Monday Night Football - Open Thread
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2009 5:14 PM PST
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PrintArizona travels to San Francisco to play a division rival fighting for its playoff life. I cribbed that line from Mike Tirico. Expect him to say it about fifteen times tonight. Brian Burke projects this as a pick`em, with Arizona's small advantage as a team being negated by San Francisco's home field advantage. Making an intelligent prediction about one NFL game is foolish, but here's my stab at foolishness: Arizona's defense is coming on late. The Cardinals lean on their talented secondary and establish a dominating in-the-box presence. It has dominated teams that build their offense off the run game and struggled against accurate passers. Alex Smith has shown flashes of accuracy. He has shown flashes of the panicky kid that could lose a game by himself. Smith could break out or break.
I think Smith finds open targets and passes for 300 yards. I also think he suffers some bad sacks and fumbles his team out of the game. We'll see. My reverse curse has been crushing recently.
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49ers lose by 10+
The defeat last week was a crushing one, and I think they’re due for a big loss at home. The fight hard for a quarter and a half, and Warner wakes up and lights them up.
Cards 30 – SF 13
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
and even if they draft Suh
at 33 there should be a raft of potential signal callers to choose from
Arizona will make the Super Bowl if the Saints don't.
And actually I think they possibly win it considering Arizona’s pass offense vs. Indy’s secondary.
ME! BANE!
Hopefully Leinart can learn something warming his ass on the bench
Watching Warner destroy everyone.
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Warner = ageless wonder
apparently ‘quick release’ ages well. See also Brett Favre
that's also remarkable considering...
he has to be the least mobile qb in the league
So does, apparently, the ability to convince opponents to blitz
when it’s the worst possible tactic. I would love to see a talented team drop coverage against Warner. Oh wait: The Colts did that and he struggled.
Warner lacks arm strength, and so like most quarterbacks that lack arm strength
he is weak against tight cover.
I think it will be a close game
16-13 cards
For the occasion, The Bruery Saison Rue.
I’m liking.
Much different than you'd expect.
Despite all the alveoli, it’s smooth on the outside. Not all that dissimilar from a liver, really. All the magic happens on the inside.
I can't believe Mora threw more knives today.
What an ass.
We already tried that experiment.
He went from 2007’s secondary that went 6-7 weeks in a row not allowing a TD pass to dead last in 2008 to still sucky in 2009.
Maybe defensive assistant?
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Gruden thinks the 49ers should use smashmouth football
Against a fantastic run D with the 49ers’ piece of garbage offensive line.
That should end well.
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come to think of it
That was supposed to be the 9rs game… but I think they abandoned it after about week 3
No man that entire area means a lot to me
I’ve got parts of the Bay Area they can destroy though.
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Oakland is a wreck
There are some great places in Oakland however. Still love Chinatown.
The human mind is a fascinating thing. I remember the street names, addresses and landmarks from when I was 6 years old and yet I can barely remember the address of the Alderwood Mall in Lynnwood.
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It's getting to the point that I can't turn ESPN on unless the game is already in progress.
The amount of peri-game bullshit is stifling.
We're in pre-school again
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for Office Space reference
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
I have to admit...
I like John Gruden… he should talk more
Just wait till he's the Seahawk coach
you’ll get to hear him talk three times a week!!
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
THIS GUY HERE IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER!
HE LOVES THE GAME OF FOOTBALL LIKE NO OTHER! HE JUST LIKES FOOTBALL AND HAS THE GENERALSHIP OF A FOOTBALL PLAYER!
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Well you see
Blah blah blah blah blah and right here he’s going to blah blah Draws on screen blah and BOOM! There you have it.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Supposed to be -draws on screen-
…Damn.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I swear Tirico just said "Frank Gore at fullback leading the way for Gore..."
Only Nick Reed can do that.
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I thought the same thing.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the misdirection.
I was never a fan of Dexter’s Lab. It was a kind of Family Guy to Pinkie and the Brain’s the Simpsons for me.
Hey San Francisco burned a timeout losing its challenge
I’m amazed they still had TOs to use.
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I'm not sure where you're coming from, but okay.
by aerozeppelin on Dec 14, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm saying even giving them playoff hopes tonight
Arizona plays Detroit and St. Louis next while the 49ers play at Philly. They know hope isn’t there.
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"Take a look at this Jaws.."
Long awkward pause ..Well we didn’t get that one
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions
God damnit
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
The best part
is how I messed it up last time, thought I fixed it, then failed again.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Gore!
why did he cut inside… ? he could’ve had 6
I fear you are not talking about football.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
I just cringed
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
I like potatoes.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
yes but...
the sideline was closing fast… and it hits hard
Last week Singletary blew all of his TOs in 1 quarter
This week it’s his challenges. Oh well this 2nd challenge was worth it.
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if he wins... and he will
does he get a challenge back?
You have to get the first two challenges correct to get a third one.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Oh god Boger just said Singletary is out of challenges for the rest of the half.
GAME YOU IDIOT!! GAME!
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This is a thing I know
Teams get two challenges in the first half, two challenges in the second half.
Where does that come from?
Buffalo Wild Wings.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe you are thinking timeouts
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
But that's 3 and 3.
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by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
I know
He was probably thinking timeouts and just got them confused.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
It's funny how they talk about teams under Whisenhunt winning when they win the turnover battle and losing when they lose it.
That would go for just about any team I believe.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
Did you know that teams who score more than their opponent win the game?
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
Now see what Arizona wants to do right now is get it in the end zone.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
But...evrybody told me Arizona's running game was great now.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
My bad.
I just heard it, heard it was Wells.
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by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Assumed they ran it.
Still a runningback.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Disregard everything I've said above.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
I remember when Shaun was doing that
And the announcers always say “He’s running hard out there.”
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Now they say it was an attitude run.
To smash them in the face. I though he was gonna fumble too actually.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
I am curious what they say in those circles.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Coors Light
They need a can/bottle/glass that tells you when the beer tastes like ass.
by jeager on Dec 14, 2009 6:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I think it's a catch.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions
somebody caught it
what if zona challenged it and the ruling was INT for 49rs?
What's the discussion?
Catch, down, with contact.
Hahahahaha
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 6:35 PM PST reply actions
Looked like a catch to me.
But it’s tough to know all the rules for it.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
I get the feeling Arizona's going to take the lead very soon.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
And now I feel like an idiot.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry for the non-sequitur comment here....
but for anyone EVER wondering why John disallows unconfirmed trade speculation…. feast your eyes on this debacle of a post over at Lookout Landing. It’s about the trade that appears to be bringing Lee to the Mariners. Shield your eyes if you are squeamish around “out of control” threads.
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/12/14/1200700/thinking-about-the-possible-trade
Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.
But that's not a made-up rumor.
It seems 90% done.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
But yeah, it is insane over there.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
true
ESPN just broke away to report on it… I’m pretty sure it’s legit
as legit as a rumor can be
I guess I should say
I mean unconfirmed as to who was involved...
What a mad house… At any rate, this TOTALLY validates John’s standing moratorium.
Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.
Ah ok.... this is actually a good lesson then.
Is what is happening over there ok then?
Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.
If a trade is reported between Seattle and two other teams
and we have a good idea who the players involved might be, it would be ok to guess and evaluate the potential moves.
Thanks for the clarification...
I guess we learn something new everyday.
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Same thing happened last year when Putz got dealt.
There were some names that had a very good chance to be dealt because of multiple reports from various media outlets.
And we have a group of names that are most likely.
So not a complete guessing game.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Precisely.
Some of Aumont/Triunfel/Morrow/Gilles/Ramirez/Saunders are going to be dealt.
I saw you over there Brian... looks like you made it out.
I mean who was involved is still speculation.
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Whats happening over at LL is not anything like what isn't allowed over here
Thats excitement and speculation over a soon to happen trade. Rosterbation like saying we should trade Seneca and Branch for Kolb is whats not allowed here or at LL.
Also J/M/G and Dave are extremely intelligent and well connected.
Didn't we try that once.?
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
When I was on er....extended leave
I had no idea he was banned until I asked you. Hadn’t seen him in a long time.
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Guy confused me
It’s so easy to hide your IP and sign up for another account, for all I know, he’s back with a new name.
It's nice to see Gore do that to other teams.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
I'll bet you kick ass at crosswords...
I love pounding out crosswords on business trips.
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Fantastic...
The economy actually helps the big guys. Adidas and Nike dont trust the sustainability of small factories.
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Good to hear
My wife is the scourge of your industry. She buys everything by the pound from Goodwill.
Nah... there's always a market for commodity buying and selling...
Nothing wrong with that at all.
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Well I guess that ends the Jake Locker talk...
Just read that he is staying at UW.
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Russ Grimm right now vs. Patrick Kerney
I got Grimm blocking Kerney out of the play every time.
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Battle looks like he's on the Gore workout plan.
He’s a lot more stocky than he was in college.
Three episodes and then cancelled.
Four seasons if aired on FOX.
Vernon Davis has bad hands.
FF was right about something.
In fact, if he said he was banned
he would magically become unbanned. Then, when he tried to log in, that action would ban him again.
That's uncalled for...
Seasonings from the far east should be left out of this.
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Except he doesn't.
He hates, he doesn’t root.
We've only seen him in one arena.
He could be 480 pounds and hate food.
I once spent two days
Banning guys from 4Chan and another troll site for invading a sports wikia.
One of my articles got vandalized and replaced with a cartoon photo of a nude Hitler with an erection.
ME! BANE!
That could be a really cool Internet reality show...
Hunting down rogue trolls…
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Yeah you know.... with that guy that does the deep guttural voice overs?
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We have the worst defense in the NFL
And he’s totally in the tank for Holmgren coming back as GM, citing he built a Super Bowl offense which Ruskell ruined.
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something tells me...
Warner won’t break 120 for a passer rating for the 5th straight game…
Van Gogh started late
I’m already way ahead of him at this age. Think this writing thing is just holding me back.
On a positive note...
Van Gogh drank himself silly at regular intervals…
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No no.... that what we WANT them to think.
Going down 17-0 every other week is all part of the master plan… you know? The ole’ false sense of security trick.
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Yeah, but our future awesome QB we draft (one of these years) would have a hell of a target
In his prime
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
He just wants other teams to think that.
So he can go on a magical Playoff run again.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Sadly if we go 6-10 we won't get the chance in all likelihood.
I would like to see what he could do with a professional QB. He hasn’t had that since Garcia.
ME! BANE!
I think coaches are more obvious when things break down
but that most coaches make the same mistakes, are of comparable quality.
T.O tore him apart and he was never the same
Then he had to try and develop JaMarcus Russell. I sympathize with him.
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Australians are more Alaska than Texas
In my experience anyway.
by DJ C-Raig on Dec 14, 2009 9:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Canada gave us Mad Cow Disease or something like that
All of those diseases like to descend upon us for some reason. I think they like us.
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I find that response ironic because
in seriousness Canada is to America like Oz is to England.
The Oz watch English tv, read about English celebs, use english slang, and follow English sports (plus footie) etc. Canadians watch American sports, read about American celebs, use American slang and follow American sports (plus hockey).
Canada is a mooch
we should levy a friend tax on them
Holmgren's reactions to losing were funny
It was just funny staredowns while his face reddens.
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In some ways, this game alone sucks more for Cardinals fans
than this entire season has sucked for Seahawks fans.
Yeah, but how about
Looking like a contender for most of the season and then getting humiliated by your, rather crappy, division rival and losing your irreplaceable best player?
And to think
Houston could’ve won that game at Arizona despite being 21-0 down. Then Schaub lofted a short pass that was read by the DB for an INT for a TD. That last sentence seems familiar.
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why in the world did zona draft early doucet?
as if they didn’t have enough receivers
It's for the fans, the fans can't hear that but they can see a spiked ball
and as we all know football fans are real sensitive people
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Is it only me or does it seem funny to other people that
they delay the game for ages to call a delay of game penalty on something that takes 10 seconds?
I'm tipping off of less than a 750.
I’m in trouble for pre-winter break party on Thursday.
Some teams have shown an ability to do it over a short period of time
but it doesn’t seem like something that can be done consistently.
Nice effort by Wells
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions
Tapped in the market most willing to go see a movie multiple times in the theater
Women. I can’t stand to watch a movie more than once a year but my ex would go see movies multiple times if she liked it.
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
If it wasn't a chick flick, it may have been.
For some reason, women love watching the same movie several times in rapid succession, thus inflating their box office figures. (See: Moon, New)
I've never heard that cuts across gender lines
I think highly successful movies like Titanic enjoy a high reviewing rate from both sexes.
Yeah I'm not seeing it.
I said Star Wars because guy movies get watched over and over as well.
wow
Adrian Wilson ran a great route… shoul’ve caught it though
I heard he likes potatoes.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, but the raiders fans are the worst(*)
Everything to do with the raiders is terrible.
(*) I actually know no raiders fans, that was not a joke about raiders fans, it was about the raiders.
Typical Raiders fan dialogue..
“This is our year!!! Yeah man we got Heyward-Bey!”
For 2010, Insert first round prospect who runs a sub 4.3 40.
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by Pessimistic Optimist on Dec 14, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
You've obviousely never met a Packers fan
hands down THE worst
Why don't backs put that ball up toward their peck like Shaun
by Joshua Kasparek on Dec 14, 2009 8:21 PM PST reply actions
Because one thing follows another
It starts with the holding the ball then diving into piles then falling down on the turf untouched.
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I'm convinced that I would fumble on every single down if I were an RB.
And die.
by abender20 on Dec 14, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would be an expert at one route.
Break off the line back toward the QB, then make a beeline for the sideline. If he throws it, I knock it down.
just the possibility scares me
give me 5 yards to the sideline… I can MAKE it!
I would wear twice the pads
This would also make me appear a lot larger. Although that might make my arms approach Lofa Tatupu status circa 2009 thus making a catch highly unlikely.
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
is it pro rules or college rules
if college rules I just put a knee down…
I'd probably play safety
I’m not fast so I can’t cover anyone one-on-one but I’m into the cerebral side of the game.
I’ve never gotten an interception but that won’t stop me.
Otherwise I have great catching abilities and would play possession receiver.
ME! BANE!
Favorite route is faking the slant and then quickly cutting to the outside in time
For the ball to be thrown my way.
I once caught a Hail Mary TD out of sheer luck. I bobbled it but caught it and it was 4th down.
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Well then, if that's the standard
I took the snap, scrambled twenty yards and stiff armed a bitch. I’ma football god.
I just want to see him start Teel
But I bet Hass finishes the season for some reason
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
When the Texans fumbled the snap
Deep in our territory he had a wide open Kevin Walter. You know who blew that play? Kelly Jennings.
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Holy crap this is an annihilation
And then the Niners will get blown out by the Eagles next week.
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Say what you want about the guys in the booth
but they’re passionate about football and seem to legitimately like each other. I really enjoy listening to them even if it means putting up with the “National Football League” and “this guy is a football player”.
I can see that being annoying
but to me they’re yelling about football and thats ok by me. Like John said, they’re a bunch of goofs.
I never get that, I mean I see what Ramsay has against Ainsley (sp?)
But Jamie and Ramsay preach the same stuff.
How come the 49ers are rushing Warner
He can’t be beat by the blitz. The only way to defend him is to drop 8 guys into coverage and rush 3. Ha.
The hell you say
blitzing is the only way to sack a quarterback. You have to throw your blitz flag before the snap.
Maybe the on the road thing is something that this P***Y generation of ball players can't deal with
by Joshua Kasparek on Dec 14, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions
Yeah! Even the Patriots last year could win a road game to save their lives!
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Guy walks into a bar with a frog on his head
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Bartender says what's that on your head sir?
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Frog says there's something on my head? Cause I got an awful growth on my ass.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the first guy should've set up the joke better.
You don’t start with the punchline.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Bartender says
you’re an overrated pussy-ass bitch.
by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Bartender or the frog?
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Frogs can't win on the road
they always get run over
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 14, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like a good idea for a game.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Why is it that Arizona had no shot to win this and Seattle, save for two runs could of won that game?
by Joshua Kasparek on Dec 14, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions
To be fair,
If not for the 7 turnovers, Arizona could’ve won this.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Does Alex Smith make the final difference there?
by Joshua Kasparek on Dec 14, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions
But let's hope that the SF FO thinks he did.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
by Hopefulmsfan on Dec 14, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
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