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Mora's Presser and General Feelings Towards Our HC

Initially I just wanted to link the Presser and discuss Mora's comments on the officiating. (Here is the link, comments start at ~6:50). He gets a little spicy (justifiably so) and I thought the way he addressed the Fitz mask-grab and the NFL's handling of disputes were pretty funny. 

Then, I thought it might be interesting to gauge the community's feelings on Jimmy Mora. Not just whether we like him or not, but how people think he is doing, his attitude, and his overall handling of the team. We have probably the most intelligent Seahawks blog on the intertubes (take that for what it's worth) so this could generate good discussion.

Personally, I like Mora. He has had a few coaching bumps (4th down in Lions game, balling on Mare, etc.) and sometimes I think he sets himself up to get picked on by Officials with the way he undiplomatically treats them, but as a whole I like the way he coaches and his direction for the team. Will he be our coach for years to come? I don't know, but I would to hope so, for the continuity factor if nothing else.

What do you fellas think?

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He's a good administrator/face of the franchise

and as long as he keeps hiring smart assistant coaches, I’m cool with him.

by John Morgan on Nov 16, 2009 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

+1 rec.

My roommate (UofA grad, Cards fan) had a hard time understanding when I tried to explain how bad DeHaven has been for us. He didn’t think a special teams coach makes much of a difference, nor that he changing him out would alter anything.

I searched him here and read off about a paragraph from like 5 different game write ups, and he saw the light. Bruce DeHaven, illuminating Cardinal fans nationwide.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 17, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I plead ignorance on special teams

but it seems to me there’s Bobby April, maybe a small handful of other ST coaches above the cut, very little fresh blood — sopped up by offense and defense — and a large pack of simply average, adequate ST coaches, two dozen or so in the league, who are no more better or worse than each other, but simply a large cut below the top guys.

They get re-treaded everywhere. Most all fans hate their own, but none of them seem to develop an actual bad reputation as they float from job to job. I don’t see what is so bad about DeHaven. The media spun it as a good hire after the last guy was so hated.

But injuries decimating our competitiveness, which doesn’t happen to all very injured teams, would be a sign that our depth is poor. The one real repeated, seemingly quite coachable gaff our ST unit keeps making, is returners catching the ball inside the 8, when they shouldn’t, or letting it roll inside the 12, when they should be catching it. But the coaches have on at least two occasions stated publicly that the players shouldn’t do that, so it’s not going unnoticed. The rest of it seems to be bad talent. The gunners and return specialist roles have been filled not by guys who earned a roster spot because they could do that, but because we needed high body counts at positions to mitigate injuries and retained personnel with pronounced injury risk.

The last coach the Hawks got rid of that I’m certain was a poor coach was Ray Rhodes. John Marshall wasn’t a good or innovative coordinator or game manager. Like John said at one point, not sure if he was bad, but fresh blood was needed. Soon we’ll probably reach the same with DeHaven, but I can’t quantify what is so bad about him, if anything is.

by jacobstevens on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I for one am a fan of going for it on 4th down.

The going for it in the Lions game was a bonus credit to him, not a bump. I think Billy B made the right call last night, too. Someday someone is going to come in and not give a rip about tradition and turn the league on its head by going for it more often then not, and possibly win more because of it. Certainly they wont lose more because of it if they do it right… The sweatshirt already wins more than pretty much everybody, AND he goes for it more than pretty much everybody, AND everybody calls him the smartest coach in the league. Not a coincidence, just most people haven’t caught on yet.

The fact that our guy is willing to go for it unconventionally thrills me, to be honest.

I like him. I also think he is smart, and that he hired good assistants for the most part. I’m a little worried about the hothead factor, but I think it is negotiable and not overwhelming. All in all, I’m extremely optimistic he can be a great coach.

Also, I’m PISSED Madden2010 gave us about the lowest coaching rating in the league. I can’t figure out how they decided on that, but it was pretty ridiculous…

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 16, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

It has to be about the lowest.

There might be one or two lower, but it is comically bad. Also our special teams is weak, and Mare has no boot in the game. I can only get a ball 2 deep in the end zone at best, and often not around the 5 or so. Maybe there is a trick to kicking that I don’t have the touch on (despite being excellent at Tiger Woods, a similar action) but I got outkicked by my roommate (UofA grad, Card fan) EVERY TIME.

In fact, I can’t beat him when he plays with Arizona, and me Seattle, and it really pisses me off. I almost have more years Madden experience than he has years alive… vids are starting to pass me by, sigh…

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 17, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

"His star player killed dogs, he's a bad coach!"

I know, pretty arbitrary. You’re making this “Beat Whiskey’s roomate in Madden” sound like a mission…

by DJ C-Raig on Nov 17, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh it is.

What’s worse, we don’t play very often, so I have to wait between beatings…

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 17, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Mora is starting to develop John Gruden's scowl.

Then again, with this team and how things have gone, I don’t blame him.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 16, 2009 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

He reminds me of George W.

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by Wayward Llama on Nov 17, 2009 4:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I like Mora now more than ever

Because he accepted whats true instead of trying to pump up the fans.The Seahawks aren’t a good football team, aren’t streaky aren’t absolutely awful, but now, based on what he finally admitted with honesty, I’m ready to buckle down with him. I’ll battle on the boards and if Ruskell gets canned, I’ll campaign for Mora to stay.

by Joshua Kasparek on Nov 17, 2009 12:14 AM PST reply actions  

Everybody here has said pretty much how I feel.

I waited half the season to really form an opinion and after the Cards game, I like him. When he was yelling at the refs to let them play instead of calling ticky-tack fouls I liked his fire. What he said in the press conference was great. He hires great assistants and I believe that he and Ruskell given another 2 years can turn this team into a great one.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.

by Hopefulmsfan on Nov 17, 2009 12:40 AM PST reply actions  

Me too.

I think it was one of the Trufant PI calls in the Dallas game where the cameras zoomed to him and while I’m no lipreading expert it sure looked like he was screaming “What the fuck?!?” Anyone who finds and gifs that will be my new hero!

by thebyron on Nov 17, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I like his willingness to adapt and try new things.

I like that they ran the Senecat a lot more yesterday. I like his explaination on why they rushed 3 guys on so many plays against Warner, it made a lot of sense. I agree with Hopefulmsfan, I loved when he was yelling for the refs to let them play. And while I’m disappointed that nobody on the Hawks stood up for Hasselbeck when Dockett was pushing down on his throat (I’m hoping they just didn’t see it, but are pissed about it now and will remember it next year), I loved when Mora said that if they’re not calling, we should be doing it to their QB too.

All around, I like him and his staff, and I hope we give him a few years to get things turned around here.

by Mind of no mind on Nov 17, 2009 2:46 AM PST reply actions  

I like the fact that players generally like him...

Young and energetic… Could be good for the FA hunting efforts.

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by iverson2169 on Nov 17, 2009 2:49 AM PST reply actions  

You look at guys like Mora

Football is in his blood and he’s been around pro coaching, he’s young and very hungry to succeed after his Atlanta stint it’s all the things you want in a young coach rebuilding a franchise, it’s a lot less risky than picking a guy hot off the college presses or a retread older coach with success but not a lot of years left in him to coach. Holmgren was a rare find at 50 so I gotta say Mora from a stand point of all the things you look for, is good.

by Joshua Kasparek on Nov 17, 2009 3:55 AM PST reply actions  

Solid.

abender20 hates freedom.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 17, 2009 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Mora knee jerks

I liked Mora before he became HC and still do; however I was ticked when he hung Mare out to dry after the Bears loss. (i.e. several DBs could have done their job and won the game for us too) Since then he has been solid so maybe he has learned something from coach Holmy. You go up and down as a team, not calling out indivdual players. If a player is not playing up to the standards you think he can or should; replace him. His roster moves in recent weeks seem to indicate he is getting the hang of this aspect. It has to be team oriented logical decisions not emotional.

by Hawkwiz on Nov 17, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

I approve.

Aside from chewing out Mare (and he backtracked on that, thankfully) I think he’s been very good. I liked the presser.

by thebyron on Nov 17, 2009 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

I still like Mora

I think he’s got one bad dynamic to him, and that’s his hotheadedness. Looks bad in post-game reports — Mare — and I wonder about the screaming at the players. He, Bradley and Quinn. I like it, but I wonder if they’re appropriately, tactfully cognizant of the limits of when it’s warranted and when it’s helpful. I can accept if the players weren’t giving enough effort or focus during the Indy game. My untrained eye didn’t notice it, so maybe it’s OK, but it would be reassuring to see honey occasionally served beside the vinegar, something sometimes quite necessary after a hard loss, and I wonder if he runs the risk of the team tuning him out if his seat warms.

I love his energy, but I also see the competitive and gamesmanship value of the Belichick poker-face that even Sun Tzu endorses. I know, watching the Dallas game, if I saw his reactions on the other sideline, I’d make a concerted effort to turn the screw and get him even more riled up and try to make him lose focus on game management.

The energy is a positive asset as well, though. I think he’s detailed-oriented, I think he’s creative, not necessarily innovative but very open to innovation. I have faith in what he’s building for the future, with Ruskell.

I am a bit disappointed with the defensive scheme. I was expecting a lot more, and hoped for something groundbreaking. But after being rather pleased in the preseason with the new wrinkles, and not solely looking to organically conceive of innovation but embracing some of the newest innovations to the game like the fire zone blitz, during the season it’s been quite sparsely integrated into the games. I don’t see any real concerns of vulnerability, I don’t see enough use of it to gauge much about it’s effectiveness or our execution at all, it’s too soon to say. But it shouldn’t be. There’s not much else to lose, by this point, the front seven is the clear strength in talent on the team, why not get some West Coast Defense going?

Maybe Tim Lewis alone ever intended to call it that. Maybe he only meant to say they intentions were to be a good defense, that happened to reside on the West Coast.

Adjustments have been OK. Knapp, I’m fond of. I think he does a good job. The coverage-focused gameplan against Warner didn’t work, but for a while it seemed to. It was very bold, and I can appreciate that.

Premature, but I’ll go so far as to say I find Mora above-average across the board, in nearly every category, but the one glaring drawback is composure. But he built a very good coaching staff. He has a good handle on what the team’s personnel needs are, and any personnel polity issue we may have would stem from Ruskell — if he truly undervalues tackle. If he truly is planning on pushing out QB until the year after, like RB, WR, and soon, tackle. I like Ruskell more than Mora, though, heh.

by jacobstevens on Nov 17, 2009 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

Gotta give him at least one more year

My gut says that he’s a pretty average coach and a bit of a has-been but him and Ruskell get at least 2 full years together before I’m calling for any heads. His Atlanta team was pretty average, our secondary — which he coached – was bad last year and Knapp has also called plays for some pretty bad teams too. These guys don’t exactly have a stellar track record…

Alot of injuries, especially on the O-Line, really took some of the new scheme stuff off the rails. Now the team is basically healthy. Lets see what they can do. They’re not likely to beat Minny on the road. But if they can at least hang in there and make a game of it I’ll see that as a sign of progress.

I was very disappointed that when Arizona made adjustments on Sunday, that Seattle didn’t counter with any adjustments of their own. Holmgren was getting a bit over-ripe in Seattle and it was time for him to move on, but he always made great half-time adjustments. Maybe we got spoiled by that.

by Keasley on Nov 17, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

I'm on the bubble

I like his passion, and I actually like his assitants. I just think he teeters on bad leadership when he loses his cool. He would be wise to accept responsibility for all things Seahawks from now one. The first six weeks were not a great lesson in team leadership, but he has adapted.

That said, he may have been able to let go of the season. Thus, what will he do when games matter again?

I would love to see our assistants creativity with some people on the line to give time to make them or take time away from others to make them.

Color me grey.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Nov 17, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Errata on my shitty post
That said, he may have been able to let go of the season. Thus, what will he do when games matter again?

He seemed less composed when he was coaching to make the playoffs. Now that the pressure is off, he is more able to lead. He needs to lead with composure in all scenarios.

I would love to see our assistants creativity with some people on the line to give time to make them or take time away from others to make them.

I would love to see what Mora’s assistants could do with an offensive line and a savvy defensive end.

Thanks for your patience. I am sober. That is depressing.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Nov 17, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Mental Toughness

Not his, but his team’s. I watch teams like the Cincinnati Bengals, for example, scrap and claw to the last second and pull out late, come-from-behind wins. The Seahawks, on the other hand, tend to crumble, and stay crumbled. (The Lions game does NOT count for those of you thinking it).

The team’s mental toughness just isn’t there. Is this something attributable to the coach?

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Nov 18, 2009 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

Nick

That would suddenly mean Marvin Lewis discovered the art of instilling mental toughness in his team and he’s been there since (2002?) So what you seem to think is true probably isn’t. After nine games, you’re going to first of all presume to know what a coach is instilling and second of all, you’re going to peg Mora as this or that with only 9 games away.

by Joshua Kasparek on Nov 18, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Krazy, good point on Marvin Lewis.

He didn’t instill nuthin’ in his team last year, but this year— through 9 games— he is master instiller.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I would suggest Marvin Lewis has changed nothing but

Adding Mike Zimmer last year. Cincy’s defense has become what Seattle hopes to become.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Nov 18, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

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