Seattle Signs Damion McIntosh, Puts Brandon Frye on IR
by John Morgan on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM PDT
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That news via Danny O'Neil, with a hat tip to Dukeshire and quickhandsandfeet for alerting me.
I hope Brandon Frye is ok. Neck stingers vary in severity, and though teams sometimes IR an injured player to retain him without taking a roster spot, Seattle is not in a position for a such shenanigans. I don't think. We probably will not receive updates until next year, but hopefully rest and time off is enough and he can return next year and provide valuable depth.
Damion McIntosh is a ten year veteran that played for Mike Solari in Kansas City. He was cut, in part, because his performance no longer matched his salary. He also isn't much of a pass defender. McIntosh played left tackle in 2007, but shifted to right tackle in 2008. Solari was his coach in 2007. He gives Seattle more overall depth at tackle, but I hope he isn't counted on to play left tackle against a good edge rusher. McIntosh is more power than finesse.
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IR? Apparently I have no idea what a 'stinger' is or feels like.
by LantermanC on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is very rare though
It’s usually minor. It’s just when the head is compressed towards the body or stretched away from the body. I think the latter is actually more common.
by John Morgan on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A neck stinger also ended the career of another notable McIntosh.
First round draft choice, I believe?
Was Damien McIntosh playing in the KC preseason game this year? For some reason I’m thinking of the Mebane-beats-a-triple-team-and-sacks-Cassell play.
by Groundhog on Oct 13, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that was Damion getting Cassell injured.
Remember this thing of beauty?
by Groundhog on Oct 13, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the reaction so far from Arrowhead Pride
by Groundhog on Oct 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be aloof
but I take fan reaction with a grain of salt. McIntosh earned that nickname protecting Tyler Thigpen.
by John Morgan on Oct 13, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't this the case with Mack Strong?
by BrianL on Oct 13, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the red flag that something else was wrong
As I understand it, “stingers” are more or less pinched nerves. So they can either be relatively minor one-time injuries or they can be symptoms of an underlying problem. In Mack & Chris McIntosh’s cases the stingers led Doctors to discover degenerative problems with their necks/spines.
For the team to IR Frye so quickly makes me think they discovered something pretty obvious in the X-Rays.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
by jteckmann on Oct 13, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John have you heard any news about Womack?
I can’t find out anything.
by mrcoffee1969 on Oct 14, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Porckchop? Signed with the Browns in the offseason
I believe he got hurt early in the year, missed a few weeks. Still with the Browns
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel better already
While Macintosh obviously isn’t Walter Jones, at least he has experience and I have to think he’ll be an improvement over Williams playing with a groin injury. Did we really have any other choices?
So how do you see our starting line looking for Sunday?
by diehard82 on Oct 13, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably
McIntosh, Wrotto, Spencer, Unger, Willis. Knapp will have to run at the ends to try to slow down the speed rush, but if Arizona has any smarts, it will go 3-4 (5) (that’s how I notate it anyway) with both OLBs threatening the edges.
by John Morgan on Oct 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't that be vulnerable to the inside run?
Which should be a Seahawks’ strength with McIntosh, Wrotto, Spencer, Willis.
by Groundhog on Oct 13, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually more open to the outside run
because playing the linebacker so close, you can get him tied up right after snap. Unfortunately, Seattle is still struggling with the zone blocking system and the opposite outside linebacker has a chance to chase the rusher from behind. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen Jones caught from behind.
by John Morgan on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our stretch play is not looking so hot yet.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should position him wide left as a reciever and then run the ball in his direction...
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 13, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent.
Now all we need is a catchy name for the position.
How ’bout “The MattCat”?
by Groundhog on Oct 14, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad, good ring to it.
But I like the “WildMatt”. As much as we like “CalmMatt” better.
by djafrot on Oct 14, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Levi Jones was still available....
by thebyron on Oct 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Lions worked him out and didn't sign him.
I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole now, something must be really up.
by Fearless Frog on Oct 13, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your mother's been tellin' stories about me again.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
She just wants you to remove the pole from your ass so you'll stop being so uptight about everything
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 14, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That’s all.
Just a whole lot of wow to go all around this subthread.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by whiskey chainsaw on Oct 15, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Left Tackle is the new WR for the Seahawks...
That’s a shame, I thought Frye was doing a great job over there. He’s still pretty young, I hope he can get back and play next year.
by supershane on Oct 13, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Any chance of Locklear coming back this week?
by MFAN on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He, Hill, and Tru are scheduled to come back for the Dallas game
The average human being supposedly eats 8 pounds of food per day. Aaron Curry eats 8 humans for breakfast.
by SSreporters on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People are telling me McIntosh a sack machine.
Don’t know how valid those claims are since I don’t recall seeing him play in several years. In either case, it’s hopefully just one game until Locklear is back, and he probably won’t be much worse than an injured Frye or Kyle Williams.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I’m betting he’s emergency depth like Frye was, and Kyle starts. And I’d feel slightly more comfortable with that.
by jacobstevens on Oct 13, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Mora said that Williams is going to play in his press conference today.
by timlin45 on Oct 13, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Williams should start
But I still wonder whether Vallos might challenge Wrotto for the start at OG. He made some good blocks at OG last week from what I saw.
I think we have decent depth at OG. I’m very uncomfortable with Williams at OT.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
by Stevo's on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I trust Vallos' pass-blocking better than Wrotto's.
I also thought Vallos looked better at G than he did at C in the preseason.
by Groundhog on Oct 13, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just rewatched the first half, Willaims looked terrible on many plays
If not for Hasselbeck getting rid of the ball quick and Carlson being held in to help, it could’ve gotten very ugly on quite a few plays. Plus, keeping Carlson in means he can’t do what he does best, catch the ball down the field.
I’m a little scared for Sunday. I hope McIntosh doesn’t suck, it’s at least reassuring that he’s played with Solari before, but there is a reason why we chose Frye first. Oh well, another one down, McIntosh, you’re up.
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 13, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason for choosing Frye, IMO, was long-term potential.
I don’t know if he’s really that much better, especially considering his youth.
Damn, how many fricking tackles do we have to go through?
by djafrot on Oct 13, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The description of McIntosh sounds Wahle-like (ignoring that Wahle was a guard)
-Better run blocker than pass blocker
-10 year veteran
-Released from previous team because play did not match salary
-Ties with coaching staff (McIntosh→ Solari, Wahle→ Holmgren)
Some people (not here) moronically thought that Mike Wahle would be the savior of the 2008 OL, which of course he wasn’t, but he was still semi-solid for most of the season, and the Seahawks certainly could have done worse. I’m sure Wahle was a higher caliber player than McIntosh currently is, and Left Tackle puts a higher premium on pass pro than Left Guard, but I couldn’t help but be reminded of Wahle reading the description. Locklear may be back after the AZ game.
I guess the real question is, if McIntosh is a sack machine, wouldn’t an injured Kyle Williams be just as bad? If I had to choose one, I’d probably start whoever is healthier.
by kearly on Oct 13, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's better than trading away a draft pick
we’re desperate. Had to do something.
by ASeahawkfan on Oct 13, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
I would rather we take a low-risk gander on this guy, if anything at least for depth, rather than piss away a draft pick on some underperforming retread.
by Fearless Frog on Oct 13, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Convert Red Bryant in the offseason?
Watching Red Bryant shove doubleteams around this past Sunday was a thing of beauty. But when Mora ran down his options at LT after Kyle Williams I think he mentioned Red Bryant. The thought of bookends like Bryant and Willis developing into solid tackles that could anchor a decade of dominance makes me giddy. But what do i know.
Any thoughts on that?
by lenert on Oct 13, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Has it done before?
I mean a KC linebacker has 11TD catches.. so Bryant at LT isn’t TOO strange a notion.
And all the land was in ruin, and burnination had forsaken the countryside.
by Cheddar28 on Oct 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Vrabel.
You’d think teams would learn by now that when he lines up in the endzone, it would be wise to cover him.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like the silliest idea ever.
That said, I would not be shocked if we saw that this season in an emergency situation.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I generally like to stay away from creating two problems to solve one
Seattle is better off scanning the waiver wire. Some team may need to try to sneak a guy onto the PS, much in the same way we lost Michael Bennett.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Oct 14, 2009 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll find out soon enough why we called him "Sackintosh"
Most of us were very happy to have gotten rid of him.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 13, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The FA tackle list is thinner than Kate Moss on 3 days of laxatives
From NorthwestSports.net:
(not sure how up-to-date)
Levi Jones
Mark Tauscher
John Runyan
Jonas Jennings
Kwame Harris
John St. Clair
Junius Coston
Rob Petitti
Fred Miller
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Oct 14, 2009 4:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In other words, it's hard to be critical of the McIntosh selection
given the tie to the coaching staff…
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Oct 14, 2009 4:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah. And injury stacking sucks
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Oct 14, 2009 4:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tauscher was re-signed by the Packers this week.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 14, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you haven't see this, here's a great vid clip of McIntosh
playing RT last December getting out front on a screen and blasting a S and CB out of their shoes. This is not quite the same as him pass protecting at LT in our system, of course, but definitely fun to watch a guy with this kind of power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FwFgKstwdU
Post Game Comments on that game from McIntosh: "It was a wide screen. I was able to get out clean. I got the corner, my main assignment and the safety was around so I was able to get a good, clean block on the next guy too."
So, the KC fans took to calling him “Sackintosh”, but while playing RT last December, McIntosh handled Joey Porter and held him without a sack. Then he handled Texan’s Mario Williams in the pre-season last August before being cut. So he may not be done yet.
But at 330-plus pounds, he sure does not look like a zone blocking left tackle. Then again, Kyle Williams doesn’t look like much, so I’m happy to see McIntosh here to back up for awhile.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
by Stevo's on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That clip is friggin hilarious!
It doesn’t even look like he’s trying that hard, but those guys go flying. Are you sure those are NFL players and not PeeWees?
by Groundhog on Oct 14, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sando quotes Scouts Inc as saying he's a finesse player, not a power player.
by Ocho on Oct 14, 2009 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm done with Sando
Here wrote a summary to the Hawks-Bears game and it told a story of Seattle not being able to contend and pretty much wrote Seattle off. Then when questioned about it in the comments, retracted and said he hadn’t watched the game and had only looked at the score before writing his piece. He followed that with an apology stating that he could only watch so many games before he had to have his summary in. How do you apply for that job?
by HawkedUp on Oct 14, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're kidding, right?
He didn’t even watch the game? Do you have a link to that?
That’s pretty embarrassing.
by djafrot on Oct 14, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, I believe he covers 8 teams,
and can’t watch all the games. Also he’s probably under pressure to give an opinion on everything and simply stating ‘I don’t know, I didn’t pay attention to it’ is probably not acceptable to his editor.
by LantermanC on Oct 14, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he just covers the NFC West
He does the power rankings for 8 teams, though.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 14, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I agree with the other stuff
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 14, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
I do. I go to a sports bar here in Denver weekly to watch games, and I track everything that’s going on in some fashion or another.
If I was paid to write about it instead of merely tracking my fantasy guys and general game excitement, I’d probably eat fewer wings and drink fewer beers, while increasing my attention to detail and ability to write considerably.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by whiskey chainsaw on Oct 15, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who can do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRl0LT0i55E
is welcome on this team
by rex92 on Oct 15, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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