Ndamukong Suh at Colt McCoy - Game Thread
by John Morgan on Dec 5, 2009 5:03 PM PST
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PrintWhen Colt McCoy doesn't step into his throws, he lacks the arm strength to pull off Matt Ryan heroics. Ohio State achieved gut pressure and McCoy threw a fade away pick to Anderson Russell to end the half. That turned third and two on the Buckeye 15 into Buckeye ball; and three easy into zero. McCoy couldn't dodge the interior pressure and stumbled back before hucking it errant.
He has a compact snapping motion that allows him to step into a collapsing pocket and read and deliver. It generates good zip underneath and on mid- and middle-deep routes. Don't buy halfsmart criticisms of his arm strength. McCoy twice zipped the famous fifteen yard out against Ohio and with ease. He has good touch and accuracy on his deep passes, but less accuracy underneath than his career 70.6 completion percentage would suggest. Throwing short, he snaps his arm over his ear, and when he misses, it's high and low. He got ragged efforting a throw deep and just as his elbow flew out, so did the pass right and out of bounds.
That happens. McCoy is not an epic deep passer, but it's within his arsenal. He is the center and source of the Longhorn offense. Texas grinds it out with a multiple back rushing attack. It attacks through McCoy.
Colt is not tall or prototypical, and his rushing will need to become mobility and smart-scrambling in the pros, but he looks legitimate to me. He makes quick reads, quick decisions, senses pressure and is brave under fire. Whether you want McCoy or Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen or Sean Canfield or Other or Matt Hasselbeck, the more talented quarterbacks in the 2010 draft, the more valuable Seattle's three top-fifty picks. I think McCoy is a great fit for what Greg Knapp wants to do. My jaded, wounded Seahawks heart is even a little abuzz about the kid.
See what you think.
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I want Spiller in Seahawk blue.
I’ve been drooling over him for two years now. 40-yd run and also an inside TD run.
That was most likely Jake Locker's best game ever at UW
Hopefully it isn’t also his final game ever at UW.
I've heard a lot of negative things about McCoy as a prospect
People who’s opinion I trust have warned me about him, and opinion is really mixed, to put it nicely. For example, Walter Football compared Colt McCoy to Alex Smith.
If someone with legitimacy evaluating QB’s (like Holmgren) picks McCoy, I’d trust the choice. But from everything I’ve read, I don’t think I want to see the Seahawks investing a 1st or 2nd round pick in McCoy.
I love Suh.
Sheds the double-team throwing the offensive lineman off like a rag doll and gets to the QB.
Polk is so strong.
If the Huskies OL imrpoves next year and Locker stays, Washington’s offense might look pretty good next year.
Damn, I'm old
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
ABC
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I hate Nebraska so much I can't stand it for them to even have a lead
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Texas on its way to crapping the bed
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Dude, they beat us (Mizzou) with a flurry of turnovers, big plays, and blind luck that they never repeated again
They suck ass on offense, both in scheme and talent.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
On the other hand...
UT’s WRs are crap outside of Shipley. Talented but not smart or polished.
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Except for the whole Zac Lee thing
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OT: Anyone see how Fresno State beat Illinois today?
Ron Zook deserves to lose his job, but jeez. That’s some horrible random bad luck.
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Why would McCoy take that hit?
Rather than throw it away?
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CJ Spiller running tough between the tackles
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TD
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And you can tell he's missing his explosion
with his turf toe.
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UT finally flips field position
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Suh creeping back into the Heisman race?
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At first I was half-joking, but I don't know...Suh could transform this defense.
Jackson and Tapp break out. Just sign Campbell and let the offense be average.
SEA!
Love this idea
Would love to see the Hawks sign Campbell to a 1-2 year contract. And let whatever QB they draft groom behind Campell.
Do that, and you BETTER get Campbell
there’ll be a market for him too.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I expected McCoy to struggle a bit against a team that can rush up the gut
interested to see if he can adjust his game. He needs to start throwing into tighter windows.
He may be a guy where you really need to weight last year's performance more heavily
They lost a lot at receiver—Quan Cosby graduated, and they lost another starter to injury. They have talent, but they’re kids and are really unreliable.
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I guessed Vince Young and Pat White
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I knew Tui
Dantzler never even crossed my mind. Marques was easy because he is the only QB to go 300 yards passing and 200 yards rushing
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Woody Dantzler (clemson)
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I can see why the Nebraska punter is an 'impact player'
Their offense certainly blows
Munch
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OT: Justice League is an awesome cartoon
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Dude is still worshipped up there
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Because she is better looking?
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Don't worry
After that interview I feel pretty confident she is going to be spending that tuition on a communications degree rather then molecular science
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Not only that,
Thanking Dr. Pepper was not even remotely the call of the question. Although to be fair, had the other girl won she might have thanked cheesecake
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Speaking of Justice League
I read that Common is playing the Green Lantern. I was hoping for RZA, but what are you gunna do? Wu-Tang Clan ain’t nothin’ to fuck with.
ABC congratulates the Dave Matthews Band for their two Grammy Nominations
and people call conspiracy theorists nuts.
I get irrationally annoyed when they say "Frozen Tundra of Green Bay"
There is no Tundra in Wisconsin.
http://www.tundralodge.com/
Tundra Found
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Jeez, He got tossed
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That chop block call was bad
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He looked good when they played Texas Tech
But he looks even better tonight
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We just need a plan for meeting them
we can potentially get an o-lineman later in the draft and a QB in free agency.
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Would Tampa/St. Louis/Cleveland
Even do a two first round picks for one?
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Yep - I just got aboard the 'both firsts for Suh' train after that sack where he THREW McCoy
Dominant. Simply dominant. Him alongside Mebane would biblical.
I have to say, the UT skill position players are all having an awful game
Tre Newton got caught up inside
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Assuming UT wins...
umm, ’Bama will have “decided schematic advantage”
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C'mon Cody!
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Horrible throw by McCoy
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Cody Green
You suck at giving a snap count apparently
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Do we have enough faith in McCoy to hope for a poor showing here?
Like you would hope for a tools guy to do poorly in the combine.
He's been everywhere tonight
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He's impossible to ignore right now isn't he?
Consistently great.
He has to know
he has to know on a team with little to play for: This is his chance to start his NFL career.
Little to play for?
A win gets them to a BCS bowl, I’d say that is quite a bit to play for
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All the same - it's a good point
He must be cognisant of the fact that, especially considering the focus on the game tonight, he can make himself very rich over the next 6 years by playing the way he is tonight.
I don't disagree
Suh definitely brought his A game today in a game everyone was watching. For someone who is already #1 on a lot of draft boards, it’s pretty fantastic to see him play his best against the best team he’s faced
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I've been impressed with his tackling
He’s not just taking down guys that he explodes right into, he’s agile enough and strong enough to track players down and tackle them.
He's had legendary moments:
Holding back an offensive lineman while tracking McCoy and then throwing the lineman off with one arm and sacking McCoy
Pelini has made the game about UT's skill position players
and they’re awful tonight.
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I want to see a half-back pass or something
Clearly the normal play-book isn’t working, lets see something clever
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Anyone else
Find that “Modern Family” commercial somewhat racist?
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OOOOOHHHH
You have GOT to come down with that!
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Paul really can't catch
He’s a return specialist on a good team.
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That Nebraska offense is garbage
if Suh isn’t gassed, I’m gonna crap my pants and endorse trading both picks to move up and draft Suh.
I want to do this as well
Fuck the rest of the draft
Even when Nebraska puts points on the board
They still don’t give their defense an adequate rest
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After watching the game.
That’s exactly what I want right now. Two first rounders and the 2nd rounder and I’d be happy as fuck.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Dec 5, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
UT receivers are garbage
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
McCoy is not looking sharp at all
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Isn't McCoy usually a bit erratic under pressure?
He’s just standing there and taking these sacks. Use your legs dude.
No Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuhh
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The only way NU wins is with a big return
They have their shot right here.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
You are being generous
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Bad strategy
FG isn’t worth the field position you sacrifice on the kickoff.
I see them rolling Lee right and dragging the TE McNeil across. He’ll fall on the ground, get up and try to get behind the LB.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
It wasn't that Cal looked bad nearly so much as UW dominated them. Dom. In. Ated.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Dec 5, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Clemson about to take the lead
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It would have been fitting
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I'm sold
I’m thinking for the long term we’re better drafting a QB next year. Current class looks sure to disappoint some gametime.
I dunno...
I don’t see any way we get high enough for Suh while still having a top 15 pick to pull Spiller…
Unless we tank the season and somehow get a few of our wins we’ve already had overturned.
Hah!!
The Seahawks aren’t going to have the #1 pick John.
by Brendan Scolari on Dec 6, 2009 1:06 AM PST up reply actions
Suh pused him right into that sack
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You got to be kidding me!!
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Really? "And he's short of the first down"
He was almost short of the line of scrimmage
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Anyone but BSU
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TCU has crushed every team they have played
except Clemson. Donkey State had a tough time handling Tulsa
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But they crushed those quality opponents
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I'd prefer TCU
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Side note: G-Tech scored
minute twenty left
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Is it when the ball lands
or when the ball is out of bounds?
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Tiki-Curse on Texas
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Still a great game to watch
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There is no way they overturn
The 2-pt conversion
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Nope
He’s not eligible yet, only been out of HS for 2 years.
by Brendan Scolari on Dec 6, 2009 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
Don't know about the fiield, but in the locker room...? Suh.
The guy who kicked out of bounds or the guy that did the stupid horse collar being the favorities
At least it didn't end on a terrible call or penalty situation.
They got the 1 second right, I thought.
thank gaaawd
We were spared the possibility of a Florida-Alabama BCS championship game
I wouldn't mind signign some random ok tackle from FA.
And draft Locker, Dan Williams, Everson Griffen.
But why?
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I agree, that is my opinion
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what about Jordan Shipley?
I think he’d look good in blue
I don't think Long has been anything more then adequate so far
iirc, but I have to figure him and Suh on a line together could make a defense very dangerous very quickly
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Don't worry, it will all be over soon.
And by soon, I mean six months. And then another two years to see if whomever we spend a billion dollars on pans out or busts.
Sorry, this isn’t helping, I’m sure.
The good news is we have many needs
BEST player available
:(
Sad news… Right when he’s starting to get his groove, this happens.
by aerozeppelin on Dec 6, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
Terrible
It’s really too bad for Portland.
by Brendan Scolari on Dec 6, 2009 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
Great guy, but it was pretty clear just looking at him before the draft that he wasn't going to stay healthy.
I know it was a fluke accident, but his physiological makeup appears to be more fragile than the average person.
As you may already know
I laugh at the prospect of Colt McCoy as a first rounder. Tonight he looked like he shouldn’t get drafted, but part of that was Nebraska’s defense. Anyway, picking McCoy high in the draft would be insane in my opinion, I’d (again) love to know what anyone sees in him.
I'm a Texan in Portland
I really like the idea of Colt McCoy in the NFL. He would be perfect to come in and sit behind Matt next year. He and Matt would bond, Colt seems like a guy who knows his how to handle himself, they are both deeply religious and by all accounts have a calm demeanor. McCoy won’t go until late 1st/early 2nd round. Taking McCoy allows us to rebuild a new line first.
Also if we don’t have a good line he can run his a$$ off. He reminds me of a more physically talented, less smug, more good looking Jeff Garcia which works well for Seattle.
Can he get as hot a wifey?
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Dec 6, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
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