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The Official Fantasy Football Thread – Week 11. The place for fantasy talk, thought, questions and general fantasy ranting.

Here at Field Gulls we’ve had discussions on just about every aspect of football, including having discussions about when we can or should have discussions about Fantasy.  Well, this IS the place.  You can, if you must, add fantasy talk in additional game threads, but be warned, someone may be watching, and they may be mocking.  Here, you have free rein to talk your team’s reign or your rain of injuries.

Something to note, and this should be a true football fan’s golden ticket when it comes to heaven and hell and the voiding of the warranty on your soul.

The first rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against your favorite team.
The second rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against your favorite team.


On this site, never cheer vocally against the Seahawks due to your fantasy roster.  Statements like, "Well, at least I have Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team" (if) he was scorching the Hawks will unleash the hounds of hell upon you.  Please don’t be that one bastard playing the "Don’t Come" line at the craps table.  Not only will you bring bad mojo to everybody, but you’ll likely get verbally harassed, if not banned.  You are a Seahawk fan, you are not "that guy" you are one of OUR guys—so act like it!

Star-divide

Rants and Ramblings.


I have a confession to make.  I might not be the best person to be giving fantasy advice.  I haven’t won a fantasy championship in three years.  I feel a little like Dan Marino in around ’85.  You know he believed he was going to make it back to the promised land and win one, and he never again got close…  Speaking of which, don’t you feel a little like Dan Marino is about to wrap his isotoners around someone’s neck the next time they mention how great a leader and winner and talented of a quarterback is Ben Roethlisberger?

However little I’ve won recently, I do believe I put together good teams.  I think my rationale is sound…  it’s just… the luck part of fantasy football and poker seem to fall away from me.

Fantasy football is an endeavor in hope, and all you can do as fantasy GM is put the best possible pieces together and pray they stay healthy and perform up to expectations. Well, isn’t that interesting.  Sounds a little like the same thing that a real GM has to deal with.  So the next time you have some commentary about Ruskell’s inability to put together whatever aspect of the Hawks you find lacking, ask yourself this—are you in first place in your Fantasy League, a place far more inherently easy to win than the NFL?  If not, perhaps your methodology for expectation in the Hawks is a little off base, eh?

Let’s talk a little about "Luck" as it pertains to fantasy football.  I completely believe there are times where you make your own luck, but we have to be cognizant that there are times where things just break bad.  One team in my keeper league has ZERO luck.  Two weeks ago, he made a blockbuster, trading Matt Forte for Roy Williams, a 2nd round pick, and a RB outperforming Forte with a less attractive contract, Ronnie Brown.  One week later, Brown goes down, lost for the year to injury.  This is the 2nd time this has happened to him, as two years ago he traded for Cadillac Williams the week before he blew his ACL.  Guy just needs to stay away from ex-Auburn teammates when trading for running backs.

I’ll be sure to let you know if he trades for Brandon Jacobs, since Jacobs started his college career in that same Auburn backfield…

Continuing on the "luck" tangent, listen to this team, in a .5 ppr 10 team league.  (PPR= Point Per Reception)

QB - Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan
RB -  AP, Ray Rice, Kevin Smith, Steve Slaton (and a recently picked up Larry Johnson on a flier.)
WR – Greg Jennings, Anquan Boldin, Percy Harvin, Nate Burleson
TE – Dustin Keller (just picked him while dropping a fading Todd Heap)
K – Stephen Gostkowski
D – Cincy.


Looks pretty good, right?  Great RB’s, a solid QB, talented WR’s, best kicker in the game and a top 5 defense.
 
Yeah, well, I’m 4-6 and in 8th place.  How is that even possible, that this team can be below .500 and on a three game losing streak?!?   6 teams make the playoffs, just have to hope I can get hot and pull an NC State tourney run.  Survive and advance, survive and advance.  The league playoffs aren’t until week 14, but mine start this week.  Hope my team gets the memo.
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The Picks.

The YOU IDIOT start from last week:  NYJ D vs. Jacksonville.  Apparently I didn’t get the memo that the NYJ D hasn’t done anything since about week 5, and Jacksonville has done nothing but get better offensively since the shellacking our Hawks put on them.

Dump of the Week:  NYJ D.  They’ve gone down hill from a modest to solid start, to a matchup start.  Now with only Buffalo and TB left as potential matchup starts, there are better week to week D’s available.  Let them go and don’t pick them back up! 

The "You’ve got the touch" Reach Start of the Week:  Beanie Wells against St. Louis.  If you are ever going to start him, St. Louis is the team to do it against.  Otherwise, might as well shelf him the rest of the way.

The bad idea play of the week:  Hate to say it, but it’s our boy Matt Hasselbeck.  Minnesota’s given up a ton of passing yardage this year, but most of it has been mid to deep routes, not check downs.  For Matt to have a big game, his wide receivers are going to have to kill it in the YAC categories.  Not to mention we’re at Minny, which means snap count/audible issues and of course, Jared Allen coming around the corner hard and fast.  Not good.

And, because someone commented in a thread a while back that AP might be primarily a product of his line, not that he is a great back, but only that he is "pretty good" or some such.  Here is a first half of 2009 highlight reel in HD.  Guy is crazy good.  Check 1:42 for a little Pittsburgh beat down (how can that NOT make a Seahawk fan happy, even if it wasn't our guy handing out the beat down. 

We get to watch the best back in the league this week… may the Hawks contain him.


 

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My league is 15 yards per point and 10 point bonus for 170 yards rush, and 10 points for 170 yards receiving. TD = 6 and no PPR.

I am definitely going
RB1: Chris Johnson
WR1: Marques Colston

the question is for RB2, WR2, and W/R
I have Boldin (STL), Sidney Rice (SEA), Mendenhall (KC) and Gore (GB). I am thiking of sitting Gore because GB has been so good against the run and the game is at Lambeau. The other three have pimp matchups… What do you guys think? I feel like I might really regret sitting Gore, he has been a monster this year.

by michaelfox99 on Nov 20, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

The nice thing about your options-- they're good ones.

Given Mendenhall’s matchup, I think you have to go with him. I’d probably go Boldin as he is finally being listed as completely healthy. I’d lean Gore with the last slot. A) not playing the Hawks B) you already are expressing doubt about sitting him, C) he can handle a heavy workload in a grind-it-out game.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 20, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely Rice for WR2
RB2: Mendenhall
W/R: Gore

by brianinptown on Nov 21, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The Golden Rule

of fantasy says to sit Rice because he’s going against Seattle. Gore is an every down back so no matter how tough the matchup, he should at least get you decent results.

here’s one….

Mendenhall v KC or McCoy v Chicago?

by jchc027 on Nov 20, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

Mendenhall…he’ll get touches and keep the ball with the lead

by brianinptown on Nov 21, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

sit/start

fairly standard scoring settings
Calvin Johnson playing Cle
Anquan Boldin @ Stl

by el pato on Nov 20, 2009 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Johnson…they’ll want to win with him…probably a tough game – passing the all day

Boldin may rest with a lead

by brianinptown on Nov 21, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

Ronnie Brown got injured and that seems to be the 15th time I’ve cut someone after sustaining injury for a long period.

I picked up Reggie Bush. Good pickup or bad pickup?

Seattle Seahawks: The only team in the NFL to trail 17-17 according to Dick Stockton.

by SSreporters on Nov 20, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Just as long as he is your flex....

I would be nervous as a whore in church if I had to use Bush as a 1 or 2.

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 20, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I have Mike Bell, Felix Jones, and Reggie Bush

Seattle Seahawks: The only team in the NFL to trail 17-17 according to Dick Stockton.

by SSreporters on Nov 20, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

How is your league setup?

RB, RB, WR/RB, WR WR ?

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Schaub or McNabb this week?

I’m thinking Schaub. But both secondaries (Tennessee and Chicago) suck.

Seattle Seahawks: The only team in the NFL to trail 17-17 according to Dick Stockton.

by SSreporters on Nov 20, 2009 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

I would stay away from Tennesee's D for one reason...

The offense is clicking and the running game is starting to control the clock well, but I could see Tennessee being behind in the game allowing Houston to run the ball.

Two offenses grinding it out on the ground scares me from a QB standpoint.

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

McNabb

They are both pretty solid, but since Owen Daniels went down, Schaub hasn’t been quite as much of a beast. I have him in my league and have gone away from him for that reason.

by Dedalusson on Nov 21, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

McNabb.
Schaub has a struggling running game, and Walter hasn’t kept DB’s off Johnson

by brianinptown on Nov 21, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Ryan or Jason Campbell?

Ryan is against the Giants, Campbell against the Cowboys.

And I’m curious about my RBs. I’ve got Thomas Jones, Matt Forte, and Mendenhall in right now. However, I have Ahmad Bradshaw, Justin Fargas, and Jamaal Charles on my bench.

My receivers are Calvin Johnson and Boldin, what QB/RBs do you guys think I should start?

QB
RB
RB
RB/WR
WR
WR
TE
D
K

by Ovreel on Nov 20, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions  

This may sound weird...

…but I like starting the QB that has a better chance of losing the game if it isn’t a clear cut choice (Manning, Brady etc.). The reason being that a QB needing to come from behind will usually be asked to pass more than a QB playing with a lead and needing to milk the clock.

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 21, 2009 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan has Turner out and White is hurting, but I just couldn’t stand starting Campbell in his place

by brianinptown on Nov 21, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit Bush

So he’s in the RB/WR/TE spot so I benched him and started Santonio Holmes.

Seattle Seahawks: The only team in the NFL to trail 17-17 according to Dick Stockton.

by SSreporters on Nov 21, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

Burelson or Harvin; Addai or Snelling

Last week the consensus was Burleson over Harvin…we all know how that went. Clean slate and the teams are playing each other…what do you think? Once again I’m leaning Burleson

And how about this:

Addai @ BAL
or
Snelling (Turner’s replacement) vs NYG

Seems like a tough matchup for Addai and Snelling seemed to play well in relief last week for Turner who is out.

simple scoring:
1 pt = 10 yards rushing and/or receiving
6 pt = TD

Thoughts?

by brianinptown on Nov 21, 2009 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

I'd go Harvin.

Burleson may get some catches but I doubt he gets in the end zone. Harvin should get some chances to make some big plays, and if you get points for Returnsm Harvin might score one of those too. Then again, It’s the question of a Hawk vs a Vike and I do have to support the Hawk. For RB I’d go Snelling though. I think he’s gonna have a big day.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Nov 21, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

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