Nate Burleson Out For Season

FUCK

that is all.

by phil26687 on Sep 8, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

where'd you hear this?

I’d only heard short to medium term rumblings

by Will Kier on Sep 8, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Assuming this is true, this hurts but is not the end of the world unless branch and engram are rushed back, we have very winnable games on the docket up through the bye week and hopefully then we can look at getting guys back and fixing up the receiving corps.

That said these injuries are really breaking my balls

PP

by armedpp on Sep 8, 2008 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

kill me now

i thought that we had a real shot

by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 8, 2008 2:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What the fuck is with this attitude?

We are still a 10 win team at minimum

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was dramatic at the time

it could have something to do with the debacle yesterday and that our only reliable offensive players are matt, who now has nobody to throw to, and big walt.

ya, i still think that we’ll win 11 games but still….it’spretty hard to be optimistic right now

by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 8, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The problem yesterday was a failure to adjust to the all-out blitz, which is more of a coaching issue than a talent issue.

A few screens to the backs would have done wonders.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Please don't post something like this without a link.

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It's on the ticker on ESPN

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no link yet

but I heard it from Holmgren’s mouth at the press conference today

by phil26687 on Sep 8, 2008 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

also heard it

yeah, holmy was on KJR, said he is done for the year. Also made it sounds like they will look to ads a WR from outside the team.

by Seahawks124 on Sep 8, 2008 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Well Christian, looks like your Steve Smith idea may not be so far fetched now.

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh.

I think this is more of a lets see who is cut and walking the unemployment line.

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I knew it looked really bad when I saw it.

Had the same reaction to it as Brady’s when it happened.

by Matthew on Sep 8, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Less jumping and excitedly pointing.

by Robert on Sep 8, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, yeah, except for that.

by Matthew on Sep 8, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I figured.

The way he was clutching his knee after a plant, looked like a tendon.

by John Morgan on Sep 8, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Moving this to the frontpage?

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

My policy, anyone reports the news, as long as it’s not poorly written, they get the cred.

by John Morgan on Sep 8, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am somehow still not worried.

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

replacement

Isn’t Chad Ocho Cinco demanding a trade?

by phil26687 on Sep 8, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Head case or not, as a fan I can't say I wouldn't be very very excited.

But I don’t see that happening.

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was bullshit, by the way, that Reebok denied him the right to wear the Ocho Cinco jersey yesterday.

It is his name, so he has the right to have it on his back.

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see it either

but it would be exciting…

by phil26687 on Sep 8, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll never forget

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think John Carlson just became Beck's number 1 target

Matt mentioned how he really trusted Carlson yesterday.

by MFAN on Sep 8, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Carlson needs some time in the slot

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So what happens now?

Sign Bumpus off the practice squad? Trade a pick or two for a WR?

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh please oh please

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bumpus probably moves in just by default

But Ruskell said they are looking outside the organization

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do we have enough depth at any position to warrant moving a player along with a pick?

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It would probably be just picks

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tapp maybe.

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doubt it

Tapp played a ton yesterday

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know.

But it is a position of depth for us.

XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.

by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about Babin?

Former 1st round pick, had a good preseason. He wouldn’t be worth as much as Tapp, but we wouldn’t really miss him and he’d be a little bit more incentive to a team along with a draft pick.

by Strang on Sep 8, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

but I think he has a bad stigma around him as a bust in the NFL’s eyes. I was thinking he would fall into Tapp’s role.

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by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Koren Robinson

Don’t call it a comeback!

I'd like to kick Josh Brown in the privates!

by The Manchild on Sep 8, 2008 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That would be like saying

Rashad Moore or Anthony Simmons is welcome back. Heck Jerramy Stevens.

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by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 Words

Josh Scobey

I’m trying to make light of the situation

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

can Shaun play WR?

by MFAN on Sep 8, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's Seneca time, baby.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phildopip on Sep 8, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It has to be

Please put Seneca in the slot…all we need is 2 weeks.

by m_b on Sep 8, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm also assuming we'll see a lot more of Seneca

Frye might have just become the #2 QB

by MFAN on Sep 8, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm having trouble imagining a trade for WR

with Seneca available. it’s a short term need anyway, what with Engram and Branch seriously entering the picture in about 4-5 weeks.

by Will Kier on Sep 8, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When Seneca Wallace is suddenly high on your WR depth chart

your team had better be trying to find a WR.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess

but I might be more optimistic about Taylor And The Gang’s potential this season.

by Will Kier on Sep 8, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can still call Frye the #3 QB and not have him count against the active roster

He could only play if #1 and #2 are both injured in one game. #2, being on the active roster can still play QB, KR, WR, RB, whatever offensive/special teams position the team wants. Seneca is still #2.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So did anyone else notice Burly ran the same route

that Branch did when he tore his ACL

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That's exactly what I thought of when I saw Burly go down

by ningwers on Sep 8, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

It’s the planting they do. Something coached I think.

by John Morgan on Sep 8, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How was Buffalo's turf after all that rain?

We know GB’s field was a mess when Branch went down. I wonder if Burly hit a sink hole.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the same turf as Qwest.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They might need to look into that.

by Matthew on Sep 8, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we all agree

this is the time that we see what Ruskell can do.

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by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 3:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

trial by fire.

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by Christian on Sep 8, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When is Deion expected to return?

He did say something about playing week 1…

by Combs on Sep 8, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I say Payne.

Sure it was a tiny sample size, but at least he caught two of the three passes unlike most of the other receivers. I actually think he could be like Jurevicius was in the Half-Dream Season.

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Sep 8, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

But he fumbled one

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He did get fricking rocked...so I won't act like it's a big issue for him yet.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 8, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just seems he gets rocked a lot

even in the Pre season. Maybe its just the routes they have him run.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brian Gilmore is probably a candidate

Not that he’s a good candidate, but he worked in the offense all through training camp and pre-season.

by MFAN on Sep 8, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Throwing a vote for Bumpus

by Azimeir on Sep 8, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I make 2

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by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

for those who wanted a link

http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=120687&id=1158

by Misfit74 on Sep 8, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lost in all the shuffle is the fact that Morris is going to miss some time

not sure how long, but he will be out.

by MFAN on Sep 8, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That really doesn't bother me a whole lot.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Forsett a similar back?

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I don't think it's a big deal

The Hawks have a ton of depth at RB. I’m not too worried about Mo being out a few weeks.

by MFAN on Sep 8, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm looking for Forsett to get time

be it a little RB but mainly KR/PR

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Furrey?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh God no.

Just because of the last name no.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha, you should get a jersey named "Furrey...STAB STAB STAB"

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 8, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So is this like LL where no one cares about my fantasy team?

Cause one of my two teams just lost Burleson and Brady…I’m screwed.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 8, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It only bothers me in game threads

Where someone says something along the lines of “Boy I’m glad I’ve got Lynch on my fantasy team!”

…after he gouges us for 20 yards.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had lynch and brady

Sunday hurt me on two levels

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The whole point of LL's rule is what I believe is a virtually universal truth:

A lot of people absolutely love fantasy sports, but no one cares about other people’s fantasy teams unless they happen to be in that same league.

I run a keeper baseball league, and I’m playing fantasy football for the first time this year — with two teams. So I’m not some curmudgeon. I love fantasy. But there is virtually nothing less interesting to me than how many points Adrian Peterson got you tonight. So with that, I have to assume that an equal percentage of people (0%) give a damn that the interception Tavaris Jackson threw with 1 minute left in tonight’s game caused me to lose by ONE GODDAMN POINT in one of my leagues!

In my opinion, we’re spoiled by LL’s strict rules in certain areas that tend to annoy or start fights (no fantasy, no religion, no politics, no stating dumb ideas without defending them). But we can’t expect those rules to be applied elsewhere. It’s a nice model, but it only works in a certain environment, I think. Field Gulls is a great, up-and-coming site that probably shouldn’t be alienating anyone. Lookout Landing can afford to tell annoying people to go away. I have to think that applies here.

BUT: I will say that it’s a blast to talk fantasy with people who are in your league. And seeing as how there is apparently a Field Gulls fantasy league, I have no beef with it here.
______

And since I’m already on a long rant, let me introduce myself, since I really only started commenting yesterday: I’m Teej. I grew up on Vashon Island but live in San Diego now. I’m a Lookout Landing reader, so that’s how I heard about this site. I love the Hawks, and I’m excited to have another hangout that features some pretty awesome analysis and a lot of the LL regulars with whom I’ve become so familiar. So to John and everyone else: You’re doing a kick-ass job, and keep it up.

Go Hawks!

by Teej on Sep 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was totally talking about me

in the last paragraph.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No because football is played once a week

Baseball is every night

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This

by Wilder. on Sep 8, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So does Seneca now do full time punt returns?

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 8, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wilson is my guess.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh wait, PR.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forsett is my guess

since Mo will be unavailable next week

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why is Kent even back there..unless he's getting the ball he serves no purpose

He can’t block worth a damn.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 8, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Taylor would be the better candidate

he blocks real well, but then again, so does forsett

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

is Keenan McCardell done?

He was at the Skins’ camp last year.

he has WCO experience from Tampa, good possession guy.

Yes, I know he’s 1334 years old.

by djafrot on Sep 8, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I like him more than Horn

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keyshawn Johnson rumors in 3...2....1

We should compile a list of prospective players to look at for trade/signing (realistic of course…I would love to sign Al Martin because of his experience at USC, but we know we can’t take him away from his cancer curing research he undoubtedly is working on)

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 8, 2008 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Good call

I don’t think Tyrone Wheatley is in the league anymore so Al shouldn’t have anything to worry about.

by kokobware on Sep 8, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup, definitely gotta be Seneca time now..

I am not one of the usual seahawks fans who thinks Seneca would be an instant pro-bowler or something at WR. I just really like Seneca. I like how he has been a backup who is better than half the starting QB’s in the league for so long. I want to see him on the field making plays and if it has to be at WR so be it.

Also its time to bring back Darrell Jackson.

I am half-serious, this is fun though.

by michaelfox99 on Sep 8, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking that D-Jack wouldnt be a bad idea.

by Robert on Sep 8, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Storybook

This just makes for a much more dramatic season as the veteran QB takes three unheard of WR’s under his mighty Seahawk wing and leads them to the Superbowl.
Mark it down.

by kokobware on Sep 8, 2008 4:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather

have an experienced QB taking three inexperienced WR’s under his wing than have a volatile experienced WR taking an inexperienced QB under his wing. I think Moss blows up sometime in the next three weeks and the Patriots absolutely tank in a few weeks. I think that they’ll hold it together for a few weeks, but end the season below 7-9.

I’m just glad that it was Burleson rather than Hasselbeck, not that its not a blow.

by PascoJoe on Sep 8, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well Moss won't blow if Cassel looks like he did yesterday

Cassel has a arm on him much like Brady’s. And being a guy that won’t go through his progressions very well he is going to lock in on Moss 60% of the time.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

FAntasy success

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ernest Wilford?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 4:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate this game

If I can spin a positive on this, the Rams and 49ers were getting shredded on defense, so Engram and Branch can very well come back in time for the Giants game.

But I hate this I hate this I hate this.

I hope Arizona tanks it.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Here's how I see it

Taylor, Kent, Payne, Seneca.

Nullify Payne if Branch is ready to play.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Um since Burly will go on IR

someone else will come into that spot. Unless they wait a week to cut someone because the have 55 right now

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, actually I forgot about that

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh yah...

55….

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alrighty, now...

…if I hear one more time about how Holmgren is going to keep Seneca on the bench just in case Hass gets a boo-boo, I’m going to personally fly to Seattle and kick him in his big ass. We need a goddam wide receiver just a little bit more than a clipboard holder right now.

by FuriousBlue on Sep 8, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I've got a better idea

Fly to Seattle and help us in receiver position. ;-)

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As far as I'm concerned, Seneca is more of a novelty at WR than an asset.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remember the catch he had against Carolina

End of story…..give me my prize.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was one catch.

One freaking catch.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, if you say so.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

One catch is about as useful as 10 at-bats is in baseball.

It’s an irrelevant window that tells you very little about that player’s ability.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And you wonder why people think you're a god damn retard

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you just hunt for me?

If the answer is yes, then go the heck away.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Easy, Brett.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm too used to LL where this guy and some of the other clowns would've been banned long ago.

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, but what is LL?

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Mariner Sister Blog to FG

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by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I seem to remember him looking much less impressive in the other action at WR that he's seen.

by Robert on Sep 8, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remember the catch vs the Saints?

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is probably unduly mean but it does help illustrate the point...

"If you fell into the trap of "The Panthers are going to be really good because Delhomme is healthy", you should stop watching football. "

from here.

by niko on Sep 8, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Panther’s Oline looked very capable vs. SD. They ran better than they threw, IMO – over 5ypc.

by Misfit74 on Sep 8, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grrr......so that's where some of these hits are coming from?

At least I called a Falcons upset…..I’ll get my coat.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You missed the point

You seem to believe that one game is enough to completely disprove your initial assertion. If that’s the case, then you’re allowing yourself to be too easily swayed by a single game (read: small sample size) and even more so by a single play in the case of Seneca.

Stick me on a football field at wide receiver for enough plays and I’ll make a stellar one eventually and I’m 5’9", overweight and slow. Law of averages says it could even happen on my first play.

I’m more on the side of Brian here, that Seneca’s a novelty item until he proves otherwise. He has the potential for it, yes, but hasn’t shown any refined skills to date.

Granted, you would have proved my point better had you decided to stand by your initial assertion that Delhomme is still a rotten pile of QB stank. Either way, it’s the knee-jerk reaction to everything that’s drawing you so much attention.

All that to say exactly what Brian said in one sentence. Sigh.

by niko on Sep 8, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I get it

The one thing that concerns me about Seneca is not his ability to catch, but he is a fumbling fool. He can catch, he can get yards after the catch, and he fumbles a lot…..which is no different than what Burleson does only Seneca is shorter.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We don't know if he can catch or get YAC either.

He’s played a handful of snaps at WR. That tells you absolutely nothing.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

To boot, this perceived fumbling problem has been witnessed while scrambling which is a distinctly different style of running than while RAC.

Then there’s the David Tyree catch, which was pretty similar in difficulty to Seneca’s catch against Carolina. IIRC, he’s had trouble making the roster just about every year in the league.

And other than the Carolina catch, I remember all of Seneca’s catches being pretty straight-forward.

A list of examples, nary a sniff of a cohesive thought or argument. You regular LLers are a step above the rest of us.

by niko on Sep 8, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeff has bludgeoned the stupid out of us.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

re-reading all of that, it was unduly mean

My point is this. I read the majority of the content on this site, whether it’s fanposts, john’s content or comments. I can say pretty confidently that you’re one the more enthusiastic observers and supporters out there. And dear god, you have a lot to say. But when talking about football, things need to not be spoken so often in absolutes. There’s a time and place for that and it usually paints the picture of your scruffy, beer-gutted football fan watching the Seahawks in their Chris Warren jersey at the local dive joint on Sundays with the same group of people for the last 15 years. This is a great place to discuss football but discussion means listening and analyzing a rebuttal.

by niko on Sep 8, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If that was towards me.....I think I'd be in the Juvenile Center if caught with beer so fail!

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by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh my god.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah......really.

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by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh.....

by redwolf75 on Sep 8, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And sometimes when you are unsure of things you either need to state them as a question or say "I think"

Rather than assume your opinion is true. I’ve noticed this to be very very common at FG so far this year. It’s not question/answer here right now. It’s a bunch of people flipping out over the littlest things or coming up with baseless opinions that “prove” they’re right or that the season is over, or they use backwards logic to prove how their predictions are right, and try to be smug and snooty about it.

This is a discussion. Don’t be smug and snooty, ask questions, state your opinion, but don’t act shitty about it.

I realize this is basically what you just said, but I felt the point really needs to be driven home. This place is becoming like the PI blog or USSM before DMZ and Dave started deleting comments.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, I understand that

But go back to the 1st half thread, please count how many people said game over or wait till next season…….yet most of the “Shut the fu*ck ups” were directed towards me and occasionally Chris Hansen, nothing more. I found it quite unfair.

But alas, I’ll move on, and I THINK that it shouldn’t be discussed here.

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by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think you get a lot of leeway with people here after that Lofa injury stunt.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's fine now, it really doesn't make sense to stay angry foe that.

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by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a consequence for every action you take, especially on an internet community.

The fallout for pulling that particular prank is that some people think you’re a dickish jerk. Fair or not, that’s what happens.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was funny

All it would take to disprove that is go on some sports website. You’d know right away. I think all the angry comments about it were undue considering, well, you are on the internet and in case you didn’t know, the internets is serious business.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How long till we institute the box?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brett you have to relax a little bit.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Brett if you want to hit me up on IM

Go for it. AIM name is scruffylefty (go figure) and I’m on during work hours.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will do. I don't mean to be so harsh

Just most of the carryover from LL is used to a certain type of community with certain behaviors not being tolerated. It seems like here the community is much less informed and performs all the annoying internet behavior no longer tolerated on LL. It surprises me because of how knowledgeable John is about the game, and John tries to promote intelligent, respectful discussion. And it’s frustrating to see people act the way they do here after all John’s done to make this such a great community. Just rent Graham for a game thread and most of the crap will go away, I’m sure. That seems to be something that pushes the crap away from LL

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But LL has also enlightened a lot of the non thickheaded people (including me)

who thought saber stats were a joke. What John does for football analysis is a lot like the beginning of Sabermetrics. There is more to football then what we hear on the Sunday morning countdown or what some drunk yells out in a bar.

We have a growing community and I don’t want to start alienating people just cause they have different opinions or may be “thickheaded”. I want the olds choolers that call us football nerds to come here and realize there is something new to learn. And for that to happen we might have to put up with some attitudes for a little bit.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

well said, and here here

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last thing I want is a Nazi

I don’t know the guy, and I’m not a big enough Mariners fan to frequent LL, but you haven’t painted him in a very desirable light. You know what our profile pics look like, if you don’t want to read us then by all means please don’t. I think we’d do just as well, or better than we are now, with shitty little quips than scathing, pissed off critiques of some of our less than witty moments.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LL guys are great

They had to go through a lot though. But they are defiantly not Blog Nazis.

Problem was Jeff was by himself and then his blog blew up. So they had to do a bunch of cleaning afterwards.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah

Good to hear.

I’m still not convinced you’re a total asshole Brett. You’re fairly clever w. commentary and bring up some interesting points now and then, I just think you could back off, or at least less blunt.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Graham is a complete nazi

by Robert on Sep 8, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm telling on you.

by Teej on Sep 8, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair to the LL community standards,

I don’t know if there is another online sports community like it. It’s a really intriguing model to study, and it’s truly staggering the quantity of user interaction there. So it’s pretty much unique.

LL’ers need understand that, and be mindful of the fact, when venturing out in the The Great Wide Internets, populated by thickheaded buffoons like myself. I really like the style at LL, but it’s definitely niche and an acquired taste.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Sep 9, 2008 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're a god damn cult at LL

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 9, 2008 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But interestingly, there are no FBI raids

or underage marriages. At least, none of which I am aware…

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Sep 9, 2008 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chick

The problem was at the time there was no proof that he was ok.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure

that said there was still none that he wasn’t. It wouldn’t have been a prank if it didn’t make you doubt for the briefest of moments. You can’t trust anyone that’s not accredited or that has nothing to lose by being wrong.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well that's because what you were saying was retarded.

We were within our rights to tell you guys to shut the fuck up.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, so 7 people say it, yet I'm one of few that gets chewed out

W/E, let’s focus on the WR position.

Anyone else think that we should sign a receiver and at the same time cut Payne? I think we should get at least some form of experience on there with some form of quality. I have no faith in Payne but I still have some hope for Taylor and Kent. Jordan dropped some passes but sadly the game was already irrelevant in the 4th. Courtney Taylor sucked, but as you guys said, it’s 1 game and the Bills dropped a lot of passes.

Or just activate Bumpus instead?

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're the only one still talking. That's why we chew you out.

Keep this schtick up and I would guess you won’t be long for this blog.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 8, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

^^This comment is needlessly cruel

and non-productive. I don’t see a single positive purpose to it, unless you’re under the impression that less interaction is good for the community. I simply disagree with that premise.

How hard would it have been to respond to the post itself, rather than carry on your crusade against the author? Something along the lines of:

—————

Yes, it would appear that some veteran experience is needed pretty badly on this roster at the WR position. There are a few factors which complicate the situation, however.

Firstly, we run a WCO, which is an unfamiliar system to many WR’s and requires a slightly different skillset than most offense types. Greater emphasis on YAC and possession skills, for example, compared to AC offenses which are more about speed and separation downfield. This makes finding a good fit a little bit more difficult, and when you add in the fact that the WCO depends so much on timing and the working relationship between QB and WR, the incubation period is pretty long for a guy who is new to the system. This just decreases the total number of viable/valuable WR’s out there.

Secondly, we’ve got our bye weeks pretty early in the season, and it’s not like the schedule is incredibly difficult between now and then, so while adding depth and experience is a plus at any time, now is quite literally the best time to do nothing, if you’re going to have any period that you do nothing this year.

Third, we’ve got some injured veterans returning who fit our offensive mold perfectly. So it’s not like we’re really looking for long-term solutions at the position as of right now, so anyone we do acquire will likely be on the bubble after those vets return.

—————

Look, I’m not trying to pick a fight. But you’ve got to understand that when you’re outside of LL, you’re the abnormal one if you believe that’s how online interaction should be. If you want this blog to resemble that one (which is a perfectly admirable desire, as far as I’m concerned) then you’ve got to start at the beginning of the growth curve and be patient. Not cynical and full of snark full-time.

Help educate people instead of trying to find ways of shutting them up.

p.s. – I’m no football expert, in fact, most of what I’ve learned of the game comes from this blog, and Madden NFL on my Playstation. Any factual inaccuracies herein should be ignored, pitited, snickered at, or any combination thereof.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Sep 9, 2008 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This sub-thread wasn't about the WR it was about the community...

The comments are nested for a reason and this subject had branched off for a reason.

I’m not looking to pick a fight either but he was playing the “oh you only pick ME card” which isn’t true. I was just trying to let him know WHY people have been picking on him, which he doesn’t seem to be listening to. We’re not singling him out, and I’m not crusading against him, I feel like it’s just common sense to not be so pushy and treat your opinions as fact. That’s my beef, and I don’t think I handled it in a particularly rude way.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 9, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again, what the LLer said

Someday I’ll be so eloquent and witty.

by niko on Sep 8, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WHAT IS LL?

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by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing important

by Robert on Sep 8, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lookout Landing, the mariners blog on SBN

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If what you are saying is that you have confidence in Fry should Matt’s back or another injury causes him to miss games? Matt missing time is certainly is possible, given how the line played yesterday.

I’m in the camp that believes Seneca is a huge, no, HUGE upgrade over Frye. We can’t lose him to injury, but I wouldn’t mind him in a a few plays at WR. No returns for Seneca.

by Misfit74 on Sep 8, 2008 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree that seneca is better

but I think seneca is kinda maxed as a QB. I see alot more potential in Frye. Even on Madden ’09 Seneca is rated @ 81, Frye 80. So some experts may agree w. me.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joe Horn anyone?

crickets

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by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

you can take those thoughts over to the newstribune blog

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can also cure cancer, but neither will happen. ;-)

I wouldn’t mind D-Jack as long as he plays like he did in 2005.

Obviously my signature will tell you the opposite of what will actually happen. So 49ers 43 Seahawks 9.

by SSreporters on Sep 8, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've had a long hard day...

and not like, oh boo-hoo my works sucks, but like I have a family member who isn’t doing well. I just don’t have time to hound you man. You’re not getting it that being insipid and provocative are irritating and hurts the Field Gulls community. So consider this a chill the eff out ban, to be removed after one week.

by John Morgan on Sep 8, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

fighting aside...

D-JACK and K-ROB REUNION!!!! PLUS JERRY RICE!!!! PLUS ALEX BANNISTER!!!! FREAKIN RECREATE 04!!!! FTW!!!!

by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 8, 2008 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think I can handle that many drops.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

or Alex Bannister running poor slant routes

Although he was a ST stud

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh...memories of those slant routes...

I think I just threw up a little bit.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ya

total special teams ace. just like josh scobey, who i’ve seen pop up in your comments and stuff lately. you’re the first person that i’ve seen recognizing his gift other than me. god, i was so stoked when we signed him last year.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Sep 9, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

To bad his career is pretty much over.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 9, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, I'll be back tomorrow.

Life called. Sorry.

by John Morgan on Sep 8, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

take care of that

it’s waaaaaaay more important than ‘woe is us’ on the first Monday of the season…

by phil26687 on Sep 8, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

not its not :)

jk John. Do what you need to do and I hope all is well.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could see your house today by the way scruff

I was atop Mt Constitution on Orcas Island.

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aren't you going to Eastern?

Your a far way from school. If you could see Lake Whatcom thats where I grew up and if you could see the Port of Bellingham then you were probably looking right at me.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 8, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

School starts on the 19th

Right now is family vacation. Well minus my brother. So Dad, Mom, and I hit the San Juans for some R&R while the children are in school. They’re originally from Kenmore and Wedgewood/Bryant around Seattle and have memories they’d like to share with me.

It was the Port I was looking at. Constitution is the highest point in all the San Juans so look NNW and you’ll see where I was :)

I was the poor bastard that had Tom Brady on my Field Gulls fantasy football team.

by Chickadee on Sep 8, 2008 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Take your time

hope all is well.

by Nate Dogg on Sep 8, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Take all the time you need, John.

by BrianL on Sep 8, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Selfish.

Kidding. Take care.

by Teej on Sep 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeesh!

The only thing that has ever impressed me about Burly was his return game, but with this receiving core already in shambles, he is a big loss.

Carlson looks good and we need to use him more. I don’t know enough about football for any WR replacement options, but I would think there would be plenty of options in the free agent pool considering the attrition rate in the league. We don’t need a longterm replacement, just someone competent enough to run routes to open up the running game.

We badly need to get to our bye week 2-1. It’s definitely too early to write this season off, especially being in the NFC West, but we are on the brink of disaster after watching the game on Sunday. Our defense is competent, but our offense is shaky and special teams needs A LOT of work. It will be interesting to see how the Hawks respond against lesser teams these next two weeks.

by Wilder. on Sep 8, 2008 9:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs