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Seahawks Training Camp Report: 7/31 (PM)

Looks like Bryant is the first wounded, but I'm not too concerned.

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Bummer. As in, rookie defensive tackle Red Bryant might need arthroscopic surgery to repair damage to his left knee.

Nothing is certain at this point, but that was the preliminary report after the team's fourth-round draft choice had his knee examined. The club is awaiting additional tests before making the final determination.

First, it's his left knee not his previously injured right knee. I don't think that matters much, but I'm sure it's peace of mind for some. Arthroscopic surgery is a minimally invasive procedure that shouldn't lead to much missed time by Bryant. The crotch-targeted pimp-slap-to-be is that arthroscopic surgery is often the prelude to a much more serious treatment. For now, with no specifics about when or how the injury occurred I'm willing to take a cautiously optimistic outlook. He'll miss time, but I don't think he'll miss the season.

On John Carlson:

"We haven't done enough yet, and he's got to get in the game," coach Mike Holmgren said when asked about Carlson after the morning practice. "But I really feel he is the player we thought he was when we drafted him."

You're not going to hear more glowing praise than that. It's early yet in training camp, and no one is going to slip anything too positive, but to simply say "yeah, this is what we were hoping for when we drafted him" gets me pretty psyched. What I've been holding close to my chest is a serious and almost destabilizing belief that this team needs Carlson to produce, because with Hackett gone and Branch out, Carlson is the only seam-stretcher on roster. The mess of underneath threats--Engram, Burleson, Weaver, Jones--need someone to draw the safety deep. Otherwise, we're going to see a mess of broken Hawks strewn across the field.

Seahawks Insider

Matt Hasselbeck brought up the other day that Logan Payne had the chance to sign with another team who wanted him to play for them, and instead chose to stay in Seattle. I asked Ruskell about it, and he said it was actually Jordan Kent who had the offer from another team.

Ooooooh! Diss.

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Your dislike of Payne is palpable

but speaking of Kent, any chance he finds a role on the team with his ability to stretch the field some?

Did Bryant hurt himself during practice or was this just something that came out of a check up? I haven’t seen any mention of what caused the injury.

by Nate Dogg on Jul 31, 2008 6:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See people accused me of the same thing about Alexander.

I don’t dislike anyone. I’m only picking on Payne because major coverage has been so slanted the other way.

by John Morgan on Jul 31, 2008 6:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nate...

I thought Nate was our deep threat…Is he slower than I think he is? ‘Prospectus’ claims he caught 26% of deep passes, which is a high number, unless I’m misunderstanding that info. What is the statement that Nate is an ‘underneath threat’ supported by? I’m looking for a better understanding of his talents. I thought Nate was targeted deep fairly often, although probably not as much as Hackett was.

by Misfit74 on Jul 31, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd be interested to see a breakdown

on the Hawk’s success on deep balls.

I’ve always felt that Hasselbeck was terrible at throwing deep, he airs a lot of them over the sidelines. Long passes have always just seemed like a warning shot across the safeties bow to me, that they don’t really expect to get anything out of it.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 1, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not certain I would call Burleson a deep "threat", not yet...

Burleson was targeted on 30 deep passes.

Here’s how they break down:

Completion Percentage: 40%

TDs: 2

INTs: 3

AY/A: 6.1

But, and I mentioned that Burleson played a bit better at the end of the year, on his final 10 targets.

TDs: 1

INTs: 1

AY/A: 9.3

So maybe he’s improving. Or maybe that’s just a small sample size fluke. Either way, for now I like Burleson better as an underneath receiver with excellent run after catch ability.

by John Morgan on Aug 1, 2008 1:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Parker

From espn’s John Clayton:

If you are wondering why former Chargers wide receiver Eric Parker hasn’t landed with another team, it’s because he’s still recovering from toe surgery.

by Misfit74 on Jul 31, 2008 8:14 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nate

Has the speed to get separation deep but lacks the vision/timing/hands to be where the ball is when it falls out of the sky.. and catch it.

I’m sorry to say that at this point in Burleson’s career (he will be 27 by week one) he will probably never develop the skills he needs to be a complete and consistent WR. Probably never, that is.

Burleson was not at the top of the depth chart when we brought him over here. He has gradually moved up over the years for three main reasons:

1. Health (Burleson hasn’t missed a game as a seahawk)
2. Tantalizing speed and quickness… what he could be / could have been.
3. Relative Youth / Experience

On the other hand, the fact that Burleson is now entering the season as a starter for his first time as a hawk may lead to him turning the corner this year. There couldn’t be a better time.

...

That Red Bryant news sucks. This means Howard Green and Terrill are the second team D-line… Heres hoping Tubbs gets on the field this year.

by michaelfox99 on Aug 1, 2008 7:29 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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