Leroy Hill faces marijuana charge
by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2009 5:41 PM PST
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Seattle Seahawks linebacker Leroy Hill faces a misdemeanor charge for marijuana possession after authorities found him passed out behind the wheel at an intersection in suburban Atlanta, according to authorities.
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Hill, 26, is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent Feb. 27.
A third-round choice from Clemson in 2005, Hill has led the Seahawks in tackles or tied for the lead five times in seven playoff games. He started Super Bowl XL as a rookie and has started 50 regular-season games in four NFL seasons, all with Seattle.
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Ugh. Bad timing right before free agency.
Damn Leroy….I’m only a few hours south of Atlanta, you could have totally crashed at my pad.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
Meh, it's just weed. It sucks, but it's not really even as bad as an alcohol DUI. Driving was the dumb thing he did.
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A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Hopefully this is just an isolated incident like Tatupu's DUI last year
He’ll be fine, so long as he shows enough remorse and says the right things.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Chance of suspension, I think, too.
Hill could be suspended by the NFL under the league’s substance-abuse policy. First-time offenders are subject to suspensions ranging from one to four games.
Thanks for the link Misfit
Really sucks. Issue isn’t just that it was less than an ounce, and he’ll get through it. He just created a lot of unknowns. How will the commish react (will he be eligible to play 16 games next year?), and how will the pending court proceedings and probable court ordered treatment and community service affect his training, mindset and ultimately his play on the field. He was already a bit of a risk due to injury history. He just created more. On the plus side, may have made it easier to re-sign him, and he probably just created a little more cap room.
Doubtful TR would throw away the 4th overall like that.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 24, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
God damn it Leroy
Not only did you diminish your FA potential, now it isn’t a guarantee we’ll actively pursue him. And that opens the door to Curry, who will cost more with no sure thing he’ll be great.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
according to Sando
it sounds like it was Leroy’s consent to the police search that did him in. If he’d politely declined the police probably would have done a BAC, and judging from the lack of additional alcohol charges he might have gone off with a warning.
I was confused by the way Sando characterized it
that makes sense, but saying Hill consented to the search suggests he had a choice in the matter.
"Consent" just might be what they call not "resisting".
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Jan 25, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
even with probable cause
the cops probably asked for consent for search. it’s smarter to cover your bases like that. If he had said ‘no’ then they would have considered if they had probably cause to do it on their own.
it’s amazing how frequently people consent to searches when they have something illegal…
by Snuffleupagus on Jan 26, 2009 6:07 AM PST up reply actions
What disturbs me is that he was asleep at an intersection
I had a very active youth, but I’ve never been nor have ever known anyone who has been so high as to fall asleep at the wheel. Even if it was simple fatigue, driving that tired is much more dangerous than driving stoned. I worry it wasn’t simple fatigue.
He did tell the police
that he had a “couple” of drinks with some college buddies. I blame Holmgren for taking them to see Pineapple Express last summer.
Tatupu should take notes
if you’ve got an old car, don’t pick a Hyundai
Plenty of room to pass out in that car. even behind the wheel.
So comfortable you could easily pass out driving the thing, maybe we need to lighten up on Leroy. I’m betting it has a trunk that can comfortably seat six.
75 Buick Electra
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 25, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Soooooo Leroy rolls in a 75' Buick,
and Lofa cruises around in a late model Hyundai, what the hell does Julian drive? An 1982 Dodge Aries K car??
Beer, its not just for breakfast anymore.
A 1972 Mercury....Morris!
Har har i so funnay
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jan 26, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
What a moron.
This is going to cost him sooo much money. He had to make it through about two months of off-season without getting in trouble to cash in and he couldn’t pull it off. What an idiot. With so much money on the line, if you have to roll around after drinking, weed, and POSSESSING THE FUCKING CHRONIC- DO IT IN THE BACK OF A LIMO. The cost of taking a limo everywhere he went for the entire period until he got signed was much less than what he will lose now.
I don’t understand these stupid athletes, I would only ride a limo in an FA offseason if it was my career, but that might be because I am a scientist and not an athlete… wait no, these guys are just stupid.
decisions
While I agree with you that a series of poor choices were made, there sounds to be a chance he actually may have a problem beyond decision-making. A true problem of addiction is not an issue of stupidity. Without being in Leroy’s shoes, I have no way of knowing that. The evidence is strongly against him. However, dismissing it as strictly an act of stupidity might be ignorance.
You can only get addicted to the physical act of smoking marijuana.
Like John said, the drug itself is not addictive.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Jan 26, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I've never smoked before.
So the ritual of lighting up the grass is addictive, but not the actually herb itself?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jan 26, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
People form smoking habits
but it doesn’t hook someone like nicotine or morphine.
by John Morgan on Jan 26, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
maybe not physically
but I don’t think there’s any question it’s “addictive”. I know many, many people who have wanted to quit and couldn’t.
I believe this is true. There is far more to addiction or alcoholism than physically addictive properties of a specific substance.
This is probably not the forum for all that, though.
False?
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by BrettJMiller on Jan 26, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
cue bob sagat...
“Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that’s an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana?”
nope.
I didn’t dismiss the blazing as stupidity. Just driving when he can easily afford to roll around in a limo…
by michaelfox99 on Jan 25, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
ugh, heresy.
"It's just one big guy against another big guy, both teams know what's at stake. The one of them comes out on top and it feels good."
-Chris Collinsworth, Madden 09
by Wayward Llama on Jan 25, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
OMG bad mental image
Especially after his final play of the season was that awesome smash-stuff of Barber on Thanksgiving.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jan 25, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
I think everyone is over reacting to this a bit
I doubt a minor marijuana charge is going to affect Ruskell’s interest much, and it’s certainly not going to cost him any money. His downturn in production however might. We’re maybe talking about a game or two suspension.
Getting suspended one game is going to cost him one games pay.
And any red flag I imagine will reduce his value a little bit. 20 million down to 19 million is a small percentage, but it’s still a million dollars…
Wouldn't this possibly make him a little cheaper to sign for Ruskell?
If Ruskell can forget about the minor charge do you think he could use this as leverage to giving him less money? Or less guaranteed money and a clause to take away something or other if charged again?….Shows my knowledge concerning contracts, don’t I sound smart……………
But then again I could just be talking out of my ass because it is not like every team in the league will care about this, and he could just give Seattle a big “Fuck You” and go sign somewhere else for more money anyways.
Probably.
I don’t think him leaving will cripple our defense like our offense like when Hutch left, but if we want our defense to reach something resembling elite, it would be advisable to keep a young promising star like him.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jan 26, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I used to care...
…until somehow John threw me off with the whole coverage thing.
How good is Bart Scott?
I don't care at all.
I think a lot of what he does is a product of playing next to one of the best MLB OLB combinations in the league (except maybe this past year, looking at you Tatupu). I think a DD Lewis would be more than fine if it meant we spent our money elsewhere (Dawkins for a season, Suggs or Peppers or Haynesworth long term… drool).
Ruskell will never sign Haynesworth.
I’m glad, as his services will likely be bid up higher than he’s worth, killing our cap.
He also has some big injury red flags, and is on the wrong side of the DT aging curve.
If our new defense means we're not going to blitz our LB's,
…than I’d say let Leroy go unless he’s cheap. Though he’s a tackle machine, he’s not much for coverage.
I’m sure there is a serviceable OLB vet out there that fits the bill, or we all know that Ruskell can find LB’s in the draft in the mid-rounds.
Scruffy Lefty I completely agree with you. In fact I see us letting him walk and picking up Zach Follett in the 3rd or 4th round. He is a LB who fits Ruskell mold and is a Cal grad. Started almost all his years at Cal. Leader of the defense. Good in coverage and understands gap assignments. High motor. Even though Cal runs a 3-4 defense, Follett should be very good Weak side and great Strong side. At 245, he is prototypical size, his only knocks is his height 5’11 and not fast enough to stay with elite TE but that is why we have JP.
FYI, try to use the reply button at the bottom of a comment when responding to a specific post.
It helps promote comment flow and generally makes discussions easier to follow. It’s one of the nice SBN quirks.
Haynesworth???
If Ruskell has a problem with Hill’s misdemeanor possession charge, I doubt he’ll be coveting Haynesworth. I’d rather see them pay 7-8 million per year to Suggs or Peppers though, than about the same amount to the #4 pick, so I agree with you there. I’m not aware of any behaviour issues with either of them (am I missing something?).
Suggs said publicly that he, Scott, and Ray Lewis should all stay in Baltimore and give the Ravens a discount on their services.
Sounds to me like he wants to stay there
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Players always have ideas of sticking together,
but then money talks ane one of them leaves.
It’s like when Baron Davis signed with the Clips to play with Elton Brand, and they texted a lot about how good their team was going to be. Then Philly made Brand a better offer, and Brand stopped texting Davis and bolted for the money.
Not that I blame them though. The only reason I wouldn’t bolt for more money is if I:
A) couldn’t imagine ever spending that much money.
B) Didnt’ like the new city or loved the old one.
C) Was in a position like WR, which is really dependant on the QB, and a team like Chicago was offering me the extra money, which would set me up for retirement, but also possibly end my career.
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