He's back baby! He's back!
by HawkFan79 on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 PM PDT
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Back by popular demand!
Love him or hate him, he is a talent that is needed in a very desperate time. Our kick and punt return problem will be solved at least. Who knows? He might even rejuvinate his career and become our #3 or 4 receiver even when Branch and Engram are back.
I welcome him back with open arms. Now just don't start that ball dropping crap again and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD lay off the drink!
Update by John Morgan: I'm not going to lie, this is half intuition, but I think Seattle just signed a difference maker. Robinson is a young 28, a former top ten pick that knows Mike Holmgren's system. He has the talent of an elite wide receiver but nearly drank his way out of the league. Character can be achieved, but talent you're born with. I can't possibly know if he's reformed, but I do know he's trying. And I do know that Tim Ruskell has perhaps the most stringent personal conduct policy in the NFL. He's retained players with personal problems, but he's never signed one, and I don't think any amount of desparation would force him to sign someone he's not 100% about. Storylines are for history, and there's the dicey matter of Robinson's 81 receptions in the last four years, but think of every athlete you counted out because he was a crum, crook or headcase and think how many have figured it out and turned around their careers. Think Koren Robinson could be next?
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Whoops, looks like I'm a hair late with my fanpost.
I’ll leave it up to Scruffy/John to get rid of one.
by BrianL on Sep 15, 2008 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Done.
But still woo hoo. I love this team.
XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.
by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why wasn't Koren brought back last week?
by BrianL on Sep 15, 2008 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think it came down to
Ruskell pulling the I am the GM card. Ruskell is the guy who cut Koren. Also I heard somewhere that Koren couldn’t make it into practice early enough in the week. McMullen was on the next flight out.
XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.
by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer is simple
The team is more desperate now than it was a week ago. End of story. As John said, talent isn’t just sitting around on a streetcorner somewhere. Unless they wanted this season to go down the toilet — and that’s where it was heading with the passing offense completely unable to resemble anything we’ve seen the past seven years — they had to upgrade the talent at WR. They’ve now done that.
by Nuss on Sep 16, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
deleted?
I hope he really has turned things around.
by Will Kier on Sep 15, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Deleted?
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by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone deleted the other FanPost
brought to you by Scoop
I don’t know, it felt awkward saying the same thing I posted in the other thread. but now it’s gone
by Will Kier on Sep 15, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did.
No point in having two fanposts about the same topic and since this is Hawkfan’s first, he was first to report it, and BrianL is a very good sport and I know he will take no offense to it being taken down. By all means re-post your comments to this one.
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by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense taken, Hawkfan did beat me by a minute or two.
by BrianL on Sep 15, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you were a good man.
XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.
by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh. Tired.
XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.
by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got what you were going for there : )
by BrianL on Sep 15, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Picking up what I am laying down?
Do you ever sleep?
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by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true.
http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/sleep-motivation.png
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by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 16, 2008 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that was it
I hoped he’d really turned things around. BUT now I feel pressure to make a better comment:
is he still plagued by drops? I remember the duo of Jackson and Robinson significantly elevating my blood pressure in their glory days. And how would he stack up talent-wise if we had a full, healthy fleet of WRs?
by Will Kier on Sep 15, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine that if/when Engram and Branch return
Robinson becomes a pretty good split-end target for Matt. Of course, this is all provided that Koren is healthy and in shape.
by BrianL on Sep 15, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy is a pro-bowl returner.
The man has the potential that got him drafter #9 overall. I still love him. He has cleaned his act up immensely. Married and has a child. Kinda the Sean Taylor story somewhat. He spoke at the rookie symposium for how NOT to be. The man is changed.
On that note though, the guy is on his last chance in the NFL. No team has brought him in for anything and here he is signed official tomorrow. So why if he is clean and in the right mindset not signed and playing? The man though is not injury prone really. Favre loves him if that means anything.
When Branch/Engram come back he will be a flanker. Thats a mean 3 headed WR combo. I love this move if you can’t tell.
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by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then I'm inching closer to accepting this signing, character-wise
I’d heard something about a bum knee though. Is that an overblown issue?
by Will Kier on Sep 15, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still has something we are in desperate need of in the WR core
Speed!!
Lets just hope he gets enough pine tar on those receiving gloves!
by collyb on Sep 15, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WCO does not need speed
as the number one skill.
1. Route running.
2. Hands
3. Speed
4. Get the F&^$ down. Aka the skill Logan Payne does not have.
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by Christian on Sep 15, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha...
Poor Payne, at least he held on to the damn ball. It was And no, he doesn’t need it as the number one skill, it will be nice to have a guy to run routes though. Matt needs the confidence in the mid range to deep ball.
I have hope for Bumpus as well.
by collyb on Sep 15, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little know fact
Krob will be our new saftey
ANYTHING PLEASE, I hope the move gets made this week
I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.
by Chickadee on Sep 16, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ruskell finally came to his senses...
Let’s hope Robinson can deliver.
by aerozeppelin on Sep 15, 2008 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was only a matter of time
before even Ruskell’s high moral standards had to give. SOMEONE has to catch the ball.
Dick Dastardly and Muttley with sick laughter
by Wayward Llama on Sep 15, 2008 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now for the D Secondary and Kicking teams!
Come on Ruskell, you know what to do! Call the other Premier GM’s around the league and ask them for some advice!
by collyb on Sep 15, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just stay healthy! That's all I want from him beyond catch the occasional ball :P
If life gives you lemons, keep the receipt
by Bramlet A. on Sep 15, 2008 11:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There's only 2 things I ask out of K-Rob
1. Stay healthy
2. Stay away from the bottle
I’m a sucker for sports redemption stories (still get mushy when thinking about Josh Hamilton), and it would be awesome to see him resurrect his career with the Seahawks. Please don’t break our hearts again.
by Benne on Sep 15, 2008 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My take
I’m very much in favor of this move, for a few different reasons.
Reason the first: Sheer necessity. We just don’t have people who are capable receivers, and we need any help at all that we can get.
2nd: This could make the kick return unit much better, which might have the added benefit of allowing Josh Wilson to concentrate on his defense. After a very strong showing in week 1, he sorta fell off of a cliff next week. I don’t have any knowledge into whether playing so much as the kick returner had a particular effect there, but it’s at least possible that it had a negative impact.
The number of the item being 3: Redemption stories rock
4: Koren is still quite young, and if he comes back and is successful and has control of himself, we might have acquired someone who can help us for the next couple of years, maybe.
The Fifth: This is just going to be fun to watch. I don’t know if he’s game-ready or any of that sort of thing, but even if he isn’t very good, I’m gonna be excited to look for him on every play and hope he can pull of some exciting things.
John, any chance you have any sort of scouting reports for Mr. Robinson stashed away in the back of your closet? He’s had some good statistical seasons before, though it’s been a while.
by jimmimoose on Sep 16, 2008 12:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and I forgot to add
At this point, there’s almost zero downside to this move.
by jimmimoose on Sep 16, 2008 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it.
Now we just need a free safety because jesus christ is Russell baaaaad.
by OlSalty on Sep 16, 2008 12:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We could also use a new D-coordinator and Special Teams coordinator.
Fire DeHaven and Marshall now.
by BrianL on Sep 16, 2008 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall?
He hasn’t done anything to deserve to get fired.
by PascoJoe on Sep 16, 2008 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go back and watch the third down plays last Sunday and get back to me.
Marshall has been awful.
by BrianL on Sep 16, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third and Long
all out blitzs. We could have one if not for those playscalls.
by redwolf75 on Sep 16, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for trading a 3rd or 4th rounder for a pretty good safety
I don’t want Holmgren’s last season to be for naught.
by HawkFan79 on Sep 16, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good move.
All K-Rob has to do is stay out of trouble (a BIG if, I know) and he’ll see tons of looks. Koren should take some of his NFL minimum and hire a chaperone/bodyguard to keep himself away from himself.
The whole situation is still a slow-motion trainwreck—or a horrible bike crash, as Morgan put it—but there are two things I know:
1. The Hawks play in the NFC West, so we’re still in it to win it
2. The Hawks will beat the living shit out of the Rams this Sunday. Bank it.
by lemonverbena on Sep 16, 2008 8:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is a really interesting situation...
KDrop (dammit)… KRob is still only 28, has been pretty much injury free, and doesn’t have very many miles on his body. He also has lots of WCO experience, most of it here with Matt and Holmgren. The ability to run back kicks and punts is a nice bonus.
Yeah, I wonder how he fits in the long-term plans. Certainly he could take up the old split-end spot with Branch at flanker and Bobby in the slot…. leaving Burly where? Maybe the eventual slot guy?
by djafrot on Sep 16, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Burly could be 4th receiver, KR and PR. Like last year
when Branch, Engram, and Hackett were healthy.
by redwolf75 on Sep 16, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's only returned 2 punts in his career.
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 16, 2008 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bumpus did just fine last week
Remaining cautiously optimistic...
by Badical Turbo Radness on Sep 16, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BAD NEWS
Robinson suffered a wrist injury while signing the contract and will be out for 10-12 weeks
by Bloof on Sep 16, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This wasn't funny with the Lofa gag
and it’s not funny now. I sincerely hope you get some time in the penalty box for this.
by BrianL on Sep 16, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
Just a harmless joke, not a stupid hoax.
by John Morgan on Sep 16, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you did there.
You made a mookie, when attempting to be funny. You said he was hurt, because the other receivers were hurt. We need receivers. You funny.
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by Christian on Sep 16, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You took it and made it dirty
I see what you’re getting at
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 16, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed....you just needed to read the comment guys.
Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.
by SSreporters on Sep 16, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
all kidding aside
I hope k-rob has his life insurance paid up. WR for Seattle is as risky as drumming for Spinal Tap.
by phil26687 on Sep 16, 2008 12:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish him well
For his own sake, I hope the drinking is all over. I certainly am pulling for him as a human being, regardless of the number of passes he catches.
On the field, I always had the same concern with Koren that I had with Jackson; I didn’t think it was a coincidence that the first year he was gone and D-jack was out with an injury for 10+ games the dropped passes problem suddening vanished and we were 13-3. However, at this point, I think a few drops are the least of the ’Hawks worries.
by Azimeir on Sep 16, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm back! (Ducks at tomatos)
I’m mixed on this. It helps special teams, because honestly, Josh Wilson will lose us a game with his suicide returns and not knowing when to just take a knee in the end zone.
The part that gives me a mixed feeling is the WR part of him. Maybe he has changed like D-Jack and he can hang onto the ball, but I doubt it.
Wish him the best of luck, basically as long as we beat the Rams, the bye week comes and you have Robinson, Branch, Engram, Taylor, and Bumpus all healthy for now.
Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.
by SSreporters on Sep 16, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Koren isn't going to be returning kicks until Branch and Engram return.
Even then I won’t be surprised if Holmgren doesn’t use him in that role.
by BrianL on Sep 16, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well most likely then if things go as planned then this is a 1 game only deal.
Unless Holmgren will give Engram and Branch limited time in their return.
Brian Russell is worse than you.
by SSreporters on Sep 16, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
Koren is better than Taylor/Bumpus/McMullen/Mayor McCheese.
It was only a matter of Ruskell’s pride, really. I’m surprised Hawks fans are taking this so well, considering how vicious their hatred of Koren was back in the “old days”.
by djafrot on Sep 16, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was frustration
more than hatred.
by Nate Dogg on Sep 16, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That chum?
What an awesome citizen!
I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.
by Chickadee on Sep 16, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hated Koren tons and tons more than Stevens
by Robert on Sep 16, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Qualify that statement please.
I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.
by Chickadee on Sep 16, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meaning I found Koren's antics to be a whole lot more grating than Stevens,
And not many people remember how while being a complete dumbass preformed pretty well in the postseason for us.
by Robert on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Accidently put this under the Colbert fan post
so I’ll put it here too, since it’s almost 100% about Koren. Ruskell’s conference call transcript.
by Nate Dogg on Sep 16, 2008 9:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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