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BJ Raji Has Short Arms (And Other Facts from the NFL Combine)

The 2009 NFL Combine is over and debate the results as much as you like, they do provide a good foundation for a player's athletic profile. Yes, tenths of seconds matter. Tenths of a second matter because the level of competition is just that high. Consider that Usain Bolt scorched his competition at the 2008 Beijing Olympics, setting a world record in the 100 meter. It was a laugher. The final ten meters looked like this:

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Bolt beat silver medalist Richard Thompson by just 2 tenths of a second. An athlete is not a football player, but, as a measure of athleticism, the NFL Combine provides important information. Because if being a great football player was enough, Mike Hass would be dominating the league as a Bear rather than struggling for a roster spot with the Seahawks.

If you've paid any attention, you know the top performers in the forty. Here's some less reported stats that piqued my interest.

Top Five Stumps (Prospects with underwhelming reach)

5. Mike Mayock's fourth ranked center A.Q. Shipley: 29 ¾"

4. Future Argonaut Chase Daniel: 28 ¾"

3. "Sleeper" Outside linebacker Kaluka Maiava: 30 ½"

2. The chink in Brian Robiskie's armor: 31 ½"

1. Consensus first ranked defensive tackle B.J. Raji: 32" (third shortest among defensive tackles)

Top Five Wings (Prospects with extraordinary reach)

5. Defensive Tackle Vance Walker: 35" (first among all defensive tackles)

4. Tight End Jared Cook: 35 ¾"

3. Duke Robinson: 34 ¾" (tied second among all guards)

2. Tools messiah defensive end Jarron Gilbert: 36 ¾" (Combine best)

1. Michael Crabtree: 34 ¼" (third among all wide receivers

Top overall performance in the three cone drill:

Flip those hips Malcolm Jenkins: 6.59 seconds

Some think he's slow:

Patrick Chung: 4.47 forty

Seattle interviewed him twice:

Darius Butler: 43" vert

And with that, I say goodnight to the NFL Combine and hello to actual scouting.

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liking Patrick Chung. I hope we pick him up in the draft.

by Seahawks CHS on Feb 24, 2009 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

I can't believe the draft is still two months away

Debating picks is already starting to get old.

I’m excited to see more scout reports and video profiles though.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Feb 24, 2009 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

We get a break in a few days with the start of free agency.

by John Morgan on Feb 24, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Regarding Free Agency

ESPN Hidden Gems in Free Agency includes our man Leonard Weaver

"Leonard Weaver, FB, Seattle
Fullbacks do not get a lot of attention, but Weaver does a lot of things well and could help out just about any team in the league. He is an able ball carrier, receiving option or blocker in either the run or pass game. He isn’t a lead back, but is a strong and effective short-yardage runner who can be productive in a time share.

Weaver is a class act who is extremely competitive and brings very little bust potential to his new team. He also is an underrated athlete for such a big man and consistently shows supple hands along with a penchant for playing very physical in all aspects asked of him."

by Built2Spill on Feb 24, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to lament the day he leaves.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Feb 24, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

There are way too many players I want with our second round pick

Outside of having long arms did Duke do anything to get bumped up into the first round? Any chance Chung’s 40 time gets him into the first?

by Nate Dogg on Feb 24, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

I have a hunch Chung is going to get snapped up early.

No matter. William Moore is a more than adequate consolation prize.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Feb 24, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely

I think William Moore will be better. I also think he’ll be drafted earlier.

by jacobstevens on Feb 25, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

What ever happened to Fili Moala?

First he was considered a top 20 selection, now either his stock has taken a dive or other DTs have vaulted ahead. Do you think we can grab him in the early 3rd? Do we even need him, considering that I’ve heard he’s more of a run-stuffing type?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Feb 24, 2009 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

I was wondering about that too

sounds like another underachieving USC DL

by aerozeppelin on Feb 24, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Be more specific.

LoJack and Shaun Cody fit the profile, among others. Heh. But in all seriousness, Moala showed some great stuff at USC, and was considered one of the best DTs not too long ago, and now he’s fallen off the face of the planet like Calais Campbell and Phillip Merling did last season.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Feb 24, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

too early to tell about LoJack

very few DE’s produce their rookie season.

by cro-mag! on Feb 25, 2009 6:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Houston should retroactively un-fire Casserly for that one.

It’s not often you see someone beat up that badly for making the right decision.

by The Ancient Mariner on Feb 25, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

first overall pick

vs late first rounder, not exactly parallel cases.

2008 rookies
chris long – 40 tackles, 4 sacks
calais campbell – 28 tackles, 0 sacks
lawrence jackson – 29 tacles, 2 sacks

mario williams (rookie) – 45 tackles, 4.5 sacks.

also remember that the hawks had three other ends getting significant time (atkins, kerney, tapp). i would be interested to see what how many snaps each of these guys played.

i’m just sayin its too early to tell about LoJack.

by cro-mag! on Feb 25, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm agreeing with your statement.

I’m saying if even a physically dominant freak can be held to 4.5 sacks in his rookie year, than a 1st/2nd rounder should be given an even longer time frame before judging him.
Even a veteran physical freak like Julius Peppers can have a bad year.

by LantermanC on Feb 25, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course.

I still think he’s going to beast within two seasons, which is why I don’t want to draft another DE early.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Feb 25, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Chase Daniel may be a step down...

But the Argos are hardly ‘set’ with Joseph. Though many factors led to the team’s decline last year, i.e. coaching instability and the erosion of a once-strong defense, Joseph did not have a good year. He threw almost as many picks as TDs and had his second-lowest completion percentage.

Nevertheless, I think John was making an amusing point rather than a CFL draft projection.

by tohereknowswhen on Feb 24, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

3" difference

between the DT’s arm lengths…..does that really matter THAT much?

I Bleed Blue and Green

by DSAhawker on Feb 24, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

It can be the difference

between beating the blocker and being neutralized.

by The Ancient Mariner on Feb 25, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

People think Chris Chambers is taller than 5'11"

Because he has long arms. You look at the dude and think…6’1" and then look at the sheet. He can get to balls that most guys his height cannot.

As much as Crabtree’s 40 time is a topic of conversation, I’d also love to see his vertical jump. Those long arms of his will make him play more like someone 6’3"….but he’s no Fitzgerald- aka- freak show.

by Section 128 on Feb 25, 2009 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

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