Agog Over Jake Locker Open Thread
by John Morgan on Oct 10, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
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Great googly moogly
didn’t see the game, but I HAVE seen Crompton.
Wow.
Now, I’m not one to gossip, and you didn’t hear this from me… but…
Has anyone done less with more than Richt? Maybe just those of us down here in the deep South are inundated every year with how great Georgia is going to be, and they are a perennial disappointment. I kinda thought they might be rebuilding this year but yeesh. A tough road loss at Ok State to start the season isn’t that big of a deal—even of Ok State looks a bit overrated. But getting run by Tennessee’s offense is just bad.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Or why someone will draft Jeremiah Masoli!
Go Ducks homerism!
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions
If by "interesting," you mean "cerebral"
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
A little off-topic.
I just saw on the NFL Network bottom line that we released Michael Bennett and signed Kyle Williams from the practice-squad. Damn.
Yeah, I was looking and couldn't find it.
I’d trust NFL network though, and with the injuries on the O-line, I’m actually surprised Bennett has lasted this long.
For those of you watching the Duck game, and don't know already
Our TE Ed Dickenson just might be our best prospect for the NFL. Great speed and ball skills. Gets seperation. Plows smaller DB’s. Keep an eye out.
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
i wouldnt mind having walter thurmond and tj ward in a seahawk jersey though
by somepnoy9189 on Oct 10, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Thurmond is so clutch to me
It’s like having Robert Horry as a cornerback.
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think TE is kind of low on our list of needs
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
His middle name is Don
Jevan “Don” Snead
/not a true story
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I'm constantly astonished that cows are smart enough to wander an office building toggling lights to form words,
yet are incapable of spelling chicken.
He's sensative to loud noises
I’m sure that won’t be a problem in Death Valley. Also, long term depression is for pussies.
I am still determining my lineup
There’s a good deal on Rasputin, but the weather isn’t right. I’ve been dying to get another Prevale, but I want something else too.
Haven't had Dragon' Milk
All Dogfish has a similar malt characteristic to me. It works with some of their styles, but not others. I am actually not a fan of their IPAs for that reason.
Of all the Dogfish products, I really like Raison and the Marron. Both work perfectly for my tastes.
It's interesting.
I mean, not “interesting” the way Midas Touch or 120 Minute is, but interesting in that I have no idea what it is or whether I like it or not.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Stores that carry Dogfish out here generally have Raison, 90, Midas Touch, Marron, and occasionally World Wide Stout.
The Baton is interesting enough to make me want to try it, though.
Definitely pick one up when you're back this way.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The list of beers I need to hunt down in my 5 day stint in Seattle in December is such
that I will either spend the majority of my time there inebriated or hospitalized.
You could always ship back a bunch of it.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not like I can't find good beer here.
In fact, there’s a store near my friend’s place downtown that has Lost Abbey (amongst other great stuff).
It's always what you can't get that you want the most though.
I would consider regicide if I could get Speedway Stout in exchange for the deed.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually had Allagash aplenty in LA and liked it.
I thought the Grand Cru was the best of what I found readily available.
NOLA says I am crazy for what it is worth.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
What about the beer Dogfish is making with mouth-chewed corn?
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait to try it!
Sam Calagione is a crazy person, but he’s never steered me wrong before.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
They make a special Raison d'extra sometimes
By brother got me a bottle one year for xmas. It was about 20% (yeah, I thought it wasn’t possible) and tasted like a bubbly bitter-sweet port.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Of the three mega-alcohol Dogfish beers
(World Wide, 120 Minute and Raison d’extra) 120 Minute is definitely my favorite.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I might be getting too old for good beers
I bought a 22 of the Stone 13th anniversary last night and barely made it through the bottle. It was tasty stuff, but at 9.3% and super malty, it did a job on me. This morning, I had to get on the banana-gatorade-Excedrin regime.
I also got a special edition Black Butte made with coffee and partially cask-aged that should be a fun one.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I am thinking about it
6.99 for a four pack is pretty excellent. Rasputin is one of my favorites. Had a friend of a friend goad me to chug it once, that was a stumbly night between bars.
Oh yeah
Maybe grab the new Vertical Epic while I am at it. Depends on when I wake up enough to get my tape work done. Kind of looked up and it was 4am last night so I am still firing up.
The weather isn't right for an Impy stout?
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I always forget you live down south for some reason.
It’s Cold and overcast and windy and gross here in beautiful central Seattle.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The last time I was up
I decided to stay in Portland. Seattle is great, but Portland has much of the same art scene without the claustrophobia of a city or the ocean weather.
The only thing I prefer about Seattle is the higher density.
And the being able to have a job. That’s nice, too.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in Portland last night and the thing I have noticed every time I've been there
is that there seems to be a not insignificant contingent of the homeless that are fiercely devoted to enforcing the traffic laws in the downtown area.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that he doesn't have his issues...
but that last pick really was more on the receiver, it looked.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I wasn't criticizing that last pick so much
as his consistent inability to make good decisions or accurate throws.
Well yeah. There *is* that whole accuracy/decision-making thing.
I mean, if you wanna nitpick.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
He missed 2 wide open short passes that would have kept them ahead of the chains in that drive
Now ’Bama just blocked a punt.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I can't wait until the SEC produces another batch of bad NFL QBs
Such legends like Pat Sullivan, Steve Spurrier, Danny Wuerffel, David Greene, JaMarcus Russell, Clint Stoerner, Heath Shuler, Rex Grossman, Brodie Croyle, Jason Campbell, etc.
Not even Peyton and Eli can outweigh the SEC’s profound history of sucky NFL QBs.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Add Kenny Stabler to the good list along with Archie Manning and Bert Jones
And add Tim Couch to the awful list along with Shane Matthews.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
For those watching Oregon-UCLA
Mike Price-DT UCLA is having a great game. Another beast. DT is loaded for the draft.
what network?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
ah, we get the Big 10
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
S. Carolina
all our other games were early
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Dude, you have no idea
I’m just glad we have fantastic weather this time of year, and that even the rednecks are nice—in the daytime.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I was in Seattle for the Chi game, but didn't get any further south this trip
and the weather was indeed magnificent. If I was ever going to move I’d look out there.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Today, it's glorious -- though I haven't been out a ton today
It’s 70ish, sunny right now (though rain in the area). It probably won’t get consistently cool until Halloween.
If you’ve never been here to see Charleston and the sea coast islands, you simply must. I’m in Columbia, which is inland but still a good-looking town.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I've been
My mother’s side is from the Carolinas. I think there’s some of the best beaches in the country out there.
OK, well you know how brutal the summer is
only Arizona is worse.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I've lived in Vegas
Weather in the summer is brutal. I hated having to do PE class when it was 95 degrees. Fall and winter are surprisingly pleasant.
On occasion it has even snowed in December/January.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
I think if you have ADD your head might explode on the strip
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I was a kid
So the Strip never really did anything for me.
Actually the entire city never did anything for me.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Poker machines in the gas station
Was a marvel.
Luckily neither of my parents gamble so that’s a plus. Them not gambling means we had the money to move here.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
I lived in Tempe for a few years
It was the extreme heat that killed me, it was the long summers and the lack of seasons. It was just soul-sucking to have 100 degree days in late October and to have the years just bleed into the next. I need trees and rain and (to see) snow-capped mountains to feel right.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
defense needed a TO there
to respond to the unbalanced line.
This game looks over, but then I’m a Missouri fan and was thinking the same thing on Thursday—much to my dismay.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
'Bama quick-snapped 'em.
Really just a nice play by them.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Super cool story bro
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oregon is lighting it up in the 2nd half
Returned the kickoff, and then pick six on UCLA’s first play.
Oh come on
When will UCLA get decent QBs?
At least my “Oregon will win the Pac-10” proclamation has just been revived.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Tebow now anchors the "grission" scale
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
The part of his brain that was damaged
Was the part that had impure thoughts about using Cannabis and murdering babies.
That’s what was planned. He’s just genius.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
OT: The new V
I don’t know if any of you are old enough to remember the mini-series V, about an alien takeover. ABC is remaking it. Wow, that show was hokey. These folks are officially out of town.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
By the time it got the SciFi it's campy
Back in the day it took itself completely seriously. it was vomitous.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Speaking as a child back in the 80s.
V scared the shit out of me.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 11, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
UCLA I feel your pain
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
"They have literally sucked all the wind out of this Ole Miss offensive team"
Well that’s bad. Like that demon from Cat’s Eye.
Nice reference there, JM
A forgotten about Stephen King “classic” movie
"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson
by Willie Mays Haze on Oct 10, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohio State gets a pick 6 vs Wisc
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
4 zero-yard drives will NOT help your FEI
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Literally
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
In case anyone missed it, Arkansas destroyed Auburn this morning
another undefeated ranked team goes down hard to an unranked team. I love college football. And pro football. And I hear the lingerie league is really something.
I LOVE it when Auburn loses
for all their bitching when they went undefeated but didnt get a national title shot. They played NOBODY in non-conference and they ducked all of the conference heavyweights that year. (They played a non-con against a pre-Turner Gill Buffalo team late in the season.)
They are still griping about that season.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Snead just ran backward TOWARDS the rush
wow.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Anyone know why Oregon changed their uni's
They used to have the best jersey’s in football. Now they have the stupid looking feathers on the shoulder pads.
They're owned by Nike
In exchange for awesome training facilities, their players are forced to wear whatever the geniuses at Nike come up with.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Snead. Terrible.
I’ve questioned his accuracy for awhile now. Now, I question him as a prospect. I was close the past two weeks to this but: I’m officially off the Snead bandwagon.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
Nothing wrong with the Locker bandwagon
There’s plenty of room left
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Are they starting to drool over him now?
I haven’t started paying attention to their articles yet
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Just scored some club seats for tomorrow
Of course when you get them off eBay they seller’s kept the parking for themselves.
Is it true that Seattle has free city parking on game-day?
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions
Where do you live?
I ask this because you can just take the city bus or something.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
I live in Portland and have never been to Seattle.
And I believe with the club seats you can get in 3 hours early, around 10ish, so I can hit I-5 way early and not have to worry about dicking around Seattle for hours.
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Drive to Tukwila, take the light rail.
If you get there at 9:30-ish there will be parking and the station is two blocks from Qwest.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And your commute home will be easier because you won't have to deal with as much traffic in the city.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude. Sweet, thanks
Google-mapping now.
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The view of Seattle coming into town from the south on the light rail is amazing.
If you’ve never been, it’s a great introduction to the city.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
From ST's website:
Light rail service to Sea-Tac Airport is scheduled to start in late 2009, in time for the 2010 Olympics. Trains will run all day from a new SeaTac/Airport Station to Downtown Seattle.
But it’s Seattle we’re talkin’ about sooo…
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Which means it MIGHT be done by spring
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
In fairness, ST got that shit done with a quickness once the approval finally came through.
The fact that they are in charge of the ID—>Cap Hill street car makes me happy.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a solid point...
I’m just glad they’re creating a good light rail system around here cuz our public transportation has kinda sucked.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup.
The thought that within two years it will be possible to go to a game at Safeco or Qwest, hop on the streetcar and be home in five-ten minutes is so amazingly bizarre to me because I never thought I’d see it.
It’s like the urbanist transit nerd version of a Super Bowl.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like Seattle is finally getting it's shit together
Good ol Greg Nickels someone that’s actually competent. I hope it expands even more. Can’t wait for the University link to get finished.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You might be able to take the train, too
I don’t have any idea if the schedule works, but the train station is right outside Qwest and its a nice ride.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
If you're willing to walk and get there early, yes.
Street parking is free on Sundays.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Not based on today
This isn’t a game for good QB play.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Is Julio Jones even playing?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I have a co-worker that probably weighs 120 pounds (if that)
and he drinks 8 cups a day or so.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet I was able to quickly assess that the Ole Miss player injured the superior trunk of his brachial plexus,
correctly predicting that he’d come up supporting the weight of his arm because his shoulder wouldn’t.
I can’t find you rhino horn, but the Chinese herbal stores will tell you that tiger penis does the same thing.
If you don't have any rhino horn handy,
deer antler or tiger wang will work in a pinch.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I'd like them to draft 400 pound Terrence Cody
by aerozeppelin on Oct 10, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't that be beneficial to them?
Unless Cody sucks more than I thought.
How low do you think Locker will drop?
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
that would be smart -- get another year of coaching from Sark
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I really hope so
But if people are telling him that he’ll be a mid to late 1st round pick, it’d be hard for him to walk away from 15-20 mil for a year, especially with the risk of injury.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a risk, but in 2011 he could be first overal
So get another season of college and a chance to improve your draft stock or cash out now and know you might be in the middle of the pack at Qb.
way to go Snead
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Ole Miss gets it right back on the strip
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I'm not watching football until UW,
but isn’t Baylor horrible? Just looking at the stats, Bradford’s not having a great game, percentage wise anyways.
Not going to watch the EPIC matchup of Florida/LSU??
I want to see Tebow get leveled again….
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I might?
Is Jesus going to be stepping on the field?
I got my times confused. 7 pm pacific Washington
8 pm Eastern Florida.
Yes I believe that he has risen from the dead
At least the doctors have given him permission to play. He’s still a gametime decision, but I don’t think there’s any way he’ll miss the game.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm ok with a QB in general underperforming a bit.
Only problem is, if Bradford, Locker, or Clausen feel like they won’t go top 10, then they’ll just wait another year.
I'm not so sure
Any of those guys could fall off the map if they have a bad 2010. Better to go in the late first round in 2009 than the early 6th round in 2010.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
So Timmy can snatch him in the 3rd round?
Just like another SEC quarterback a few years back…
by aerozeppelin on Oct 10, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait, I thought you were referring to Tebow
by aerozeppelin on Oct 10, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't have a third round pick, and if Timmy (Ruskell) weren't so good with his 3rd round picks,
I’d love to take a gamble on Timmy (Jesus, pronounced Hay soos) in the 3rd round.
Someone needs to give me a job doing beer pairings at upscale restaurants.
I am amazed when I got to a nice restaurant and they best beer they have on tap is Red Hook.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ever had Xingu?
Brazilian beer… delicious.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What if you're eating at Red Hook Brewery in Woodinville?
It’d be pretty awkward if you went there and they said “you can have our shitty beer, but we have some much better beer from another brewery available as well.”
Though it would pretty funny to go there and say “Do you have anything besides Red Hook beer, that stuff tastes like crap?”
Tsingtao is about as good as most beers I had in Germany
but Harbin is better.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Nope.
“I prefer” does not mean “is better.”
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially in the objective field of beer tasting
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Beer tasting is objective, sure.
With that being said, in no universe is Tsigntao better than even the middle tier of German beers.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Tsingtao is a decent middle-brow lager
about on par with the middle tier of German beers. Neither are very impressive, but they get the job done.
I also don’t understand all the fuss about Belgian beers.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Yeah I don't think we're gonna agree.
Although it is my not-shared-by-many opinion that American craft beer is superior to Belgian craft beer.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I won't say that Belgian beer can't hold the jock of American microbrew
It can and it does and thats why it tastes the way it does.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
That's the implication, yes.
Tremendous stuff.
This is like saying that Jackass is a better movie than Citizen Kane because you liked Jackass better.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, of you like a movie better, it is better to that person...
Better doesn’t always mean better for the average person.
Budweiser is the best beer in the world (in my opinion), could mean best for me, or could mean I think it’s the best for everyone.
"Best" and "better" are absolutes.
There’s no such thing as “it is better to me” or “it is the best as far as I am concerned.” You can say “I prefer,” but when you are making value judgments you have to be prepared to back up your assertions with facts.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Water mixed with pee is better for me. Why's it better for me? Because that's what tastes best to me.
They are not absolutes.
Tom Brady is the best QB. Best QB in his given system under his given coach maybe, but perhaps Peyton Manning is better under a different system. There are always qualifications and restrictions to be made. Better and Best aren’t like distances of time.
When you make a critical assessment of something
you leave your assessment open to criticism.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
better is absolutely not better
There is no absolute measure of good for movies or taste.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Generally when people who know a lot about something tend to agree
it’s reasonable to assume that they are correct in their assessments. I know plenty of people that don’t like craft beer and greatly prefer PBR to anything fancy, but that doesn’t mean they would be correct to say that PBR is better beer than Angel’s Share.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You made your point on the matter, and I made mine.
Let’s leave it at that.
And on the Citizen Kane vs Jackass thing.
Most people would fall asleep to Citizen Kane. Not that it’s a bad movie but people don’t appreciate these type of movies.
Those people aren't qualified to make critical assessments of films.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrote a couple of arguments to this and the above statement you made,
but they all centered on politics and religion so I held on to backspace instead.
"Most people"
aren’t qualified to enjoy a movie. Did I get that right?
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
This is like saying that fine dining is always better than street food
Nothing more than snobbery.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
It is absolutely not the same thing.
It’s like saying that a 3-Michelin Star restaurant serves better food than Taco Bell. That’s entirely different.
Or like comparing Tsingtao with Hofbrau
which is where we started.
The idea that art criticism is the only measure by which to evaluate a mass-market medium like film is simply close-minded. I’m not going to defend Jackas s or defame CK, but I’m not going to accept that their is an objective standard for their criticism.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
It is not the only measure but it is the measure you should use when using terms like "best" and "worst."
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think terms like "best" and "worst"
have to place in these discussions. There are so many dimensions along which these things can be compared that “best” and “worst” are, at best, oversimplifications.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
All I am saying is this;
if I say “of all the sour ales I’ve had, Allagash Confluence is my favorite” then I am merely stating a preference.
If I say, as I did above, “Allagash Confluence is the best sour ale I’ve ever had” then I am opening my statement to harsher criticism.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure
but I don’t think you could make an objective statement about the quality of the beers that necessarily held more weight than personal preference.
While educated criticism isn’t worthless, it is far from objective.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
If you tell me that you would rather have a Tsingtao than a Hofbrau Hefeweizen,
I will not argue with that. That’s your choice. If you tell me that Tsingtao is better then you have to face criticism.
Neither are worth ranking
This what I said that got the whole ball rolling:
Tsingtao is about as good as most beers I had in Germany
but Harbin is better.
The comment about Harbin is in relation to Tsingtao.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Eh, no.
Enjoyment versus critical assessment. Just like plenty of people enjoyed watching Reggie Bush, but how many were qualified to know how he would play in the NFL?
Whats the measure of success for art or pop art or media or food?
How many delicacies in one culture are found objectively repulsive in another?
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Most food critics worth taking seriously aren't repulsed by food that is not of their culture.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually replace "most food critics" with "any food critic"
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Who's talking about food critics?
And food style is as mutable as fashion. Food that was considered objectively good in 1990 is considered out of date or old-fashioned now. Other styles of food or cooking that are even older are coming back into style.
There is no sense assigning objective value to these things if they their worth is so subject to change.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
"Food that was considered objectively good in 1990 is considered out of date or old-fashioned now. "
By some people, but not people I would care to listen to.
Honestly though a discussion about food criticism is about as low as possible on the list of things I am interested in pursuing at the moment so whatever.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That's where we started
talking about beers.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Actually I was pointing out that his statement was absurd.
But I would go so far as to say that most people aren’t qualified to make serious critical assessments of films, yes. That doesn’t mean that they aren’t entitled to an opinion and that their opinion isn’t valid. It means that if you think that Citizen Kane is a better movie than Jackass, I have no obligation to ever listen to anything you have to say about a movie.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, most people?
Really? It is the #1 film of all time according to the AFI and it rents more than almost any other catalog film at my store.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
How many people rent movies at independent stores any more?
Netflix and Blockbuster are probably more representative.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I don't know
I’m not commenting on their business model or the quality of the films they rent (neither of which may be all that great).
They’re still operating and renting more movies than the little mom-and-pop operations that rent the harder-to-find stuff. The comment was about quantity and not about quality.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
No they aren't.
They are going out of business. Strong indies with large catalogs are not.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I love strong indies with large catalogs
I’m not fortunate enough to live in a neighborhood that has one (and I haven’t in a dozen years).
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I grew up in Bellingham
There’s a pretty good place called “Film is Truth 24 Times a Second”.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
You are completely and totally missing my point
and more than you would think.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Two 13 year old girls told me they wanted to try to get into classic movies.
These are two girls that generally rent nothing but Gossip Girl and Scary Movie. They asked me what my favorite old movie was and I told them. They loved it.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you have to establish a criteria for judgement
or else this argument will go round and round.
The whole process of selecting criteria is subjective
even if the judgement based on that criteria may not be.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
If two sides do not agree on or at least discuss the criteria
arguments tend towards a rhetorical back and forth without much weight or chance of resolution.
Music, filmmaking, writing, cooking, brewing, coffee roasting, etc are all to some extent art.
There is subjective preference and their is objective critical opinion.
I would rather watch Terminator 2 than Grand Hotel, but Grand Hotel is the artistically better film. I would rather listen to the Melvins than the Kinks (generally) but Village Green Preservation Society is an artistically better album than Houdini. And so forth.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I am having a love affair with VGPS right now
I think then the criteria would be artistic merit, and I think that is the hold up in this conversation. You are arguing artistic merit is objective. The counter argument is that taste is subjective. The two sides are not arguing the same subject.
And I've actually listened to the Kinks a lot more than the Melvins recently too.
I don’t know why I picked that particular comparison.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
All these have qualifiers or restrictions.
You can’t say that CK is the best film of all time, well technically you can say it, but you can’t say it is absolutely the best film of all time no doubts about it.
The entire film is artistically better.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
It is a better film. I would generally rather watch Terminator 2.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
In a sense.
Terminator 2 is a classic as well in its own right, though.
Grand Hotel is one of the greatest movies ever made because of its photography, direction, performances, innovation and influential nature.
Commercially the point of movies if entertainment. As an artistic pursuit, the goals are different.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like Bicycle Thief
I didn’t find the story compelling, but a studied viewing shows you masterful, creative and influential work. I had a conversation with my friend that is an aspiring film critic and he loved it. We didn’t agree about enjoyment, but we both agreed it captured a time and place unlike almost any movie ever made.
This makes me take somethings into account
Insightful comment
I was in the Southwest, mostly
They’re not known for their beer (more wine and schnapps). But I also traveled a little around the rest of the country and there was only one time I had a beer that I thought was really amazing (in the Darmstadt trainstation). American microbrew kicked the ass of every other beer I had.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
They're really good
but there’s a lot of other great beer brewed on the West coast and their Portland brewpub is pretty shabby.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Haven't made it down to their pub
But I will agree that there is a ton of great microbreweries in the NW
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I adore their brewpub.
It’s the only thing in the Pearl I don’t hate.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Rogue's got crappy, poorly prepared food
I like Deschutes more. The food is awesome and they usually have Obsidian on nitrogen, which surely is on par with anything at Rogue.
I understand the appeal of the divey bar, but I don’t understand paying Pearl prices for crappy food and a dive bar atmosphere.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I just don't eat the food.
And I don’t find it divey, but I definitely prefer the less polished atmosphere than the sheen of places like Deschutes. Same reason I like Uber and Stumbling Monk better than Brouwers in Seattle.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I could see that
I’ve got different criteria for my value judgement (fat guy likes some food with his beer).
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
If I'm in Portland chances are good I'm not eating anywhere but food carts.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Then you're missing a lot of good food
Food carts are great but they are not the only or the best places to get food. And variety is good too.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Seattle's street food scene is improving but still laughable compared to Portland.
I know I’m missing out, but the lure of the mobile grease dispensary is too great to pass up.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to college in a small town in Eastern Washington
It was easier to find a taco truck there than in Phoenix.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Phoenix is a midwestern suburban town planted in the desert
I’m sure the taco trucks are fine, they’re just hard to find.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I went to a pretty cool sandwich place for lunch today
They have a drink on their menu based loosely on the Mimosa: Miller and OJ.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Its the freakin champagne of beers!
It just makes sense, you know. Also, there’s the ironic lowbrow Portland hipster element to take into account.
The canned micheladas aren’t too bad, either.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I didn't have the miller drink
I had a Stumptown coffee.
But the micheladas are just like Mexican bloody Marys with the vodka swapped out for beer. How could that fail to be an improvement?
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I've heard great things about them
but I think I might have to rough of a palate to appreciate their lightly-roasted brew. I like coffee to taste more like a stout than a pale ale.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I think I should
they probably don’t overroast their darker stuff like other people do.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Sure
I usually only make coffee on the weekends, when I’ve got time. The rest of the week I get the drive-through ’bucks or the office sludge.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I spent three days in Portland this summer and didn't find anywhere thats served Stumptown until I was on the way to the freeway.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a shame
Stumptown has been my Stone. I may one day find others that compare or surpass it, but it was the brand that made me a real coffee drinker. Easily the most complex coffee I’ve ever had.
I love their coffee and I can get it all over the place up here
but it was quite odd. I really miss Batdorf and Bronson coffee. It was always my favorite by far in Olympia and even though it might not be as good as I remember it being, it remains my favorite because I’ve never had coffee that made the impression on me that B & B did.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hope their basketball team chokes this year
by aerozeppelin on Oct 10, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
#1 high school center is down to either UW or UCLA
Joshua Smith
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah seriously. Plus we need all the height we can get.
Plus he’s from Kentwood… I’m liking our chances.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What's Smith's FT percentage?
That was embarrassing to see constant failure at the line.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Not sure.
Here’s his RIval page
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Josh-Smith-64551
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
This CBS announcer explodes with every first down made
You are not Gus Johnson, Craig Bolerjack.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
This is one crappy football game
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Making the move to Duke/NC state
Duke is up 42-28 in the 4th
(after a 14-0 run including a technical foul on the Wolfpack coach)
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
An ugly loss for the SEC today
Vandy falls to Army 16-13
Mississippi State lost to Houston, but that’s not an upset.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I guess I'll finish my Willis post tomorrow then
Short take: He was good. Frye was bad. Inexplicably, the team decided to chip Willis’ guy in the fourth quarter. The first time they did they, Mathis stripped Wallace in Seattle’s red zone. He was facing Frye.
'A Serious Man' Review before I leave
If you like the Coens humor, the darker elements and the comedy of manners style they sometimes use, it’s a very funny movie that is worth some rippin laughs. I do not think it holds the emotional resonance of some of their best work. Like many Coen films, it is the middle part of a story with lots of ideas but little resolution. Like all Coen films, the dialogue, casting and attention to detail is masterful. It’s a fun, dense movie, but a slight disappointment.
I'm beginning to think that No Country For Old Men and the Big Lebowski have ruined every movie they do from here on out.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked it, but it wasn't my favorite
I also didn’t understand why McCarthy’s The Road wasn’t considered a work of genre fiction.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Got a chance to read over the plot.
Sound really interesting. Might give it a read.
Don't have to
They’re turning it into a movie
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Probably
But Mad Max with shopping carts could be a fun movie to watch.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
It's pretty great.
Although I preferred There Will Be Blood.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get Big Lebowski
to me it’s a minor movie, if fun. I think No Country for Old Men proved Joel and Ethan could use help with their storylines. It is free of the, and this is brash but who cares what I think, pothead asides and undisciplined story telling that sometimes makes their movies ponderous if otherwise admirable.
I would consider Lebowski to be one of the finest American comedies ever made.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I like my comedies disastrous and messy.
Hudsucker Proxy is another favorite and even I have no idea what the hell is happening half the time.
I think it’s all the Marx Bros.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok
Thank God Tebow, I thought I’d be forced to listen to Musberger.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a slant route?
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This is completely reckless of me
but some part of me thinks Tebow will find a way to make in the NFL. You know the league would love that. He needs a type of offense, something like the Knapp-Seneca offense.
It may be foolish to completely write off the potential most successful college player of all time, but I don't see it.
I see him as a more successful Eric Crouch. He plays in the perfect system and Urban Meyer has assembled the most impressive set of skill position talent in all of college football.
He is, and he isn't. He's a great athlete, but he doesn't have a great fit as a position outside of maybe TE.
He’s certainly not straight-line fast, and he isn’t brutally quick. He is powerful and has good vision. Maybe he’s a TE?
I would run a two quarterback offense, play Tebow at fullback
and keep a Shaun Hill type under center.
I guess if you are willing to work around the usual NFL construct, sure.
Why not Pat White, at that point?
I think Tebow could withstand
100 rushes up the gut and still be a good gadget quarterback, I don’t think White could.
Feel free to correct me on this, as you watch oodles of film.
To me, the yardage that Tebow gains up the middle in the college game is a product of his size, determination, and superior athleticism. Put him in the NFL and he’s ~ late-career Jamal Lewis, which is not all that desirable.
The pass-run possibility is a huge advantage though.
Tebow is like Vick if Vick wasn’t a quarterback that could run like Reggie Bush, but a quarterback that could run like Jerome Bettis.
I don't see the added value of a cloud of dust as enough to offset his deficits as a passer.
Vick was dangerous because he was a freakishly superior athlete capable of burning everyone on the field for 50 yards at a time. You have to spy him. If you drop into coverage on Tebow, is he good enough to turn the corner and make you think twice?
No, probably not
It’s more like Tebow out-gaps defenses the way a Wildcat does. Now, this is conditional on Tebow being a much better student and decision maker than Vick, which I think is true, but I don’t know yet. An OC working with Tebow would not build around his big play threat, but that he is a genuine running back that can churn out short yardage and consistently get positive yardage, but also throw underneath passes. That taxes the linebackers.
Ok, that's a bunch of jargon
Consider the shotgun with split backs that Florida runs. The team can run three separate directions and that is very hard to read pre-snap. It’s not a one time run, Tebow could run ten times a game and you want to commit linebackers to the middle. But sweeps and draws attack the outside. Or Tebow can PA and throw a screen pass. Or the defense can run max protect and throw a bomb. Just tons of versatility.
If a team is willing to bet the farm on an unconventional offense, absolutely.
My argument has been based on the notion that Tebow would be used in a mostly standard offense. Throw that out and he looks an awful lot better.
I see what you're saying, and it will be interesting to see what happens.
I won’t count Tebow out because he is clearly driven to levels not normally seen in college athletes.
Brock Lesnar is a physical freak
Who couldn’t get a whiff at an NFL active roster.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
You need more than athleticism to make it in the NFL
Nobody who doubts Tebow doubts his athleticism.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Eh, admittedly, I don't follow UFC well
but I don’t think I’ve ever seen great athleticism in UFC. It’s still very raw. Maybe in a few years we’ll see some real prospects when the kids get involved.
Some fighters are athletic, some have got beer guts
The knockout punch is a great equalizer, but the wrestling requires great stamina.
Lesnar is a special type of freak. He’s a heavyweight that has to cut down to 265 lbs and still has pretty good quickness. I can’t believe its all natural (especially coming from professional wrestling), but he’s just bigger, stronger and faster than anybody he faces.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Yeah
yet for some reason I respect the athleticism of fat football players more than the athleticism of fat baseball players or fit Nascar drivers.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Including me, holy crpa
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It's two different things right now though
Football players are true prodigies and most NFL talent has excelled at every level since a developmental phase—10,11-15,16, etc. Most fighters are from others sports and are probably five, ten years into their discipline.
Sure, its not there yet
A lot of the successful fighters, though, started as wrestlers. They spend most of their lives learning wrestling and conditioning and then switch to MMA.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Then get punched in the face
and lose. I’m fairly certain Mike Tyson could, right now with time to get in shape, beat most UFC fighters.
Mayweather said something like that,
along the lines of any boxer could come in after an adjustment period to the MMA rules, would kick anyone’s ass
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen so many fights end
when one guy kicks and the other dude just lands one on the guy’s jaw. Humans are not that tough. A good bareknuckled punch is enough topple ya.
There are no bareknuckled punches in MMA
and it takes a lot of luck/skill/power to get a knockout on the first punch of the match.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Hyperbole, the bareknuckled.
This is not a boxing glove.
You should watch vintage Tyson. He was a human punching machine. His hook was death. He punched through blocks and clipped guy’s jaws. MMA guys don’t know how to dodge a punch, they will if, like I said the real talent gets there, but this generation is not impressive to me.
Real MMA isn't all highlight-reel knockouts
A lot of it is wresting and jiujitsu that doesn’t look all that dramatic. But pure wrestlers succeed a lot more than pure boxers.
Pure boxers usually have a chance at punch or two before they get taken down. Pure wrestlers take a little while to get the win, but they usually get takedowns and get into dominant positions more often than boxers.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I'll tell you what
I watched UFC 1,2,3,4,5—the last two I think. But then I dropped out for a while, so if that’s the complexion* of the new UFC, excuse my ignorance, but it wasn’t the occasional punch out. I remember Joyce Grace versus Ken Shamrock, and Grace was clearly winning, but the UFC wanted action so if Shamrock could battle to a stalemate they’d separate them. Eventually Shamrock won punching despite being clearly the inferior grappler.
The game's changed a bunch
since Shamrock and Gracie. That was about 10-15 years ago, the rules have changed a bit (more codified), the ownership changed and the fanbase/participants changed. Just for reference, the last UFC they held was 103 or 104.
There are very few pure strikers that have any success. The ones that do know wrestling well enough that they can defend the takedown really well or (like Lyoto Machida) have a ridiculously long reach and crazy ninja evasion skills.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
whoah what the hell SBN swallowed my paragraph body
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not
In the UFC, great boxers who can’t stuff the takedown have one, maybe two, shots at a knockout before they get taken down.
Guys like Kimbo Slice and Tank Abbott were guys with a great punch who turned into punchlines.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
I don't know much,
but I thought I heard guys who are used to punching and kicking do ok until the other guy gets close and uses wrestling moves. Then they’re in unfamiliar territory and kind of screwed as to how to position themselves. Wrestling moves are pretty complicated.
Because they are overhyped bar fighters.
It tells you something about MMA that’s Kimbo and Tank ever had a shot. Tyson would kill them in four seconds. Kill.
Kimbo was a fad
Tank is garbage but that was the early UFC days when anyone could enter with no skill or shape whatsoever.
But Tyson kills them in 1.5 seconds.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Peak Tyson, definitely
But he looked pretty bad in his last couple of fights.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
That's obvious.
He was bad against Danny Williams, Kevin McBride, etc.
Clearly a money thing.
Peak Tyson could kill anybody.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
He could've killed him
But he got careless. It’s an upset for a reason.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Peak Tyson would murder
Any of these slow-polk HWs. He had amazing punching power and quickness that the division pretty much has never had since.
Guys like Chris Arreola shouldn’t touch a heavyweight title fight but there is little serious competition for them.
Tyson would also get the Klitschko brothers to not jab and cross their way to victory. He’d chase them like a ninja.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
When he fought Holyfield or Lennox Lewis, was he past his peak?
It sure seems quick that we was big time boxer, then he just fell off the world.
I'm not a big enough fan to get into that argument
I wish Fedor fought in the UFC, but its not gonna happen.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
That he's the GOAT
In the heavyweight division.
By beating Lesnar by KTFO.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Can't wait till this fad passes.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Next year's notable Ex-Seahawks:
Walter Jones, Patrick Kerney, Seneca Wallace
by Wayward Llama on Oct 11, 2009 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Muscles grow back. Skin grows back. Bone repairs itself well. You only get one brain.
If I were Tim Tebow, I’d be on the sideline tonight. Stacking concussions is dangerous.
How much is a ticket on the light rail?
Can’t believe I didn’t ask this earlier.
by Anticitizen_One on Oct 10, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
It sounds like the guy was trying to break up a fight between a Packers fan and a Vikings fan
A commenter said that the guy was a regular Seahawks poster:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/6699/no-laughing-matter-seahawks-fan-stabbed
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
When Favre dies on the field throwing the game losing interception in Super Bowl XLIV
will his soul join the others in the bosom of Tebow?
Mexico just qualified for the World Cup of Soccer
All thanks to Tim Tebow.
Flag?! YOU DO NOT FLAG TIM TEBOW!
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Even gods like Tebow have to toy with the crowd
Before delivering his moment of fantasticacity.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
This should be a good test of Tebow vs. system.
If Meyer is smart, and it looks like he is, he won’t be subjecting Tebow to more hits by letting him run.
I fully acknowledge that my current situation has gutted my ability to drink,
but half of an 8.5% Dragon’s Milk and I’m feeling it. Absurd.
I like it, but remember that I'm more of a malty person than a hoppy person.
It’s complex in more than one way and the finish tickles me just right.
I have finally managed to come into possession of Southern Tier Creme Brulee stout.
I am terrified of how sweet it is going to be but much too curious not to try it.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Drake is a pretty cool name.
I’d have a hard time calling my kid (as a toddler) Drake though. It sounds too badass.
Good old scare tactics
nothing works like scare tactics for marketing. That’s why I bought Gerber life insurance for my unborn children. Wouldn’t want to go through all that diaper changing bullshit and not at least get some skrill out of it.
I don't know if it's just because I have something to keep me interested, but
Pac 10 football is more interesting than SEC football. Maybe it’s all that defense, and not enough passing.
I love Pac-10 football.
I can watch every game of every team and not get tired (well, except for WSU, good god…) and I don’t really like college football as much as I once did.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching Florida play
sometimes it feels like that dude in the arcade that would play Mortal Kombat for hours and knew every cheap trick and couldn’t be beat, but wasn’t actually very good at the game.
It's my cripplingly associative thinking
and complete lack of shame. I’m full of terrible analogies.
Any guesses as to where Tebow ends up next year?
I haven’t seen him much and as such don’t really have an opinion.
Is he actually going to be an NFL QB?
Now THAT'S gonna be a QB controversy.
Didn’t they just re-sign Gerrad for big bucks?
Jacksonville's problem is more selling tickets than actually winning games.
Tebow would be a huge help for the former.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do you think we traded for Denver's first round pick?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Toby Gerhart.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
I don't think the NFL is ready for another white feature back.
I remember Brock Forsey going over 100 yards and then disappearing from the face of the planet.
Jake Locker, then.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Two words:
Brian Leonard.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
LOL LOOK QUICK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_favre
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I haven't watched SportsCenter in probably 2 years, yet I'm still somehow inundated with this crap.
Maybe it’s imagined.
Sportscenter is a childhood thing for me
It was right on my level then, but I haven’t watched in..something like ten years. Shit.
If I wanted a likely drunk man with a lazy eye to scream at me about the Cubs,
I’d get on the L at 2am.
The problem is that you can't be sure that stabby isn't also a possibility.
I have had some all-time great conversations with crazy people on the train while headed downtown at night with friends.
That is true
especially Chicago Bum. Portland Bum is former Rainbow Coalition. Sorta perma-baked and agreeable—stabby but reluctant and tired.
by John Morgan on Oct 10, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
When Favre came out of retirement the first time,
I realized that I subconsciously only liked Favre and not the Packers. I was rooting for him to go the Vikings then and am reaping the rewards now, MNF was awesome.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn it, got distracted reading Favre's wiki article.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Wu-Tang reference that at first went over my head?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon James is awesome. He's like Reggie Bush without the carries, and therefore without the hype.
He gives that impression, doesn't he? I love that Florida doesn't care about positional designations
and tosses their best athletes and football players out there every play. Demps in the backfield? James out running routes.
No kidding.
Veteran move. Not sure how the ref’s miss that.
That didn't tell me anything about Tebow.
I know he can make that throw (anyone with a decent arm can) I want to see him hit a slant or make a read, or have to place it perfectly.
What don't we need?
I want to draft Desmond Trufant right now.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd go along w/ that.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
More than fine.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
And to his credit, FF has been a model citizen since his release from prison.
Isn’t it amazing what doors open for you when you aren’t going out of your way to be a burr under the saddle?
I disagree with the notion that you can build championship defenses based on 3 strong linebackers.
I’d love to be wrong.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
Honestly I’d rather have LBs be a question mark if that meant other units were set for the next several seasons.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
(Not that I don't love Tats)
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If our defensive line and or/secondary was great, I would too.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Right. I strongly believe that a dominant defensive line absolves a lot of other sins on defense.
Tennessee last year is a great example of that.
John Lynch
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all about who you know.
The only Toby I know is Asian, so I associate Toby as an Asian name. Or a wimpy HR guy.
...Upon heavy thought, I think you're right.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
LeCharles
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
...How did I forget about JaMarcus?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
D'oh
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooh! Ooh!
Ben-Jarvus Green-Ellis!!!
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Shmuley Boteach
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian Leonard.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
So my cousin took a trip to England and informed me with mild surprise that they speak American there.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
I've had a personal grudge ever since I got rejected from there.
Those bastards and their stupid mascot
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
We still have the Washington Redskins in one of the top 3 largest markets in the NFL
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
They should have never changed the Washington Bullets.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
I didn't even bother applying.
And I don’t think I’ll bother applying to their law school either. Probably not their business school either if I ever decide to do that.
The UW game starts at 7:15?
That seems pretty late. I’m not sure if I even remember a college game starting later than 5:00.
Anybody ever have any issues with getting old beers from Bottleworks in Wallingford?
Me and my roomate picked up a Chimay and a Trading Post today and they’re bad to awful.
Old shouldn't be any sort of an issue with beers like that.
I’ve never gotten anything “off” from Bottleworks.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh only a minute left in the game
Let the bushy Beavers get their glory
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone have a stream to the Huskies game?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
Yes.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't have FSN!
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Try
then search for the game… idk how good it is i’m watching it on tv
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, this one is it:
http://www.rajangan.net/template_live.php?ida=120
But it isnt loading FFFFFF
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah shit sorry
just try googling Washington Huskies live stream (or broadcast)
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason every single 'stream' is a link to a blog that is nothing but text
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I went south to Vancouver WA to get some paperwork for Cash for Clunkers
Never leaving King County again
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Why isn't ESPN 360 streaming the game?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
The odds of facing a more neutered Florida offense at that point is slim.
They need to capitalize now.
That's how you slide!
I was looking up Locker’s stats, I knew he was a great rusher, didn’t realize he had 984 or so rushing yards his freshman year. I figured 750 or something.
Yeah Sark is trying to develop him into more of a 'pro style' pocket passer this season
but the boy can HAUL! One of the fastest guys on the team
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
IPA's are my favorite
Pilsners are a close second
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I love em
but too many hops leads to a wicked hangover for me, so I have to take it easy.
""I wanted to be a quarterback, but I got hungry."
-LG Rob Sims
Haven't had that one
I think i’ve tried a few of their seasonals though. Pretty impressed. I’ll have to try and find the Prima. I’ve heard they have a 12% that I’m drooling to try sometime.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a Belgian-style amber and it's decent, but there are definitely better Victory beers.
Prima is my most favorite of all pilsners.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it easy to find Victory beers?
Aren’t they a East Coast brewery?
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha
I’ll have to start my search then. Thanks.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They are an east coast brewery, but I've never had trouble finding their stuff.
To get some of their seasonals you might need to hit up Pike Beer and Wine or Bottleworks, but generally you can find their regular line at decent grocery stores.
Decent for Seattle, at least. I have no idea outside of the city.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
All this talk about beer made me pop open one of the four I have in my fridge
that have been there since April
And just as I thought, it still tastes like beer… Don’t think I’ll be finishing this one.
Moose Drool is ass in general.
Which is funny because their IPA is great.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Moose Drool
gets two thumbs down in my book
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Very few beers are going to actually be sugary.
Those are just the malts used and the flavor profile.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Most milk and chocolate stouts are lactose sweet.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
I’ve never had a milk stout, but the chocolates I’ve had are dark chocolate sweet. Sweet-bitter.
Even Young's?
I don’t generally like milk stouts, but there are exceptions. Everything malty that Southern Tier makes is sweet and my is it good. They changed the way I felt about sweet beer.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear cable networks
I can guarantee you that millions of people would pay a nominal fee to watch your network. You would skip the obsolete middle man. Please let me buy FSN and stream it over the internet.
I echo your sentiments
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I'm paying $110 for cable and internet every month.
The only channels I watch are NBC, ESPN, and FSN. And Fox.
That seems like a lot...
who’s your provider?
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
60 for Comast internet, for me
Every once in a while I call them, telling them I intend to cancel, then they make it around 30 bucks for the next 6 months or so
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I had some type of introductory rate, and then it jumped up a lot after 6 months,
so I called and they gave me some weird explanation, but I didn’t feel like complaining over $20 a month.
Yeah once he got past the line
he just blew everyone else away. God i love 4.4 speed on a QB. Sexy.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah
fuck that. I’m not supporting an outmoded system. I’m a capitalist! The market wants motherfucking choice!
Fuck I wish I saw that
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We're sloppy and the refs are Pac-10 refs
Need I say more?
Tim Tebow really sucks.
I will be very confused if he’s drafted on the first day.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
I'll take your word for it.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not since the beginning of the 4th Q
But just watching him, I can’t see why anyone would attempt to make him a QB if he keeps lobbing wobbles like that
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
O rly
How well does it look if you take away them rushin’ TDs? eh? eh?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh well that's an immediate gold star then.
Might as well just give him the Heisman now too.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
God some of you are jealous. lol
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Next year's notable Ex-Seahawks:
Walter Jones, Patrick Kerney, Seneca Wallace
by Wayward Llama on Oct 11, 2009 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions
He's solid
and still only a freshman I believe.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, true freshman.
Not even a top recruit in Washington I think. High up, but not top 5, but he’s playing like a pac 10 first teamer.
Wow, Richardson gets stiff armed, then somehow manges to get the tackle
with just fingers on a shoulder pad.
I wish FSN was streamed.
^#%&
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
Score of Huskies game anyone?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
Thanks
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
\O_O/
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
No shit
It’s mainly Aguliar (or however you spell it) and Goodwin
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Locker with a 20 yard Bullet.
I seriously don’t think Locker has a weakness. His biggest problem is he’s so fast that if I were him, I’d take off all the time, impeding my learning to be a pocket passer.
Needs to work on looking off corners and his touch on the deep ball
Otherwise extremely solid
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, he for sure has some weaknesses to work on,
but I meant from an ability and talent perspective, I don’t see what he can’t do. His progression this year is so damn remarkable.
I agree.
If he stays for his senior year under Sark he’ll be a top contender for the Heisman, and a top 5 pick in the draft.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the real deal.
And the Huskies have a top 25 recruiting class for next year so he’ll have some solid talent around him for the first time in his career
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
If it was recovered by anyone it was recovered in the end zone
And it sure as hell didn’t look like it was recovered by arizona.
Are blind
How can that not be reviewed?
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It was questionable,
it was important, it was in the last 2 minutes of a half, I don’t see why the wouldn’t.
Meh
Would be worse to find out you have ball cancer and they have to cut off your willy, but I agree that it would suck.
Huskies appear to be out-talented at most positions are staying competitive with smoke and mirrors. Fair assessment?
This is like when my parents would compare my hunger to that of an Ethiopian
suprisingly ineffective at making me less hungry.
by John Morgan on Oct 10, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Happened to me :(
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Football and judo.
And chess club, but that a story for another open thread.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If we were in a Madden game,
my ‘body control’ as you call it would be as low of a ranking as you’d see.
I have speed, acceleration, and endurance. That’s about it.
I bought cleats especially for this, so I’ll try cutting left and right in them tomorrow on grass to break them in.
Don't Burleson on us O_O
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't catch a deep ball very well. Or at least not one over my head.
More of a 5 yard slant catcher.
Flashback, Buffalo, season opener, last season, despair and pain
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Chess?
This is where its at, or at least it was several years ago when I never worried about schoolwork
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I play there
but I am unorthodox and not too worried about winning. I just like to see how people play.
Honestly that's how I got acquainted
and I won some children’s tournament thing when I was like 10 in Seattle and won a 25$ gift certificate to Fredy Meyers!
…Man, I should get back into playing
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Chess is a great game
No one I know really plays that much, and aren’t really a challenge to keep me sharp at all :/
Used to play a lot when i was younger though
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I could be a lineman but I'd get tossed aside
Or anything that involves light jogging
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to play left guard sometimes
Predictably I was a match-up bonanza for other teams. I kicked ass on sweeps though
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh.
Around that time about 5’10"on a good day. The problem was that despite the fact I was always in the weightroom, my genetics betrayed me and I had a really top-heavy build and for the life of me not get any leverage. Or maybe it was my complete absence of killer instinct. I loved playing though.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
!!!
Yes!
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Magus is ridiculous
I forget what exactly he could do but he shot out big black voodoo crap and killed everything
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So I take it you liked it?
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!!!
FFIII top 5 game of all time. Chrono Trigger 6th maybe.
Other top 5s.
Colonization.
Orion.
Star Wars KOTOR.
FF VII.
Maybe it's because I played FFVII the first time a couple years ago,
but I thought it wasn’t that great. I mean, it was decent enough, but not an all time best sort of thing.
Metal Gear Solid 4 was worth every penny I shelled for a PS3
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought VIIs graphics were so much better than other game's at the time.
Looking back, the graphics are horrible, but FFVIII was such a disappointment. I actually like Kingdom Hearts a lot. Not Kingdom Hearts 2 for some reason though. Too much of the same (which you’d think would be good).
If you played FFVII for the first time
when it released, you would be more impressed. I liked MSG4’s gameplay, but I hate the Japaney/Asian humor in the game.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Next year's notable Ex-Seahawks:
Walter Jones, Patrick Kerney, Seneca Wallace
by Wayward Llama on Oct 11, 2009 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Only real familiar with FF3
I got off at the..eh, about 16 bit, but somewhere between 16 and 64, I guess. The Super Nintendo was the system for RPGs.
I thought it was good for the first playthrough
Never touched it again
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, that's a fair point.
In fact, the only games I can consistently replay and still enjoy just as much as the first playthrough are CT and MGS4
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Call of Duty is great to replay. Just love the graphics
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Which one?
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I usually don't. But in HS when I got a simulator on the computer
I replayed most FFIII and Chrono Trigger. Probably beat them 10x each after I discovered the fast forward button. Would’ve done Mario RPG but there was a glitch in the copy I had so it froze.
The fast forward thing in emulation is the best game-related advance ever
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The only game I've really played again and again
Is RE4. Man, I’ve probably beaten that like a dozen times. Fun times.
by aerozeppelin on Oct 10, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, RE4!
Especially on the Wii, controls are badass, a great contrast from the shovelware they mass-produce nowadays
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Same with me on CT.
Being considerably younger then, time-travel blew my mind.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Listened to the soundtrack on YouTube,
but heard the game is just too disappointing if you really enjoyed Chrono Trigger as a whole
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
My biggest gripe with FF3 is that I don't understand the plot.
At all. But Iike the gameplay. Also Sabin’s moves were annoying to do.
I thought the story was ok
but some of the characters didn’t get enough face time.
What made VI (III US) such a great game was its turn on a dime combat system and mostly non-linear 2nd half. Battles were really fun in that game.
So was the GBA in more modern times.
In fact, I’d propose that it had more quality RPGs than the SNES. None quite as timeless as something on the SNES, but very, very good nontheless. The dozens of modern Mega Man things, Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, Golden Sun, dozens of others
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot about the Mega Man games
I think i played just about every one of em. All excellent.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Super Nintendo was rich with great RPGs.
Lufia II, Dragon Quest, Breath of Fire, Everything Square Made.
Super Mario RPG!!!
I played through this like 10 times.
Super NES will never be matched
I’ve been playing games since the 80’s and still do, and I think the golden age for video games was between 1989 and 1996.
SNES was great for RPGs, great for action games, good for sports, and even had some good arcade adaptations (Street Fighter 2, MK, Bubble Bobble). Hey remember arcades back when arcades were cool?
SNES had 3 no-doubter all time great RPGs. FFIV (II US), Chrono Trigger, and FFVI (III US). I would put all three in my top 5 all time without hesitation. Breath of Fire II was a game that nobody knew about but kicked extreme amounts of ass, a very good game in an otherwise mediocre series. Lufia II was solid and will probably go down as having the best boss battle theme of all time. SMRPG seemed ridiculous when first released but was a good, even challenging game. Dragon Quest VI (only in japan or internet emulator) was very good, but not as good as III or IV for NES.
Its a shame John that you never went past 16 bit, because the Playstation had a very good RPG crop as well. FFVII is deservingly the called one of the best of all time, and FFIX is very under-rated, its right up there with the best in the series. FFVIII (and take it from me, I’ve beaten it 5 times), is a really weird game and you will probably hate it. Its probably the worst game in the series.
Another game you should definitely check out is Suikoden and Suikoden II. II in particular is very good, probably the best non-squaresoft J-RPG I’ve played. Very fun and fast combat with an excellent story.
By the way, if you ever want to play those games again just good emulators. I use PSX for playstation games and I think SNES9x for SNES. You might not expect it, but some games are better on emulator, and its certainly worth it for great games you missed or that didn’t come to america (like some of the DQ series).
Ninkasi Oatis is good, but Samuel Smith is about 1,000 times better than any other I've had so I usually stick with that.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man I don't know how I forgot Anderson Valley Barney Flats.
I like it almost as much as Samuel Smith but it’s a different take on the style. Lost Coast 8-Ball is good too.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 10, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
USA is beating Honduras 3-2
a win here gets them in the World Cup
not that anyone here cares about soccer….
Really?
World cup 2002 is what got me. It was Korea/Japan, and I was living in China that summer, and everyone there was crazy with soccer fever. I like how the national games mean so much more (comparing it to basketball). I can’t get into the Sounders for whatever reason though.
Zidane's Headbutt got me into it.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
If you go to a Sounders game
you’ll get hooked.
I played soccer for 11 years so i’m sure that helps my appreciation.
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I played for fun
but I think what me appreciate was my school chum Hayden Barbosa. What that dude could do with a ball was righteous.
Good man
Same here… well minus the gymnastics. Only at Olympics time will I watch it.
Who’s pumped for Vancouver next year!?
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
High-schools everywhere I think
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh you meant pro
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess so.
I’m a bit surprised that guys posting on a football board would admit to their demented interest in soccer. Sort of like wearing pink to the Village People reunion tour.
And the USA clinches a spot!!
South Africa here we come!!
by wyte_lightning on Oct 10, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
"Tim Tebow looked nothing short of superhuman. But he needed the Gators' D to stop LSU."
…Seriously, what the fuck BSPN?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
I'm happy for him and glad he's playing again,
but he was unremarkable for most of the game.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 10, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Being a virgin at that college is superhuman, isn't it?
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead
Who said they hate him?
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Add: Sam Bradford. Subtract: Jevan Snead