Who would you like to see Seattle target in free-agency?
by diehard82 on Nov 27, 2009 11:01 AM PST
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And of course, why?
For my part, I'm looking at current needs, and with the understanding (or belief on my part) that rookies don't always (some would say rarely) make an immediate impact by filling a need adequately, I want the Hawks to target an area of immediate need. In my mind that is O-line, D-line and D-backs.
I offer three options:
1. Aaron Kampman-DE Green Bay
Kampman was apprehensive about the switch to 3-4 OLB and based on results thus far, with good reason. He's done an admirable job by most accounts, but only has 3.5 sacks and prefers his hand in the dirt. In 2006-2007 he led the NFL with 23.5 sacks. He'll be 30 next year, so could start to suffer the typical drop-off in DE performance, as has been experienced with Kerney. Still, I have to believe he'd prefer to play in a 4-3, and I think he'd provide the improved QB pressure we need. Clearly, Seattle would have to part with Kerney and his salary if they sign Kampman.
2. Richard Seymour-DT Oakland
Oakland made a mind-boggling trade for Seymour who was reluctant about the move and remains unsigned beyond this season. He has dramatically improved Oakland's D-line play; however, I'd be shocked if he desires to stay in Oakland. He's been one of the premier 4-3 DT's and could seriously upgrade Seattle's D-line, allowing Mebane to move back to 1-tech. The totality of signing Seymour would not only make for a stout run defense, but also improve QB pressure. Cole would be relegated to competing with Bryant for playing time inside, or released or traded.
3. Oshiomogho Atogwe-FS St. Louis
Playing under St. Louis franchise tag, if St. Louis doesn't hammer out a long-term deal with him, Atogwe will command big money in spite of a down year. But then, who besides Steven Jackson hasn't had a down year in St. Louis? I still hope and believe Trufant will return to Pro-Bowl form, and Wilson is steady, so I view Safety as the bigger need. Atogwe has the added benefit of depriving St. Louis of their best defensive player, so ++ in value. At 28, he's getting up there in age, but no reason to believe he doesn't have 4-5 more years of excellent play left in those legs.
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by DaCards on Nov 27, 2009 11:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions
How about a Tackle there are some out there next year.
UFA and RFA tackles for 2010
1. Mike Gandy, UFA, AZ
2. Quinn Quinnaka, UFA, ATL
3. Jared Gaiter, RFA, BAL
4. Tony Moll, UFA, BAL
5. Adam Terry, UFA, BAL
6. OL, Marshal Yanda, RFA, BAL
7. Brad Butler, UFA, BUF
8. John Tait, UFA, CHI
9. Ryan Tucker, UFA, CLE
10. Pat McQuistan, UFA, DAL
11. Chad Clifton, UFA, GB
12. Eric Winston, UFA, HOU
13. Charlie Johnson, UFA, IND
14. Willie Roaf, UFA, KC
15. Jermon Bushrod, RFA, NO
16. Cornell Green, UFA, OAK
17. Winston Justice, UFA, PHI
18. Marcus McNeil, UFA, SD
19. Alex Barron, UFA, STL
20. Jeremy Trueblood, UFA, TB
21. Michael Roos, UFA, TEN
22. Stephon Heyer, UFA, WAS
We should be able to get one of the higher paid guys if we can convince them to come play here.
"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"
I looked long and hard at O-line FA's
and concluded that among the UFA’s, nobody jumped out at me as a clear upgrade over what we have. We’re either going to plan for Locklear at LT, thus FA would really be to replace Willis and possibly move him to Guard, or we’re moving Locklear back to the right side, in which case I think we’d have to spend a 1st rounder on future franchise LT and plan to play them day 1. Moving Locklear to the right side and obtaining a FA left tackle to replace him would be very expensive. I just don’t see Ruskell doing that. The difference on defense is Mebane is still cheap and can move to 1-tech easily, and Kerney can be let go to free up cap space. Locklear can’t be let go, and I doubt he’s tradeable. Also, I am one of those who believe the O-line really has the pieces to be very good if they can stay healthy and get more playing time together. I think we should definitely re-sign Spencer and probably Sims. I have zero faith Walt will be back, so from left to right, Locklear, Sims, Spencer, Unger and Willis with Wrotto, Frye and MacIntosh for depth. If MacIntosh wins the left tackle spot, then shift Locklear to RT and Willis to one of the guards. MacIntosh may not be part of the plan, in which case they need to at least draft an OT/OG prospect in the mid rounds. I’d much rather spend our first 3 picks on DL, DB, RB or QB.
On a related note, I just watched a replay of the Georgia Tech-Fl State game from last year. Derrick Morgan and Morgan Burnett had great games and both looked awesome. I learned something I didn’t realize about their offense, however. Their coach was previously at Navy and brought the triple option with him. They threw only one pass for an interception. Dwyer was basically playing fullback in the option and like Navy they had success running the ball, but even though Dwyer was player of the game with 145 yds and 2 td’s, he was largely untouched on td romps due to poor play by FSU defense. He does have a second gear, but he looks like a very good fullback to me vs. RB. Again, like Navy, I think his rushing stats are grossly inflated due to the option which won’t play in the NFL. I have the same concerns about him as I do with a QB with inflated stats due to spread offense, like Graham Harrell.
I don't know why anyone thinks our line is good
Locklear sucks ass. Gandy is ten times better so is Adam Terry. Our entire line needs to be reworked.
This line is a rag tag bunch of losers who Ruskell thinks can be molded into greatness.
Get your head out of the clouds, Locklear is not the answer at LT.
This is how the draft should go, at least with the first four picks.
1. DT
2. QB
3. RB
4. OT
"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"
McNeil, Barron and Roos are
some put Roos in with the best in the game. The fans seem to think Heyer’s done a good job, just thought Zorn’s decision to put him over Jansen was questionable. And they have other issues so maybe it’s just overlooked. Barron, if he could not false start, is good.
It’s unllikley most of these guys will be available, though. The chronology of the off-season allows us to first assess the current personnel, then free agency and then the draft. Each affects the rest downstream. Plus we have to see whether Ruskell is retained.
We need a tackle, if not two, plain and simple. Who starts can shake out in training camp.
by jacobstevens on Nov 30, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Winston Justice just got re-signed to a multi-year deal
Commentators seem to be hung up on Roos. Only other name I’d like on there is Jared Gaither
3 good choices
I think the Seahawks offense is in for some rough seasons ahead. Optimistically, I think it will take 3 offseasons of work to restock it, assuming the job is done competently. I would plan around free agents that could still be helpful in 3-4 years because of that. For this reason, I’d pass on all 3 of those guys.
However, short term, any of those three would be very good signings for the Seahawks.
by kearly on Nov 27, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I have to respectfully disagree
With a playmaker like Spiller adding a new dimension, I think our offense can be potent as is. Poor O-line play and Hasselbecks arm strength, along with no real home run hitter that can turn a draw, swing pass, quick slant or screen into a 60 yd TD. I think we can play around Hasselbecks arm if we fix the other two.
Delusional
This offensive line is not the future of this Seahawks offense, neither is Jim Mora or Greg Knapp.
"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"
I didn't know that?
I thought they have been our head coach and OC since 95. Sheesh
"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"
The way I read the sentence
is that Mora and Knapp don’t look like long term fixtures in Seattle. I’d tend to agree, even though I like Knapp and don’t have a problem with Mora.
I don't think we can play around Hasselbeck's arm
Teams can’t win almost at all without an above average QB in the current NFL. That isn’t Hasselbeck anymore. A new QB will take time to acclimate. 3 years is optimistic, because it assumes we find that franchise prospect on the first try. Further, the OL is in turmoil, can’t stay healthy, and has a lot of talent that isn’t optimal for a Gibbs style ZBS. I think it will probably take a few years for the OL to be good enough too. And that’s assuming these things are handled competently and the team avoids bad luck.
Other than Carlson and Forsett, the skill positions need an overhaul as well. This draft lacks playmakers and the few available probably should be avoided (I like Spiller, but no <200 carry RB is worth a 1st round pick).
Then you consider how much of the defensive talent isn’t suited for Bradley’s Tampa 2, and you are looking at a fairly massive overhaul the next several years.
we can't have a little sarcasm?
Knapp’s play calling isn’t good in my opinion. I am not on a fire everyone band wagon. I say fire Ruskell because we need change in the FO, I say fire Mora because he isn’t a head coach period.
I didn’t like the announcement of Mora taking over for Holmgren when it was announced and I don’t like it now.
This team is heading in a bad direction right now and I don’t believe in Knapp, Mora or Ruskell’s abilities to lead this team to greatness.
That’s how I feel. I am very passionate about the Hawks. I didn’t grow up having much else than the hope of the Sonics and the Seahawks, now the Sonics are gone and the Seahawks are all I have left.
"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"
Explain your disgust with Mora.
Aside from occasional emotional outbursts and maybe a lack of cordiality with refs.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
I know the question is how I'd target in FA
But I really, really want one thing to happen before the draft: The Seahawks to trade for Robert Gallery.
I know, I know. It’s not likely to happen. But I think it makes sense: He’s entering the prime of his career, and at LG, with the familiarity in Greg Knapp’s offense, he’d really prove to be an anchor for a young O-line. The Seahawks would have options heading into the draft: Draft a LT, QB, or DT.
That said, if I were to make a move in FA, it would not be for any of the players that you have listed. I’d want Jahri Evans or Logan Mankins, if neither are franchised. They’ll be expensive, but definitely well worth the price. However, I’m not sure I would advocate acquiring either of them unless Walter Jones retires and/or Kerney’s contract is reworked. This would really free up cap space for the Seahawks significantly.
As for someone who is not expensive, but would most likely fit in Knapp’s offense, provided he’s moved inside to OG, I’d want Daryn Colledge, who’s like the poor man version of Robert Gallery.
Defensively, the only person that I’d want to take a look at is Elvis Dumervil.
(By now, people might have noticed that I’m opting for young players). At this point, I think that about sums up my wishlist.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
who* I'd target...
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Nov 28, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
That's funny.
I was just pondering that yesterday as I watched the Raiders game on DVR. Gallery could be a beast, but I can’t honestly tell how good he is, or how he’d fit. Trading for players before their rookie contract expires rarely happens, but it’s happened once already this year when Gaines Adams went to the Bears from Tampa for a 2nd round pick. A 2nd rounder would be a high price to pay when Ruskell thinks he can find a Guard in rounds 3-7…heh.
He had his best year under Knapp as a LG. He was beastly.
He was a miserable failure as a LT, but as RT and as a LG, he more than holds his own. I believe that he’d be a good fit for Seattle.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Nov 28, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Is Dumervil going to be a free agent?
Can’t see the Broncos allowing him to walk free if he is
Yep, he will be.
I could see him being franchised, even. That said, I think he’ll want to get paid, so if the Broncos don’t franchise him, he could just go to the highest bidder.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Nov 29, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't want him anyway...
It’s just a continuation of this whole Winstrom/Kerney thing.
We need to stop signing aging-near-the-end outside pass rushers. (Black or white.) I’m concerned about the age factor and want us to develop one of these guys ourselves and get him for his peak years, not his faltering receding years.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
Tired of having expensive cast-offs, even though Kerney more than produced in 2007
Same
This goes for Richard Seymour too. There’s a reason the Pats looked to get rid of him and it wasn’t only the ridiculous price the Raiders paid. He’s too expensive with a diminishing skillset. Sure he makes the Raiders better, but it’s the Raiders
by Thomas Beekers on Nov 29, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions
I think John has sold me on Jason Campbell.
I already liked him, I just never considered that the Seahawks might make a move for him, or that he could be available. I love Matt, but I think if we have a chance to get a guy who could be a solid starter for the next 4-5 years, I think we need to take it. Not to mention that Aaron Schatz of football outsiders recently said that they believe at football outsiders that Campbell is going to shock a lot of people next year when he gets away from that mess in D.C and proves that he’s a good QB. Not only that, but if Holmgren ends up going somewhere else, Matt might have high trade value to whichever team he lands at.
So if I could map out our offseason, I think it would involve signing Campbell, trading Matt to Holmgrens new team for at least a 3rd round pick in next years draft. Then we could use our picks to focus on the O and D line, S and RB.
by Mind of no mind on Nov 30, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions
I have not personally scouted Campbell
but wouldnt be excited nor upset if they got him, as long as they got him for realistic value, not for a 1st rounder…
I dont believe Matt has any trade value after this year, I dont think Holmgren would start somewhere new by bringing in the old. If Matt finishes strong, maybe, but no way he’d garner a 3rd rounder.
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