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Jj_flag_detail1_tiny by John Morgan on Comment 256 comments

Seattle will finish somewhere between 5-11 and 7-9. Tim Ruskell has succeeded adding talented depth, bricklayers, but the Seahawks lack elite talent. It's too early to know how much elite talent this draft holds*, but should it be top heavy but heavy with second tier talent, as it looks now, Seattle might trade up and draft a cornerstone player in the first and then trade back and acquire picks:

Star-divide

1. Nadomukung Suh, Eric Berry, Gerald McCoy, Spiller if he runs a monster 40, Dunlap, maybe Bradord, Morgan etc.

2a. Ciron Black

2b. Colt McCoy

For Seattle to be able to move into the top ten, but still have two picks within the top 64, It will need Denver to give it a good pick. The Broncos are lame. Put em down Giants.

(McCoy is short and does not have a strong arm. I do not think McCoy has poor arm strength and imagine he's slightly shorter than Matthew Stafford. However, short quarterbacks with average arms are rarely chosen early in the draft. Mark Sanchez isn't helping anyone either.)

*How would we typify the 2009 draft? A great linebacker draft and not a shit lot else?

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Denver will finish 9-7 or 8-8

Provided they lose this game of course.

GO GIANTS!

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

6-10 gets you in the top ten.

If the Broncos are the teens, Seattle could potentially get any one player it wanted.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd guess our picks will be somewhere around #12 and #20

If the Seahawks finish 7-9 and Broncos 9-7.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Nov 28, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

1st round pick (I) – Eric Berry
1st round pick (II) – Chuck Norris
2nd round pick – Steve Raible’s mustache

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On a serious note

I would like to take a look at drafting Javier Arenas.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FSU is mired in awful

It would be foolish for a pro talent to return.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just unearthed this from March 19

I think I overpaid for Brohm.

1. WR Michael Crabtree
   2. SS Patrick Chung
   3. And
   4. Pick for QB Brian Brohm and Green Bay’s 6th round pick
   5. OG Tyronne Green
   6. RB Ian Johnson and TE Bear Pascoe
   7. WR Brian Hartline, CB Brice McCain, RB Devin Moore, P/K Thomas Morstead

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 5:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking at mock drafts

and there’s two Charlie Brown’s?!

*head asplodes

by aerozeppelin on Nov 26, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In hindsight...

Would you rather have drafted these players than the ones we got?

by Strictnine on Nov 26, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My fantasy league has punter and kicker slots...

if Thomas Morstead did both, he would instantly become one of the most important players in the history of fantasy. That would be pretty sick…

I often wonder why nobody ever tries to reduce roster spots with a combo guy— if of course the right guy came along.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 26, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

On my birthday. :-)

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 27, 2009 2:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Keyshawn is too big

If Crabtree is Keyshawn good, then I’ll be pissed.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I realize he's smaller than Johnson

but I meant just body of work over a career looks like it could be similar to me. I’m not sure why.

by Krazyleggs on Nov 26, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't quite think of a match for Crabtree

He’s a weird mix of physical, athletic and deceptively quick.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Herman Moore.

BooYAH!!!

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 26, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

But perhaps my bias clouds my judgement.

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 27, 2009 2:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

my eyes are shitting the bed tonight.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 5:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

*Sigh*

Giants secondary.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Has Rocky Bernard even been a factor for the Giants?

I don’t recall him being on the field much.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 5:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Giants

A.) Miss Plaxico (the receiver).

B.) Need to use Bradshaw more when healthy.

C.) Need better secondary guys.

D.) Have Eli Manning.

E.) All of the Above

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 5:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Millen isn't too bad in the booth.

Not charming, but at least he attempts to be informative.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A very audible F-bomb there

From feisty McDaniels.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone ever heard of Jerrod Johnson he looks like he's pretty legit

big 6’5 qb strong armed he’s tearing apart the Texas Secondary right now.
If he was in the 2 or later rounds i wouldn’t mind if ruskell nabbed him

by somepnoy9189 on Nov 26, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yeah just saw that he's a junior still looks like he can be good

I wonder whats going to happen to the BCS if Texas loses because Florida or Bama is going to lose and theirs going to be 3 undefeated Smaller division schools will it be Florida or Bama Vs TCU Boise or Cinci

by somepnoy9189 on Nov 26, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Career 59.5% passer in college

not particularly accurate guy.

I don’t think Texas will lose this but if they do the pressure would be heavily on TCU.

Cinci is in the Big East which is not a mid major conference.

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on Nov 26, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They apologized?

For an F-bomb? On DIGITAL PREMIUM CABLE?

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm absolutely shocked

Give McDaniels a $250k fine.

by aerozeppelin on Nov 26, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jacobs for 2

Jacobs for 2
Jacobs for -2

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If he was in Holmgren's system

He’d be benched and Jacobs would get 25 carries for 45 yards the rest of the way.

Jacobs would get injured, return two weeks later with him triumphantly saying “We have the old Brandon Jacobs back.”

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm slowly losing confidence in the Giants

Orton’s incompetence gives me the confidence that the Broncos can still blow this game however.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This Giants defensive coordinator

Should have a giant turkey drumstick shoved up his ass.

Put pressure on this sitting duck. Orton blows. No more 4 man rush.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree completely

The Giants have more than adequate personnel to rush four. Protect the damn secondary, they are getting killed out there.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My god

The Giants are going to miss the playoffs. This is some pitiful defense.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jets @ Bills in Toronto next week

I’m ready for some Sanchise.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if the Broncos tank

will Marshall start raising hell again?

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh and before 44-6

There was 24-21 and 42-30.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True, but I still hate them for some reason.

Actually it might be the fact that they were average in 2007 and won the superbowl, that pissed me off. Seattle was better in 2007.

SEA!

by MFAN on Nov 26, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They knew how to win on the road (which compensates for their awful home record)

We didn’t.

They also had a rushing attack. We didn’t.

I would consider them slightly better than us that year.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't.

They just matched up better against certain teams. I think the Seahawks could have beaten the Giants, but I don’t think they could have done against the Patriots what the Giants did against them.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

John Marshall.

Giants are better.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jacobs should be running over people

Not stutter-stepping his way laterally.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 6:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

"Thank you coverage"?

That pressure was near-instantaneous. How many receivers even finished their routes?

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 6:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Joe Haden please

I am tired of watching Jennings and Trufant suck

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Nov 26, 2009 7:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Trufant doesn't suck

I’m mildly interested in Donovan Warren from Michigan.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Nov 26, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If anyone cares

Walter Football has us taking Spiller at #23 with Denver’s pick.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010_1.php

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh good

that’s a relief.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Replacing Quinn with another ND quarterback

Well, I guess the Browns did sign Mangini.

by aerozeppelin on Nov 26, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More talk about Dumervil's height

I’m amazed he can hold himself upright.

by John Morgan on Nov 26, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Watching the game one the internet..

Donkeys better lose. Is all I gotta say.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

To continue our conversation.

If I were into dudes I don’t see myself as one that would like to cuddle afterwards.

So David Carr for me.

abender20 hates freedom.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 26, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Denver isn't this good.

The Giants are a joke.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Goddammit New York.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rocky Bernard?

Yes. Signed as a free agent.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Giants...

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 7:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

3rd and 1 and you throw.

Yeah the Giants are going 7-9.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Nov 26, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is that the Seahawks wearing those Giants jerseys tonight?

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Nov 26, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Since you suggested it John... may I offer...

1. Gerald McCoy DT
2. Derrick Morgan DE
3. Tony Pike QB

Thought Process: RB and OL are both early round luxuries in a ZBS.

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 26, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

To expand on that....

McCoy looks to be a monster 3-tech in the NFL, giving us a chance to move MEBANE back to his more natural home-wrecking spot.

Morgan gives us an edge rush to compliment the immovable force that would be McCoy and Mebane in the middle. You might then go Tapp at the other end and rotate Jackson at every one of the spots.

Pike looks to be one of those “Flacco” types. Long and lanky with an arm to stretch the field. A typical pocket passer.

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 26, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That might be a reflection on the backup, and not on Pike.

I know nothing about Pike, but I think it may be reasonable to entertain that notion until we know more about Pike.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If this were our draft...

I’d be ecstatic since I’m starting to think more and more that the first round (and early second) is in a general sense for D-line and QBs. Of course you draft value when there’s value, but in this case, you’re getting value and positions that are key.

by LantermanC on Nov 26, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I could be wrong, but...

When you think about Seattle’s defense being “close”…. I think it may be that edge rusher and a second bulldozer to go along with Mebane that could make the difference between “good with promise”, and a truly devastating unit. Of course a defense like that always makes your offense better as well because of the field position game, and turnovers.

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 26, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The first two picks, I can fucks with that.

Tony Pike, I know nothing about. What can anyone tell me about him?

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Nov 26, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Having recovered from Turkey OD, and with coffee in hand, thought I'd chime in

First, I loved Iversons 1st 2 picks, McCoy and Morgan. Not sure about Pike. Hate Colt McCoy. I thought it was ironic that he passed David Greene’s career yards mark during the A&M game. I think he’s a great college QB who will bust in the NFL, just like Greene. Having said all of that, I’d really like CJ Spiller. Jones might have to go, because he’d pout about splitting carries, but Spiller could get 20 touches per game between rush/receive/return and be a game breaker. And he meets all the Ruskell requirements. Luxury be damned. He would help us win games next year. Not sure I can say that about Morgan. DE typically takes a couple years to develop.

by diehard82 on Nov 27, 2009 7:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

6 TDs today! 6'6" or 6'5". I don't know much about him, but if he's there in the 2nd,

I think it would be a risk worth taking. Of course if we opt for Ciron Black, I won’t complain.

by LantermanC on Nov 27, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... I've been watching PIke a bit this year. Today was monster!

T. Pike, QB
32-46, 399 yds
6 TDs
0 INT

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 27, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the year speaks for itself as well....

11-0 team
23 TD’s
3 INT’s

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 27, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Orton shaved the neckbeard before the SD game on Sunday

I was going to blame Denver’s poor play on it, but he played well tonight while looking like a high school junior.

Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle

by appleshampoo on Nov 27, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Screw the Defense

When was the last time we used a first round pick on OFFENSE! It looks like Denver has found its winning ways and will end up being 11-5. I am rooting hard for Denver (and Seattle) to lose every game and Pittsburg to win every game to keep Denver from a wildcard birth. Seattle will probably get the 8-10 pick and Denver’s 20-25 pick.

Take a look on You Tube and watch CJ Spiller for Heisman videos 1 &2. You will drool with the thought of him in grey and green. This is how it should be:

1a) Spiller, there is only 1 of him, better take him now because we wont be picking this high again..
1b) Best LT available.
2) Best QB available. If Has was a 6th rd pick, we should find someone good here.
no 3rd round pick
4) best Safety available
5) Lagaret Blount. A stud, take no prisoners, with speed and power. most talented player left with little risk. Provides the thunder to Spillers lightning. Great combination.

by blazerbill on Nov 27, 2009 5:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LaGarrette Blount = "little risk"?

Are you assuming already that Tim Ruskell will not be involved with the pick? Because the odds of him taking Blount are pretty low after that infamous punch.

by thebyron on Nov 27, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would be screaming at my tv

If he falls that low and we don’t pick him up.

by chrees on Nov 27, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's an impossible pick.

The thing about character is lessons learned are a part of it, as is focusing on working on past issues and mistakes and changing oneself. I believe if Ruskell thinks the guy has turned a corner, that he would be draftable by us… remember, this is the same guy that went ahead and gave approval, if hesitant, to bring Koren Robinson back. Koren’s rap sheet and history were darker than is Blount’s, and his upside lower.

I’m not saying he WILL draft him, just that we shouldn’t automatically discount the possibility.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by whiskey chainsaw on Nov 28, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

1a) Sam Bradford
1b) Brian Bulaga / Ciron Black
2) Nate Allen

by SPENCEMAN on Nov 28, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This thread made me laugh at Seahawk fans.

Bronco fan here.

Enjoy your 24th-ish overall pick by way of Denver. The Broncos still have three games (two at home) vs KC and Oakland. We’ll finish 10-6, maybe 11-5 if we play with the intensity we showed vs NYG.

It should be a deep draft, but the only Top 10 pick Seattle will make in the 2010 NFL draft will be the one based on your record.

This trade sure hasn’t worked out the way you all hoped it would. If it’s any consolation, Alphonso Smith has been disappointing for Denver.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 29, 2009 11:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nanny nanny boo boo.

We will indeed enjoy the pick, thanks.

(Go Chargers.)

by thebyron on Nov 29, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure if this is all that true....
This trade sure hasn’t worked out the way you all hoped it would.

Trading a 2nd round pick for a first round pick is a win no matter how you look at it. At this point we are just waiting to see how big of a “win” it is for us.

Looking at Denver’s remaining schedule and recent performances, that “win” could be anywhere from mid 20’s (the equivalent of a nice sized lottery scratch ticket)…. to a “win” as big as a pick in the low teens (like winning…. say…. the state of Colorado).

Could you imagine if, after it’s all said and done, you ended up trading the 17th pick in the draft for Alphonso Smith?

Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.

by iverson2169 on Nov 29, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll concede this much

I wish we had the pick Denver got from Chicago instead of their own.

Congrats to the Broncos for so astutely unloading Cutler. It seemed like a bad decision at the time, but looks pretty good in hindsight. Almost as good as the time we got a first-rounder for Rick Mirer from - wait for it! — the very same Chicago Bears.

by Mr Fish on Nov 30, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next year Mike Shanahan will rebuild the Bears, and he will have Cutler putting

up monster numbers again…

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by whiskey chainsaw on Dec 1, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We will certainly enjoy the pick, thanks.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Nov 30, 2009 6:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Got Douche?

Of course.

Enjoy that battle for the wildcard, and the first round exit from the playoffs that will come with it.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by whiskey chainsaw on Dec 1, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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