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Projecting Seattle's 53 Man Roster: Special Teams, Practice Squad and Notable Snubs

The contest between Brandon Coutu and Olindo Mare is not yet won. Neither may decide it themselves, but, rather, injuries and a need to stock certain types of talent on the practice squad may.

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Kicker

Brandon Coutu

Coutu could conceivably be stashed on the practice squad, but that move has obvious drawbacks. For one, another team could and likely would sign him. He'd also be taking a spot from another player who might prove invaluable in what already looks like an injury wracked season for the Hawks. Keeping Coutu moves Mare to free agency, where he'd likely stay. In that sense, Seattle could re-sign Mare if eventually figured out the folly of retaining a kicker who can't kickoff playing in a league full of teams searching for the next Devin Hester.

Strengths: May encourage team go for it more on 4th down.

Weaknesses: Kickoff distance. Field goal length.

Punter

Ryan Plackemeier

Good luck Reggie Hodges. You won't regret subbing in Seattle.

Strengths: Length. Loft. Backspin.

Weaknesses: Bench press.

Snapper

Tyler Schmitt

I'll just chalk this up to common sense and say that the job is his unless he's placed on IR.

Strengths: Snapping. Downfield tackling.

Weaknesses: Blocking. Health.

Practice Squad

Michael Bumpus

Has a nice mix of potential out of the slot, skill should he be needed this season and poor measurables meaning he won't be signed.

Kelin Johnson

I'm not sure Johnson ever makes a pro roster, but he's a great employee and probably steady enough he could play a game or two in a pinch.

Pat Murray

Has the footwork Holmgren demands, and the power Ruskell likes. Only drawback is that he's strictly a guard.

Tim Lindsey

The team won't again risk scouring the bottom for a long snapper and I think will attempt to retain their relative wealth at the position.

William Robinson

There's a lot to like about Robinson. Especially if two years from now he fills out and starts looking like a tackle instead of a tight end. But the quickness, height and skills are there, and that's something. Probably the last player you'd ever want to see take a snap in 2008.

Joe Newton

Newton is Putzier young, but unlike Putz, Newton can be stashed on the practice squad. Unlike Newton, Putz has proven an ability to receive in the NFL.

Samuel Gutekunst

The man from no college gets a pass because he's a foreigner. Doesn't count against the 8.

Dallas Sartz

A three year starter out of USC, Sartz is a player fans love, but who might not cut it as a pro. His leadership skills and work ethic are perfect for the practice squad and, eventually, coaching.

Kevin Brown

Maybe I just have a soft spot for guys who get tips. Or maybe my soft spot belongs to players recovering from injury. Whatever motivates me, Tim Ruskell likes Cal linemen, multiple season starters and high character guys, and he makes the decisions. Brown is athletic but undersized and will need to grow into his body a bit to contribute, but the potential is something like Craig Terrill.

Notable Snubs

Jason Babin

The team would love to keep Babin, but with such depth at the position, it would be a waste to spend another roster spot on a defensive linemen. Especially since Babin has no potential as a defensive tackle. The other reason we can expect Babin to be shipped out is that he still has trade value. He's a former first round pick, a defensive end (always coveted) and has shown some life in the preseason. So, not so much a snub as a player lost to an unavoidable numbers crunch that should net Seattle a high draft pick useful part in trade.

Floyd Womack

You know it's the end when I stop being mean. Womack is and has always been just good enough, cheap enough and versatile enough to make the roster. But this season I think Seattle finally figures out that a backup who can't stay healthy isn't a backup. That's Womack, perhaps capable, but ever a dead roster spot because his brittle body cannot even survive practice. An oft-injured offensive lineman is a luxury an injury riddled roster cannot afford.

Chris Cooper and Larry Tripplett

When you're a veteran with all the skills in camp replete with rookies and journeymen, you should be making noise, but after weeks of not hearing from these two I think it's safe to say they're on their way out. From Seattle and maybe the league. The latter is up to them.

Will Herring

Whatever Herring is suffering from sounds serious enough that the kid should just take a season off and concentrate on his health. IRed. Get well brother.

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Thanks for this

it sounds like if we deal Babin and PUP Branch, we won’t lose anybody we really need to keep (barring further significant injuries, anyway); I was starting to get seriously concerned, but I guess we’re not quite to that point yet.

One minor thing: typo on “notable” in the post title.

by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 14, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just noticed that.

Ugh, I hate headline typos.

The inspiration for this was reading through position battle posts that made it sound like high drama. The first thing I did was write down everyone I couldn’t bear to lose and it was immediately clear that there’s plenty of room on the 53 man roster for all the essentials.

by John Morgan on Aug 14, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

a couple of things...

I didn’t see the Vikes game, but I thought I heard Coutu’s kickoffs were OK.

AND

Who’s gonna give a “high draft pick” for Babin? We got him for a sixth I think, and dropped him PDQ.

by djafrot on Aug 14, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh, high in the sense of late.

I’ll change that.

Coutu’s kicks, in the climate controlled Metrodome, were very poor. Good kickers get the ball into the end zone, deep enough and high enough that opponents don’t return the ball. Coutu was stretched to get it inside the 10. Most of his kicks were flat and Seattle’s return teams were always playing catchup. That’s about as favorable as conditions will ever be for Coutu, and it wasn’t an encouraging display.

by John Morgan on Aug 14, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PUP'd Branch then?

As you noted earlier, probably wise roster-wise to begin the season. Let the rookie WRs show who can produce enough to stay (or who will inevitably end up IR’d themselves). The roster seems much more rational after your analysis. Big props for taking the time to think it out and simmer the fan-dom.

Sounds like Bumpus is becoming a popular target in the slot though (See Farnsworth’s quote of Holmgren: “I would add him to that list [of young receivers] now.”). Payne’s brittle ribs might have the most to worry about from the coug’s recent stepping up – particularly since they seem to have made up their mind on Taylor, Obomanu has the versatility and know-how, and Kent is our one hope to stretch the field (excluding perhaps seam-running rookie Carlson).

‘Chop might end up making his own demise… (I feel a little wrong hoping it works out that way, but maybe it is not hope, but feeling the inevitable?). If not, though, I predict the front office might not be willing to follow your sound approach to finally pull the plug in favor of whatever sense of depth ’Chop gives to the O-line and/or sentimental attachment to having a guy named “Porkchop” on the team. Keeping him, however, would ruin your proposed near-perfect scenario for keeping all the backs and receivers (minus Homgren’s alleged interest in Bumpus).

by StandingRoomOnlyHawkFan on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Coutu had a bad day

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2008/08/14/p29913#more29913

I honestly think Mare is gonna win the job and they’ll try and stash Coutu on the practice squad and if someone picks him up…then so be it.

by MFAN on Aug 14, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just too add

I’m not predicting Coutu is going to get cut based on one practice, but I’m just not hearing a ton of good news about him, while we seem to hear a lot of good news about all the other rookies.

by MFAN on Aug 14, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fyi people on that blog still give me a headache

I dread the day they start infesting this blog.

Coach Owens = No Fun Zone

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 14, 2008 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They're good for a laugh sometimes

I should be on my fifth weenie smoothie by now! You know how many I've had? Zero...

by Badical Turbo Radness on Aug 15, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kickoffs

Would Plackemeier have any potential ability to do kickoffs if Mare didn’t make the team?

by Simon Phoenix on Aug 14, 2008 6:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Some punters can kick though.

I’ve never heard that being the case with Plackemeier.

by John Morgan on Aug 15, 2008 2:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's very uncommon.

Though last night Richmond McGee handled kickoffs for the Eagles and his primary job is punter.

by John Morgan on Aug 15, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Falcons kicker from Ferndale

was doing it last year. He also kicked longer FG

Coach Owens = No Fun Zone

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Koenen

He was supposed to be a do it all punter/kicker/kickoff guy. That didn’t last long, he’s just a punter now.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 15, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Koenen still handled KO's

especly since Elam’s now their K. IIRC, Elam hasn’t handled KO’s in a while – in Denver they were having their ‘roided P do it. And I think there are a few older P’s – guys like Mitch Berger & Hentrich who have always doubled as KO specialists.

I have no idea how Plack would do with KO’s – but it sticks in my mind that he has done it. When we drafted him, I remember hearing that he was also a K in college, and had a lot of experience with FG’s & KO’s.

The idea has always made sense to me – P’s are usually bigger and stronger than K’s, so why not put that to use on KO’s where you’re just trying to boom the ball? It seems to me that a KO technique is entirely different than either a P or a FG kick, so at least one player has to learn a different motion … why not the guy with the better leg?

by jteckmann on Aug 15, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Video preview

Dudes (Scruffy and/or Christian), are you gonna get a video preview started?

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phildopip on Aug 15, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shit

Go for it again this week and actually all of the pre season if you want it. I have a company BBQ so I’m leaving my computer now. I’ve been stock pilling videos for the season.

Coach Owens = No Fun Zone

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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