franchise thinking "win now", his relative value becomes apparent. It’s been a slow process coming around to this pick, but one I don’t think I’ll regret.

121: Red Bryant

Best Value: Red Bryant, Tashard Choice, Keenan Burton, Frank Okam

I was obviously very high on Bryant, listing him as my best value defensive tackle of the 3rd round – but not for every team. I’ll elaborate on that in a second. I fully believe that Tashard Choice will end up more valuable than the Cowboys’ first round pick, Felix Jones. Keenan Burton is (another) great example of how much more volatile mock drafts are then the real thing. Burton became a favorite value pick for bloggers the world over after more than one "expert" predicted he would fall as far as the 7th, but c’mon. He’s polished, played in the SEC and blew out the combine. Okam is a great talent that has concerns about his effort. Many organizations would prefer a miscreant to a loafer.

Grade: A+

Frank Hughes described Bryant as country. Read: Naïve. Bryant was a model of inconsistency at Texas A&M, easily neutralized against Texas, but drawing true triple teams against Oklahoma. Previewing Bryant I wrote:

Bryant looks like a first round talent, but plays like an NDFA. Because of this, Bryant wins the duel distinctions of the Memorial Baraka Atkins Project Pick and the Someone's Gonna Need To Kick This Kid In The Ass awards.

Bryant and Atkins have something very much in common, great talent. Atkins is a project both because he exited college lax in his prep and play and because he lacked (lacks) great football skills. Bryant is a little farther along. Both could be starters, and damn good ones, by 2010.

163: Owen Schmitt

Best Value: Chauncey Washington, Barry Richardson, John Sullivan

It’ll be interesting to see what becomes of Washington. It shouldn’t be forgotten that it took injury and luck for Ryan Grant to finally start. Washington is six feet under the Jags depth chart and will have to do everything right in training camp, preseason and make an impact on special teams to even make the roster. Kinda stupid, really. Richardson was once considered a first round talent. I still don’t know why he fell so far. Sullivan is a fine center if you accept that’s all he’ll ever be.

Grade: C

That’s a prove-it-to-me "C". I don’t like picks whose hype trumps their accomplishments. I’d rather one that I know will contribute, not one with a cool nickname, good quote, good story and raucous nightlife. I think Schmitt’s got a shot, a shot to be real good, but I’m not convinced. And I certainly don’t see how fullback trumps offensive tackle, wide receiver, center or linebacker for upgrade over existing talent. It seems like Ruskell has been chasing a fullback forever. Leonard Weaver may not be the blocker Schmitt is, I don’t know not having seen much of Schmitt, but I’d imagine he’s a better rusher and receiver. For those who argue that it’s the fifth round and nabbing a starter at all is something, one, Schmitt’s a fullback, and, two, there’s no guarantee he’ll start. Nevertheless, despite my profuse critiques, I want Schmitt to succeed. I like the guy and his potential as a blocker definitely exceeds Weaver’s.

Pick 189: Tyler Schmitt

Best Value: Washington, Jonathan Hefney, Ali Highsmith

This would have been a hell of a time to grab depth at safety and linebacker.

Grade: B+

Anything great ever done was once heckled, and for a second I’ll impersonate the mob. Every team in college employs a long snapper of some kind. This summer, literally dozens will graduate and nearly every one would sell their siblings into slavery for a shot at the NFL. Schmitt might be the greatest long snapper ever born, with a mechanized arm and a laser guided sight in his ass, but he still isn’t that much more valuable than any one of those dozens who won’t require a draft pick. It’s inconceivable, as in outside the limits of my imagination, that Schmitt will do anything so extraordinary for Seattle’s special teams to merit this pick.

Back to me. In the NFL, serviceable talent at linebacker and safety can be signed through free agency. Those players are almost without exception better than the talent available in the 6th round. San Diego State had only 13 punt returns despite punting the ball 73 times. They’re punter isn’t considered a special talent and like most fringe 1-A teams, they’re special teams isn’t particularly stacked. Regardless of his position, Schmitt is a talent that simply would not be available outside of the draft. Every year, games are won and lost because of special teams play – and not just the flash. Sound punts, good holds, good directional kicking and clutch field goals. This pick is about stocking Seattle’s roster with top talent at every position. Last season, the DVOA difference between the league’s top special teams, the Bears (9.1%), and the league’s worst, the Colts (-6.1%), equaled the DVOA difference between the Cowboys rushing attack (5.3%) and the Seahawks (-9.9%). Chew on that. Remember, everyone derides the kicker, punter, long snapper, until they need him.

Pick 233: Justin Forsett

Best Value: Highsmith, Hefney, Kirk Barton

Highsmith signed with the Cardinals. Cuntishy buncha Buzzsaw mothe…

Grade: B+

I like Forsett. Some might think calling him a very late career Edgerrin James is a slight, but I disagree. James can play and Forsett retains a good bit more speed. It’ll be interesting to see what the pint-sized power back can do in the preseason. The simple fact that his game should translate elevates him above the Marquis Weeks and Reggie Bushes of the world. Rescued of regular duty, he might even see an uptick in speed.

Pick 235: Brandon Coutu

Best Value: See Above

Grade: B-

I maintain convinced that Coutu is not an improvement over Olindo Mare. But I understand insuring against a collapse. Collectively, Mare and Coutu gives Seattle a very good shot at a very good kicker. That’s nothing to scoff at. I just wish it didn’t cost a pick that could have been used elsewhere.

Final Grade: A

My initial grade was an "A-". I decided that I’d drop that a whole letter grade if Seattle failed to sign an offensive tackle. I think now that Seattle really just needs depth at tackle and that doesn’t require a draft pick. Now, if I were drafting, I would have found a developmental tackle somewhere. That’s not an appropriate way to evaluate a draft, though. The closest thing to a peer Walter Jones has is probably Willie Roaf. Roaf played at a very high level until he was 36. Should Jones plateau at his current ability, that would give Seattle 3 more seasons of stability at the blindside. Maybe by then Will Robinson will look more like a tackle than a tight end. Anyway, depth at tackle can be acquired through free agency, or, and this will sound absurd coming from me, Floyd Womack should he join the cause and hit the weight room. He’s only 29.

My final grade is an "A". My reasoning is really quite simple. Seattle was able to attain 3 first round talents, a high upside fullback, a can’t miss long snapper, a pro able running back and strengthen their kicking game. Lawrence Jackson was so good for so long he became a bit of a forgotten man at USC. I believe his intelligence and total package athleticism could propel him into the upper echelon of defensive ends in the NFL. Aaron Kampman/Jared Allen territory. Where another team might have seen defensive end as a non-need, with their starting ends combining for 21.5 sacks in 2007, Seattle correctly evaluated Kerney’s probability of decline and Tapp’s potential as a non-starter regular. In the second round Seattle drafted a surefire first round talent whose stock had been devalued for all the wrong reasons. Antonio Gates couldn’t have produced on Notre Dame’s miserable excuse for an offense. Carlson wasn’t just the best talent at tight end in this draft, he’s the most talented tight end to enter the NFL since Heath Miller. Holmgren never needed a top tight end to get production out of the position, but I’m excited to see what he can do now that he has one. Red Bryant might be wasted on almost any other team in the NFL. The gee-shucks kid from places small and dusty could have been a Bengal or, God forbid, Cowboy. Another wasted 4th round pick. But in Seattle, with a class bunch of guys, Bryant’s silly athleticism - a little greater than what Kentwan Balmer is fabled to possess - will be alloyed with a peerless strength and conditioning program and honed by great coaches and the good kind of peer pressure. Owen Schmitt has much to prove and somewhat suspect athleticism, but venerable work ethic and epic ferocity. I’m not sure Seattle needed him, but hope he proves me foolish for doubting. Tyler Schmitt might just be a long snapper, but repeat that to me when the Hawks are wracking up safeties. Justin Forsett will be around long after faster, more hyped backs have faded and Brandon Coutu could be everything you want in a kicker, cheap with a strong leg. Like last year, it’s not how I would have drafted, but then, it’s better.

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I am really intruiged by Atkins/Bryant now

It sounds like Bryant will join Atkins, vanishing into the putrid abyss of the 3rd string this year in slumber while being reforged in wait for a triumphant re-emergence, vanquishing the forces of evil. Or sacking QBs. One of the two.

I disagreed with you about docking a grade for the lack of Tackles drafted so I’m happy to see that change.

I also want to say that this Owen Schmitt bandwagon sounds a little silly. Let’s wait for this “Runaway Beer Truck” to do some amazing things at the NFL level before starting a cult of personality.

by Will Kier on May 7, 2008 7:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no

the “I’m too smart to like Owen Schmitt” crowd is already forming.

by Nate Dogg on May 7, 2008 7:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good write up.

I am with you on everything but Schmitt, a player I think will be a great asset.

If you read what Haskell and Holmgren said about Weaver, they are not giving up on him. They just said they needed someone else because Weaver got “worn down last season.” Holmgren also said he thinks Weaver will “take the next step this year”. So obviously they feel there is a place for both of them on the team. If Schmitt could turn into a Mack Strong or Lorenzo Neal type player that would be great. He also has some solid speed for a guy his size. I think he will be great, hard worker, will probably be liked by his teammates a lot.

by ASUBoyd on May 7, 2008 8:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great work, John

My fan-life is sooooo much better because of your blog.

by skijake1 on May 7, 2008 9:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

Will there be NFC West draft profiles? You’ve been a little grumbly about the Cardinals.

by Will Kier on May 7, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

John, I thoroughly enjoy your site and the work you put in.

Especially now that my Mariners are stinking up the joint…grumble

I find that my interest in Seahawks Football (and football in general, actually) has increased DRAMATICALLY since I started visiting FG regularly. Keep up the great work!

by misterjonez on May 8, 2008 12:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking rec'd.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phildopip on May 8, 2008 8:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Schmitt

equals Corey Schlesinger with a bad attitude and hands.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on May 8, 2008 8:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seahawks Draft: Round By Round Grades With Final Grade

The comments were of some value. However, the grading system was far less so. If the Hawks’ draft deserves an A, I can’t possibly imagine what grades you would give those teams that had far better drafts. To say that Bryant “could” be a starter underscores that. Every pick in the range of number 121 in all drafts deserves the label “could” be a starter. By extension then every similar pick would deserve an A+. In addition, this analysis just spewed back the Kirkland party line with no critic to the contrary. While possible this is not probable from an “objective” analysis. We know that the Hawks PR department one an award. Whatever they do sure seems to have influenced Morgan.

Until the NFL allows a team to put an extra RB on the field (if that happens would Seattle then have a 13th man?) or allows two to carry the ball at once; four backups still do not equate to one quality feature back. Once again the vaunted Hawks PR machine keeps spinning and now is reversing the party "line" which you seem to have swallowed hook, line and s(t)inker. The Hawks previously confirmed that it was no secret that had any of Stewart, Mendenhall or Jones fell their way they would have pick him in Round 1. The rush end chosen was the best player "still" available – sort of a consolation prize. It sure would have been nice to switch places just above with the Steelers – imagine the gushing coming out of Kirkland and by extension the John Morgans of this world, if the story lines were about Mendenhall and Sweed and not Jackson and Carlson. Then a FB and LS are taken when both were probably available in FA. While Bryant make turn out to be the second coming of Haynesworth he equally could be a total dud – which is where most analysts put him a big ???? which you deem worthy of an A+.

John, the least you could do is tell us just what was the flavor of that KoolAid, Ruskell’s PR people are peddling.

But, still you give an “A” grade overall

by bigmaq on May 8, 2008 10:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Hawks previously confirmed that it was no secret that had any of Stewart, Mendenhall or Jones fell their way they would have pick him in Round 1.

Source? I never saw anything like this. I’ll let John speak for himself re: the rest of your comments, but I will say I think you’re showing a bit of ignorance regarding John’s draft philosophy.

by sammy on May 8, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy has made 2 comments.

Take that with a grain of salt.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on May 8, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, seriously

And if I’m not mistaken Ruskell actually said Jackson was the guy they wanted all along.

FREE JEREMY REED!!

by MFAN on May 8, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what should have been done then?

John’s Kirkland bias isn’t any secret, but if you’re so unhappy with the draft I’d love to hear what you think should have happened. And it’s great to say trade up and grab so and so but how would you have made that happen? Personally I’m glad that they didn’t get Sweed.

And lets not undervalue what Ruskell has done for this team. Before 2005 this team hadn’t won a playoff game in 21 years. They’ve won 4 in the last 3. There have been a lot of things that have gone into that (the level of competition in the NFC West and the NFC in general), but there are worse things to be than a Ruskell Believer.

by Nate Dogg on May 8, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

This guy copied and pasted almost the exact same rant into a random Seahawks Insider post from Frank Hughes transcribing a Holmgren interview, except he accused Frank of drinking Kool Aid. John should be honored that bigmaq bothered to slightly personalize this.

by Will Kier on May 11, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Previous comment

Should have read: “won” an award.

by bigmaq on May 8, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They were never going to pick Medenhall, Stewart, or Jones.

Not after signing Duckett and Jones.

Have you watched the NFL in the past few seasons? The “featured back” days are over. Every team with a successful running game goes with more than one look in the backfield. There is a reason the Chiefs drafted Jamaal Charles when they have Larry Johnson and the Cowboys drafted Jones when they have Barber.

by ASUBoyd on May 8, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well to be honest

Larry Johnson is never happy and Barber is not an every down back period. I think the better arguement is that with todays game you need to have a good back up. Essentially every team needs to have a 1b option to achieve a high level of success.

This is not an arguement, featured back days should be over. The days of the Jags of Taylor, Drew, and Washington is coming. Just that teams that who keep their top back rested tend to do well. Dont tell that to the Giants though.

against Vegas reliever Casey Hoorelbeke, whose ancestors clearly couldn't spell Hurlbeck properly.

by Christian on May 8, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

John doesn't need us to defend him...

so I won’t defend his grades. I will merely say that John spells out his criteria for grades when grading Jackson (”...this pick satisfied my every criteria: Value, Need, Fit and Downside.”) and provides a rationale for his take on each pick. So, it’s not enough to say you didn’t like his grades or that he drank someone’s Kool-Aid. Rather, spell out what your criteria are and who you would have selected instead.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on May 8, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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