Steelers at Broncos Open Thread
by John Morgan on Nov 9, 2009 5:29 PM PST
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PrintKyle Orton is in the midst of a career season. Many predicted Orton would improve behind a better line and in a more modern system, but few thought he would improve so much. So maybe he hasn't.
Football fans know of Derek Anderson and Rex Grossman. Both quarterbacks experienced amazing career seasons that were not preceded by success and that were not followed by success.
Grossman was the most likely success of the three. He was drafted in the first round, had a 61% completion percentage in college (a 54.6% completion percentage in 2006) and that one tool that can make any quarterback great for a snap: an awesome deep pass.
Anderson was the surest to fail. He was a tools prospect that played poorly in college. He had a better completion percentage in 2007 than any of his four years at Oregon State. His rise coincided with major additions to the offensive line and run game. Anderson could not beat out Charlie Frye in the preseason, but was so entrusted to retain his ability that Cleveland guaranteed him $14.5 million over three seasons and $24 million overall.
Orton isn't too far from his norms. His completion percentage today is higher than he ever finished at Purdue and will likely drop. The system Josh McDaniels has implemented inflates completion percentage. In that light, Orton's spike is not unsustainable. His interception rate is. Orton has one interception in 231 attempts. Before Grossman and Anderson failed, they sagged in the second half. Grossman was eaten alive by sacks and fumbles. Anderson's yards disappeared when teams dropped into deep cover. He lacked the accuracy to succeed underneath. Orton will get his by way of interceptions.
Tonight marks the midway point for Orton. He faces the Pittsburgh Steelers. Seahawks fans have been horrified to see Neckbeard turn a corner and seemingly become a franchise quarterback for the Broncos. Maybe he has, but I doubt it. You don't root for the Sarlacc Pit and I won't root for the Steelers tonight. Maybe it's in bad spirit, but I do root for truth to pop the bubble of sudden, undeserving stars. It's in that spirit that I do not root against the Broncos or for the Steelers, but only for the inevitable. May truth find Orton tonight. May it find him three or four times.
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You have to know though John...
That when you conjugate adverbs on national television…. it’s gotta get ugly
Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.
Normally choosing between a donkey and a Stealer would be tough....
But I think the consolation prize in this case tips the scales towards Pitt.
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John... would you rather have...
Top and bottom of the round bookend picks?….. or
2 mid rounders?
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In this draft..
that’s hard because the quarterbacks haven’t been vetted. I guess I would say 1st and 32nd because Suh looks stand-apart good.
I agree...
This year looks different than last year in that there DOES appear to be a decent top 3 or 4 picks that are worthy of a high selection.
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Is there a standout OT?
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Not in our system I wouldn't think...
The guy from Iowa appears to be a great fit in a ZBS but most have him outside the top 5-6 picks.
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As a OG or OT? He's 290lbs right now. Great player.
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
At 6’2", he doesn’t have the frame to be an OT.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
As for the QB's...
I personally would pass on them all in the top 4 picks at this point.
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I feel like
If Bronco’s lose tonight, especially if they get their ass kicked, they will go into a steep dive for the rest of the season.
And lack of oxygen
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Is Orton good or is it the scheme?
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply actions
Ahh talent. I like talent.
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
That was a throw begging to be picked
And Polomalu knocked William Gay out of an INT.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
The pressure was in his face for 5 seconds.
And he just stood there still trying to throw it.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
I heard he's supposed to be good at evading sacks.
Sarcasm.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
How much pressure can there be when there's 5 guys in coverage?
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Royal....back the fuck away.
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions
Wait, who do we root for here? A sinkhole?
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:57 PM PST reply actions
17-0, this is looking good!
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
I wish the run would stop Seahawking the slant.
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lawd.
Child please...
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Nov 9, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry about that gif
Message received.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
was that sposed to make sense??
And all the land was in ruin, and burnination had forsaken the countryside.
Did anybody else notice how we gained yards in chunks on the quick hitters up the middle....
and were strung out along the sidelines on sweeps?
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Are the pulling OL not in good position on these?
It appears as though Jones is patient enough.
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It's a pretty drastic shift from what Holmgren was doing
and some of these guys are ideal for the system. Some guys are learning and some guys are playing against the grain of what they do.
Actually... I'd love to see a post about this...
Could be some good X’s and O’s as well as an enlightenment about why it fails?
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The danger of coaches in the booth is...
we learn that these people we trust are superstitious and illogical.
We wouldn't regress to 1992
But we would’ve scored 1992 points against the Lions.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
I can't stand McDaniels.
Most punchable active coach. Lock it in.
And all the land was in ruin, and burnination had forsaken the countryside.
He had a nice punt yesterday that actually stopped inside the 10.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Low scuds that roll through the end zone or 30 yard shanks will do that.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
They certainly seem to be less vile this year than the Broncos
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
New fun drinking game for those of you who can do so with impunity.
Place your beer to your lips and chug for every second Roethlisberger spends in the pocket.
One of my friends in college found a drinking game on college humor involving baseball.
He’d watch Cubs games while drinking Bud Lite. Every event in the game causes a certain number of shots of beer except walks and wild pitches, which give you a pass on other events. No matter, because a 9 inning game routinely would take about 11-12 cans.
That's not "snobbery".
It’s a comment on how I can’t chug something that heavy.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Ah..... not you my friend...
Moose Drool is often met with distain in this community.
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Actually, I know this cause I was chastised once for mentioning "The Drool"
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There is some definite beer snobbery here.
But I can enjoy many beers across the board. I just like what I like, I guess.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
While that may be true, Northwestern is in Chicago.
The bball team is the answer to the trivia question “Which major conference team has never made the NCAA tournament?”
Multiple aging veterans.
Good for a year but not long term by any means. They’ve been lucky with injuries as well.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
It is just me (and my pessimism)
or do these teams bring intensity we just haven’t seen here in Seattle in a while?
It is what it is...
Honestly.
I think Seattle the last couple games has shown some big hits and fire. Like John said though, it’s all subjective.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
Its all relative
I notice the same thing. I think it has something to do with my personal state of being when watching. I am always amped for Hawks games so the play matches my attitude, whereas I am super relaxed right now, so it seems more intense.
I think I just pooped your pants...
You were saying John.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
Saturday I was watching Bama
and the commentators broke into laughter talking about a guy’s stubby arms. It was kind of sad really. He must look in the mirror and cry.
Listen to all those cheers.
That makes me dislike both the Steelers and Broncos even more.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
I finally saw the Best injury.
Straight out of a neurology lecture. Scary stuff.
It was like a freaking Tony Jaa movie
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
David Ruskell should have hired McDaniels...
OK that was low…
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by iverson2169 on Nov 9, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
exactly...
It was from a thread yesterday…. sorry for the obscure reference.
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Some commenter in the post-game thread mentioned our GM being David Ruskell
Must have been Brian Billick making a cameo.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Low but rec'd anyway.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
FOX has decided we either get
Falcons @ Panthers or Saints @ Rams as our early morning game.
I choose option #2 just because it’s the Saints.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Eh
Ok, envision a 4-2 nickel.
At the snap, first both linebackers drop back straight.
Then, after they have dropped five yards, the right one runs left and the left one runs right.
Yes
it also increases the likelihood of an interception and gives the player a running start towards where they are running. Versus being standstill like Seattle.
Because Hasselbeck can't throw 40 yard outs?
I give up… what’s the answer.
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I've got a stack of rejected pricing from Adidas on my desk... sorry for the dig John.
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The arguably 3rd-best QB drafted in '09 looked like a player yesterday.
I watched Freeman quite a bit. A lot to like for a first start.
Since I wasn't near a computer last night, how big a stink did you guys make over the ridiculous challenge outcome in last night's game?
That was an atrocity. If I were Andy Reid, I’d burn a zebra in effigy during a press conference.
Reid has to be the worst game-manager in football.
Wasted timeouts, stupid challenges. It was atrocious.
That was also horrible.
They could have matched the film up with the decal on the field and gotten it correct. Chose not to.
And Reid should have learned from the first spot challenge.
The refs basically said, screw you on any ball-spot challenges on the first one: Play stands as called. Then, Reid went to the well again.
Looked correct to me
I’m not sure where the first down marker was, but when they spotted the ball after the challenge, it looked like it was the same spot where McNabb ended up.
Tom Jackson loves it too.
“That was a great football play.” Thanks, Tom.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Not as bad as Rod Woodson saying:
“in The National Football league” before, during, and after everything.
Drove me fucking crazy.
Four goddamn times: “That guy is a football player!” Well thanks, Gruden, I was wondering why he was standing on the gridiron with a helmet on. This explains so much….
If you haven't had a Honeycrisp apple yet, have one.
Washington needs to plot a comeback, because Michigan is now king.
I feel like Benedict Arnold with each bite but my goodness is it worth it.
A better mix of sweet and tart than a Fuji and more snap than a Gala.
Yeah they're good
I envision the Honeycrisp trees growing like cordyceps from the vacated factories.
Try a jonamac apple they are better than fuji's, Gala's and Honeycrisps...
I ROCK out with my HAWK out, therefore I am....
Not just any football player
A dominant, NFL football player.
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
That's interesting too
because Keisel did kick ass at Mile High. I guess Jaws just messed up the delivery.
Two sacks at Denver in the AFC Championship game.
Jaws could have just said: “Denver fans remember how good Brett Keisel. Two sacks in the 2005 AFC Championship game. Football Player.”
these facts are nice and all but it doesn't change the truth
that it was before he became a football player
I had to look at our 21-0 loss in 2007
He had 1 tackle in that. It has to be the Denver game.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Which makes sense
I bet the assistant that researched that little factoid is SO pissed off right now.
Joseph "Live and Let" Addai.
Really, Berman? Really?
The Cedric "George" Benson one where he mentions the song "On Broadway"
was pitiful.
And that’s not even his best song anyway.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
It's not like his little nicknames are clever or add anything. Here, I'll spit out a couple and see how much respect you lose for me.
Kyle Orton Hears a Who. Knowshon The Few, The Proud, The Moreno. Brett Hey Jeff Reed You’re Too Drunk So Hand Over The Keisel. Hey look I’m Chris Berman. Whoooop! Rumblin’ bumblin’ stumblin’.
by abender20 on Nov 9, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's nothing worse than a shtick that is both tired and painfully unfunny.
Just ask Larry the Cable Guy.
Had a chance to watch OSU/PSU on Saturday.
OSU’s Cameron Heyward is a MAN.
I saw Kamoeatu play live in his college days at Utah
With Alex Smith starting against UNLV in Vegas.
Kamoeatu got ejected for stomping on a player. That hurt. A lot.
UNLV still got destroyed 28-10.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Those Broncos receivers are instructed to get up and act like they are going to run
Huh. Wonder if that bluffs in case they dropped it.
On fantasy and I want to know
For some reason we want to share it with everybody—why is that? It mus the something. It’s like boasting I guess.
John... if you cant share the nature of your panties with fellow Hawk fans....
Then Who?
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The Frank Reynolds special, apparently.
A Coors Light with a few tabs of acid in it.
How weird that Pittsburgh just up and has
a ridiculous scoring drive.
And all the land was in ruin, and burnination had forsaken the countryside.
He was pretty pathetic against SD earlier this year
Which doesn’t have a great DL.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Nah Hitler was too eccentric...
I’m thinking more conventional… like Mussolini.
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To answer the earlier question:
Because it makes me feel happy when my (fantasy) player get touchdowns. Sharing it is simply a reaction to a feeling.
In other new, nice run Mendenhall. I still want one.
I'll bet you do, you filthy bastard.
by abender20 on Nov 9, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If we get Billick this week (all signs point to yes)
I’ll be having “fun” with sugar huddle and Kurt Leinart….and Karlos Dansbury….and Josh Grant.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Also a fun drinking game would be to do shots for each pump fake.
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Menenhall is very fast for his size.
I can only hope Dwyer is similarly fast, but I don’t think so. I’m still bitter we didn’t draft either him or JStew.
Well, I wanted us to trade up for JStew...
And, I should check out Dictionary.com before using big words… ;)
It's not the word choice, it's the logic
either player would be a nice addition, but Seattle didn’t have the chance and neither is worth what Seattle would have needed to trade to have the chance.
Logan you idiot
You stutter step and run SIDEWAYS like Burleson does while holding onto the ball rather dangerously! LEARN!
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Want the Steelers to win
but Ben to die, and while both are likely within the next hour, it’s still too close to call.
That makes more sense.
I thought you made a clever joke.
abender20 hates freedom.
by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
What do people love more then comedy?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 9, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
How do you keep an idiot in suspense?!?!?!
You ask him what people love more than comedy…. and then NOT tell him….. arrrrgh
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Ready for it?
Dicktowel.com!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 9, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Are you getting MW2?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 9, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Planning on it
Although I tossed in the first one the other night and sucked it up pretty good. That game can make me angry.
Meh
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2010238903_hawk10.html
Use Forsett more.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Question
How does Dez Bryant remain suspended and the oregon RB get reinstated?
abender20 hates freedom.
How does Spikes only get suspended one game?
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
Dez fucked with the NCAA, you don't fuck with the NCAA
Blount was suspended by his school/conference.
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
pile drive that shark
The Shark is Dez and the guy is the NCAA.
"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"
I really did...
Ok technically, it was a moderate chuckle…. but my point stands
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Sure nice to see Orton play like Orton for a change
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
Fucka you Dolphin!
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
Fucka you Whale!
I hadn’t watched SP for a while and that one really got me laughing.
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Hahahaha Orton
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions
This made me laugh.
I can just picture some guy surrounded by Broncos fans waving two towels..“Whoooo!! Go Steelers!!!”
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Nice return, but a flag
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions
Here's Mitch Berger to punt...and the punt is INTERCEPTED BY MEWELDE MOORE!!!!
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
After the interception?
Okaaaay. Shrooms?
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply actions
This is where you have to run the ball
never mind the first three and a half quarters leading up to this
Tampa Bay beat Green Bay
Anything can happen.
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
I hate how Keary Colbert's Wikipedia picture
Is the one when he was a Seahawk.
He couldn’t catch syphilis from the dirtiest hooker in the world.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
Almost as good as the two kicker play
Lets get Schmitt Faced!
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 9, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
I don't understand Clark's condition
He can’t play in altitude but he’s allowed to hang out on the sidelines?
Exertion + low altitude = clumping red blood cells
"Its not that I can't read and write, its just that I don't like to read and write."
-Charlie
Totally apathetic about this game.
Glad we had our draft position helped.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
They forgot El-ahrairah, for what use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?
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