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Monday Night Open Thread

I have a lot of book stuff to accomplish over the next week and so posting might be light and sporadic. The Seahawks have obliged by ending their season three weeks early and finishing their schedule with a slate of fantasy camps for fans. You see that bald bloke in a Hasselbeck jersey? Real Matt Hasselbeck could throw farther and faster from his knees, but what a fan! If I had been beat around, battered and humiliated like him, I would have dragged my corpse to the sideline and requested the kid in the Wallace jersey sub in. But Hasselbeck-guy would have none of that. He embraced his dream with foolish, almost quixotic enthusiasm. He didn't think twice about his own pride, the pride of the city of Seattle or the Seahawks franchise; was undeterred by the mocking laughter of the Green Bay Packers defenders, the Lambeau faithful and Seahawks fans across the world; He saw no reason to sit a snap for the good of the future. And Jim Mora, fat with fantasy bucks, concurred.

This is a game thread for tonight. Jay Cutler is completing as bad a season as about anyone could imagine. The Bears are bad and sacrificed their future to be so. But, deep down, I'm still a little jealous. And how sad is that? I would gladly sign and start Troy Smith. I would sign about anyone that could elevate Seattle's offense from the pit of backyard football. Seattle could start Seneca Wallace and see if Knapp has any smarts in his system. It could start Mike Teel and better understand his future and thus the team's future. It hasn't and it won't and as bad and barren and poorly run as the Bears are, they are better than Seattle this season, have a better coach, a better quarterback and a brighter future. So, boo, hiss and defame Jay Cutler if you will, because, deep down, we're jealous.

And how sad is that? Pretty fucking.

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Chicago's problem is a massive failure to surround a franchise QB with even moderately good talent

Never mind their piss-poor defense.

Seattle’s problem is a massive failure to admit their franchise QB sucks and there is not a ton of offensive talent overall, which puts a heavy burden on an okay defense.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

Yes,

this D has been put in an impossible situation, this season.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Dec 28, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Cutler nearly picked off on his first pass

And the Vikings calling 3 running plays.

Defenses on top so far.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been thinking, I'm going through the scenarios

After watching Roy Williams suck again last night I think Dallas would be the perfect place to trade Houshmandzadeh if he does want out.

I’d love to see a trade in which TJ goes to Dallas and we get Tashard Choice and a draft pick.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

Dallas might do Housh for Choice

You’re probably dreaming if you’re thinking a draft pick too.

by Nate Dogg on Dec 28, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Just tossing the suggestion out there

In my opinion, Dallas could be the best place for him because Romo is into the prime of his career.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Amen brother! Amen!

Jealous I am

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions  

Based on no data

I like the Bears for a big run in 2010. I’m hammered, so I apologize in advance for my opinionated comments and general assness.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone see "C'MON MAN?!" on Monday Night Countdown?

Matt Hasselbeck was featured twice. Once for the fumble against Tampa Bay and then again for the throw to AJ Hawk. I think that needed to be done.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

Remember earlier in the year when...

we were all getting sick over the fact that Fox or something had a ‘Favre Cam’ (all Favre, all the time) for the Viks-Packers game? Yeah, well I would watch video for a solid hour straight of Favre standing on the sideline with that awe-shucks look on his face with his team down 48-0 late in the 4th quarter…

by farmer cam on Dec 28, 2009 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

Brian Russell got released earlier last week

Well, placed on waivers to sign Ephraim Salaam.

Houston just lost another safety.

Guess who is likely coming back to play in a “Must-win” game?

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

He got sacked, the guy who sacked him held on to his leg for several seconds after the play

I think Hasselbeck kicked him as a “get off me” gesture, one of the o-linemen…I believe Locklear, started pushing and shoving and then Hasselbeck made it a fight.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching the Bears, I couldn't help but think about a certain "What-if"

What if the Broncos had traded the Bears’ first round pick to Seattle instead of their own? Two picks in the top 10. That would be franchise-fortifying.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Dec 28, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions  

In the short-term, it would've made that loss to the Bears hurt even more

But still top 18 (assuming Denver misses the playoffs) would be nice.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they'll make it.

Hard not to lose to the Chiefs.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Dec 28, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize that, but the odds are still in their favor.

Winning still helps their odds. A three-way tie between the Broncos, the Jets, and the Ravens puts the Broncos in.
I think both the Ravens and the Broncos will win this upcoming weekend.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Dec 28, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

FYI: All those "fans" clamoring for Zorn as OC

Redskins hate him. I was in D.C. for Christmas, and there is such disdain for his play calling; I was amazed. All I spoke to like him personally, but hate him as a play caller.

I am loathe to Mora as coach and Zorn as OC.

Someone please help me stop this nonsense.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

And to finish my rant

I am exhausted with the HC getting more than one year thing. Miami blew it up, and it worked out. GB and Philly did it; with the same guy!

There is no precedent that firing a first year coach makes people less likely to accept a position.

This is the NFL. There are only so many jobs.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. We'll, I'm not too drunk to have my brother in law

tell me that the game against the Giants looked different. Like Zorn was calling the plays again.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that came off shitty

play calling not good. Am enjoying my drink!

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish he would just come back and be QB coach again

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up as an assistant in Cleveland, though.

by DetectiveM on Dec 28, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Zorn is in over his head

And shouldn’t be near this position for the next few years.

The fans “clamoring” for Zorn as OC are the ones that just want SOMEONE from the most recent Holmgren days to be on the staff, or just looking to hire someone on the basis that they were Seahawks “legends” per se.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven't been watching this game...

how on earth did the Bears get 23 points?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 28, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

All offense, really?

didn’t think they could get 23 without a return TD in their somewhere.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 28, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't really like music during injury timeouts

At least it isn’t something like “Celebration”

by Gihyou on Dec 28, 2009 8:04 PM PST reply actions  

Or any timeouts, for that matter.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Dec 28, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

what a fun game

though it reminds me how bad our hawks are….

by m_b on Dec 28, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

Lovie is an imbecile

Try…TRY to take a shot down field and see what happens.

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

"People in Phoenix, and people in Arizona are staying up late tonight."

It’s what, 9:46 in Arizona? Come on Gruden…

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Kind of awkward to post in the middle of a game thread

but amen John to your intro. You are not the only one who is envious of the Bears normally unenvious situation. And yes, that is really, really sad.

by kearly on Dec 28, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Dec 28, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

Great tackle

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Dec 28, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

WOW

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Dec 28, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions  

Cutler to Housh could've been so dreamy.

Fine game of football,
I enjoyed watching Cutler succeed.
Really makes me jealous he’ll be a star in Chicago provided the talent is given to him.
Entertaining stuff at Soldier Field.
Much better than the crap at Lambeau Field.
Or the lame Sunday night effort by Washington.
Ready for the final week of our season.
Also, it could be, hopefully be, the final week of Matt’s career and Jim’s coaching tenure as a Seattle Seahawk.

SEA! HAWKS!

FIRE JIM MORA NOW!

by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Favre Retires

changes his mind, signs with Seattle

yea dude

by dirtyktm on Dec 29, 2009 4:17 AM PST reply actions  

No love lost if Spencer goes to Chicago

I am quite happy with Unger there and Vallos as backup .
  Also happy to take a 2nd from Chicago for him . Gives us 2 first and 2 seconds for new GM to play with

by IDAHOPUMA on Dec 29, 2009 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

Spencer vs Unger

Considering the comparison is fairly close between the two until you see it a comparison between a 5 year veteran first 1st to a rookie 2nd rounder ( or was he third ? )

  Spencer is good , but I do not think he is first round pay or play good is all . Same for Branch . He is good but not worth gamebreaker money . Imagine trading either for late second or early 3rd for the 6’6" QB from Cincinnati ? ( pending evaluation , know little about )

by IDAHOPUMA on Dec 29, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Starters for Titan game

Basically more of a pre-season or evaluation game anyway . I have seen enough of Branch and no need busting up Matt further .
Put Teel in QB and Butler , Housh , Seneca at WR . Let the fans and coaches see these guys as well before a long off season .
  One thing about Seneca full time at #3 WR is see him run routes regularly , he knows what a QB is looking for in a target and a Senecat can emerge at anytime . It would be fun .

Oh , heaven forbid both Seneca and Teel get hurt in the final game of the year with nothing to gain anyway except experience in a live game . Have Matt start channeling Dilfer on the sideline and help Teel along in this pre-preseason game

by IDAHOPUMA on Dec 29, 2009 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

We have other, real receivers.

Seneca is not a reciever. Putting him there would probably only result in him getting injured.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Dec 31, 2009 6:33 AM PST up reply actions  

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