So You're Telling Me There's a Chance
by lemonverbena on Oct 25, 2009 4:13 PM PDT
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Dead as they look and feel after last week's debacle, the Seahawks are still alive in our boring, mediocre little corner of the league, the NFC West. Yay realignment!
San Francisco has now lost two in a row to fall to 3-3. Sando is optimistic, but a QB carousel and upcoming road game at Indy don't bode well for their future prospects. Arizona will likely be 3-3 as well when they visit NYG this evening. Whoops. St. Louis was out of the race in August.
So, how hard will it be to catch AZ and SF? The remaining schedule:
Arizona seems to have the clearest road to the division title. But anything can happen in the National. Football. League. San Diego was dead and buried at 4-8 last year, then the Broncos imploded and the Chargers reached the 2nd round of the playoffs.
If we were to game out what might happen, it could look something like this:
Update: the hypothetical scenario above was just cornholed by Arizona's win at the Giants. Add another loss to their column to get the Cardinals to 9-7. Yeah, we're fucked.
In this scenario Seattle would tie head-to-head with the Cards, then win the division-record tiebreaker 4-2 to Arizona's 3-3. If you project SF going 9-7 for a three-way tie, then the Niners would probably win the head-to-head record tiebreaker by virtue of their Week 1 win at Arizona. None of this is a prediction, mind you, and the current Hawks don't look like they will make it "likely" by going 7-3 the rest of the way. It is entirely possible, however. Doable. Attainable.
A loss at Dallas next week would suck, but it would be predictable, and it would not be the end of the season. This team needs to get healthy, beat the teams it should beat, and most importantly, win within the division. If they can't find a way to win both remaining games versus the Cardinals and 49ers they lose the tiebreaker. Then the season really will be over.
Until then, I really am telling you there's a chance. There has to be a chance. September 2010 is a terrible thing to wait for.
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Detroit, Tenn, St. Louis, Tampa Bay
We got a pretty easy schedule overall. Although I don’t think we’ll be beating Houston.
by Tyler Cox on Oct 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you something though...
A game like Tennessee isn’t all that easy. I could honestly see Johnson running for 200 against us. Match-ups are a weird thing. One teams easy games are another’s achilles heel.
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by iverson2169 on Oct 25, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona and Houston are going to be tough games for us
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by ninjasocks on Oct 25, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who said anything about September 2010?
The draft’s in June.
by LantermanC on Oct 25, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
June?
April!
Chad Brown for the Ring of Honor!
by Big Seahawk Loser on Oct 25, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit I did it again!
I did that last year as well. Confusing NBA with NFL. Or is NBA in July?
by LantermanC on Oct 25, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about playoffs anymore
The team has so much holes to fill in the offense that I wouldn’t mind bombing the season and netting a top-10 pick.
by aerozeppelin on Oct 25, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll probably do that unintentionally anyway,
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 25, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The number 8 pick is always 'more valuable' than the number 12 pick.
Look at it one way, the average 8th pick produces on average 30 million dollars of value and is paid on average 30 million dollars. Dead even.
But if a number 12 pick produces on average 22 million dollars and is paid on average 20 million dollars, it would seem the number 12 pick is more valuable no? (numbers are all random)
Well there’s a difference between actual value and perceived value. There will always be someone willing to give up a 5th rounder or more to move up, so an 8th overall pick is always more valuable than a 12th, since you can always get to the 12th pick and get a pick (if that pick isn’t worth anything, then just trade the pick for money or a salary dump or whatever).
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too optimistic.
See us doing much worse than the possible 9-7 outcome and the Cards better.
by redwolf75 on Oct 25, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We've never won at the Cardinals new stadium.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 25, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Quite doable.
On the other hand, also quite a good chance of imploding.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Oct 25, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs?!
I just hope we can win a game.
by aerozeppelin on Oct 25, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm beginning to hope that other bad teams start winning more games...
That’s not usually a positive sign.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer, Sam Bradford*.
by Misfit74 on Oct 25, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see Arizona losing to Green Bay, even if they're at home.
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by Coach Owens on Oct 25, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have this bad feeling Arizona's going to go 12-4 and we'll be 5-11.
And this is Twilight Zone 2005.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And how weird is that
That Arizona is 1-2 at home but undefeated on the road so far…? Oh well. Eli needs to lose more often imo.
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by Cheddar28 on Oct 25, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
with the bye week over
should the Hawks feel a spark coming into Dallas they could win at least 5 more games. I don’t know about SF, AZ and TN those could go either way. I don’t think we win against TN.
I ROCK out with my HAWK out, therefore I am....
by durteehawk on Oct 26, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough to say what TN will look like by week 17,
but right now they look just as bad as the Rams…
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they match up well against us.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we lost, but like you said, it’s hard to say what the circumstances will be in the last game of the season.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 26, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say it
but barring some miraculous turnaround with players getting healthy and staying healthy, we’re much more likely to end up 6-10 than 9-7. Can we win a road game? Aside from St. Louis, there aren’t any slam-dunks in our schedule. Detroit and Tampa at home should be convincing wins. However, it would be an upset for us to beat San Fran, Arizona and Houston. 6-10 would be an improvement on 4-12 and will give put us picking at around 8 or 9 in the draft. We do have too many holes to fill just through the draft, so I hope we are active in FA.
by diehard82 on Oct 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cards will beat the Bears
Not too far off, though. Almost certainly we’ll be on the outside looking in, but after the struggles, I’ll feel a little better that we’ll have come close, presuming we do, despite the consequence that has on draft position.
Let’s see what we can do against Dallas. The Falcon pass rush looked a lot like ours has. Close, lot of movement, but a good QB still makes the toss. Matt’s going to have to be steadfast.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We may surprise
But it would not surprise me to see us get beat by a still talented Tennessee team and a steadily improving Rams team. Color me a negative-nelly, but we seem to play to the level of our opponent. Maybe that has changed this year with the two shutouts, but that is our history. I’d love to see 9-7; for us, and the bronco’s.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn't surprise me, either
but we don’t play down to the level of competition. Mostly because the one team that we’ve played that’s certainly inferior to us is the Rams and we beat them down. The Jags may be inferior, our equal, or superior, but we beat them down. The Bears are turning out to be poor, maybe worse than us. We outplayed them, but didn’t underwhelm, really. We had Seneca and expectations weren’t necessarily high.
The Cowboys are a team that plays down to the level of competition. That happens when you have a wet noodle coach. We don’t. It’s the only reason why we may have a chance against Dallas, but ideally you don’t want those kind of intangibles to be a primary factor in your chances to win a game.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus I think the term "trap game" is an overused cliche.
But Dallas looked pretty cocky at the end of that Falcons game and they play the Eagles in two weeks. Is it possible they won’t give much thought to us coming in there with a 2-4 record and how bad we played there last year? I know, it’s still a longshot but I think talent wise we’re as good as them if not better and I’m looking for reasons to be optimistic.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Oct 27, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is, too, but it's real
The idea that they don’t prepare as hard, or they take some of their meetings and start gameplanning against the opponent after, or watch their film, I would be very surprised to see that happen. Even for a guy like Phillips. I mean that’s just asking for it.
Except that I’m 100% positive that Belichick spends some time on upcoming opponents each week and doesn’t dedicate 100% of recon resources to the immediate opponent. Doesn’t tell his players, he has to keep them focused, and I’m sure they believe that he’s as focused on the next game as they are, but he’s a student of military history and I guarantee he knows better than to only focus on one game at a time.
But the trap game in my mind comes down to the mentality of the team the morning of the game. It does feel like there’s a very realistic chance a contingent of the Cowboys will wake up and walk into the stadium expecting to win, expecting their star teammates to destroy us, and expecting us to not compete. And the lack of desperation could invite opportunity to be upset. But then again they could be absolutely right.
by jacobstevens on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be shocked if the Cards don't finish 11-5 at worst
Niners will finish 9-7 and we finish 7-9 or 6-10.
Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.
by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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