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Seahawks Training Camp Report: 7/28

Update II:

Talkin' Hawks

This merits mentioning...

INJURY REPORT
The training staff is shutting down Pro Bowl defensive end Patrick Kerney until his strained left calf heels. The calf has bothered Kerney since the first practice Friday morning, and it acted up again at the start of the Sunday morning practice.

because fans should expect nagging injuries and a decline in play from Patrick Kerney in 2008. That doesn't mean he won't be good. That doesn't mean he can't be great. Kerney defied expectations last season. It means we shouldn't let one great season create a new baseline for expectations going forward. Kerney is 31, and even before tearing his pectoral in 2006, had recorded just 11 sacks in his previous 25 games. At that rate, that's about 7 sacks over 16 games. I'd be satisfied if Kerney can do that in 2008.

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Update: The rest of the reports roll in with smidgen left to be said.

Seahawks Blog:

Courtney Taylor's hamstring is not pulled. It's not tweaked. It's not dinged or any of those other words that football coaches throw around to imprecisely diagnose an injury.

Taylor's hamstring is tight, however, which is why coach Mike Holmgren said the receiver was taking it easy toward the end of Monday's morning practice.

Meh. This will be the story with Taylor, unfortunately; he's talented and skilled but takes more than his share of bumps. And suffers. Hopefully his game won't suffer when it matters. This sounds precautionary and I expect Taylor back tomorrow.

Seahawks Insider:

Newly signed Bryan Gilmore also had a tough day, dropping a few passes, including one on a deep flag pattern.

Methinks it's his hands.

Owen Schmitt's feistiness came out on one play when he continued to block Brian Russell and the two got into a minor scuffle, slapping each other in the helmet a few times before separating. This is what Schmitt is going to make his name doing, antagonistic toughness. He also caught a swing pass and lumbered through the secondary, David Hawthorne bouncing off him when they made contact.

This stinks of perfunctory Owen Schmitt coverage. Well, you asked for it. He got into a fight with Brian Russell and "lumbered" into z-string linebacker David Hawthorne. We all want Schmitt to be great because he's a Hawk and because he does stupid thing like thrash his head with his helmet, but let's let Schmitt be great before we call for reports of his greatness.

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To be updated as reports roll in.

Dave Bolling is first in with a look at one-on-one blocking drills.

In the past, only Mack Strong had much luck. The drill this year was a real eye-opener. Leonard Weaver stonewalled Lofa Tatupu, and then absolutely flat-backed Leroy Hill. I know, I know ... you don't believe it. Brothers and sisters, I saw it with my own eyes.

Everybody knows Weaver has some rushing and receiving talents, but the challenge for Weaver was to block. And if he didn't learn how, he wasn't going to get much time on the field. It's obvious he's taken this challenge head on. Julius Jones then did a great job against Julian Peterson.

Unfortunately, pass blocking wasn't really Weaver's weakness and he displayed significant prowess last season. Weaver's weakness is run blocking, specifically squaring up and exploding into a block while on the move. So, while it's good to see Weaver kicking ass pass blocking, that's not the stride he needs to take.

The guy who really showed up was back T.J. Duckett, who may have had his best practice as a Seahawk. He looked very strong up the middle...

As I've said, as long as Duckett does enough in training camp and in the preseason to be trusted with carries, he'll produce. After all the brouhaha about Justin Forsett looking better than Duckett in mini-camps, it's encouraging to see someone recognize that a quick, scatback out of pads is probably going to outperform a bruising interior rusher in non-contact drills, but it doesn't mean Duckett is slow or destined to be cut.

Logan Payne continues to be a real training camp star.

Payne is undoubtedly an excellent practicer, but the fawning over his play is betrayed by some simple facts. Whenever questioned about Seattle's four young wide receivers and who will emerge, the answer is almost always Courtney Taylor. Then Ben Obomanu. Then mention of Jordan Kent's athleticism/pedigree/growth as a wide receiver. Then praise about Payne. Not Payne will produce, just praise.

Payne didn't produce last preseason. If we look at all passes targeting Payne, 8, and then apply "The Hidden Game of Football" adjusted yards per attempt  (pass yards + 10*(pass TD) - 45*(interceptions thrown))/(passing attempts) formula, Payne tallied -1.25 yards per target. Payne wasn't targeted in Seattle's final two preseason games.

Despite being highly polished, Payne spent all of 2007 on the practice squad. Before the playoffs, Seattle signed him off the practice squad, but despite Payne suffering no injuries and the Seahawks suffering many, was never targeted or even activated.

Payne is your classic hard working, humble, white guy overachiever that gets mad pub around practice time but struggles to make the club. I wish him all the luck in the world, hope he proves me wrong-wrong, but for those expecting Payne to explode on the NFL this season, you're probably deluding yourselves.

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ah, god bless training camp

finally some constant seahawks news. I like these rundowns, and I clicked through all the articles to see the originals.

It’s good to hear some positive press for our quartet of receivers. If just one or two of them (evidently Taylor and Obomanu) can make the big leap this year that will relieve a lot of concerns. Also good to hear some considered thought about Owen Schmitt.

by Will Kier on Jul 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT   0 recs

I appreciate that you clicked through.

I’m indebted to these reporters for the hard work they do. I’ve never bought into the the us versus them attitude about bloggers and journalist. They have access and in turn I have independence. It’s easy for me to speak freely about Owen Schmitt, but, then, I don’t have to face him tomorrow.

by John Morgan on Jul 28, 2008 3:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Do you expect as much of a decline from Kerney

considering the improvements along the line? LoJack, Bryant and Tubbs should make life a little easier on him.

by Nate Dogg on Jul 28, 2008 3:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes.

We also must factor in the chump-squad he tallied 9 sacks against.

Fred Miller: 3
Rob Pettiti: 3
Levi Brown: 3

I’m pretty sure Miller and Pettiti didn’t finish their respective contests as a tackle substitution appears in both gamebooks, and only Brown is still a starter. Brown was also a rookie. Kerney could play just as well and look worse because of the competition.

I think Kerney is in for a dip, I think he’ll be good, but I think he could miss time and I don’t think he’ll top 10 sacks. But the improvements you spoke of should more than offset that loss.

by John Morgan on Jul 28, 2008 4:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed on Kerney and Payne

Funny how numbers (Kerney’s sacks) end up becoming the summation of a season. Those 3-fer games made his season, otherwise he was good but not great. I agree that he will dip and likely miss some time this year. Fortunately, Ruskell seems to have anticipated this as well.

I have to admit I didn’t know Payne was white until earlier today, and now I understand why the local media have covered him so favorably. I expect you’re right that not much will come of it by September 7.

Keep up the good work, John. I really enjoy the blog!

by delawareburn on Jul 28, 2008 7:22 PM PDT   0 recs

oh weird. and surprisingly

jordan kent might be arabic. not exactly groundbreaking but nonetheless Something I Didn’t Know This Morning.

I guess I never have a reason or the chance to see practice squad players

by Will Kier on Jul 28, 2008 9:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All the sidelined players

are making me nervous. Kerney, ok. Walt, the usual. They’ll be there. Branch… who knows. Will Herring? PUP for an uknown joint condition doesn’t sound good. And Center… both Spencer and Old Man Gray out.

We just seem kind of thin at a few positions.

by lemonverbena on Jul 29, 2008 8:56 AM PDT   0 recs

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