The Official Fantasy Football Thread – Week 10.
The place for fantasy talk, thought, questions and general fantasy ranting.
This is a new concept to be put out weekly. This week being new, it is coming later than ideal due to the late thought of creating it.
Here at Field Gulls we’ve had discussions on just about every aspect of football, including having discussions about when we can or should have discussions about Fantasy. Well, this IS the place. You can, if you must, add fantasy talk in additional game threads, but be warned, someone may be watching, and they may be mocking. Here, you have free rein to talk your team’s reign or your rain of injuries.
Something to note, and this should be a true football fan’s golden ticket when it comes to heaven and hell and the voiding of the warranty on your soul.
The first rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against your favorite team.
The second rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against your favorite team.
Never NEVER EVER cheer against the Seahawks due to your fantasy roster. My personal rule is to avoid as much as possible acquiring division rivals, or to avoid playing them against the Seahawks if reasonably possible. Statements like, "Well, at least I have Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team" (if) he was scorching the Hawks will unleash the hounds of hell upon you. Avoid playing those guys. I have Boldin in one league, Beanie in another. Both will be sitting this week on principle. I suggest, STRONGLY, that you do the same. But if you don’t, please don’t be that one bastard playing the "Don’t Come" line at the craps table. Not only will you bring bad mojo to everybody, but you’ll likely get verbally harassed, if not banned. You’re a Seahawk fan, you aren’t "that guy" you are one of OUR guys—act like it!
Weeks 8-10 are the “Moving Weeks” of fantasy football.
If you don’t know what your team looks like at this point, you probably never will. If you are out of it now in a keeper league, time to start trading for next year, and if you’re in it time to become a buyer, selling your team’s future soul for a chance at a trophy right here right now. In playoff leagues, teams are jockeying for position and starting to look at matchups for those playoff weeks while thinking of trades. Heroes, and goats, are created right here and now.
These are grave times we live in friends, and a fantasy championship cannot be achieved for anyone without the absolute fullest of dedication, a commitment to excellence in waiver wire scouring, and a steady hand when making the big trade, and of course, a great deal of luck.
By now, studs and frauds have been discovered or discarded. Yes, Mike Sims-Walker is a viable option and near must-start. No, nobody knows what the hell happened to Jay Cutler OR Matt Forte. And, of course, the one owner in your league holding out for Beanie Wells to “put it together” is just gonna have to wait at least one more week. Oh, and Steve Slayton, I’m talking to you. STOP FUMBLING!!!! I need your production, dammit. On top of that, some asshat picked Moats off the waiver wire by iphone before I could get to a computer. Kurt Warner? START FUMBLING!!! You’ve looked just a little too good so far, and if the Hawks are gonna make a serious run, Natty Matty Beer Bong needs to get on the field and help the Hawk cause.
Personally, I have two leagues I “care about” due to actual money being involved, and one that is all about the pride, in the NFC of the FieldGulls Invitation League. The interesting thing about these three leagues is that I’ve never seen fantasy leagues so wide open. I want to hear from you on this, because I don’t know if this is just my leagues, or all leagues, but there are a lot of teams still in it.
In my keeper league, 7 of the 10 teams are within two games of first place. This has completely restricted trades, as nobody can decide if they are a buyer or a seller, and the three teams out of it are so gawd awful, about the only thing they can provide is a blueprint for what NOT to do when rebuilding a team. I’m surprised none of them have changed their team name to “Mangini’s Weinies.”
In my yahoo league, one team is 7-2, two are 3-6, and the rest are all either 5-4 or 4-5. Six teams get into the playoffs, so not a single team is out of that league. And in the NFC, there are eight teams in it and four teams making plans to watch the college basketball. If they’re making plans to watch the NBA, may they join David Stern in the afterlife.
A couple notes from my league matchups.
The Marv Albert “YESSSSSSS!” Star of the Week: Drew Brees vs. St. Louis.
Too bad it’s the other guy’s QB. Sigh.
The Anakin Skywalker “NOOOOoooooOOOO!” Sit of the Week: Jay Cutler.
I know, I’m cheating. But this was also the guy I went against, and he sat Forte to play Cutler. I’m now ahead Zero to -8, and haven’t used up any players yet. Gotta love it!
The "You're Crazy Man" Start of the Week: Devery Henderson vs. St. Louis.
He’s a big play guy playing a weak pass defense in a game that should get out of hand pretty early. Look for something like 4-115 with 1 TD. Considering I have Andre Johnson and NYG Steve Smith on the bench, I’ll take any WR help I can get this week.
So here it is all. A thread for fantasy talk. Have at it, this is open season on all things fantasy football related. And no, Erin Andrews does not count as football related.
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general question
where is a good site to go for FFB beginners to get stats or other info?
by paul2 on Nov 14, 2009 2:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, all your major sites now have basic fantasy information.
SI.com, espn.com, cbssportsline.com all include “fantasy” as a linkable section. I’d suggest reading up as you learn. There is no one site, one perfect scenario. They all are guessing just like we are.
A couple other things I do is sign up for email newsletters now and then. I don’t go to the sites much during the season as I’m pretty tapped into what’s out there already. Here are a couple newsletters I get and haven’t yet sent to spam even if I don’t read them every week.
I signed up for one at ESPN.com It’s solid, looks nice, and generally details two or three players or debates per week.
At http://footballguys.com/ I signed up for Joe Bryant’s newsletter, and I enjoy reading his stuff. Much more plain jane, but chalk full of information.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 14, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fanyasy Sharks
http://www.fantasysharks.com/index.php
is another good source of info and stats.
by klydefrog on Nov 15, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind playing Cards/Niners/whoever.
If the Hawks shut ‘em down, then that’s good. If the Hawks can’t and lose, then it helps my team. Much prefer the first, obviously. Real football always takes precedence for me, but I’m not going to sit Fitz.
There ain't no turning back when our train is off its track, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash (watch it crash)
And there ain't no right and wrong when we know it won't be long, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash
-Tomas Kalnoky/Streetlight Manifesto, Watch It Crash
by kentcheesehead on Nov 14, 2009 3:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fitz is an interesting case.
Obviously you don’t sit him, he’s too damn good.
However, in this case here’s the question— did you HAVE to draft him? Could you have gone with Moss or Andre Johnson in the same draft slot. Andre in particular has been monstrous the last couple years and you can make a genuine argument for putting him ahead of Fitz, AND avoiding the debate of knowing you have a guy who will play twice a year in divisional matchups against the hawks.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 14, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I took Fitz and Megatron with the 9th and 12th picks.
I just don’t care that much. Those two worlds (nfl and fantasy) just don’t seem to collide for me. Apparently I’m in the minority here, but I really only consider the team a player plays for when considering the QB, line, etc.
There ain't no turning back when our train is off its track, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash (watch it crash)
And there ain't no right and wrong when we know it won't be long, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash
-Tomas Kalnoky/Streetlight Manifesto, Watch It Crash
by kentcheesehead on Nov 14, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Meant Fitz and Andre.
I must be a bad GM.
There ain't no turning back when our train is off its track, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash (watch it crash)
And there ain't no right and wrong when we know it won't be long, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash
-Tomas Kalnoky/Streetlight Manifesto, Watch It Crash
by kentcheesehead on Nov 14, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Should I start Mike Bell or Felix Jones?
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is who I'm up against (5-4 vs. 5-4)
http://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/showMatchup.do?leagueId=82881&fantasyGameId=11145176&scrH=456
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd probably lean Bell.
While his carries were down last week, the Saints weren’t ahead therefor had fewer running plays. Against St.Louis however, I’d expect all three backs to get more than their fair share of touches.
I have Felix in a league and I haven’t been able to play him productively yet this year. It’s also doubtful they get out far ahead of GB where the carries would get spread beyond just Marion.
I would also think about going with Rice above Holmes, as Rice has been surging and is against Detroit, compared to playing Cincy, who had proven to be much better defensively than anyone would have guessed.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 14, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I planned that move since yesterday but I'm too lazy to set my lineup
Unfortunately the trade deadline ended 2 weeks ago and I traded Moss for McNabb. You suck McNabb.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Burleson or Harvin
Burleson Pros:
Seattle will live or die by the pass
Burleson has been the most consistant target
Carlson will likely block more giving the WR’s more looks
Burleson Cons:
He didn’t do much last time around at home against the Cards
Housh wants the ball
Carlson is still a legit option
Harvin Pros:
Detroit won’t be able to keep up with him
If the Hawks dominated the Lions through the air, so will the Vikings
Harvin Cons:
He’s the third option behind Peterson and Rice
The Vikings may not need to pass that much
Points in my ffl league are yardage and td’s only – not ppr.
Your thoughts on each?
by brianinptown on Nov 14, 2009 3:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I see Favre throwing to Rice a lot
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see them needing to throw very much.
Are we not talking about the Lions? Peterson might even give way to Chester Taylor in this one. Steamroll the Lions they will. The MIN DEF/ST will be a good play if you have them.
by Misfit74 on Nov 14, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the weakness of the Lions as an opponent breaks the tie. Harvin
Obviously, you root for Burleson to prove you wrong, but it seems the safer bet.
by Dedalusson on Nov 14, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about return yardage and td's?
If your league gives them to the D that hurts Harvin, they give the to player, he can score up a little more.
I’d probably lean Nate this week, but mainly because I WANT him to do well. That of course isn’t the best fantasy perspective…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 14, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yardage only counts for reception yardage
I think I will go with Nate. It’s pretty close, and it will give me even more reason to watch the game regardless of the score…nothing like rooting for your ffl player that is on your nfl team as well…it’s just that I can see the Vikes using Harvin in all sorts of crazy situations.
by brianinptown on Nov 14, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am so glad you guys opened up a fantasy forum
I read Field Goals religiously, but I typically don’t comment much: truth be told, I don’t think I’m smart enough in real football terms.
So in my fantasy league, I have been limping with AP/Schaub/Dallas Clark which has pretty much kept me in first at 7-2 regardless of who else I play. My WRs have been a hodge podge of waiver acquitions this whole season. Miles Austin and Sim-Walker have finally solidified my top spots, but this week I’m struggling to pick between Brandon Marshall, Panther Steve Smith (or “the other Steve Smith” as he has impossibly become known), or Braylon Edwards.
Who would you start?
by Dedalusson on Nov 14, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Field Goals?
You got the name wrong boy!
BANNED!
Might as well start Braylon Edwards. Jags’ secondary sucks ass and they have Brian Russell there.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah man. Of course I prove myself a rookie idiot. My apologies
by Dedalusson on Nov 14, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah it's okay. Just teasing you dalburleson.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 14, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Feels good to be clever dont it?
Smile, you’re that clever guy today. It’s gonna be a good day now, all day long.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Nov 14, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd probably lean Brandon Marshall most weeks.
But the Jags D is pretty suspect. Might as well try to hit on one of Braylon’s occasional big weeks.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 14, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All three are decent options in my mind.
I’d probably go with Steve Smith, on the chance that Delhomme stops sucking. Falcons have some holes in their secondary.
by thebyron on Nov 15, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In my defense
Im only playing Kurt Warner this week because my opponent is playing Fitzgerald AND Boldin and I’m using Warner to counter every TD they might manage to score.
Just so we’re clear
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Nov 14, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And hopefully you cancel eachother out with 0 point apiece.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 14, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Moral FF question ahead...
In a keeper leauge G.M. A drops Michael Turnner (a keeper from last season) 4 weeks into the season. G.M B picks him up off of waivers only to receive a call from the commissioner stating that the drop was accidental and G.M A had made a mistake. G.M B accepts this to be true as G.M A is a dipshit in real life. G.M B and G.M A workout a trade that send Turner back and he receives a RB no where comprable to Turner. The following week GM A and the commissioner agree to a trade that sends Turner to the comish’s team for a 2nd tier RB….Now that GM B is out of contention, is it morally wrong to trade 2 of his top 3 players to a freind in the league?
Sorry for the long windedness but as GM B, I am still pissed about this
by HawkedUp on Nov 14, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of it being moral
Its a real douche move
by illwillbli on Nov 14, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How does this even happen?
All trades should be veto-able and if anyone does this in a league I’m in, I’m never playing with them again, not much of a threat though since I don’t really pay attention to fantasy anymore unless I have money in it.
by LantermanC on Nov 14, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If this is a keeper league, and your team is out of contention,
you should drop every player that you don’t plan on keeping, or inundate the Commish with bogus trade offers like Selvin Young and Cleo Lemon for Randy Moss. It won’t make a difference, but it’ll let the Commish know what you think of him. And if it’s a money league, you can give the impression that you are playing next year, but when the draft comes, skip out, don’t pay dues, and don’t respond to emails/phone calls. Sure, you’d lose a friend, but this is fantasy football. You have to stand for something.
by mkries on Nov 14, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a keeper, $100 buy-in.
Just real lame how it went down. I decided to send a few bogus trades to my friend with no intention of actually making them, just so the league got the message. No harm, no foul. I won’t be playing next year with them though. Thanks for the responses
by HawkedUp on Nov 15, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks dude.
I don’t know about two wrongs making a right though. I’d definitely be calling for the commish’s head if I were in your spot….
by thebyron on Nov 15, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally unprofessional as commish.
If you are out of it, I suggest dropping EVERY SINGLE PLAYER as protest, or cutting everyone that isn’t on the non-cut list, and matching up with absolutely your worst possible lineup every week.
Not to mention, publicly calling out the commish for being irresponsible and unethical, as well as calling for his head. Dude shouldn’t be a commish if he makes moves like that, period.
My keeper league has Co-GM’s for the record and between them and the other responsible members, we make sure crap like that doesn’t happen.
I’m… seriously shocked how lame that is.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 15, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who do I play, Devery Henderson... or Anquan Boldin?
My other starting receiver is Megatron
by Ovreel on Nov 14, 2009 5:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If you think the rest of your team is better, I'd go Boldin.
If you think you’re the underdog this week, Henderson might be a nice play. He’s gonna have a 150-200 yard game in that offense sooner or later. If you need a miracle, I’d lean towards Henderson.
Granted, my team is 3-6, so take my advice for what it’s worth.
by mkries on Nov 14, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Addai or Ricky Williams?
D Brown I back this week so Addai is still #1 but splitting time against a respectable D (NE), and Williams is at the #30 rushing defense (TB) as the #2 RB.
by swamp_fox on Nov 14, 2009 5:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Williams.
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 14, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I started Alex Smith.
He was outscored by Cutler in my league. By the way, what kind of league gives 6 points for passing TDs, only -2 for picks, and randomly gives out 5 points for going over 100 yards rushing and 300 yards passing? And what kind of tiebreaker is “most bench points scored”?
I’m sorry, I realize no one cares about my fantasy team, but the lesson here is to read the freakin’ rules before the draft in a money league. And not only that, but I’ve had more points scored against me than the #1 team in the league has scored themselves.
Fantasy football is so damn arbitrary. Talent is the least important aspect of being a solid fantasy player.
/soapbox
by mkries on Nov 14, 2009 10:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I started Smith too.
Schaub’s on bye and I needed a fill-in; I figured against the Bears’ secondary he’d do alright. Screwed me over pretty good.
by thebyron on Nov 15, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's a bunch of fans over at NinerNation that would share similar sentiment...
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 15, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Houshmandzadeh or Burleson?
I have both, and deciding on which one to start has been driving me crazy/pissing me off.
by DetectiveM on Nov 15, 2009 1:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Both
You can live and die by the hawks. :)
Although this week, I’d go Hoosh.
by Dedalusson on Nov 15, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2 of the 4:
Dwayne Bowe, Greg Jennings, Steve Smith and Reggie Bush. Non-PPR league, standard rules. I’m leaning Jennings and Smith because Bowe will have Asomugha covering him and NO’s backfield is committee….
by thebyron on Nov 15, 2009 8:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Can't argue the logic.
I’ve got Jennings in a money league and am still waiting for him to wake up this season.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 15, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are gonna sit Fitzgerald against Seattle..
Why play fantasy?
I see fantasy as the outlet for the rational football fan in me. The guy who agrees with the ESPN experts about the game today. I am sitting Boldin not out of principle, but because I am starting Colston and Sidney Rice (against DET) over a guy who has been a huge disappointment all season. Boldin has burned me enough this year (by sucking) so he is guilty until proven innocent for me at this point. I am also thinking WIlson/Trufant/Lucas all healthy is gonna be pretty good..
I understand NFL players (especially defenseive) not starting weekly opponents on their teams. As a fan though, I think its fine. I would rather my team win then win in fantasy. My fantasy plays don’t affect the outcome. If an opponent has a big play, I’m glad if it was my player versus another one, but not glad in general.
by michaelfox99 on Nov 15, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly, it's a fine line.
I didn’t say to sit Fitz, he is just too good. However, with iffier players I strongly suggest not playing them if they are a “coin flip” decision. It just makes it easier on your fan-psyche. My greater suggestion is to avoid drafting great players from division rivals as much as possible. Obviously neither can be avoided completely, but it is always more enjoyable to not be conflicted a bit…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 15, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's the A.M. Game Thread?
maybe I’ll have to make one.
by Misfit74 on Nov 15, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Done Game Thread in fanpost section.
:)
by Misfit74 on Nov 15, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well i hope i dont regret starting housh over marshall
marshall has 2 touchdowns right now : (
by somepnoy9189 on Nov 15, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING UPDATE-- If he's available in your league, consider picking up Larry Johnson.
He’s going to the Bengals and expected to sign, and Benson’s hip injury may be more serious than first thought. Sounds like an opportunity for LJ to prove, like Benson before him, that he still has something left in the tank while playing for the outlaw and castoff heavy Bengals.
Speaking of which, don’t the Bengals now resemble the Raiders in their glory years, loaded with other teams castoffs and socially unacceptable renegades? It’s Raider-East up in Cincy.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
A very good start to the fantasy post all around
and with Seattle slipping out of contention, I may participate myself next week. Open question for any fantasy heads out there: If I started a keeper league before next season and made it a money league (I would hope I am trustworthy), could we fill it out and make it competitive? I would want something huge. 20 people, full rosters, keep four or something.
by John Morgan on Nov 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Depending on how you want to construct it, I could see myself being in...
I do like having a commish I trust (see thread above about some commish’s douche move).
My keeper league is pretty in depth, we’re in year 5 and have rewritten rules yearly— this last year being the least amendments now that things seem to be progressing solidly. It might be something we can talk about offline if you wish, as a starting point in looking at things differently. There are a lot of pros and some definite cons to a keeper league…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 16, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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