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Auditing the Seahawks Roster: Left Tackle

I assume this is an optical illusion and Matt Hasselbeck doesn't really dwarf Kurt Warner. Warner is all smiles. Hasselbeck has the wan smile of a man with tenderized insides. Flipping the two expressions starts with improving the offensive line. Improving the offensive line starts with a starting caliber left tackle.

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I assume this is an optical illusion and Matt Hasselbeck doesn't really dwarf Kurt Warner. Warner is all smiles. Hasselbeck has the wan smile of a man with tenderized insides. Flipping the two expressions starts with improving the offensive line. Improving the offensive line starts with a starting caliber left tackle.

Seattle has assembled quite a motley crew at left tackle. The bye week is a good time to determine the future of the position and how Seattle should get there.

Walter Jones: Here's my hope: Jones does not return to the Seahawks this season. With his time off stretching well over a year, Jones begins recapturing the joy of not playing. He realizes he has nothing left to prove to the league, no need for the remainder of his contract, and a long life ahead of him, knees, shoulders and brain intact. Walter Jones announces his retirement and Seahawks fans everywhere can begin what will be a lifelong tribute to the greatest Seahawk to ever put on Blue.

Sean Locklear: Seattle signed Sean Locklear to a five-year, $32 million contract in 2008. That contract contained escalators if Locklear eventually took over at left tackle. He started this season as Seattle's starting left tackle, but wasn't there long before being sidelined with yet another injury. Injuries have become a major problem for Lock. He is not a superstar and does not play a position Seattle needs a superstar, but he doesn't become a good target for release until the offseason of 2011. He is guaranteed $12 million and, to my knowledge, has only been paid a hair more than $6 million.

Locklear has the skills to be what Seattle needs in a left tackle. He is good in pass pro and a good fit for a zone blocking scheme. He has good footwork, takes good angles and knows how to pull out, cut and block on the move. His most recent injury is another in a line of disconnected, fluke injuries that have plagued him. Perhaps Locklear lacks the ability to protect his body, but that is such a hard thing to know. Locklear's injuries are not the degenerative kind. He does not have the weakened shoulder joints or bollocksed up knees of a player in premature decline. He hasn't shown lingering effects from his injuries and Malcolm Gladwell does not weep for his brain.

Locklear gives Seattle freedom to approach the draft and offseason with options. The team might add a better talent at left tackle and move Locklear back to right tackle. It might think there is better talent at guard or right tackle, and decide to keep on Locklear and hope he develops. It could move Locklear to guard. His injuries have hurt his value, and he is no longer cheap, but his contract is not burdensome. Locklear has a place within this organization for now, be it starting at left tackle, starting at right tackle, starting at guard, insuring a draft pick, providing depth or just being a bridge until a better player can take over.

Brandon Frye: Frye got thrown in the deep end and couldn't learn to swim before he had to be dragged out, gasping. For a little while, he flailed his arms and kept his head above water. Then the big kids jumped in and pulled off his shorts. Dwight Freeney did to Frye what Jay Ratliff did to Steve Vallos. Vallos returned the next season and proved he could provide depth at center. Frye could return next season and start.

I like Ray Willis a lot, but he is not matched to Seattle's scheme. It's hard watching a big man move so well and yet clearly not well enough to do what is asked of him. Watch Willis attempt to pull across the front of the line and engage an opposite field linebacker and you'll see for all his open-field blocking ability and big-man quicks, he is simply not quick enough to arrive in time. Frye is. Frye is the type of player a zone blocking scheme should have. He isn't huge and he doesn't eat small countries for breakfast like a Philly right tackle, but he has decent size, good versatility and very good athleticism. He isn't a mauler, but can maul when he has the angle or an assist. Most importantly, he can get out and cut that opposite field linebacker to spring C.J. Spiller for a 93 yard run off left tackle.

Kyle Williams: When Williams practice squad eligibility expires, so does his usefulness to Seattle. It's not your fault, guy, blame Vallos. I know I do. For everything. As Maggie Simpson so eloquently put it: "You're the reason I can't talk."

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Faith in Lock

Sounds like he’ll be serviceable if he can shake the injury bug. Let’s hope it happens.

In regards to Willis: Do you feel it’s likely that he gets traded for talent that better fits our scheme? We let him go in free agency?

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Oct 20, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep him for his contract and bring in talent to compete for his spot.

No reason dropping good depth, even if it’s not perfectly matched for the scheme.

Then again, I’ve seen good talent let go because of scheme conflicts.

by John Morgan on Oct 20, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree completely

Lock is the kind of talent that we can’t just throw away, but in recent years his dependability has become a question. If we draft quality depth at Tackle, we have insurance, and can depend on Locklear safely because an injury would no longer kill us.

by kearly on Oct 20, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The more I watch Locklear and others play at LOT

the more I like seeing Locklear stay there. The rest of the line just needs to play healthy together for a string of games to find out what they can do.

Why doesn’t Max Unger look more impressive at ROG this year?

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Oct 20, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no doubt

but its still unsettling watching him get tossed around in the NFL, after watching him toss other people around at Oregon. I hope he has the ability to add more strength.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Oct 20, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call me hopelessly naive but...

I’m not ready to write off Walter Jones or this season quite yet.

The Cards and Niners are both underdogs this week and could both be 3-3 by this time next week. A perfectly realistic scenario. And that puts us 1 game out of the division lead (though we currently lose tie-breakers to both teams).

I’m also fully prepared to pin the Seahawks failings on injuries at key positions. At this point, the dogs breakfast of an O-Line is the main difference between the 09 team competing versus getting slaughtered by any half-decent defense.

But if we could actuallly get Jones, Lock and Sims back on the field I like our chances against just about anyone south of the top teams in the conference (the Saints, Giants and Vikes) and enjoying a respectable season. I mean, if Jones is toast, why is he still on the roster?

by Keasley on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

at this point I'd be thrilled with just Lock and Sims back on the field.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Oct 20, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally, totally agree.

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Oct 20, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jones situation is complex

We don’t know that he’s done, it’s just the most likely explanation. He isn’t injured and so there is nothing to treat, but his knee is sore and continues to swell. The procedure he underwent has a long timetable for recovery, and the range of recovery is great. If this was another player, Seattle might cut him and re-sign him if he ever recovers, like it did with Marcus Tubbs, but this is Walter Jones. I would guess that is why he is still on the roster.

by John Morgan on Oct 20, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the whole zone blocking scheme

and this is coming from someone who doesn’t really understand everything…

Situation – if Jones miraculously becomes healthy, and Lock is healthy, would they be able to share the field together, or would Lock have a further adjustment period moving back over to RG (where I assume he’d go if he’s sharing the field with Jones).

by chrees on Oct 20, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what Seattle does if Jones recovers

Broadly speaking, he could work in a zone blocking scheme, but is he really going to cut block anyone?

by John Morgan on Oct 20, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he has to get in shape

lot of people have said he’s gotten humongous, being physically limited. I haven’t seen or noticed.

by jacobstevens on Oct 20, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose we could let Na'Shan Goddard stand there on the sideline instead of Walt

but why not just let Walt stand there instead. If we had his roster spot available, what the heck could we do with it anyway?

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Oct 20, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

John, to echo BrianL, this whole series has been pretty tremendous

I really want Lock and Sims back in a couple of weeks. It is insane to see how these injuries have piled up on each other.

As for LT, I’ve been a Lock fan there for a while, and think Frye’s the best depth we’ve shown there for a while. I agree with you that Walt’s probably not coming back.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Oct 20, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"this whole series has been pretty tremendous"

Agreed. Brought me back from my post Seahawk-loss depression earlier then expected.

by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 20, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm......CJ Spiller........

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer, Sam Bradford*.

by Misfit74 on Oct 20, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo....

Spiller or a safety/OT for our later 1st round pick?

by LantermanC on Oct 21, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes a bigger impact, but I would argue the dropoff is not as big.

Charles Brown compared to Brandon Frye (assuming injuries to tackles continue)
Or Spiller to Forsett?
I’d rather have Brown.

Of course if we’re going to look at replacement level value, I’d argue Saftey and DT are very important as well, though it seems like decent safeties are always available such as Sharper and Leonhardt and aren’t too expensive. Meanwhile, guys like Bernard and Colin Cole are going for $4-6 million per year.

by LantermanC on Oct 21, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree.

RBs can still be reasonably productive even if they are clearly less talented than others. Tackles, especially replacement level like Frye, can be good for being an extreme liability once on every drive.

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As can a replacement level RB

one reason we cut Duckett. It was apparent that if we had to rely on him we were done. The other guys are substantially better runners and we’re still struggling running.

Replacement level is different. Though no one specified what we’re dropping off to, I see it was dropping off from top tier to average starter. Ultimately no one is satisfied with a replacement level guy like Frye is at this stage of his development. But an average starter, sometimes stays such for years.

Matt Light and Levi Brown and all Tarik Glenn’s replacements — even Flozell Adams at this point in his career — aren’t special but your offense can still thrive with them. Average Julius Jones is putting us in a corner and we have little recourse in how to win, how to adjust to opponents’ targeting our QB, how to keep our defense off the field.

by jacobstevens on Oct 21, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem

Don’t you mean “below average” Julius Jones?

by thebyron on Oct 21, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd kill for Matt Light or Flozell the False Start right now.

I don’t think the problem is so much Julius as it is our line’s inability to run-block. Zone-blocking sounds good in theory but I liked it better when we just ran the fuck over everyone when they knew it was coming.

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 22, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it?

Is he considered the top back? That nearly guarantees top of the 1st round.

by jacobstevens on Oct 21, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a three dog race between Spiller, Best, and Dwyer right now.

Who knows what the Combine and Pro Days will do with what I think right now, though. Guys like Ryan Matthews or Andre Anderson could emerge. Guys like DeMarco Murray could declare…

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer, Sam Bradford*.

by Misfit74 on Oct 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's October

The players available will look completely different 6 months from now; it’s way too early to predict who will be at the top, or who will be taken where.

by DJ C-Raig on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heck

the draft boards will look a lot different the day before the draft than the do the day of.

"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie

by ninjasocks on Oct 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All good things do come to an end...

Agree that Walt and Hawks need to move on next year for the benefit of both. We could definitely use that cap space, here’s a link to 2010 free agents, assuming no franchise tags used (lol)

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2010

I’d love for us to make a play for Marcus McNeil (LT, Chargers), highly doubt that he’d be available but they do have Castillo as a free agent as well and cap restriction.

Here’s some notable lineman entering FA2010:

Justin Hartwig (C, Steelers)
Winston Justice (T, Eagles)
Chris Snee (G, Giants)
John Tait (T, Bears)
Ben Hamilton (G, Broncos)

Logan Mankins (G, Pats)
Stephen Neal (G, Pats)
*One of these two could possibly make it to FA, interesting if they let one of these go.

Lastly, for some reason, they list Jamie Sharper for the Hawks, is his contract finally up in 2010? Is he still on our books?

by PoolNinja on Oct 20, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link

There’s something to be said for targeting an OT or OG in free agency, instead of investing years in a youngster.
Considering the two first round draft choices we will have next year, its is a bit more palatable to me to think of drafting a QB high to be developed for a couple years, or drafting an RB, S or DT high, since those players tend to develop much more quickly and can contribute as rookies.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Oct 20, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about this guy?

Saints LT Jermon Bushrod didn’t allow one pressure to Giants RE Osi Umenyiora in Week 6.
Football Outsiders also believes that Bushrod, hailed by Mel Kiper two years ago as the steal of the ‘07 draft, is already better than usual Saints left tackle Jammal Brown. Bushrod’s swift development has been one of the unsung stories for the 5-0 Saints. He is slated for restricted free agency in 2010 -Rotoworld

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer, Sam Bradford*.

by Misfit74 on Oct 20, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm more of a Tony Ugoh guy myself

I have not watched Bushrod in any meaningful way, but unknown left tackles on successful offenses are often overvalued. Brees or his fit within the New Orleans system could be making him look better than he is. Or better than he would be without Brees or within a different system.

by John Morgan on Oct 20, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I'm not gay or anything..."

But this series has made me a John Morgan fan boy. Love the C.J. Spiller reference, let’s get that done.

by DJ C-Raig on Oct 20, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't $6 million a year pretty big for a RT?

If I had to guess I would have guessed that was in the top 10 salaries amongst RT’s.

by Brendan Scolari on Oct 21, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

ish.

USA Today NFL Salary Database

I thought it sounded like no bargain, but ever since the CBA that was backed out of by the owners brought in the big jump in total cap, it’s hard to keep context, I just glossed over it.

And I thought what you thought, but the problem there is that’s the total Locklear’s been paid on this contract. Not a bargain basement price, but when your cap figure is between Reggie Wells and Melvin Fowler, you’re not killing your team, especially if they play you as an average, serviceable left tackle.

by jacobstevens on Oct 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

But then his cap number is rising so won’t it be high in the next couple years?

by Brendan Scolari on Oct 21, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on how much LT he plays

"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie

by ninjasocks on Oct 21, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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