Monday Night Football/Jason Campbell is the Future - Game Thread
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:17 PM PDT
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I am looking for a local bar with wifi so I can watch this, but wherever, I will find a way to see Jason Campbell work. I am putting this up now, but my plan is to get another post before I embark. Campbell is not a popular quarterback. He lives in that narrow range between the good quarterbacks fans adore and haters discredit based on their surrounding talent and the bad quarterbacks fans ignore and haters defend based on their surrounding talent. He has a 60.5% completion percentage for his career, one that has improved every season and is now 65.6%, and a 5.8% sack percentage for his career. His sack percentage has increased with his completion percentage. The Redskins have a weak offensive line, and their best lineman, Chris Samuels, is out for the season and considering retirement.
The case for Jason Campbell is simple. He does not cost Seattle a draft pick. He has proven at least competent as a pro. His mix of mobility and arm strength make him a good fit for the Greg Knapp offense. He is Tim Ruskell approved. The final argument might be new to some. Campbell turns 28 New Year's Eve of this year. Pro Football Reference found a quarterback's peak seasons are 28-31. In those seasons, a general NFL quarterback performs at 98.5, 100, 99.5 and 97.3% of their capacity, so to speak. If Seattle signed Campbell to a five-year contract, it would also get Campbell's age 32 season, where he would be expected to perform at 93.7% of his ability.
Compare that to the Seahawks most likely alternatives. 2010 would be Matt Hasselbeck's age 35 season. An average NFL quarterback performs at 76.8% of his ability at 35 and 69.9% at 36. A drafted quarterback, say Sam Bradford, would be 22-23 in 2010. A 23 year old quarterback performs at 53.1% of his ability. A young quarterback does not perform at above 80% until they are 26. 2013-2014 is a long time to wait before Seattle contends again, and much of its current talent would be gone or past its prime.
The Seahawks are stuck in the morass between quarterbacks. Teams find occasional success unearthing former busts, like Tennessee did last season with Kerry Collins. But refurbished busts are a temporary solution and teams that get fat with them one season often live to regret it. Contenders develop their own quarterbacks, or, like Drew Brees and the Saints, find that very rare free agent quarterback still before or in his prime. Seattle could draft a pick and wait, it could count on Matt Hasselbeck though Hasselbeck has exhibited every recognizable sign of decline, it could ignore that most important position and attempt to build everything else, or it could invest free agent dollars into Jason Campbell, have him for his peak, preserve its two first round picks, and attempt to win now, with the talent its developed just entering their peak. Thus avoiding the total tear down and rebuild that might otherwise be unavoidable.
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"out for the reason"
The reason being the knee injury I’m betting. But what’s his season status?
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As a stopgap, yes
As a future face of the franchise, no.
If he can’t run a West Coast system* in DC how can he run it here?
- = depending Sherm Lewis’ playcalling
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Different West Coast system.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could you explain how?
I rarely watch the Redskins anymore.
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a little more air coryell under Gibbs.
I actually think Seattle and Washington run similar offenses now (I could be wrong), but Seattle has better surrounding talents.
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn has more a Holmgren system I believe.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Washington have a zone blocking scheme like we do?
Or did that leave with Gibbs?
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not positive
Just more of the way they run their WR routes seems more like the timingness of holmgren.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda of like how Burleson seemed lost under Holmgren and now is tearing it up under Knapp.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly. It was only 2 seasons.
First season transitions are tough for WR, and the second season he blew his knee out in the first game.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate actually got hurt in his 3rd season.
I think it was clear he was having some trouble in Holmgren’s system, especially in 2006 when he barley made an impact outside of returns.
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he would have been on track in 2008 if he wasn't injured
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by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They never had ZBS
Gibbs uses power running. Al Saunders added his 900-page playbook to the mix using typical hat-on-hat blocking.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you be so certain?
And define “run.” Is he grasping the offense, knowing what to do when, knowing what to audible to, when? What specific conflicts do you see between his abilities and the WCO?
What I see is ball control issues and what I’m guessing is problems reading defenses quickly. He can read them. He can make good decisions, generally. He doesn’t take too long and he doesn’t get flushed out by quasi pressure, too soon. But universal issues, not WCO issues. I think he’s had to learn more offensive systems/coordinators than Alex Smith.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the limited film I've seen of him
Bad reads, not great pocket presence and (sometimes) a relatively slow release compared to other QBs
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he's inconsistent
At times he makes the throws I’m perfectly happy with. Doesn’t help that his WRs are poor but I’m not using that as an excuse
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good, cuz I don't think they're that poor.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I mean is that
With good surrounding talent, I think he could take us to the first round of the play-offs, but no further.
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's tough to say.
Rex Grossman took the bears to a superbowl. I don’t know if Campbell can put the team on his back and bring them to the superbowl, but I don’t think he’ll keep them from going far*.
*If the surrounding talents comes together and plays well.
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad reads, has been a problem, that is true.
I think he’s got above average pocket presence.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this is always kind of a cop out
but this is the first time he has been in the same system for a 2nd year.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since high school.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Campbell has bigger hands :)
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which explains why Alex Smith
kicks ass at the Madden Bowl
(but not why he throws 3 frickin’ TDs to Vernon Davis in one half!)
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would still respond favorably to this move
but his comp% is partially on account of the very conservative playcalling and coaching guidelines he’s been ordered to live bound by. Like Seneca and Holmgren last year. And probably as a response to limiting the INTs since his development hasn’t seemed to reign them in just yet. Kind of low last year, with Zorn, but it doesn’t look solved to me just yet. He also has a high number of fumbles, which I hadn’t noticed by watching, so not sure what the causes might be.
Our QB coach now is Lazor who came from Washington, and Zorn was good — I won’t say Campell not breaking out is an indictment of Zorn, but I do think if there are aspects of QBing that Campbell needs to get better at to be actually successful during his peak seasons, we’re not necessarily the most optimal environment to support that, relative to other teams and relative to our immediate past with Holmgren.
Holmgren excepted, I would say Campbell in 2010 would have the edge in nearly every factor than Hasselbeck did in 2001 & 2002, when it comes to odds for success. So I would still respond quite favorably to the move, and it would surely be buying low. But there’s complications to making it work.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Zorn has other things to worry about and probably doesn't get to spend the time he would like to with Campbell.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. Didn't mean that Zorn was acting as a QB coach
But was identifying and contrasting our QB coaching infrastructure with what we knew, Holmgren/Zorn in the past, recognizing that even as head coach Holmgren mad quite an impact on our QB development.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My comment wasn't so much a reply as it was a supporting fact to your statement.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell also throws a nice deep ball.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang it John
You make this sound fantastic. I would take Campbell in a heartbeat. But what is the reality of this actually happening?
by Havik on Oct 26, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually think it has a decent chance of happening.
It makes a lot of sense and I imagine Ruskell loved Campbell back when he was drafted.
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's pretty much 100% out the door.
What teams will be interested. Of them, who will offer him a starting job. As opposed to the open competition with Jeff Garcia, JoeyHarrington, and a shot to be the backup QB if he doesn’t separate himself in training camp.
Here, we’d provide an opportunity to not just win the starting job, but earn a starting job essentially offered to him. The established QB is leaving soon. Either Campbell works, or we go another way. Not the same as a reeling team desperate for a fix, mitigating every signing with another re-tread to compete against.
by jacobstevens on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could also pick up Campbell
And still draft a QB.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would send Seneca's bumbling self out of here (or to his new WR position if he so desires)
Whatever gets him out. I quit defending him after throwing a 1 yard pass on 4th and 2 against Chicago.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the type of throw that needs a nearly impossible to catch for a skilled WR but thrown to a RB?
Yeah, I was less than impressed. Especially with the D bearing down on Julius even if he DID catch it. Horrible throw, horrible decision…
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by whiskey chainsaw on Oct 26, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has legs and we had one timeout. Fricking run it.
He baby dicked that throw (my new favorite term) when he could’ve scrambled out of the blitz and run for a first down.
The one that was jaw-dropping was the Chiefs game 3 years ago the week after Hasselbeck went down. It’s 4th and 18 and he dumps it off to Mack Strong. He had a relatively good game but that was retarded.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He really did Baby Dick it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome.
Keep Campbell around for 3-4 years, then dump him as he starts to decline and bring in the drafted QB who should be about 1 year away from hitting his peak. That could work out well (assuming the drafted QB isn’t a scrub).
by Fear on Oct 26, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two things make me like Jason Campbell.
A) He’s almost definitely underrated.
B) He won’t cost us a top 10 pick.
Assuming we have a top 10 pick, It’s a tossup between Bradford/Clausen/(whoever is available at the 8 spot) and a FA safety or LT (just an example), or Jason Campbell and Taylor Mays or Bryan Bulaga.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not the Taylor Mays thing again.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's looked better.
And I can’t use Berry because I think he’ll be gone before 8.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm about to sound silly
But was Berry playing against Alabama on the 24th? I watched most of the game and don’t remember hearing his name once, and I haven’t read anything about a suspension or injury.
Hard to see college games over here in the UK
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did a lot
Including helping force the first lost fumble of Mark Ingram’s career. That gave Tennessee at 2nd life with the ensuing offensive TD.
Then they of course had the winning FG blocked by Terrence Cody.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn ESPN highlights!
Always skips part of the game "due to time constraints!
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob doesn't like Berry
http://seahawksdraft.blogspot.com/2009/10/quick-thoughts-on-eric-berry-vs-alabama.html
I’m finding it increasingly difficult to place Eric Berry in the draft. He’s clearly a playmaking threat in the passing game, he reads plays well and he’s a threat to make an interception a pick six. On the other hand, he looks like he could be a complete liability against the run or simply facing the more physical receivers, tight ends and running backs in the NFL.
And he thinks Mays is problematic as well:
http://seahawksdraft.blogspot.com/2009/10/taylor-mays-and-draft-thoughts-on-usc.html
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by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees these issues with Mays.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think (and I'm probably going to get slated for this)
That he needs to lose some weight! 230lbs is fine for a RB but I think a FS needs to be quicker and more agile to keep up with the kind of receiving talent in the NFL. Granted, he lays the wood whenever he can, but unless he plans to be a SS at the next level, he seems a little slow in his reactions and coverage to project to be an elite FS.
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
He’ll just turn into another Roy Williams.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the bigger issues
are a failure to play the ball and an inclination to take the big hit over the pass defensed.
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Taylor Mays.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with that,
just as long as you’re basing some of that off of his play this year, and not just the last three.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather trade up (everyone forget we can do that?)
To get Berry than pick Mays. He can be a big hitter but he has to learn how to make a play and not kill people.
I want to see the next Ed Reed develop.
Granted if we pick Mays I won’t go all Fearless Frog on you.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds exactly like the criticism of Maulaga.
Talent wins.
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by Airborne Hawk Guy on Oct 26, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we pick Mays
Then I hope to god I’m wrong about him.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the USC game over the weekend.
Carrol plays Mays extremely far back in the secondary at the snap. He looks like a punt returner sometimes. However, he closes on every play; the speed is for real. However, so is the tendency to over pursue (230lbs, 4.3 speed, doesn’t exactly stop on a dime). I would love to see him play closer to line or over the top of a #1 receiver. I don’t think USC’s defensive scheme showcases his talent but it definitely prevents the big play. Oregon State figured that out pretty quickly and threw underneath Mays all night long. He was there on the tackles but didn’t have a chance to make a play on the ball.
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by Airborne Hawk Guy on Oct 26, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My biggest fear is his inability to move laterally.
And that USC playing him that deep actually helps hide this fact.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think of the Seahawks Draft Blog's dislike of Berry?
They seem to think he is pretty overhyped as well.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather get Berry as well,
but if it costs us our Denver pick to go from 8 to 3 (all hypothetical of course), then I’d rather just get Mays, or Bulaga (names are unimportant, just going off of perceived value, which is how this whole Mays things started…)
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a matter of time
before someone brought that up
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IN FLIP FLOPS!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm about as excited about Campbell
as I am about Orton, Hill or Quinn.
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by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Orton is flying off the handle.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
Would you want him to take over for Matt?
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by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea.
I can’t tell if its a fluke or not.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell a UFA or RFA? I would assume RFA if 2010 is uncapped.
by puerto on Oct 26, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he is a UFA
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drafted in 2005
So he’s been in the league for 5 years. RFA at the end of this season I think
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
RFA is less than 4 years, well unless the uncapped year goes through.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, my mistake
I thought it was 6 years. Been looking at the NBA’s salary cap recently, probably confusing it with that then
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 'let's get Cutler' (or any other QB) attitude
kinda gives it away
by rex92 on Oct 26, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His fault for going bananas and drafting him in the first round.
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 26, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we do this
I assume Beck’s in a restructure or get cut mode? I suppose we could bring Campbell in and have him sit in favor of Beck, but that seems kind of silly given whatever we’d be paying Campbell, his experience in the league, and what looks to be a middling season for Beck, assuming he makes it the rest of the way through.
We are in year one of at least a two-year O-line rebuilding. In light of that, it makes some sense to put your QB resources in a mobile, younger, presumably less injury-prone player rather than a guy who, God bless him, is not able (physically or, I believe increasingly, mentally) to withstand the pressure our O-line permits.
If we don’t like the QB draft class for next year, we roll with Campbell, Seneca, and Teel. Draft O-line and RB and in Campbell’s second year as a Hawk we may have a plausible defense-first, run-oriented, QB-game-manager team. As John suggests, if we draft QB in the first round in 2010 without an intermediate option, we’re looking at a while before we can contend.
by jeager on Oct 26, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The one that's not that good.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy who never throws further than 2 yards downfield.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Just doesn’t throw downfield.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else hoping for a flaming trainwreck of a Washington offense tonight?
It’s almost Hallowee, morbid curiosity is hot right now.
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by Airborne Hawk Guy on Oct 26, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping for Pizza and beer and am halfway there.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you find a bar?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not unfortunately
but I have a good looking stream.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called around and looked on Google
I though bar and wifi would be easy to find, but I guess not.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh - We should open one!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then have wacky misadventures?
I’m down.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll call the bar
Field Gulls Live!
Shrugs band could play on Friday and Saturday nights!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll drop in once a month, make a shitshow, insult the regulars, then leave.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BrianL could play Jazz on Thursdays.
I’ll constantly be over-serving minors and dealing crack in the alley.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a random note
But we should do a talking head webcam show with John, abender, BrianL and I
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to do it Around the Horn style, I'll just write a stupid phrase on my wall and vehemently disagree with anything
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll talk everything Football.
I’m going to wear a checkered hat and smoke a pipe.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And green screen it so I can do mine from Space!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just bring my laptop to Anatomy Lab and use my cadaver as a puppet.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be live also.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also I'm not wearing pants!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll come oiled up and wearing a face mask
Ultimate Warrior style.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this has the potential to be great.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just be good for giffing Brian Russell on the fly.
by BrianL on Oct 26, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was on this show Scruffy would spend an hour repeating "I can't believe you're that short."
by BrianL on Oct 26, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 3 times.
And if you missed we made the no scruffy no gif.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here
http://radscientist.com/joel/seahawks/noscruffyno.gif
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you find a bar extremely close to a coffee shop, or something else with wifi?
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too late now
We live in the suburbs and I would have to brave traffic to get anywhere.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Jason Campbell is the Seahawks future
That would be pretty bad for them. Of course it’d be better than going through the Rattay/Dorsey/Dilfer/Hill era, but I’d think you want to shoot a bit higher than that.
He could be a good 1 year starter while a rookie sits, I’ll give him that.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it now the Smith era redux?
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by Airborne Hawk Guy on Oct 26, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For now.....
We’lll see how this ends. Smith was awesome yesterday IMO, but let’s see it against a real defense, gameplanned against Smith, for longer than a half, etc. At least he looked a lot better than “The Winner”™.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What don't you like about Campbell?
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not very good
Tenatitive and doesn’t throw downfield. A rich man’s Shaun Hill I suppose.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what exactly does Zorn do now?
Challenge plays and call timeouts?
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 5:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
London Fletcher just threw up I think
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt very much
The Redskins cutting Cambell outright. With no CBA, cambell is a RFA, and they’ll put at least a 2nd round tag on him.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I GET IT JACKSON, I WAS WRONG ABOUT YOU
You can stop being amazing any time now
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson, a game changer
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
God I love DeSean Jackson
How dare the Niners not draft him instead of Chilo Rachal.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brendan do you live in the Bay Area?
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh haven't been to that area in 9 years
Always go to Oakland myself when I was little. Place is a wreck now.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oakland?
Yeah, it’s a dump. Most of the Bay is really nice though.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is San Jose worth living in?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not the one paying right now!
But it’s an awesome place to live, I’ll say that.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Siam Thai
MMmmmmm, yummy-yum-yum!
by John Edwards on Oct 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mwhahahahaa
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder how they'll pin that TD on Campbell.
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs more mental strength
Should have prevented that from the sidelines. Doesn’t have the will to win.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember people insisting he would break in two the first time he was tackled
tell that to Brian Russell.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was kind of like Heyward-Bey
That he skated through college on his athleticism.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeSean has unparalleled agility.
The speed he turns that corner is awesome.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one that thinks that Campbell is actually pretty good
and like the guys playing for the browns, it’s his team that’s at fault and he is just being scapegoated?
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No
But you can be underrated and still not be very good, if the fans think you are terrible.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snap wasn't that bad
Campbell should have caught it.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was bad
Campbell probably should have caught it, but that was a bad snap.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never played football as I've said before
but is the snap really that hard? It seems there is at-least one botched snap a week.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do anything that often and once in a while you'll screw it up
I’m sure the difficulty comes from trying to get into your block more than make the snap.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we trade Vallos or something? Must have been him.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So.....Campbell.....
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty small wristband
How many plays do they have?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3
Fumble, inc, interception.
The rest he just makes up, like Peyton Manning.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell is more of an athlete
not cerebral like Roethlisberger.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Not cerebral like Roethlisberger."
I gotta use that one more.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you were joking
But Campbell isn’t much of an athlete, if anyone didn’t know already.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaws just told us that Andy Reid likes to throws the football.
Genius.
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Reid has the highest percentage of pass plays in NFL history?
What about the old run and shoot teams? I would have thought they would have thrwon more than 59%. Maybe no run and shoot coach ever lasted 100 games…
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Church Van!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WEAVER!!!
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I love when there is a short run, and the runner is clearly stopped, and people jump on the pile
I always imagine they shout stuff like “WEEEEEE” or “MAN PILE”
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Man pile?
Sounds like this episode of Southpark.
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much longer does Westbrook last in this league?
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really want a "Hawks players that have left since the SB game, where are they now"
Like Shaun, where is he?
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking for a job
any job
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The subject is missing the word "post"
and the content is missing “please”
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still down
This is kind of fucked up.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how to say this regarding the Brees comparision
Wasn’t Brees a top 10 QB in terms of completion % and yardage for an up and coming SD team. That is a far cry from what Cambell is today. Granted, not fair to compare teams as a whole, but Brees was someone special with a major injury and a crazy GM.
In my view, Brees vs. Cambell is not even plausible.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bree was always super accurate
How is Campbell even half that?
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you were commenting on what John said, I thought the talking heads compared them
I don’t think John said Campbell is like Brees
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did he compare Brees to Campbell?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think John tried to say the two were comparable
Just that the only way to get a franchise QB is to draft one or luck into a Drew Brees situation.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, not necissarily saying that was the intention
But the result needs be similar, no? Otherwise, is it just something to do?
But refurbished busts are a temporary solution and teams that get fat with them one season often live to regret it. Contenders develop their own quarterbacks, or, like Drew Brees and the Saints, find that very rare free agent quarterback still before or in his prime.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are comparing their ability
I am comparing them as highly drafted young quarterbacks available in their prime.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Cambell be considered a better opportunity for success to Hasselbeck?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't quite get the question.
But is Campbell more than likely a better quarterback over the next three seasons than Matt Hasselbeck? Yes.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my question
Much thanks!
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell ain't available yet
A bit too early to say that. Beyond that he’s nowhere near as good as Brees as a passer. It’s a bit like comparing Alex Smith to Brees if Smith were a free agent. In the end, so what? All that matters is how they actually play.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snyder was falling over himself to get Sanchez and offered Denver a deal for Cutler
They’re done with Campbell.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No chance he gets traded a la Cassel?
I think someone said above that he’s a RFA if next year is uncapped. I’d imagine the Skins can get something for him if Sage Rosenfels got a 4th round pick.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Alex Smith and Jason Campbell aren't at all comparable
Look at their career stats, Campbell is light years ahead of Smith.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Brees is light years ahead of Campbell....
How are they comparable?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think John is saying that Campbell is the next Brees
but that he’s a talented young quarterback available via free agency. And actually Campbell and Brees’ first couple years aren’t that different, Brees exploded in his third full year though.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that would be key
Talented and young are pretty debatable at this point. Campbell is like 29, and if he is “talented”, so are Alex Smith and Jamarcus Russell. He doesn’t have great physical tools and hasn’t been very good.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is 27 (28 in December) and his teammates nicknamed him "Lips".
That’s talent.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he makes up for talent with dedication and practice
with his, you know, lips.
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are wrong about his age for one thing
which sort of undercuts your entire credibility.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy there
I was a year off, my bad. I don’t memorize the age of every NFL player.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not about memorization
it’s about researching your argument.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have to do research to know Jason Campbell is garbage.
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 26, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you're a special breed of hater.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:D
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 26, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JaMarcus Russell and Alex Smith are terrible and have shown they're terrible
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith showed he is perfectly capable of throwing 25 yard seam routes when his TE is uncovered.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
You clearly didn’t watch the game if that’s all you think Smith did.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith was awesome yesterday
He’s 3 years younger than Campbell, who has shown he’s not very good either. What has Campbell done to make you think he’s any good?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey let's ignore 3 years of play in favor of one game
Campbell’s numbers are decent, he’s still physically talented and he has legitimate excuses for his poor play to date. Mainly the amount of coordinator overturn he’s seen and the “offenses” he’s ran in the NFL.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Brady Quinn or Rex Grossman?
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Leavy.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was Delhomme esque
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow there was even a RB looking for someone to block
shouldn’t he have released into the flat?
(Wow look at me using football terms)
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Must be fun having your every mistake scrutinized.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Come work for the bank!
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets paid for it though.
Part of his job IMO
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are sicking themselves on him because he has a bad reputation
every quarterback makes passes like that.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one winless guy in my FF league
Just got a tie thanks to Westbrook going out.
God, his opponent’s top RB goes out and he still can’t win.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he should have employed the Tatooine Strategy
and grabbed Felix Pie off of waivers.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I on the other hand am about to be 6-1
I feel a little for him, I traded him Westbrook for C. Benson, worked out rather well for me.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you snaked that man's Chester Pitts
Pickled Herring is sour, but not as sour as dropping Mariano Rivera after a slow start.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard a lot of talk about how Benson was playing above his level
and that he’d break down eventually.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That dude is in a fucking dog costume!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can say one thing about Washington DC
Their fetishists aren’t afraid to take it to the streets (or the Skins game—heck, why do you think they call them the “Red Skins”?).
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually talking about a commercial.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there's always the dudes dressed up old lady pigs
There’s got to be something there.
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL TO THE REDSKINS!
FAIL to the Redskins! Fail Losses! Incompetents on the warpath Fight for old D.C.!
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Side impact causes the most concussions
I remember reading that in the NFL study.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On account of brain anatomy or SURPRISE BITCH! ?
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember
give me a second, I think I still have it saved.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does Zorn do during the games now
Sell hotdogs to Mark Sanchez?
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Zorn ain't sellin', and Sanchez ain't buyin.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might be about the only job he could get
ALthough really this is mainly Snyder’s fault the Skins suck so much.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're punting
No respect for the Redskins Offense and none earned.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Haynesworth out?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He was listed as questionable
But I don’t see him.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is playing
Has 2 tackles.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worth every penny of $40 million gaurunteed
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
seriously? What exactly did he do so wrong?
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing
Delhomme doesn’t really do a lot wrong. Like Holmgren’s OLine grading system, Cambell will grade out well, but he just seems to invite turnovers.
Delhomme, I love him, but he is a turnover machine. Dumb luck, maybe?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In reference to Holmgren OL comment
Gray graded out well, but was not a good player.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be rude
but that’s an absurd and meaningless analogy. Jason Campbell passed the ball. It was batted in the air. Maybe he shouldn’t have passed towards an offensive lineman that was getting beat. That’s about as much blame as I can assign him. Everything else is dumb luck. The flight of the ball in air. The fact that an Eagle caught it. The fact that Eagle had a path to the end zone. None of it reflects on Campbell.
Tiny mistake, huge consequence.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not rude at all
Fair comment.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife is a D.D. native
And an annoying Redskins fan to boot! No matter the score, she annoys. Just thought I’d share that nugget.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
D-D-D?
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I follow
But she still thinks Joe Gibbs is a god.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BALLGAME!
God he sucks.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kickass offense
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is a microcosm of the Skins season
How did they ever win 2 games?
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Campbell's fault that the RG got blown up.
Looked liked Campbell did a good job under pressure there and got rid of the ball as quickly as possible.
by MFAN on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Best name on the field tonight
Macho Harris for the Eagles.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm partial to Rock Cartwright
He seems like he should be a hard-boiled detective or something.
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can they just roll Campbell out more often?
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the sound of boos for the Redskins
Sweet music to the Eagles.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the epitome of bad
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagles ball
Wow.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And now he's stripped...
You still want this guy?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just find it weird
That peopel would make so many excuses for a guy who’s not even on their team. Julius Jones is one thing, but Jason Campbell? Come on. He’s 28, and he’s a decent player who probably won’t get any better. Whatever.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not the right word
Defending him constantly. What does Campbell do well?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football is not baseball.
Surrounding cast matters. Scheme matters. You can’t simply look at his numbers and call him a bag of horseapples. No disrespect to you, but I’d prefer to take John and his diligent scouting over your off-the-cuff impressions.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No disrespect taken
But John didn’t scout him, he talked about some of his stats. I don’t think many scouts would be impressed with Campbell, there’s not really much he does well. All those things matter, but you can’t use them to excuse everything. Lots of guys play in bad schemes on bad teams, you can still evaluate them. I didn’t call him a “bag of horseapples”, I don’t think he is terrible, but he doesn’t really have any strengths either.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're overblowing our expectations
or at least mine. Campbell is a decent quarterback who’s looked worse than he is and because of that he’ll be available for cheaper than he might otherwise be (or just available at all) and Seattle won’t have to spend a pick on him. He was a first round pick for a reason, he’s talented and entering his peak years so there is some potential upside.
It makes a lot of sense because the Hawks have quite a bit of talent entering their peak years and it’d be a bit of a waste to go through a rookie quarterback’s learning curve right now.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, he will bring the Sonics back with his bare hands.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That made me sad.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he will terminate Carlos Silva's contract.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will save the world from coffee and rain jokes?
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rain was soooo awesome today
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be true
And as I said earlier I think he’d be fine as a one year stopgap. I don’t think he should be a long term starter though and if you “save a draft pick” on a QB because of Campbell I think you’d be making a huge mistake. If the Falcons or Ravens passed on Ryan or Flacco because of a stopgap QB they’d be killing themselves right now.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there's a Matt Ryan in this draft, I'd burn the Space Needle to the ground to get him.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had dinner there.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was pleasant.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drafted a fantasy basketball tea this weekend
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it pleasant?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy Basketball Tea is the bomb shit
Stoud sell you that? He has the Thai hookups.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah yeah, yuck it up.
My illiteracy is just a big joke to you assholes.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But was it pleasant?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats to bad.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't want a naked dude QB'ing?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before I did
but after that one play, Jesus no!
Teams will be beating down the door to sign him.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when do we get to scout Jason Campbell?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching Skins game
while studying Perkins v. Texas & New Orleans Railway Co., a famous case about a train wreck. Coincidence?
what you do now, round eye?
by shams on Oct 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vick time
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is great
he gets cheaper by the snap. Maybe he’ll get cut.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you want cheap
We could probably get Rex Grossman for the league minimum.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They won't cut him
They have an option for a second year they probably will just decline.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great. Boondock Saints II looks like The Matrix 2.
Cult classic stripped of what made it great in favor of higher budget and no soul.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boondock Saints was awesome
Brutish, but awesome.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Campbell is playing "too hard"
He’s trying to prove himself too much and working through his progressions too quick, not letting things develop, throwing off balance, not protecting the ball and taking the tackle trying to make a play….all while the boos stream down. I think every bit of confidence he ever had is gone. He looks defeated.
by illwillbli on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He seems to be playing scared
He’s always been very conservative and holds onto the ball a long time. He doesn’t want to make any mistakes (and he doesn’t throw many picks) but he doesn’t make many plays either.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for bringing him to Seattle....
but someone is going to have to build him back up and give him a chance to redevelop his confidence. Hass would probably be a good person to work behind for a season and learn from.
by illwillbli on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
splitting time and subbing when he’s injured.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Hass be a good teacher?
He hasn’t demonstrated any ability to mentor Some athletes make good coaches and some athletes make horrible coaches. The fact that the guy is good and seems friendly has no bearing on their ability to teach another player.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly, he gets the most out of what 'little talent' he has.
Or at least that would be my argument for him if I had to make one.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Nash
One of the greatest point guards of the last decade and he couldn’t mentor a guy to be his backup to save his life.
There’s always an expectation that good players make good teachers and its simply not the case (no correlation).
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not Nash's fault that Barbosa is not a point guard.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barbosa is about the 5th guy they've tried as the backup PG
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goran Dragic
Sean Singletary, DJ Strawberry, Marcus Banks
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strawberry was traded for Singletary, who was traded to the Bobcats.
Dragic has been in the league for a year, and Banks probably isn’t very good. This isn’t compelling evidence against Nash.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of your contentions
is incompatible with my contention that the Suns have had a big need at backup PG for a long, long time and haven’t been able to fill it because Steve Nash doesn’t have magical mentoring powers.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they don't need him yet.
And Dragic is coming along nicely.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They needed a Dragic like 4 years ago
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-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they need a system that can beat a methodical and defensively intelligent team.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and a backup PG, better defense and a solid big man
They didn’t have a backup PG and lost a lot of ground when Nash sat.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your original contention is something like:
Hasselbeck isn’t a good teacher because the Hawks don’t have a great backup. You extended the argument to Nash. There is no way to prove it either way, but you can’t mentor up a player that isn’t capable at some level of filling that gap. It’s not Hass’s fault that Charlie Frye and David Greene aren’t NFL caliber QBs.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
My contention is that we have no idea how good a mentor Hass is, so its wrong to say that he is a good mentor. You would be wrong to have any expectation that Hass’s presence would be helpful (or hurtful).
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the genesis of this argument?
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How dare you impugn Chester A. Arthur
he was left a mess by that rascal Garfield.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone said
Hass would probably be a good person to work behind for a season and learn from.
I claim that there is no reasonable expectation of Hass helping (or hurting) a QB develop. I claimed that great athletes are often falsely attributed with great teaching powers. I gave Steve Nash as an example for my argument.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't count on Hass to teach a new QB
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not
but the suggestion was raised and I tried to discuss the matter.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your argument should really be,
we don’t know whether or not we can count on Hass to teach a new QB. That’s all you have proof for.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might be able to yodel (or I might not)
but I wouldn’t count on it.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate this expression because it's been overused by grandmothers and bloggers alike, but
the evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
good enough. I have as much expectation of Hass being a good mentor as I do any other starting QB with his experience.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tacos are delicious, but should be consumed at your own risk.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey what's going on all the way up here
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 26, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of rude
The discussion is related to the topic of the thread.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the point I was making.
While I do agree that my comment looks an awful lot like I usually post in response to fantasy comments, I was riffing on the fact that your argument was floating some.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't like these spaghetti comments
but I was nitpicked into a bazillion responses.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's simple
To be a good teacher at some subject you first need to be a good teacher. Your knowledge of the subject is never enough.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Jaws' insistence on saying the word "football"
What sport are we watching, Jaws?
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles are playing football
I don’t know what sport the Redskins are playing.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't anger him!
the man drops trou at the slightest provocation
what you do now, round eye?
by shams on Oct 26, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be a quarterback in the National FOOTBALL League for the New York Football Giants...
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that the old Seahawk QB
Sean Salisbury?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Salisbury had this fetish with the Panthers
And also taking pictures of his wang.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets payed every time he says
“ootball”
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*paid
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The refs just called a penalty on a guy who isn't on the roster
FAIL!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Turned it was 35 on the Eagles
Who IS on the roster, but they originally indicated a penalty on the Skins.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaws:
“Jason Campbell must show his leadership now.”
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Leavy you retard
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So my cable for some reason crapped out during Desean Jackson's big play
and so did my internet. Internet is now finally back, but cable still doesn’t work.
Campbell not looking good I take it?
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The entire team sucks
Seriously, I have no idea how they won 2 games.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their defense should be fairly good...
They have some talented players on that side of the ball.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THESE REFS SUCK!
Point the RIGHT WAY!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL killed the stream
with extreme prejudice. Put their shield up and everything.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was an obvious offsides
If ever there was one.
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by skywaker9 on Oct 26, 2009 6:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your not boooing.
You are saying HOOOOOUSH!
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time to see what faith the team has in Campbell.
First and goal inside the 5. Three straight runs?
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WE'RE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rothlisberger esque
Pump fake
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kind of deliberate with that pump.
But it was good.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TD Skins!
Hopefully they can at least keep it close…
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you consider surrounding talent and overall skills (receiving, pass blocking, etc)
Clinton Portis is probably the best running back of the decade.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's been good a long time
And his post game outfits are awesome. Westbrook may be better overall, though.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like Westbrook is constantly injured
by illwillbli on Oct 26, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portis gets nicked every year it seems too
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Running backs get nicked up. Portis doesn't miss many games.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, who else is a complete back and has played a decade at a high level?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick, knock on wood!
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall Faulk?
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He sort of splits the decade
but, yeah, Faulk is in the all-time conversation.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we talking this decade or all time kind of thing?
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This decade, still playing, I presume
LT?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say LT
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Sherm Lewis suck
at MSU?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Selling tickets?
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randle-El used to be good. Now he is just awful.
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How does Landry not get a flag?
He punched 2 people.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love when a lineman can do that.
Run em back big man.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its because they don't have a good name for it.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should go directly to ABC Family or something.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither of you have souls.
Or cougar fetishes.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Lewis can spin a yarn with the best of 'em. The story of Michael Oher is lovely.
It isn’t a feature film, however, and you can guarantee that it will be overwritten, overacted, and very Invinceable.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I've heard they've butchered the book
The focus is pretty heavily on Bullock I guess.
by Nate Dogg on Oct 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I never read the story, but it sounded cool. I suppose your probably right though.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't nearly as compelling as Moneyball.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What're we in the business of selling jeans?
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a shame that the modern struggle of sabermetricians vs. Dusty Bakerians has dragged Moneyball all over the place.
The book itself was fantastic.
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moneyball was a happy medium for me
Liar’s Poker was a bit heartless.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heartless? What part?
Just the whole, screwing clients over, doing nothing of real importance, self interested traders part?
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that
my mind connects that book with “In the Company of Men”.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saints are a fun team
I want a GM to build a Saints team. Even when the Saints lose, they are fun to watch.
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Phoenix Suns of the NFL
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
That was a TD to Moss waiting to happen. Corner got burned so badly.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Demarcus Ware is rich.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
40 Million Guaranteed!
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I was at the cafe getting food, so this is a bit delayed, but that muffed kickoff 100% on campbell
if he hadn’t thrown a TD, there wouldn’t have been a kickoff!
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
McNabb should get that out. Quarterback has to know when his back cuts a guy, that guy is getting up soon.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Both QBs suck balls tonight
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Nevermind. DeSean is standing there. WHOO!!
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by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does have a cannon
Now there is a talented QB for you.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having a great arm helps mask mistakes
And lets you make throws other guys can’t make. It surely makes a big difference.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm awaiting someone saying Jackson was so tiny he got lost out there.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He baby dicked that throw.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sick route-running
That’s what I saw in college. Huge separation on deep routes.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Too think his route running was attacked
because it’s loose. Who cares!
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is effing explosive out of cuts
0-100 almost immediately
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd and 23 and they score
What a route.
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Wow, if you have a good coach and a good QB
you have the chance of winning…
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Peyton Manning will whittle that down to just good QB.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of this game
or football?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of the Woody Paige article.
This game or This Game
by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I gotta get me one of them for my daughter!
No more birds and the bees discussion necessary!
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just get her the dool and show her this
http://videos.humpingfrog.com/14290/2006/04/when-barbie-dolls-have-rough-sex.html
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All i have to do is keep her off the pole
all i have to do is keep her off the pole
all i have to do is keep her off the pole
all i have to do is keep her off the pole
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell is sensing pressure that's not there
he is throwing off his back foot even when no one is in his face.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seneca?
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ROVER ROVER ROVER
I guess better than Omaha Omaha Omaha
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If I have to watch another Giants game where Omaha is repeated that many times...
I may just display the manning face
by illwillbli on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard at least 3 QBs yell Omaha this weekend
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Sherm Lewis coached him
I think!
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, I just saw an advert for the NFL in Toronto with the slogan
T.O. in T.O.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll be playing in Canada soon
But not with the Bills…
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO N TO A
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 26, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pass wasn't
He was under pressure though.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 man rush and he's under pressure?
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what the hell is Zorn so triumphant about?
what you do now, round eye?
by shams on Oct 26, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim Zorn celebrating
Now the Skins can lose by 27 instead of 30.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 26, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Silliest 3 minutes coming up,
HE COULD REPEAT HIS CATCH PHRASES ALL THE WAY.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fear of clowns or fear of pro wrestling?
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth, he's not a real clown.
More like a brain-damaged, narcissistic, steroid-fueled millionaire.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my humble opinion anything that resembles a clown should be burned alive.
by BrianL on Oct 26, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't that lead to a super clown
empowered with fire
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to curl up in the fetal position under my futon.
by BrianL on Oct 26, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be watching
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread is going fun new directions in
clown on punk porn.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furries are an instaban.
And if they aren’t, they should be.
by Hmph on Oct 26, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronald speaks to me.
speaks my language.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but less cartoonish
and more hungry for children.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the middle one?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Berman sucks at timekeeping.
His “2-Minute Drill” segment goes about 7 minutes.
by Hmph on Oct 26, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colts.. Best team in football or
Bestest team in football?
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Some years, certain teams or players can just do no wrong
Drew Brees this year reminds me of Man-U in 1999.
by GarethLewin on Oct 26, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they used a voting algorithm from Nobel Prize-winning economist Jed Bartlet.
what you do now, round eye?
by shams on Oct 26, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So... about Jason Campbel
Does he even know how to step into a throw? He has a strong arm for sure but seems way to content to sling it while weight on his back foot.
by farmer cam on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Skins will come back and win
you heard it here first
what you do now, round eye?
by shams on Oct 26, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like his arm and a like his short accuracy
He’s clearly spooked, but I think his fear in the pocket is fixable.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh... the vaunted fullback screen on 3rd and long
they sure Holmgren not calling plays… secretly?
by farmer cam on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
RT blew the block
he had to check down
what you do now, round eye?
by shams on Oct 26, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw blockers ahead... looked like the play
but I could be wrong
by farmer cam on Oct 26, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holmgren called FB draws
A FB screen would’ve been way too wacky for him.
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 26, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shotgun alone would've been trick play like
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Orakpo
Has he done anything this year?
It is what it is...
by kidder95 on Oct 26, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so.
But think of LoJack and Mario Williams.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, i'm thinking of them, now what?
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No production in their rookie year.
by LantermanC on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
sometimes I fail at jokes. ok, mostly.
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 26, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs