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Virginia Tech at North Carolina - Game Thread: Scouting Kam Chancellor, Sergio Render, Cam Thomas, Etc

It's Thursday and that means Field Gulls long football weekend begins. Tonight's North Carolina at Virginia Tech matchup lacks the preeminent talent that last week's Florida State game had, but both teams have talent that could contribute to the Seahawks future. Here's a brief rundown and then we'll turn this post into a game thread.

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Kam Chancellor: I was pondering Taylor Mays yesterday. Mays shows up poorly in game film. His tendency to bring the boom but forget the brain has earned comparisons to Roy Williams. Williams was a feared run defender in his time. He was a sideline to sideline force in the box that could break down on a rusher in space and bullet backs into the turf. Ideally, Mays could be that, but not around the line like Williams, but twenty yards deep, and not blowing up rushers, but breaking up passes by blowing up receivers.

The Taylor Mays-Eric Berry dilemma ignores an important fact: Tim Ruskell has always built his safeties through developing late round picks. It isn't set in stone, but has been consistent. Jordan Babineaux is the latest, but he looks temporary. Chancellor is a hulking free safety that could be Mays lite. He is 6'4", 230 and benched 355 as a freshman. Seattle seems intent on running a cover one and keeping Deon Grant in the box. A player that could sweep the deep middle and punish receivers who challenge him would be an asset. Chancellor must first improve his cover instincts and quickness to the ball carrier. If he shows something in the next few weeks, don't be surprised if Seattle drafts him and develops him on the roster for future employment.

Ed Wang and Sergio Render: Two tech linemen that could play guard for Seattle. Wang is a slight tackle that used to be a tight end. Render is a preseason All-ACC recipient that was once considered among the best guard prospects in college football.

Jason Worilds: He isn't likely part of this coming class, but the junior end fits the Ruskell mold and is worth watching. Worlids is short but powerful.

NC

Cam Thomas: Seattle has added Colin Cole and Red Bryant, but if it intends to get keep getting bigger in the middle, allowing its ends and linebacker to run free, it should upgrade Cole and ensure against Bryant never developing. Thomas is 6'3", 330 space eater that can create a little rush. That makes him like a younger Cole, but with better upside.

 

The Tar Heels are little younger than the Hokies and have fewer pro prospects, but make sure to check out their linebackers. One could replace Leroy Hill someday soon. Credit to NFL Draft Scout for much of the above information. It's a peerless resource.

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Tyrod Taylor. Not sure if anyone wants him, but he’s playing too.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like that football coaches stick around forever

A lifetime of football. I think I might coach one day.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

does Dre need the cash or does he just like Dr. Pepper?

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He probably just can't get enough money

Seems like people that grew up broke as fuck have less “pride” when it comes to how they get paid.

by DJ C-Raig on Oct 29, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I grew up pretty close to broke as fuck

and I have horrible anxiety about how I make my money.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now if I really liked Dr. Pepper

I would have no hang ups doing an add for them. Allagash wants me to pimp their Tripel – by all means, pay me to endorse your product.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also grew up pretty fuck-broke.

I would make money off Doc Pep. The thing is, Pepper probably has a PHD in soda, and that isn’t even a real doctor, so fuck that noise.

Once I was as rich as Dre is, I imagine I would be more discriminate.

by DJ C-Raig on Oct 29, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Allagash Tripel, huh?

Have to check it out. I love their White Ale, but it’s the only one I’ve tried from them so far.

by thebyron on Oct 29, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good block by Render

but NC overloaded that side.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Worilds is 6

played LDE that play.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Because Tyrod Taylor is fantastic to them.

He’s better than the woeful Sean Glennon but man he’s got some work to do.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arizona Cards may get blacked out

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12440668

They have a great shot at going 12-4 or 11-5 and they are having ticket troubles. Guess it’s partially the rough economy and a small fanbase.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wang got beat.

Taylor running around like a crazy man.

by MFAN on Oct 29, 2009 5:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Face it VT

Taylor is PA quarterback. Until you establish the run, your offense will sputter.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 5:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chance with the tackle on the reverse

And then they run an end-around and get the first down.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The moment Little was motioned into the backfield I knew they would run

Nice play.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NC looks like it's going to win this

even though VT started the game breaking off big run after big run.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 5:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was pretty shameless by Berman.

Things have changed since I had ESPN.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 5:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching CBC News

Casey Printers is sucking at QB for the BC Lions in the CFL. He makes decisions Seneca would make.

Lovely touch pass and great catch by Jeremy Boyd for the TD for the Tar Heels.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes or no.

Yates is a better quarterback prospect than Taylor.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goodness Taylor. That was so dumb.

Is it a coverage sack or a stupidity sack?

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rabble rabble everyone's a bust rabble

What happened to Render

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 29, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no i mean why isn't he considerd a top guard prospect anymore

did he get dominated by someone like tonga tea in an important game

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 29, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

really

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 29, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha okay

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 29, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job Taylor.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no. No.

Not the Dr. Lou segment. No.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it turns out that I hate Oregon.

And am tired of them copying Oregon State. We have Moevao, they get Masoli (who is Moevao but more athletic). We have James Rodgers, they get this Carmichael mother fucker. It’s annoying. Can Masoli do this!?

by DJ C-Raig on Oct 29, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching this Ali vs. Holmes doc on ESPN2 is so sad

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Made my sandwich just in time

Sandwich is truly a great invention of man.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's the beauty

Sandwich ranks among pizza for top food innovations.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More portable, more versatile. Hot, cold, grilled, etc.

For me, it doesn’t get much better than fresh mozzarella, tomato, olive oil, salt, pepper on ciabatta.

by abender20 on Oct 29, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just avoid Quizno's for sandwiches

You can’t go wrong with grilled ham and cheese though.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dad lived in New York for many years

He’s dying for a big pastrami sandwich on rye with a pickle on the side.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a cheap Vietnamese sandwich shop I eat at every now and then

Always get a Pork Sandwich with jalapenos and cilantro on the side. Holy crap do they have spicy jalapenos.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you know that pizza is actually an open-faced sandwich?

The more you know…

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 29, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taylor = Reggie Ball

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that's a fumble.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Taylor's receivers even run routes

or just run around and hope Taylor sees them.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dave Sims is doing play-by-play

For the UFL game.

Quinn Gray for MVP!

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey nice job running the ball.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey gang. watching the WS but stopped by to say hi...

and, anybody we gotta have in blue this August?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Oct 29, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh.

Render is good. I like the NC linebackers.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesse Palmer what an idiot.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't.

it’s one of those stories that old enough that they don’t tell it much anymore. It’s easy not to know. (I know a ton of Va Tech people.)

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Oct 29, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's a bootleg. Whatever it was it barely worked.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

fireworks guys got into the grass again.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lot of feet talk.

Is that the vogue body part in broadcasting school?

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you ref

for being smarter than Mr. Little.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Oct 29, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Before he's done

Williams could be Jim Brown merged with zombie Walter Peyton to form a four-armed, untacklable mutorusher.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 6:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure

don’t run. Christ.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's worth saying...

Pedro is DEALING tonight in the Bronx.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Oct 29, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And on cue he gives up a HR

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on a 1-2 curveball that damn-near bounced to the plate

I kinda had that one coming I suppose. ;)

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Oct 29, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm...yeah.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap nice cutback by Williams

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Let's break it down."

Yes, let us Chris Berman.

However, I could totally see Berman grubbing on their ribs. I used to love Applebee’s ribs.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I could seem some standards

He plays it everyguy, but he’s driven and ambitious. However, Applebee’s seems about right. Panda Express, eh…

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You see the video where he goes apeshit on the help?

I think the big, goofy, fun loving guy is only a shtick.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no question, he's a first class dick.

But can you really see him ordering the filet of sole?

by abender20 on Oct 29, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

I can see Chris Berman, gourmand.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Berman walks into a fancy restaurant. Waiter recites the specials. There's a duck confit.

Berman shouts “Shut it with the gay French talk and bring me a fucking ribeye.”

by abender20 on Oct 29, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rich, unworthy men have great pretenses.

He wants the rib eye, but he wants to know the cow’s name too.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell where you watching?

I was watching a girl about date rape and it being wrong… I did not know it was wrong..

by Fudwamper on Oct 29, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This

makes no sense to me. I am confused.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Sounders!

They’re on ESPN 2.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 7:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thinking out loud

2:5x to go. 6? to the first. and within the 10. Shouldn’t they have gone for it?

You get it, you probably win.

You don’t, the other team starts pinned within their ten.

At worst, you get the ball back with good field position. Well, at worst, you lose because the other team drives down the field, but that isn’t likely.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim Hiller is very smart.

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How did UNC get it back?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Oct 29, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus

Beamer lost. Always fun.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hate?

College overtime?

by abender20 on Oct 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's an abomination

It’s not even football.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't find it entertaining

It removes the big play, makes the drive meaningless and decides the game in a way that accentuates completely different skills than it took to reach overtime.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

the chance of double and triple overtime.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm biased.

The second home game I ever attended at school was against OSU and we took em down in college overtime. Things just build to a feverpitch until someone a team decides to da la estocada

by abender20 on Oct 29, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guy looks a little Marion like

but not nearly the first gear.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

UPSET!

Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.

by SSreporters on Oct 29, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Better coach won

Tech kept them in it by moronically attempting to establish the pass.

by John Morgan on Oct 29, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

playoffs?

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Oct 29, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs


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