Because its never too early- Rang's first 2010 mock
by kearly on Oct 27, 2009 1:00 AM PDT
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PrintHere it is. Check out that second 1st round pick! Boo ya.
Rang normally has the pulse on Tim Ruskell's drafts. He was probably the only person on earth the called the Tatupu pick. He nailed the Lawrence Jackson pick in 2008. He called the Curry pick two weeks before it happened. He's probably correctly called other Ruskell picks as well. Why do I bring this up? Because its required that this post have 75 words! There we go.
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Rob Rang often gets the Hawks' pick right
but his draft board keeps changing until right before the draft.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
He was the first guy I read who had Jason Smith going first of the LT's...
and he had him to the Hawks at 4 before he jumped to 2nd overall. I wonder if we would have taken him if available over Curry?
Also, Rob and I used to sit in the back of 300 and 400 level English/Lit classes at CWU talking Seahawks back in the day when it wasn’t all that fun to talk about the Hawks, so I’ll always like his opinion more than Kiper/McShay.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Doubtful
Seemed like the FO had plenty of faith in either Jones coming back from surgery or Locklear successfully replacing him.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
It wasn't really a comment on Rang's relative effectiveness
its more about the futility of October draft boards. Grain of salt and all that.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Gotcha.
Just like touting a local boy done good.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think we take Mays if Locker declares.
Especially if Mora is still the head coach next year. I’m sure he will want the QB of the future from his Alma mater.
I ROCK out with my HAWK out, therefore I am....
Hey, I called Aaron Curry when we still had Peterson, so... yeah.
I saw us taking Mays and though, hm… I’m fine with that, and his explanation is good as well. A big guy like that head hunting over the middle might make Fitz, Boldin, and Crabtree leery. However, 3 of the next 4 picks are Locker, Clausen, and Okung, and all three are very intriguing. If we pass on Locker, I just hope it doesn’t turn into a Tim Lincecum situation.
I like the Charles Brown pick as well.
I don't see the justification of Mays when both Locker and Clausen are on the board (assuming they both declare)
The Spiller pick makes sense somewhat for the Niners. But that just sucks for us.
Two words: Jason Campbell
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Oct 27, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
boiled over hard
with a side of your finest jelly beans.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
by ninjasocks on Oct 27, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I guess I'll be having that milk steak to go then.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
how about Tube Steak and Manchowder for dinner?
and if your bi, you can have a slice of hairpie for desert.
I ROCK out with my HAWK out, therefore I am....
I think we had a semi-obscure Always Sunny in Philly reference...
that got lost somewhere along the way.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 29, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The man has a reputation to uphold Byron...
You cant call yourself durtee-hawk and NOT bring the goods. Additionally, in his bi-line, he has named his love muscle “Hawk” so …….
I’m leaning towards “in character” and “not so shocking”
Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.
"Clausen doesn't possess the rare physical traits of Sam Bradford"
What?
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what he means by that either,
but Bradford is an inch taller, and Clausen doesn’t have the strongest of arms?
Bradford has a weak arm too.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 27, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
It certainly isn't strong.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 27, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not a rocket, but he has deft touch and definitely a strong enough arm...
I think he threw one last year in the national championship 45 yards perfectly in stride to his TE. One of the best pass-and-catch I’ve ever seen in such a big game moment.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Same thing could be said about Brees
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Brees may not have a Favre-like arm, but it never looked weak.
His absurdly fast slingshot-release gets the ball to a target in a flash.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 27, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
And Bradfords short quick release does the same.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Bradford considered a great pro-prospect because of his physical tools or because of his Heisman season?
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 27, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Well since teams hardly ever take into account Heisman seasons.
I would say its his physical tools.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he doesn't.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Oct 28, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, I posted the response without skimming to further to see your replies.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Oct 28, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
No offense to Rang
but I don’t remember him nailing much. I remember Kentwan Balmer. I would guess if you put out dozens of mock drafts, they will match up to reality eventually, but he’s had a lot of strong feelings about players Ruskell would never select.
And just doing preliminary research for this comment
I can list Jason Smith and Darius Heyward-Bey as two names that popped up right away that were pretty out there.
by John Morgan on Oct 27, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Boy, I'm a jerk this morning
I guess I never got over having to explain why Seattle would not draft Kentwan Balmer.
by John Morgan on Oct 27, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How was Jason Smith "out there" when he ended up going 2 spots above us?
I think it is just as likely as not that he would have drafted him at 4 instead of Curry if they were both there.
(I’m not disagreeing with the analysis that mock draft experts in general, not just Rang, don’t nail much, they’re always off a bit.)
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Smith didn't fit what Ruskell does.
It’s not out there based on value, though Rang said Smith would be Ryan Clady right away and…, it’s out there based on Ruskell’s methods.
Fair enough.
This reminds me of when I argued with one of the “pro-Holmgren GM” crowd about his two greatest successes, Shaun and in particular Hutch being likely Ruskell picks as well given the same circumstances.
We can’t really prove it, but I am pretty damn sure I was right then, and you are probably right now, but we’ll never definitively know. And for the record, I do love the Curry pick. I just wish we had a better OLine TODAY as well.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Christmas Creep, baby.
TMQ writes Game Over in notebook.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 27, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
2010 NFL mock drafts are so last week
It’s all about 2011 mock drafts
by aerozeppelin on Oct 27, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jake Locker to the Vikings?
Ugh. We must prevent that from happening AT ALL COSTS. Maybe we can convince Brad Clueless Tavaris Jackson is on the verge of being great.
I have to step out, so I want to put this out there
I have a lot of respect for Rang and his NFL Draft Scout site has become the premiere source for prospect info. I wasn’t trying to rip him with my above comments, but I’ve read the Rang knows the Seahawks picks nugget bandied around here and elsewhere, and I do not remember that being the case. I especially do not think that this early in the process, a mock draft can be even remotely accurate enough to be meaningful.
I think he's pretty accurate with his final drafts
but the picks change a lot before he settles on the last one. Mock drafts are a crap shoot in general and October mock drafts don’t often resemble draft day picks. I think its also pretty probable that Ruskell has no more idea of who he’ll draft first than a list of a dozen guys he’s keeping his eye on.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Nope, honestly I think its a joke that Mock drafts are out this early
I was trying to be obvious in the sarcasm of my title. I posted it for laughs. As inaccurate as its sure to be, its fun to see what people think now compared to 6 months from now.
As far as Rang’s accuracy, I think you misunderstand. Rang has said that during the months leading up to the actual draft, he’ll often start plugging in other players in his projections so that readers will have an idea of who is on the radar. For example, last year, he had a lot of projections with Smith, Crabtree, and Sanchez. Its kind of funny that, when he projected Sanchez at #4, almost every other pundit got on the Sanchez to Seattle bandwagon within a week! Rang stayed with Sanchez for I think 9 weeks before officially picking Curry two weeks out.
Its possible that Balmer was never on Ruskell’s radar, but Balmer was just a name Rang threw out leading up to the draft, as he typically does. IIRC, Lawrence Jackson was the prediction, not Balmer, in Rang’s final 2008 mock.
Mocks are just fun, not much else.
They provide good discussion during the Bye, and they give you hope when the team is down. I find that if one does not take them seriously, they became way more fun. I’m sure there is a good example of that in pop. culture, but it’s too early for me to think of anything. Pro Wrestling? Olympic Figure Skating?
fun to whom?
the people crating the mocks or the people who read them?
Way too early for a Mock draft but oh well.
I ROCK out with my HAWK out, therefore I am....
I'm going to admit that I don't watch college football, nor do I know anything about college players
but I caught part of the Virginia Tech-Georgia Tech game a couple of weeks ago. Did anybody else see Tyrod Taylor’s hail-mary into the endzone at the end of the first half? No joke, the guy threw the ball 70 yards in the air, and it didn’t have too much loft to it. It looked like a regular deep ball.
Unbelievable arm strength.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
Isaiah Stanback could do that.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 28, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Jamarcus Russel could throw it from the 1 into the stands.
While meaning to throw a 5 yard checkdown.
That's a given
Because being on the other 1 yard line means that they actually gained yards.
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Oct 28, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Nnamdi has stone hands.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 28, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahh, but which is more likely...
Jamarcus Russel moving the Offense or Nnamdi intercepting a pass?
by DJ C-Raig on Oct 28, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's why no one ever passes to him
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Just Philip Rivers when Vincent Jackson readily makes Asomugha his personal senorita on every snap.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 30, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that I would be pissed if Seattle chose Taylor Mays
if Colt McCoy was still on the board.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
Or even if CJ Spiller was up there..
But I would be fucking ecstatic if the Seahawks landed Trent Williams.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Oct 28, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I want C.J Spiller so bad! (no homo)
I’m probably in the minority on this one, but I also really like Jonathan Dwyer. The chances of the Hawks getting Dwyer probably aren’t that great, but I still think he is going to be a pretty good back in the NFL.
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Oct 29, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Eww, Colt McCoy?
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Colt McCoy is overrated.
probably more so than Tim Teebow. I don’t like either one of them that much.
I ROCK out with my HAWK out, therefore I am....
We don't need no stinkin first-round QB
We got the smartest man from New Jersey!
And all the land was in ruin, and burnination had forsaken the countryside.
In order to completely believe this
we would have needed to see more Teel and less Wallace this season.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
They forgot El-ahrairah, for what use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?
by Wayward Llama on Oct 31, 2009 3:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I was partly sarcastic there...
But personally I had fun watching Teel in the preseason. Not used to a Seattle QB gunning it in there so often. Would love to see more of him.
And all the land was in ruin, and burnination had forsaken the countryside.
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