Seahawks Have 37 in 100 Chance of Winning
by John Morgan on Nov 14, 2009 11:59 AM PST
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Prime numbers do not make for good headline writing, I guess. Brian Burke projects Seattle as underdogs, but not decided underdogs on the road against Arizona. Seattle is as healthy as it's been in two seasons. Arizona is not.
It's not fashionable to rip Steve Vallos after he proved himself an able backup center, but DEAR GOD did you see how awful he was in week 6? With Seattle trailing after a bit-o' Arizona chicanery matched with Bruce Dehaven Dehavenry (a quantifiable seven point swing), Vallos single-handedly put the Cardinals on the Seattle 23 after Calais Campbell tore threw him for an instantaneous sack and forced fumble on Matt Hasselbeck. In football, points are only part of understanding who will win. Possession and field position have real, but intangible value. Seattle had three plays, the last ending in a fumble, to the Cardinals three possessions. That ended the game before it could start.
Arizona only scored ten points after that ruinous start for the Seahawks. The Seahawks were not blown out. They were ambushed. Any and every coach that is not 1000% prepared tomorrow, should update their resume. Feel free to call me a homer, but in light of the Seahawks health and the Cardinals injuries, Seattle has the talent advantage. They can win tomorrow. They will win tomorrow.
SEA!
HAWKS!
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Hawks are underdogs this time, for real.
Week 6 Hawks were picked to win over the Cards by all but one of ESPN’s “experts”. This time ESPN’s experts (and Sunday Countdown) are unanimously picking the Cards. Hawks lost 27-3 in week 6, picked up 0 of 11 third down conversions, got 14 yds rushing and 112 yds passing (plus a 42 yd pass on a fake punt by Ryan).
What I’m wondering is if the Cards will play with the roof open or closed?
by 008klm on Nov 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fair prediction from Burke
I am most definitely looking forward to playing AZ with a relatively healthy offensive line. The first week that we actually have our starting offensive line (minus Walter Jones). Really interesting to see how it plays out.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Nov 14, 2009 12:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are right
But I think the hawks will lose because THEY do not believe they will win. And they suck on the road, no matter their beliefs.
by Hawkdawg on Nov 14, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly why we CAN win.
Because our team MAY still believe in themselves more than you believe in them. Because they may still believe in themselves more than the Cardinals believe in themselves. Because they are mad. Because they have been embarrassed. Because some of their best players are healthy again. Because Trufant can frustrate guys like Fitzgerald and Boldin. Because Josh Wilson is hungry for interceptions. Because Tapp just wants to hit a QB.
Because they are mad as hell and won’t take it anymore. That’s why they can win.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
by Stevo's on Nov 14, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Homer
If life gives you lemons, keep the receipt
by Bramlet A. on Nov 14, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We can win tommorow
We can definitely win. We just need to stay patient and execute on first and second downs. That’s it. The more our defense is off the field we have a better chance of winning. Last time we played the Cards was no excuse and I think they’ve learned from that loss. Plus we got everyone healthy this week so it should be a good game.
by Seahawksfan23 on Nov 14, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
John is channeling his inner Nate Burleson.
Get get ’er done guys`
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Nov 14, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Our pass-rush having a positive effect on the secondary's ability to cover is the #1 key in my book.
And vice versa. We have to knock Warner around (if not out), or he’ll tear up mismatches in the secondary. If Boldin, Breason, and of course Fitz are all playing, they can even go to promising young Doucet. Their passing offense scares me the most. I think our run defense will hold up against them fine.
We certainly have a chance. I hope it’s a good game. I hope Burly runs a punt back. We’ll need a big-play spark somehow.
by Misfit74 on Nov 14, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
HAWKS!
Nuff said!
"The Seahawks are old but they are healthy. The Seahawks are young but they are desperate. Let's go kick the Cards in the mouth" - John Morgan
by NW_BRED on Nov 14, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why do you keep blaming Bruce Dehaven?
John Owen ran forward instead of staying put and fielding the pooch kickoff in the AZ game. Owen blew the play. Mora later said that Dehaven had his Teams players practicing short kickoffs on the friday practice before the game. DeHaven was anticipating this play. Despite this, Owen screwed up and failed to field the ball. How is that Bruce DeHaven’s fault? Sounds to me like the coach did his job and the dumb player screwed up the play.
Sometimes its ok to not blame a coach or GM for what happens on the field.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
by Stevo's on Nov 14, 2009 2:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't an upfield player
Just soccer kick a short sideline kick outta bounds?
by 008klm on Nov 14, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's too big of a gap in the middle of the field to begin with.
Last time I checked we’re dead last in punt return yards allowed. Outside of the Detroit game our return game is terrible and we’re giving up big kick and punt returns.
He has done nothing right since he got here.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree though that it isn't DeHaven's fault
Have you ever considered that it’s sometimes the players fault not the coach? The player is the one that does all physical stuff while the coach calls the play are aligns this guy to do that. For instance Greg Knapp could call a good play but when they run the play it can get ruined because a player didn’t do this or that right. DeHaven is a fantastic coach and it’s mostly the players fault in my opinion.
by Seahawksfan23 on Nov 14, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing that might be getting overlooked,
is that there was a major rule change this year on how return teams can block. They banned the wedge, and the Seahawks were one of the few teams still using that style. It might be that he just needs some time to adapt to the rule change. Or it might be that he can’t adabt and we need to get someone new in there. Either way, he’s been around long enough that he probably deserves at least one season to figure it out, if he can’t after one year, then maybe we need someone new.
by Mind of no mind on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The special teams UNIT sucks, not the coach.
No one complained about DeHaven when it was Burleson returning punts.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Nov 14, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
I know I’ve been lamenting DeHaven’s work since he was hired.
by Fear on Nov 14, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think DeHaven has done much...
but I also don’t think he deserves the blame for the play against AZ. Owen screwed up that play.
Remember back before DeHaven, Holmy had Pete Rodriguez, and everyone blamed him too. But hell, players have to make plays. For those who don’t remember, Dehaven used to coach special teams for my team back home, the Buffalo Bills. DeHaven coached some of the best special teams play ever seen, for the Bills teams that went to four Super Bowls in a row! He coached pro bowl special teamers like Steve Tasker, Don Beebe, Mark Pike, and then in San Francisco guys like Jimmy Williams and Vinny Sutherland.
DeHaven had players that were well coached for many years on several different teams. So I’m not so sure our weak special teams are all his fault.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
by Stevo's on Nov 14, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo.
sigh
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
They forgot El-ahrairah, for what use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?
by Wayward Llama on Nov 15, 2009 4:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also didn't think the first Cards game was that big a blowout.
We were just behind the 8 ball (sorry, awful cliche) so bloody early.
Yes, having Vallos in there against that active defensive line of the Cards’ is just too high a hill to climb (doubly awful cliche).
by djafrot on Nov 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Both the Cardinals and the Colts were pretty lucky facing Steve Vallos and Kyle WIlliams.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
They forgot El-ahrairah, for what use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?
by Wayward Llama on Nov 15, 2009 4:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of special teams
Don’t you guys think that Jon Ryan is having a good year? I understand that he mostly overpunts it a lot and he isn’t very accurate inside the 20 yard line but he seems like having a good year.
by Seahawksfan23 on Nov 14, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think hes bad.
I think his overall punting average makes him overrated by the mainstream media, but I think he’s alright.
SEA!
by MFAN on Nov 14, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah definitely
Punting average has made punters look way too good. It always depends on the In 20 or 10 stats. I just don’t get why a lot of people bash on Jon Ryan cuz he’s been doing a good job for us. And besides when you have to punt at your own 5, you obviously want a punter with a booming leg so it’s not entirely overrated I guess.
by Seahawksfan23 on Nov 14, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things:
When he was first picked up, he was constantly booming kicks but they were low, so the coverage unit never had time to get to the return man. This led to large return yards. Second, he had a serious tendency to launch kicks into the end zone. He could be standing on their 40 and would still send it into the end zone, he couldn’t pin anything inside the 20 to save his life.
However, I’ve been noticing a lot less of this lately, and a lot more punts inside the 20. I’m hoping he may have improved a lot, and people are just used to deriding him and havn’t adjusted yet. But I’d have to take an in depth look at his punts to really know for sure.
by Fear on Nov 14, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's good according to one metric, and that metric is silly.
by BrianL on Nov 14, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even JM said in an earlier post this week that he may have been wrong about Ryan.
Honestly, being at the games, I haven’t had anything to complain about. He was our best offensive player the last time we played the Cards….
by BrettJMiller on Nov 15, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, I liked Plackimeir's line drives and bottle rocket pop ups.
Nothing beats how epic a line drive punt looks in person. On tv, I’d rather have Ryan though since I can’t appreciate the pure chaos those punts created.
by Krazyleggs on Nov 15, 2009 2:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Man I really hope Gandy doesn't go..
Okeafo doubtful is nice..
According to nfl.com dept chart the backup for Gandy is a rookie late 5th round pick Guard named Herman Johnson, listed at 382 lbs… can you say edge rush???
Ruskell has gotten a lot of flak for not carrying 47 O-lineman this year on the roster, but how many tackle injuries can you plan for? What difference would keeping Kyle Williams (the best tackle we had from camp) on the roster when he was signable from the PS later anyways (ie no one wanted him)… plus he has been outplayed by a street FA anyways so why waste the roster spot? I don’t think you can plan for being down three tackles and a guard all at once… The cards haven’t had to worry about such matters for some time. As I have been saying a lot lately (I am very spiteful), the cards have seldom had to deal with any injuries at all their last 2 seasons (coincidently, also their run of success).
I am excited to see our real O-line, secondary, D-line, Skill players, QB, all at once… I am even happy to have two of our three star LB’s and suprisingly unconcerned about Hawthorne over Tatupu..
by michaelfox99 on Nov 15, 2009 5:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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