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Babin ---> Curb

per Seattle Times blog.  

Seems like an odd move on so many levels.  Babin's actually seen playing time this year, Atkins wasn't active last week.  Atkins isn't as polished a player, Atkins could still be somewhat injured, Babin played well in week one.  And then this: COUTU IS STILL ON THE ROSTER.  

There's also a mention in this entry that Walt missed practice today and WR Trent Shelton was added to the PS.

Update by John Morgan: Little does anyone know about Mike Holmgren's double-secret two kicker play. Oh, you complain now but it's gonna be awesome.

About three weeks ago Jason Babin had value. How much, I don't know. Now he's a free agent.

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Huh.

Fuck.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phildopip on Sep 17, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Coutu

He clearly has pictures of a team executive in some compromising position.

by fender on Sep 17, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 17, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Coutu better turn into the best damn kicker ever

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 17, 2008 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who will now take the lead

in who has the most tribal tattoos?

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 17, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Coutu injured?

There’s a comment on that same Times blog entry that says Coutu is injured and Mare’s keeping the spot warm until Coutu’s good to go again. I’d never heard that before, has anyone else heard that? Or have I fallen victim to some rumor-mongering?

by niko on Sep 17, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

But Babin got pushed around and I didn’t see him getting any pressure, while our starting DEs who aren’t “pass rushing specialists” were getting pressure on the QB.

I didn’t see Babin much, but that’s what I saw.

by cashless on Sep 17, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hm

what strange decisions we have been making

by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 17, 2008 2:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

they must think Coutu is gonna be something special

Because Mare’s now been not only punching the ball into the end zone on kickoffs, he’s hit a 51 yarder (which could have been almost 60).

What’s going on?

by djafrot on Sep 17, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm....

WTF? I’m still going on faith that Ruskell knows what he’s doing (I’m not a GM, and I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night), but damn these moves are confusing the hell out of me.

Colbert, Robinson = I get it, I agree, I think they’re smart moves
Babin, Forsett, two kickers = WTF??

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 17, 2008 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

great refenrence

+1 internet

2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.

by Chickadee on Sep 17, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems...

"I even talked to club president Tim Ruskell about this. They have yet to release Coutu, and sign him to the practice squad, because they do not want to lose him. Coutu is the future at the position. Olindo Mare actually threw a strong right leg into their plans, because the club was hoping Coutu would win the competition. He is younger, was a draft choice and would count less against the salary cap than Mare. But …

So, here they are, with two kickers they like a lot – one is the present, the other is the future. Ruskell said it would take a severe injury situation for them to release one, and the club has arrived at that critical point quicker than anyone could have imagined."

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/archives/148512.asp?source=mypi

by vanrijn on Sep 17, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dumb.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phildopip on Sep 17, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"the future at the position"

holy crap it’s a kicker. I understand the desire to develop him, but it’s coming at the direct cost of talent that could immediately help the present. for a kicker, that’s crazy.

by Will Kier on Sep 17, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why couldn't we flip Babin into a 6th/7th round pick at least?

Coming off such a productive preseason, with the “former 1st-round pick” tag attached, I feel like Babin should have had some value to someone..

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by ASUBoyd on Sep 17, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

especially since we just gave away a pick for Colbert. Erg.

Dick Dastardly and Muttley with sick laughter

by Wayward Llama on Sep 17, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid.

You can get a good kicker from free agency anytime. Ruskell is being incredibly stupid. Mare is playing great, doesn’t that itself indicate:
1) You can get a good kicker from FA anytime
2) WE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD KICKER!!

This is so ridiculous. Not to mention we could have just given Josh Brown his money anyways, it would have ultimately cost the team less when you factor in a draft pick AND signing Mare AND devoting two roster spots to PK’s.

I don’t know a whole lot about kicking but Coutu seems to be accurate but not have a real big leg. At Georgia he was nailing em from 50+ but has been hurt and may not get there again..? Ultimately it won’t be terrible if Coutu really becomes a great kicker for us for 15 years. Babin and Forsett both looked great in the preseason but I don’t see either unseating the starters ahead of them on this football team and making a real impact. We have Yvenson Bernard on our PS now who probably has more everydown potential (and better hands) than Forsett. We have a hell of a lot of running back in Weaver, Shmitt, Jones, Cukett, and Morris anyways. We have Tapp, Jackson, and Kerney as our top three DE’s and Atkins was a much bigger investment for us than Babin and is still developing. So lets just let things play out.

I am glad that we brought in guys who still have decent upside in McMullen, Colbert, and Robinson. Branch and Engram are both up their in years and injuries so it would be bad news to bring in guys like Horn and Glenn. We might really like how this receiving corps looks a year from now and be able to focus draft picks on QB, T, S, etc. This defense has a core of youngsters on the up (Mebane, Jackson, Tapp, Trufant, Jennings, Tatupu, Hill, Bryant) whose peak is out there in the future. The goal is to get contributors in the o-line and a new qb acclimated over the next couple years so we don’t need a ‘dark age’ between periods of contention.

It is great that Willis is playing well because he was really starting to look like a bust. Spencer has gotten back out on the field and has a chance to turn it around. I think we are protecting Locklear because we committed so much money to him and Willis is playing well.

by michaelfox99 on Sep 17, 2008 5:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What's puzzling is the inconsistency

The Coutu move speaks of a decision made with the future in mind – which I like despite not likely this specific loyalty to an unproven kicker – but Holmgren stated when releasing Forsett and Kent that they were players with tremendous upside but that “we are trying to do some things to help us now”.

So how does this jive with the whole Coutu experiment?

by Azimeir on Sep 17, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't really

it’s a little baffling that they’d cut Kent, who saw the field in the Buffalo game, and Forsett, who could have contributed with Mo down and on punt returns, in favor of a kicker thats so amazing he can’t beat out Mare. The only thing that can be said for Ruskell is that, as frustrating as it’s been, Coutu is the only place where he’s held out for the future. He’s been otherwise consistent in trying to win now with the cuts, Koren, and the Colbert trade.

by Nate Dogg on Sep 17, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good points all around..

Although, that almost makes it more frustrating that he is doing this nonsense with Coutu.

House of Sparky - www.houseofsparky.com - Go Sun Devils

by ASUBoyd on Sep 17, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT!?!?

OK. This article clearly indicates that Coutu’s leg strength (ie kickoff distance) has not improved since recovering from injury and DeHaven doesn’t even expect it to… I doubt DeHaven would say this off-hand (something negative about personnel) without it being inescapable reality.

Absolutely ridiculous. Mare is a great kicker. The only thing worse than having two kickers on the roster is that we will likely start using Coutu at some point this year or next and worsen our already poor S/T. crappppp.

by michaelfox99 on Sep 17, 2008 9:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

:(

ugh

House of Sparky - www.houseofsparky.com - Go Sun Devils

by ASUBoyd on Sep 17, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is with this move?

Jason Babin was an adequate rotation player on the defensive line behind Patrick Kerney and, moreover, was at least so-so on special teams. Well, uh, Tim Ruskell must believe that Baraka Atkins will stay healthy this season and prove himself to be more useful than Babin.

I don’t buy it, though.

by AK1984 on Sep 18, 2008 5:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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