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Why would you want Arizona to win?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I'm a sucker for Kurt Warner
As much as I hate the Cardinals. I may hate every other team more thats still in.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
What's wrong with the Eagles?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure
They just bug me for no good reason.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
I can't help but love McNabb, Samuel, Westbrook, Sheppard despite the benching, and Curtis...
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Love Kevin Curtis
maybe I’ll go with that
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I got the hots for Brenda
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Buck
I can’t stand this guy’s ‘everything is the most dramatic, greatest single event in the history of sport’s’ voice.
Inflection. Try it sometime.
What happens to you if the Cards win?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
If the Cards win
and then lose the Superbowl, then they won’t make the playoffs next year, which means we probably will.
If they win the Superbowl, their FAs will be overvalued, and people will sign them, which mean we’ll make the playoffs.
Meh, we broke that curse already.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just waiting for Brian Dawkins to sneak attack warner and send him back to jesus

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Sweet Jesus they're getting manhandled.
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badonkadonk to the house
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Fitz is a freakshow
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Fitzgerald is Jack Bauer in disguise
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If thats the case
We will probably see him strip Boldin at somepoint to get the TD himself
Bringin' the outside heat.
I'm with you.
God I hope they don’t play Pittsburgh if they win today. I don’t want to even consider what might happen.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Armageddon as predicted by Kurt Warner
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Aw, how cute.
Arizona suddenly has fans.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
Sorry to derail humor for a serious response but
It’s obvious and logical than support for a team will ebb and flow based on success. Sports, and more specifically winning, is the product that these teams put out. If the product is bad, people won’t consume it.
In fact if teams didn’t suffer fan support if they did badly, they would lose every incentive to do well, and that would – quite frankly – suck.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Real fans stick through the losing.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
There is a difference between sticking through
and paying money to see a game.
I’m not defending the AZ fans by the way, just the ebb and flow of support.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
If your point is that sports fans are fickle due to only caring when the team wins
I’ll agree, non Chicago Cubs fans are like that. I just don’t understand personally because I pay to see 100 loss Mariner teams and 12 loss Seahawks teams…I went to all 8 home games and like 65 of the M’s games this year, so I feel a little upset about fair weather fans in general. I don’t care if it’s an inevitability, it’s bullshit, you either like the team/sport, or you don’t. Don’t show up because they’re winning and it’s the cool thing to do, ya know?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
That wasn't exactly my point
And to be clear, I want AZ to lose like someone that bought Enron, waiting for them to die, sold what he had left for pennies on the dollar and bought AIG
I didn’t really have a point.
I do ask you (I only went to one Hawks game this year, but I live in Vancouver and am still in line for season tickets so I have excuses) how long you would pay for a bad team? At what stage would you start supporting them from home?
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know, live sports are really one of my favorite things, period. I'd probably do it until I couldn't afford it.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
I don't have a ton of expendable income.
I go to more games when teams are good than when they’re not because winning is more fun than losing. If I had more money it would be different, but I don’t (and at this point in history a lot of other people are in the same boat) so I go to fewer games. Keep in mind that Phoenix has been one of the areas hardest hit by the subprime clusterfuck.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Obvious and logical
Bandwagoners.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wow Donovan, I even saw that play was going nowhere before you even threw it.
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good lord listen to these douchebags.
did they port in fans from some other city to make noise
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Not many people who watch sports understand that to truly appreciate the highs of winning, you have to be here for the lows.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Truth :(
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Well it's the NFC championship
he has to dumb it down for all the non-hardcore people at home watching…
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Probably fairweather former Charger fans
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Alirght I'm going for the Eagles now
I forgot how much I hated the Cardinals defense.
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I keep wondering how Chike Okeafor is still in the league
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder why they don't use Buckhalter more if Westbrook is truly hurting. Buckhalter's not a bad back.
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he'll fall apart at the seams too. He has 5 bad knees
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And Buckhalter false starts...
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Did they use two kickers?
Because when we roll out our 2 kicker play, it will be more exciting I think.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Are they exploding?
Or is the voice over guys telling you in a condescending voice that trucks are designed by nerds?
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Dodge has leapt out to an early lead in the Truck wars
Chevy is really counting on Howie to be extra condescending if they hope to gain any ground.
Howie's mockery of the "Man Step" will win over millions of suburban Truck Guys
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Oh you guys get to see the oreos thing
Sadly I get Canadian adverts so I’m going to miss it.
I’m supporting the Williamseses
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Peyton is enough positive to root Mannings for me, even though I hate Eli.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I just prefer girls to guys.
Even if one of the girls looks like a guy, and one of the guys plays like a girl.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
hey look! it's eli manning furiously licking cream
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While looking and John favorite kind of women
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
jesus
looking *at John’s favorite kind of woman
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Edgerrin James is such a scrub
whhhyyyy does he still touch the ball
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Is she there right now?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
he's very tall
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Ive never heard of that basekatballs
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Sometimes it seems most TEs were BB players in college.
I think this observation has come up many times before on this blog.
5 career td's.
I guess when you have Fitz and Bolden you don’t need to have a catching TE
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I thought you were going to the game?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don't understand why he hates his crops,
they will keep him from going under if he treats them right.
I wonder...
If that is as Spicy as DQs Flamethrower. I hate that shit, I expect at least 3 stars worth of spiciness but its never anything but mild.
Bringin' the outside heat.
Garret Olson just got traded from Baltimore to Chicago for Felix Pie.
Just figure no one will see it during the game unless it’s posted here.
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Who are these people?
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Based on the name "felix pie" it must be baseball
Can you imagine a football player called Felix Pie?
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh, baseball. Got it.
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
already saw it. interesting trade for both teams.
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Where is Pie going to play in Baltimore?
Unless they move Jones to LF and have the best outfield defense ever
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
no. just no.
play him in platoon with Luke Scott. Markakis and Jones will not lose playing time to apple pie
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Speculation is he's either going to be the 4th OF or they're going to do this:
Pie>LF
Scott>DH
Huff>1B
That seems to make the most sense.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
McNabb?! Come on buddy he was wide open!
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how do you miss that badly
on a wide open receiver
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what the hell is going on here
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Good job Runyan
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
Why the fuck can't the Eagles catch a pass?
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what do you think McNabb would pay out of his own pocket for a real receiver?
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Hes got Jackson now
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Curtis isn't bad either.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Love Curtis
NFL smartest man!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Right about now the eagle's equipment manager is starting to regret his new idea
of putting olive oil on the gloves so they are more supple.
Jesus that was a Seattle-y play.
Droppedy drop drop
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
baskett makes those plays
because otherwise she’ll go back to Hef
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LET'S CHOP CATS
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Ok, I need a stream, so I can participate in watching the funny adverts.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
how about.. THIS
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what the fuck?
that’s not gone well
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That's ok, I worked out what you meant :)
works, thanks.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb219/CajoleJuice/letschopcats2.gif
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
chop those cats!
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Aw man, are you at work?
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
you have to be kidding me please god
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Fuck the playoffs.
It’s gonna be Cards/Steelers isn’t it?
Can I hope for a two-plane crash on the way to Tampa Bay?
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Sadly yes
My worst (within context) nightmare.
by GarethLewin on Jan 18, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe it'll be like 2005 where they don't play the Super Bowl and there is no Champion.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Wow how bad are the commentators?
“I don’t think I’d throw to anyone else on the field”
“Even if he is not open, throw it anyway”
Well it's obviously hyperbole
There’s a lot of shit to knock announcers for but lame jokes don’t seem too terrible.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
For what it's worth I know they're terrible.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I see myself turning this game off if things don't improve
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Sigh.
ALl this game is missing is the inevitable Pat Tillman reference
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
Fuck Pat Tillman in his corpse's ears.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
With a chainsaw.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
GET IT TOGETHER PHILLY!
It’s the freaking ARIZONA CARDINALS!
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A lot of luck
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well I'm gonna kick someone in the fuck if things don't improve.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
ARE YOU KIDDING ME! MCNABB IS A FUCKING JOKEStick
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I'll take him
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
WHITE LIGHTNING
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Whose dick does a guy have to suck to get a Curtis/Fitzgerald WR corps for the Seahawks?
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jesus dude
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Then find me this Jesus guy.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
How about just a Fitzgerald recieving corps
Because that’s all the Cardinals need
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think they just need to quadruple team him.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Is this Antwan Boldin guy related to Anquan Boldin at all?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
No problem, just being a spelling Nazi.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
NO, he's good, just not as good as Baby Jesus Fitzgerald
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
The Eagles are really going one step forward, two steps back it seems.
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Think Fitz's play this postseason
might give some teams a bigger boner for Crabtree?
Bringin' the outside heat.
Maybe. Good thing we have #4.
Too bad Ruskell will probably pick a DE.
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Crabtree's one of the few WRs I wouldn't be disappointed with in the first round.
If he’s the best player on the board, TR will take him.
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Whoa I didn't know Curtis had a Grizzly Adams beard going on.
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Speaking of B Russ
When does free agency start so we can give him a monster extension for his verteranosityism while ignoring other FA’s
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Dawkins is a monster.
I’d do it.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I'd probably do it, but I think we need a strong safety more than a free safety
Grant is probably just as good as Dawkins at this point.
Grant + Dawkins > Grant + Russell though.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Where did that burst of speed come from? You're Edgerrin James, slow down buddy.
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Sweet Jesus the Eagles forgot what defense is.
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Does anyone else think that Russell will be back with us next year? I've got a sinking feeling...
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Ruskell has an eye for grit, so probably
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
haha
But then we wouldn’t be so deep with mediocre veteran talent!
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
I honestly don't
I believe he’s a due a slight pay increase and the front office has to know he’s just not that talented. I think he’ll be cut at some point. Plus the team has decent safety depth with Babs and Adams.
I'd agree with that, but then why didn't Jamar Adams see any playing time near the end of they year?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
As a Seattle sports fan I'm wired to fear the worst automatically.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah basically
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
What the hell are you talking about?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Trick plays
no name offensive line blowing open holes
Great QB
Great matchups across the skill players
Defense that grows and plays strong at the point
Give this team a TE, and good God
It is what it is...
You did watch the regular season right?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
clearly not
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Teams grow in the playoffs
We can live in illusion no longer
AZ is growing up fast
It is what it is...
live in illusion?
jesus, dude
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Name one matchup we have in terms of players
that is better than AZ today, other than TE?
It is what it is...
Dude drugs are bad for you.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, you should use actual evidence instead of gut feelings.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
WWTroyAikmanDo
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Why do so many sports fans fear numbers?
They keep stats for a reason you know.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
that's a remarkable statement
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Oh my god I hate sports fans.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Did you ever play
and if you did, and you gave a damn about stats, you were already beaten
It is what it is...
I knew that was going to come up.
Yes, I played (baseball at least). Yes, real players know about stats, such as Brian Bannister. Real players are aware of advanced stats, some care, some don’t. None of them go up there thinking “Man, I need to improve my wOBA right now”….jesus fuck dude.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
That's not really the point though
Obviously Arizona shouldn’t give up because they had a lower DVOA than Philly, that would be silly. However it is important for coaches and front offices to look at the numbers to know how they’re team looks for the upcoming season.
This
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
No they weren't. They were a top 5 DVOA team that was 11-5.
They also lost their starting QB for a big game that season against the Jaguars.
Sweet Jesus dude, give up, you're not going to win.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't make them an elite team.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
No, it was a timing based joke
We don’t want AZ to win this game.
You said “You are not going to win”
And AZ scored a TD…
I got it, I wasn't sure if it was a joke or if you were serious.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Well, AZ had good draft picks for several years
And it’s finally paying off. One of the reasons I’m thankful for a good draft and a new, fresh coaching staff.
FInally no more of Cryptkeeper Walsh’s ancient WCO
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by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
What happened to the REAL Cardinals
You know, the ones from the NE game
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
I'd think the real Eagles are the one with the insane DVOA
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
No, that's not the REAL eagles
that’s the eagles that have an insane DVOA
The real eagles are the ones that just got hit by a 3rd TD.
cry
True, true
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
How can you penalize Philly for Fitzgerald falling down?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
you are kidding right
he was jacked up with the ball in teh air
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Yeah, I somehow didn't see that.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, this game getting out of hand
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
FUCK YOU BRUCE DEHAVEN
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
New strategy: Never press cover Larry Fitzgerald.
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I don't think the ravens can stop this kind of passing attack.
They’ll have to knock Warner out of the game.
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
Terrell Sugggggggssssss
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Don't challenge don't challenge don't--FUCK!
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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PHILLY?!
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They're just going through the motions now.
God damnit.
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
So I would love a lot of alcohol right now.
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Why does it matter if he touched it?
A kickoff is a live ball after 10 yards
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the only concern is if it went out of bounds
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right so buck and aikman just prove themselves stupider
for not at any point noticing that and completely swinging the concept of the play wrongly
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not if it did go out of bounds.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Oh thank god for silly asinine NFL rules.
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C'mon Eagles put 7 on the board before half, stay in this thing!
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Does Selek have pictures of McNabb and an underage family member?
Is there any reason McNabb will only throw it to him?
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions
Maybe it's because he can't actually throw accurately to anyone else.
Stupid missed throw to Avant when DeSean Jackson was open.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
And has a wicked moustache?
Yes.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
This is heartbreaking.
When Arizona beats Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl Seattle will never hear the end of it.
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I'd honestly have to root for Pittsburgh in that matchup.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I could never root for Pittsburgh
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you on that one.
At least Pitt has a good team.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, they're fun to watch when they're not playing teams I like.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
NO CATCH NO CATCH
Should’ve been a pick you shitty fucking CB
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
No, he's just a munchkin.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Eagles are truly playing like hell.
First the Cardinals get the Falcons, then Delhomme plays epically bad, and now the Eagles defense plays their worst game in half a season. Sheesh.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
But you have no way of proving this while we have hundreds of ways to disprove it.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think you can argue that a stretch of three games is proof of a team being good or bad.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
When you win when it matters
it makes all stats moot. This team is not just winning, it is dominating teams.
It is what it is...
THat doesn't mean they're likely to have sustained success.
Small sample size buddy.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
I said that about NE
a few years ago… I was wrong…. who knows… we will know next year at this time.
It is what it is...
So you're saying that bad/mediocre teams have never had dominant games against good teams?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I would suggest most coaches use statistics to supplement:
however, real game planning is based in player matchups and schemes.
The results show trends that Fantasy Football players can use to pretend to be a GM
It is what it is...
Are player matchups not based on statistics?
Maybe it’s all made up of grit and heart.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
agreed... well put...
I would suggest the scheme is less statistics based. Well stated.
It is what it is...
Choosing what schemes to use are very based in statistics
You don’t run a scheme if it doesn’t have a high percentage of being successful. See? Percentage? There ya go. It may be scary but anything can be broken down into a number, even if it seems blasphemous
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
If you can't make an argument without insulting people and misrepresenting what people are saying
you don’t have a good argument.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Theo Epstein has done a pretty good job of mixing stats and scouts.
And he’s more stat heavy. But you’re right, it’s played on the field, I’ll go back to my mom’s basement and jerk off to my X-Men comics or something because I’m obviously just a nerd who knows nothing about sports.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
No, I agree
Statistics are imortant. I am just discussing that what cannot be measured, attitude, “want-to”, presence, is what is growing in AZ.
Ken Wisenhunt is building in the mold of a Pittsburgh. It is showing. That was how this all started :)
There are no numbers for what we are watching.
AZ’s achilles and catalyst is Warner… Just as Hasselbeck is ours. But I like KW’s approach to building a team.
It is what it is...
"Want to?"
These guys are professional athletes, the idea that someone wants it more is ludicrous…
And there are numbers, and Warner is just not a superstar QB anymore.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
True.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Injuries happen too.
I’m not saying Hasselbeck is gonna be a superstar QB again, but to think that his passer rating or DVOA is reflective of his actual ability is silly.
Scouting matters too, I never said it didn’t. Sometimes you need to look at the cause of the numbers. Using numbers effectively is a process based analysis, not results based…soo….yeah.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I actually don't have a problem with the point you're making.
I think the Cardinals underperformed during the regular season. While I don’t think they’re as good as they’ve looked in the playoffs, I think they are going to be a good team for a few years to come. The issue is that your argument doesn’t make your point at all, and when you attack the use of statistics you make yourself look bad.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
yeah... poorly presented
I tend to get excited… I also deal with numbers all day at work, and cannot stand the use of them… our due diligence at the banking center I work at are used emotionally… thus making them moot… and making trending football an exhaustive concept.
Statistics are a good predictor of what you want to have happen. I’ll leave it there. It is what happens that determins the happening.
That said, the numbers this group runs for football are impressive… maybe someday I’ll be interested in them.
It is what it is...
"It is what happens that determins the happening"
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
True, but that doesn't make the prediction a bad idea.
Predictions can be wrong, but getting as close to a perfect prediction system is the goal, and why stats are good to use.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
So why do you read this site? And I'm not trying to be a dick when I say that.
I’m genuinely curious. It is very clearly numbers oriented, and you’ve just said that you don’t care about them. That’s fine; sports are about entertainment and you should enjoy them in whatever way you choose. But there’s lots of evidence that these numbers are really useful, and if you’re on the record as saying that you’re no interested in them, you shouldn’t be attacking their use.
There are lots and lots of places with communities that aren’t interested in statistical analysis. I just don’t understand why you’d choose this particular blog and then go about attacking it’s entire philosophy. And I’m not saying you shouldn’t hang out here, I’m just confused.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Cause I'm cooler then Nighthawk2
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
While I do not enjoy processing football numbers
I enjoy the passion and integrity this site brings.
I assume that is enough.
It is what it is...
No he's not.
Stop trying to make your argument look better by oversimplifying other people’s positions.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I never said I was arguing a position
I just think it is funny that a Seattle fan can hate another team so much as to cling to a number… what your watching is dominance… what we saw last week was dominance. What we saw in Wildcard was massive growth
AZ will come to play for years to come… they are becoming their coach:
Pittsburgh West
It is what it is...
Stop assuming you know what people's motivations are.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
AZ is playing pretty damn well today.
We’ll see what the future holds.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
No one said Arizona isn't dominating this game.
They are playing great football in the playoffs, you won’t see much disagreement on that, however 3 games is too small of a sample size to tell us anything about a team and that’s what makes the playoffs so fun.
A perfect example is the 2006 Seahawks who should of been destroyed by a superior Cowboys team.
Let me take some of that back
I don’t think Dallas should of “destroyed” Seattle, but they were the better team.
They probably were a TD or so better, for sure.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yup, this I agree with.
The fact that the game was at Qwest probably narrowed the gap a little as well.
Indeed. That's actually the first Seahawks win I ever attended.
Good times.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
We are watching them dominate Philly. They've had a good run in the playoffs.
We have no reason to believe that Arizona is going to be a playoff contender for years to come.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Number can give us the most precise possible way to analyze a team.
But things happen. The Kansas City Royals swept the Yankees at Yankee stadium a few years back. Does anyone think the Royals were better than the Yankees? Obviously not. When Arizona was #21 in DVOA, and Philly was in the top 5, it’s ridiculous to say that Arizona is the better team. Are they winning today? Yes. Are the playing better than the Eagles today? Fuck yes they are, much better. Are they a better team? No, they’re not. Things happen.
What I don’t understand is why people are always so down on numbers when 8/10 times stats folks predict a player’s success correctly and old traditional methods are more 50-50…despite this, people still believe we’re wrong and don’t understand the sport. Why? Check any offseason, especially baseball and compare SABR predictions to regular, and guess who usually is closer? I’m not claiming we’re always right, we’re just usually CLOSER which is the whole point of analyzing a sport in the first place—to get as close as we can to predicting future success. Signs don’t point to Arizona being a dominant power for years to come. It’s reactionary to think that’s what’s going to happen.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
More on the BAL/CHC Pie for Olson Swap:
MacPhail says that this trade is not a precursor to any other move, and that it’s likely the Orioles will go with Huff at first base, Pie in left, and Scott at DH.
Looks as though speculation was right.
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It's a good thing the Cubs have money because holy hell they are stupid.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously. The Orioles OF is going to be amazingly good on defense and solid on offense.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Too bad they play in the AL East.
The Orioles would compete for the division in the AL West. The Blue Jays would win the AL West. The Rays, Red Sox and Yankees are the three best teams in baseball and at least one of them will miss the playoffs. That division is just stupid.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
If I recall correctly, TB, BOS, NYY, and TOR all had over 90 wins based on pythag stats and such.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
The Blue Jays were the fifth (I think) best team in the AL last year using BaseRuns pythag.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
And they were actually better than the Yankees.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
That division is just disgusting.
Baltimore almost broke .500 (78 wins) last year too. Baltimore would probably win the AL or NL west…jesus.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
I think it would be hilarious if the Yankees and Red Sox had injury problems or people falling off a cliff left and right
and the Rays, Orioles and Jays all won 90+ games. It’s not likely but it’s within the realm of possibility.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
How do you give up 15 yards on a 3rd and 15 with a minute left in the half?
Honestly is John Marshall calling the plays for this defense?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I will say this... Kurt Warner is playing better than any QB left in the postseason right now.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions
Why are they not doubling Larry Fitzgerald on every play?
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Finally!
About freaking time to get pressure.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions
So are Holmgren coaching tree coaches unable to identify when teams are using copious amounts of screens against them?
I noticed we sucked against the Patriots Welker screen and never adjusted…seems like that’s too simple, and a good coach would have to adapt eventually.
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The Eagles are just overpursuing like crazy
They lack all discipline at this point.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Overpursuing on screens and runs.
Underpursuing and passive against the pass.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Is anyone else getting a feeling of deja vu from this game?
The Eagles defense is really reminding me of the 2008 Seahawks. Terrible zone blitz, giving up chunks of yards on 3rd down, not being able to defend the deep ball…
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions
Yeah, they also seem to rush 5-7 guys on 3rd and long.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
I like George Carlin's take on that.
He’s only there when they win, never when they lose. It’s never like “Well the good lord tripped me up behind the line of scrimmage today…”
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I hate having to use "was"...
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
That is maybe the easiest bet to make in the history of the world.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
If both sides pray, and only one team wins, it seems like somebody is wasting their time...
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you.
It just makes me wish failure on Warner more.
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
It's funny?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
This is why Eagles fans hate McNabb so much
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions
Missing open receivers like Curtis, that is.
That’s two easy touchdowns over the middle he’s missed.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
You beat me to it.
Seriously, McNabb is playing like hell. And then he fumbles.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Are we really shocked by this 1st half?
The freakin’ Eagles tied the Bengals!!!!!! Tied the Bengals…Donovan McNugget!!!
Yes, he'll miss a few receivers.
However, name me five better QBs
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think Rodgers needs more time to prove he isn't a one season success
But yes, I agree with the rest.
Warner is not better than McNabb
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
yes, warner is better than mcnabb
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How do you figure?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
More accurate, better decision maker, quicker release
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In any way I would look at it
Warner has the better career
The most SB rings
Better decision making
More godliness
Throws more accurately
(BTW all the above is subjectively measured, I haven’t looked up the numbers, I should)
I wouldn't take Warner over McNabb if I was building a team today.
McNabb has an 85.9 career passer rating and still has some value with his legs (3.8 YPA this year, 5.8 career) and is only what, 30 years old?
SB rings don’t matter.
Warner has a career 93.8 rating, better yes but much of his career was played in the dome in St. Louis with no wind or other factors. Warner’s peak>McNabb’s peak, but McNabb is the better QB today. I don’t buy Warner’s big 2008.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Football seasons are 16 games, a very small sample size, and weather never really factors in to Arizona's home games.
McNabb also has more value with his legs, and Warner hasn’t been a star for a few years before this year.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Oh and for that matter
the SB Rings was me comparing their careers, not them today. Although I do think at the end of the day SB rings matter in the sense that the goal is to win the SB.
he certainly knows how to take a sack
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I'll take that
Not sorted
Hass, Rivers, Peyton, Brees, Garcia.
BTW notice that I didn’t even need to use Brady’s name. I took that as a challenge because he didn’t play this year.
Oh, also I would take Kurt Warner over McNabb anyday.
I also Ben Roethlisberger is better than McNabb.
In fact he isn’t even in the top half of QBs left.
Of course you did put Hass in there which he most definitely did not deserve this year.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Bah I disagree
I think Hass played pretty well. But anyway… I still gave 7 people, so without Hass that’s 6 :)
I like Hass but I'll take McNabb of the two.
Rivers yeah, Peyton yeah, Brees yeah, can’t agree on Garcia. Not even sure about Brady—aside from 2008 which was greatly Moss aided, their career numbers aren’t too different.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
But you just hate Tom Brady
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
True, but come on, Matt Cassel ran a 90 passer rating in that system and he hadn't started a game since High School.
It can’t all be Brady being good.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I always thought Cassel could be a good QB
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know, he was a college backup for a reason...
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
CARSON PALMER AND MATT LEINART
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At the best QB school in the Nation
He could of transfered and probably started somewhere else.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
We've had this discussion before, but I'll repeat myself
All that proves is that the system is very good, and that Brady takes the very good system and makes it great(test ever?).
I would take Tom Brady of any QB in the league if I were starting a team, with the possible exception of Eli Manning.
I mean Peyton, was just funny to say Eli.
I'm with JM--Peyton is better than Brady.
Brady is an above average QB in a great system. I’m not convinced he’s an inner-circle hall of fame level QB. Not that he’s not good, but that system makes him look better.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'll always agree that Manning is better
but Brady has to be number 2 to me.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I got out of bed for this?
Screw this. I’m taking some NyQuil for this damn sinus infection and going back to sleep.
McNabb thought his backside was protected
But somehow something snuck into that unprotected backside of his
Bringin' the outside heat.
5 better QBs than McNabb...
1.Peyton
2.Big Ben
3.Brees
4.Brady
5.Warner
Can't agree on Warner still.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Then substitute in Rivers
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Fair enough.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Mine
Manning
Brady
Brees
Warner
Hass
Rivers
Romo
Ben
Cutler
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
oh Cutler is totally deserving I'm not sure how I missed that before
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Warner, Hass, and Romo just don't fit the bill to me, and Brady is iffy.
Brady’s career rating is 93 and he’s always had a better supporting cast…
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Not before Moss and Welker he didn't
Look at McNabbs jump in stats when they gave him TO. If your going to penalize Brady for Moss then you would have to take away that year for McNabb
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Look, you are entitled to your opinions, but the second part of that is plainly wrong.
Brady won a superbowl with Branch, Troy Brown, David Patten, and no real running back.
Arguing that McNabb is better than Brady is laughably bad
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Yeah, McNabb's career numbers didn't stack up as much as I expected them to.
I thought he had a year or two of MVP caliber play but I was wrong.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Christ
How rediculous is Fitz gonna be in Madden next year, that will be a pain in my balls
Bringin' the outside heat.
It'll be like Brady to Moss in this year's game.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
I never really do franchise
Which probably keeps me from getting my moneys worth, but oh well.
I just like to play the Hawks upcoming opponents throughout the week and online occasionally.
Bringin' the outside heat.
Guy Fieri from Food Network.
All his recipes suck.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
They especially suck on non-friday days
which is why he is so thankful it’s friday.
That joke sucks. I’m sorry.
Apology accepted.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Finally got back
This is why I love the NFL regardless of how much better your team may be its still possible on “Any given Sunday” that a lesser team can win.
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Absolutely. Me too.
I may hate it, but I love the possibilities for every team… except Detroit.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I love Statical analysis and I think its needed.
But once the game starts – all of it almost goes out the window.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder what the mortality rate would be for a 162 game NFL season.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Every time they show those douchebag fans in that stadium...
it hurts my soul a little bit more.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions
I hate fans that wave towels.
In fact I hate whenever a team has a tradition, and then other teams’ fans copy it.
What next? The University of Arizona Leap?
The Cardinals have a drum line now, did you know that?
It’s funny in how pathetic it is.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
The stole it from us
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
How can you steal something that has been done in 'football'
for years… LOL… are we going to take credit for the wave now ?
It is what it is...
Actually the Wave was started in Seattle
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
NOT started in seattle.
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But much better in Seattle
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-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
I hate it when teams with no history or tradition of their own borrow other people's instead of being creative.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
like the rally monkey?
Sometimes borrowing is more refreshing than being creative
Bill Scott, a Seattle bartender, started selling beer to football crowds at Seattle’s Kingdome in 1976. He loved selling beer and seeing people cheering and encouraged everyone to follow his cheers. He could be heard all over the Kingdome and would lead one side of the stadium and then the other in cheering contests. It was Bill the Beerman who created the Wave in the Kingdome in the 1970s
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
There are only a few of them...
They never know when to go to them during breaks, you can’t even hear them at all.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
WHITE JESUS!
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If they come away with a field goal, I don't think they'll feel good about it.
Troy has a firm grasp of the obvious
Troy has some serious hate on for the Eagles
So obvious, it’ sembarrassing.
Ah, the patented Andy Reid goalline offense.
Never disappoints to disappoint.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions
Holy crap, McNabb made a good throw!
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
why not go for two there?
PAT leaves them down eleven and needing two TD’s
2-pt would have left them down ten and needing a TD and FG
And
they were down 16, and two TDs with 2pt conversions woulda tied, and even if they missed then they arent really in any worse shape because they still need 2 TDs right now
Bringin' the outside heat.
Finally getting some pressure on Warner. Please more.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions
Man McNabb had a guy open over the middle...
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The crowd suddenly doesn't seem quite as loud.
The fans are trying to understand what quarter it is first.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions
Completely random
But you know that girl in high school that every guy wanted. And every guy thought he could get with her. Well I never thought way because I moon’d her in 3rd grade. Anyway I saw her today at starbucks and she still remembers that.
At least I left a lasting impression.
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I like this story.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
By the way I'm convinced McNabb's not a top 5 QB, you guys sold me.
But he’s top 10-15 for sure.
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Agreed
He’s not bad. Just not great.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'd say above average at least. An 86 career passer rating is solid.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I love DeSean Jackson
Even though he cost my a TD with that toss before crossing the plane this year.
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I'm going to absolutely love the beer run I will be going on between games. One bottle of beer is just no good.
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Empty from last Friday's party, and I don't have the money for a new one.
The beer I’m getting today is on a friend.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Well the kegerator is next to me
But it has no keg.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
To Bad I'm in Bellingham
I need help drinking all this
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Come down next time I have a keg in the kegerator and you'll understand how hard it is to drink all you have.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
I’m getting a Kegerator eventually. I’m going to run a tap line into the bonus room above the garage.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Good call. Mine's just a single tap. I got a Haier and I'm pretty happy with it, though I'm terrible at figuring out the CO2
Regardless, it poured with a good head, and I have the tap handle for Mac & Jacks. I’m thinking Sierra Nevada Pale or Manny’s depending on availabilty at my keg mart.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
My buddy works for Pepsi
So I’ll have him deal with the CO2
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I can make it flow but the gauge doesn't really read, I just am super careful with it.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
OK great and wise football gurus...
Am i crazy or was the card running game kind of successful earlier in the game…could they use the next series to take advantage of the Philly aggression and set up some draws or play action short stuff…not that I want the cards to win but I hate when teams abandon the run so quickly…
Good call as the Cards open with the run
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT
DID YOU SEE AVANT TAKE OUT TWO MOFUCKAS
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That was awesome.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
JACK BAUER WOULD BE PROUD
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
JACK BAUER WOULD GO FOR TWO
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Baskett not Avant
His new Playmate fiancee is pleased.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
YESSSS!!
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions
David Akers is having a pretty awful game.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:30 PM PST reply actions
What else has he done?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
kicks out of bounds
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Missed a field goal, kicked the last one out of bounds.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Indoor dome with no wind?
Not a chip shot but one you should hit.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Just saying it was nowhere
near as bad as the out of bounds kickoff and the missed extra point attempt.
Now that is true.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Well I'm glad someone called me and woke me up.
Forget the missed XPA. Why the hell do you not go for two when you’re down by five?
K. Warner with one reception for 3 yards :o
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THATS WHAT JACK BAUER SAID!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Two things
1. How is Edgerrin James employed
2. How is Edgerrin James employed by a playoff team?
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I think its amazing he is still playing
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
im on mute because im on the phone
I assume it was like this:
if you make it you get 2 points
if you dont you get zero
you have to think andy reid is wishing he had made that extra point because I’m a douchebag
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Dawkins makin' some noise, good to see.
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AND DONE
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Whatever John had he gave me.
Right now it feels like someone put my head in a vice.
ugh
Thats how I felt after dealing with Best Buy on friday
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Warner's looking pretty old right about now.
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I'm glad I went on the walk with my wife when I did
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
This game reminds me a lot of the first Hawks game against Arizona.
Hopefully it ends better though.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions
so the eagles can crap the bed in the superbowl
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not surprised
this is a VERY wiggly house of cards they’ve got going
if you ever become one, please make your first target Russell
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Was there ever any explanation why Holmgren didn't use this more often?
I thought that was gonna be a focal point of our offense.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Well Alexander issues receiving
but last year we started to use it but not often enough
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Jackpot!
Found three Sierra Nevada Pale Ales for some reason hidden in my true mini-fridge’s ice chest.
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hotmail me one
I think the attachment size is small enough.
he's a man's man
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HOLY CAT TESTICLES
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WHAT A GREAT CATCH!!
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions
Or have a terrible play call. Either way.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
And Donovan McNabb is a perfect QB to run the play with too.
I don’t understand what the heck they were trying to do there.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, line up in the shotgun, they'll have a three man defensive front, and it's easy money.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
THIS IS LIKE THE ROMO PLAY BUT IN GAME FORM FROM A NEUTRAL POINT OF VIEW
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They're getting to Warner faster so that Fitzgerald can't get deep.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
McNabb still throws one of the best deep balls in the game.
its just every other part of his game that is underwhelming
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Only got three, gonna down this one, then go on a beer run after this game. 2 beers in 3 hours is fine for driving but not for football.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Come on Philly just score one more TD...
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Maybe Aikman and buck were right about throwing to him every time.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
yeah insert joke here
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Whisenhunt's going to go for it and get it, huh?
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NOW STOP THEM
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions
HOLD THE LINE HOLD THE LINE
COME ON PHILLY!!
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How the fuck did they not see that coming?
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shit
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Good play call. The middle was stuffed.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:53 PM PST reply actions
I have a feeling Arizona is gonna score on this drive...
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Joke?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
The 4th down conversion was huge....I think Arizona scores here.
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they are in the red zone...
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What the hell is Anquan Boldin doing?
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions
I'm Suprised Moss doesn't hold the record
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
He does look like the chiefing type.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
My copy of Bob Marley's greatest hits should go to him then.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Fitz go get it
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absolutely not
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did he not look white there?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
That Rackers will shank
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
So....quad cover Fitz, tell everyone else to hang out.
Win will be accomplished.
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So old time Rock N' Roll isn't even in guitar hero, if I remember correctly.
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Wiz playing for the FG
I hate when guys do that.
Take one shot. You make it you pretty much win. A made FG gives the defense far less margin for error.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
2:53 left, one score game. How is that over?
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You'd think they would be able to stop that screen at some point.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions
Andy Reid is part of the Holmgren coaching tree, they don't believe in defending screens
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just saying we can
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
't defend the screen either.
Fuck you, SBN 2.0
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
So....if they lose this is David Akers fault right?
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LATE
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I say the defensive scheming in the first half lost the game.
Akers gave up, what, 5 points?
Missed field goal, missed PAT, and had to go for two because of the missed PAT (which failed).
The little engine that could?
WTF, worst metaphor ever.
especially while single covering Fitz.
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The Little Engine That Could?
That’s not patronizing at all, Joe Buck.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions
I still think Philly is the clearly superior team here....
It’s a shame they’re not gonna win.
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they'd be the clearly superior team with a better QB
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why is everyone ragging on McNabb?
He’s got what, a rookie WR and a bunch of scrubs… Brent Celek, a hobbled Westbrook.
he was putrid for 2/3 of the game.
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you're only as good as your weapons
I kind of doubt Warner would be having as much success on the eagles
They've missed a lot of opportunities though.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
classic mcnabb double clutch bad decision
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he and LT can buy a condo in south florida together
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:( I love that guy.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
He is just to small to shoulder the load he gets
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Joe Buck has never been a fan.
After yelling you don’t hold your breath, you try really hard to regain your breath.
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McNabb's playing like it's the 1st half again...
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I think he just threw up in the huddle
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
He can't take the pressure!
:o
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
This is why we've been ragging on Donovan McNabb.
He’s been missing open receivers all game.
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by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions
STOP PLAYING LIKE A CUNT YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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McNabb is a lot like Hass it seems.
When he’s on, he’s unstoppable, and when he’s off, he’s putrid.
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Dear Brett J Miller
I really am a poor QB most of the time, and occasionally throw gorgeous bombs. See the last few throws as proof of my inability to make good short/medium throws/decisions.
Sincerely,
Chunky Soup McNabb
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Dear abender20,
He’s been above average his whole career and this game does nothing to prove otherwise.
Sincerely,
Logic.
But seriously, good players have bad games…..
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
false
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Where is your fucking porrg that he's not at least above average?
An 86 passer rating QB who is mobile. How can you argue that he’s just not good?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
but then his lamb would not get another ring
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Come on Robert. You had to see this coming.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
weather here IS sweet
and I did take a hike yesterday. Thanks peypey
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Its really nice right now outside
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
We get to beat the SB champs twice next year
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
In east coast bias
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck them hard.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Nothing will ever change people's perception of the NFC West
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Evidence: Seattle Seahawks 2005
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Especially next year when Warner retires, Leinart takes over
and Arizona returns to the bottom of the pile
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
God I hope Leinart takes over for them.
He’s just not good.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
He’s not good now, but he still has potential. He was pretty good at U$C.
The division wasn't good...
but that happens every year. For some reason the NFC West gets dogged even harder—and I don’t think I’m exaggerating on that. The Cards going to the big game at least makes the division less of a story.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
But why should we care about this "story"?
All I know is that Arizona is a hated division rival, so fuck ’em.
That's my take
not sure why all the negativity.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Fuck Arizona
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Horrible for the division.
I hate this idea that you should root for your division when you lose. They’re your rivals for a reason and you’re supposed to bleed hate for them like you bleed love for your team. Nothing hurts me more than seeing the Angels play well, for instance.
I’m rooting for Pittsburgh over Arizona for sure. If we can’t beat them, Arizona doesn’t deserve the fucking honor.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Cards, because if we can't beat the Steelers in the Super Bowl, our divsion Rivals don't deserve to.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I hope so
But if they do, and my #2 team Baltimore loses to the fucking shitty ass, bandwagon-gathering Cardinals, I’m going to die.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 18, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
I can't say that take is wrong
I just take the opposite tack. I like it when local rivalries take on national importance. That’s what this means for next year. Arizona will be favored to run away with the division. Hopefully we’ll be back and when we beat them it “means” a little more to national audience.
Once upon a time nobody cared about New England v Miami outside those two cities.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
what the FUCK?
MAKE THE FUCKING CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is bulshit!
I'm rooting Cards...
but you gotta drop the flag on that.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
that's the easiest way to blow the game
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
That one right there
There was no push
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
reply fail
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
WELL IT APPEARS MY LIFE JUST GREW A ASSHOLE
I WONDER WHAT I WILL DO WITH THIS NEW FOUND ORIFICE.
OH HAYS SOMETHING JUST FUCKED IT . THAT WAS NOT AT ALL EXPECTED
by Robert on Jan 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
total gift.
that guy doesn’t grab Curtis’s legs, Curtis has the ball and a down defender. Coulda been a touchdown?
LOOK AT IT AGAIN
No he did not
The ball was thrown behind him
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
BEHIND him?
The ball landed in front of him.
after he turned and adjusted yes
from his intended route, no
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Curtis had to stop his momentum to slow down to even have a chance.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
yup. Another poor McNabb throw in a sea of bad mcnabb throws today
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
there's no such thing as an "intended route" in the WCO
you adjust on the fly. The ball was there, so was the receiver. If he’s not falling, it’s probably a catch.
so all the recievers are expected to run routes at 6 inches off the ground to make up for mcnabb's throws?
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
I'm talking about that one play.
The ball wasn’t high, Curtis’s feet were grabbed by the DB so he was knocked to his knees.
There is no evidence that his feet were grabbed
On both replays
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
What?
The WCO is completely timing based. You throw to a spot. Curtis went to his knees so he wouldn’t over run the throw
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
sort of not true
the receiver will make judgements mid-route depending on the coverage.
i remember this very well from an article SI ran about 15 years ago when San Fran’s WCO was carving up the league. It had big pics of game action with multiple arrows showing how receivers/backs etc. would change routes on the fly as coverage differed.
Curtis could possibly have adjusted to two or three different routes based on what the CB was doing. CB plays inside, he goes to an out or hitch out… outside and he slants in.
But not all routes are option routes
Anyway unless we can get a decent replay we won’t be able to really tell if there was PI or not.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 18, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure the WCO has defined routes
You don’t get to just make up whatever you want and slap WCO in front of it
McNabb's been throwing like crap that whole drive but Curtis should've had that one.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with Brett.
hate to say it, but I’m rooting for the fucking STEALERS.
They’re in a better position to bea tthe Cards in the super bowl.
even better, the Ravens win.
I’d rather watch bowling than a Cards/Ravens superbowl.
At least I won't be as angry if the Cards win that way.
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 18, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
donkey fuck
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Ugh. I have to watch a Super Bowl with the Cards in it. Awesome.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Jan 18, 2009 3:20 PM PST reply actions
We are the champions?
Not original, and not even true. At least wait until WINNING the superbowl.
They're the NFC Champions
and if that doesn’t seep into your brain and give you an aneurism 10 years from now I don’t know what will.
We going to have another thread for the Ravens/Steelers game?
I don’t want to look at this shit anymore.
Go not Cardinals!
Seriously, I’m not sure I want to watch the Super bowl anymore….
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I hate to say it but...
The Vegas # is going to be way to big against Your NFC Champion Cardinals…Steelers favored by 9 0r 10 Ravens favored by 6 or 7…pound the Cards in that one peeps…just sayin’…

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