Houshmandzadeh to Decide Today?
by abender20 on Mar 2, 2009 8:42 AM PST
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PrintAfter spending yesterday hanging back against the wall awkwardly sipping punch, T.J. Houshmandzadeh will reportedly choose a girl to dance with today. The offers, allegedly:
The Cincinnati Enquirer reported the Bengals are offering a deal that exceeds the five-year, $35 million contract ($11 million guaranteed) the Giants gave wide receiver Plaxico Burress last September and the five-year, $33 million extension Pittsburgh gave Hines Ward. The Seahawks and Vikings are thought to be both offering three-year contracts, with Seattle coming in about $2 million higher than the Vikings.
To help T.J. decide, I've used painstaking research to assemble a short list of selling points for each team.
Selling points for the Vikings: Great defense, Adrian Peterson, Bernard Berrian, a competitive team with a legitimate shot at the NFC North title.
Selling points for the Seahawks: An offense that should suit T.J. well, proximity to home, a chance to be competitive, slightly more money than the Vikings.
Selling points for the Bengals: Carson Palmer, his amigo (Señor Ocho Cinco), and of course the guarantee that T.J. could start an underground marmot-fighting ring and still be denied a podium finish for Craziest Bengal.
Update: Houshmandzadeh cares less about marmot-fighting than he does Seaplane rides.
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I don't know if signing Housh
would rectify the Cole mistake, but it would definitely ease the pain.
As I said before, I used to think of it as Hill and Crabtree or Housh and Curry, but now it seems like it will be Hill, Housh, and Stafford?!?!
Updating a previous item, T.J. Houshmandzadeh left Minnesota last night and flew home to Los Angeles.
There goes the Vikes’ momentum. Letting Housh get out of town without a contract likely means they are no longer the front-runner to get him signed. The Bengals, Vikes, and Seahawks are the three teams in the derby right now -Rotoworld and Minneapolis Star Tribune
Just a thought:
I’ve been criticial of signing Housh for a while because I think he’s going to be gone before we really contend. But maybe the Hawks are looking at bringing in a vet of his stature, an instant “safety net” if you will, because they’re expecting Hass to not make it through the season and are expecting to draft/sign a young QB ASAP who will need a quality WR to help him through those first couple of years.
Also
‘Slightly’ could mean as much as 2mil/year more than the Vikings were offering. I’d have to think TJ is leveraging this situation nicely, but from what I’ve seen we offered more $$ than the Vikes, but who knows at this stage. I just hope we nab him.
More selling points
Selling points against the Vikings: No established QB, uniforms almost as ridiculous as Cincy, boring home field atmosphere, boring as hell city and culture, family sticks out in lily-white frozen Minneapolis.
Selling points for the Seahawks: Specifically targeted by Housh, likes the PNW, cool uniforms, great facilities and home field atmosphere, awesome city and diverse culture, established QB, relatively weak division.
Selling points against the Bengals: 1. Cincinatti. 2. the Bengals.
The state of Washington and the state of Minnesota
actually have about the same percentage of minorities and African Americans. Not sure about the actual cities of Minneapolis and Seattle, but I’m going to assume that Housh will live in the suburbs?
Yeah, but....
Really, anybody is better than Ryan Fitzpatrick. And you think people care how they look in a uniform? Really? Cleveland has giant orange ugly…things, and players still sign there. If Housh is going to decide based on the uniform as opposed to the best situation to win, theres larger issues. The Vikings have as good of a shot to win their division as the ’Hawks have, so relatively east division makes little sense as well
The metrodome does suck, I’ll grant you that. And the PNW is a big selling point. It might be enough to persuade him.
by Jerikantilles on Mar 2, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Selling Point: $$$
“Ray (Lewis) spoke for all of us when he said, ‘If you don’t play less, you don’t take less (money),’” Houshmandzadeh said. "I’m nervous about leaving Cincinnati. It will be a huge adjustment, like being a rookie all over again. Moving, getting to know everyone, learning a new team, new players, new coaches, new system — I can see why guys would take less to stay. But if I have to make a choice between the best team and the best money? I’m not stupid, man. I’ll take the money.
Income Tax
Minnesota’s got one. Washington doesn’t.
If he’s going to make a decision on $$$, then he should keep in mind that particular advantage. Minnesota taxes at 7.85% on income over $131,970 (http://www.taxes.state.mn.us/individ/filing_your_taxes/filing_requirements/inctxrates.shtml). That extra 8% is worth almost a $1M on a $10M/year contract.
Housh! We can dance if we want to!
We can leave your friends behind!
NY Daily News beat writer Ralph Vacchiano is hearing that the Seahawks “are the favorite” to sign free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
Connecting the dots, this probably means Seattle’s offering the most money. Housh entered free agency wanting a 4+ year deal averaging $10M annually. Mar. 2 – 12:43 pm et
Christ, I'd be livid if we signed him to 10 million annually.
I’d still rather have a damaged Crabtree.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
Both would be nice.
But I’m beginning to think that guys who can catch it will be had in later rounds of the draft. I’m bracing myself for TR’s pass on Crabtree, though I don’t really want to. It is unfortunately starting to make sense, though I’m still excited about his special talents save for speed.
I'll take TJ at 3/28 or 4/35ish. It doesn't seem like he's going to age poorly, and he's a good player.
By all accounts it looks like we’re the favorites at this point, so I’m just trying to get excited for the guy.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
I doubt Seattle offered even close to $10 million a year
He’s old and he knows it. My guess is every team low-balled his number, he’s just picking the highest low-ball, hehe.
Frankly, at his age the guaranteed money might be paramount
and a shorter deal, with continued great performance, might allow him to cash in a second time after the cap is gone. A five year deal means nothing if only $11M is guaranteed and he can be cut after 3 years. I’m tiring of hearing we’re in it, th
what the hell just happened?
continueing… I’m tiring of hearing we’re in it, then we’re not, now we are again. I just want him to make a decision. Interesting that his home is in LA. I thought he lived in Cincy and relocating family would be a hurdle.
So, is this going down as the next Erik Bedard/Gen Kriffey Jr. deal?
Imminent but we’re in agonizing tension until it happens?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
For what it's worth
Michael Smith just said on NFL Live that he expects Housh to sign with Seattle by tonight. Not sure how reliable Smith is, but I’m sure he has his sources and I doubt he’s just pulling that out of his ass.
Breaking from the NFP:
Barring any last-second problems, free agent wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh will sign a multi-year contract with the Seattle Seahawks, according to sources close to the situation.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/breaking-housh-headed-to-seattle/
Deadspin is reporting
that T.J. Houshmanzadeh (and his ridiculously long last name) is a Seahawk now.
Of course, they’re using the same link that Misfit just used…..but so what? Deadspin is funny, and that matters to me just as much as accurate and in-depth journalism.
I can't wait for official confirmation. I'm too excited. I just hope it's not false hope...
I’m giddy w/ the idea of two quality targets in Carlson and Housh. Anything from Branch or Nate and we could have something very nice. A pre-season free of “Will so-and-so unknown, untested, unproven, or unhealthy wide receiver please step up for us” talk would be groovy.
That would be a lot of money
tied up at WR. Not saying it won’t happen, but TJ singing has to make it less likely.
John, feel free to delete the fanpost about this.
I look forward to reading more from you about the signing, if you’re planning on posting about it.
Big contract, I say no way we go QB now
I just don’t see it. We are putting so much money into players now that are in their prime, approaching it or past it, Housh is a SICK player and I’m amped, but 32 years old with 5 years. I mean, that doesn’t seem like a rebuilding team signing to me.
I still say this means we are going BPA, and likely a OT with our pick now.
Let's go.
Big Contract but..
I think Housh will still be good for another 2 years so we’ll probably only end up paying him $16 mil or so.
Yeah OT definitely seems like the most logical direction we go. But if Stafford is still there at 4 do we bite? Also what about RB, do we really trust JJ and TJ to deliver every game? A more crazy idea would be to draft Aaron Curry and move to a 3-4 defense, but that would make the Cole signing seems even more silly.
Given all of his recent controversies
Can you really blame at team in the top 4 or even 10 from passing on him? Sure he was amazing in college, a lot of players are, but that doesn’t make him a shoe in for a All-Pro career.
I don't blame them
But I’m definitely going to have anxiety over that unless and until he proves to have an underwhelming career relative to expectations.
The recent news haven't affected him much
It does for 3rd or 4th rounders but in this case, Crabtree is already a bonafide college superstar. Teams don’t need his combine numbers to know his full potential.
Now I just hope this poor guy doesn’t fall into the hands of Al Davis.
John, really interested to hear what you make of this signing.
To me, Housh seems slightly out of whack with typical Ruskellian FA methods. This seems a signing based on production. I wouldn’t call him a huge character guy (or maybe that’s a bit harsh considering he’s be shacked up with a receiving core including Chris Henry and Chad) – just hope he can stay fit and remain as productive as in recent seasons, in which he may have posted declining numbers, but still better than any wideout on our roster.
I'll take those "declining numbers"...
over the last three years any day of the week.
Wow this is great
Addresses one of our biggest problems and takes the pressure off from having to choose Crabtree in the draft.
Who is our slot guy now?
I guess by default it’s Burleson, assuming Engram is gone. Has he played there before? I’m assuming Branch and Housh are gonna play on the outsides, but I’m speculating. Regardless, our two WR, 1 TE formations are much improved with this signing. Burleson flashes great stuff occasionally but he’s always been a bit inconsistent.
Good question
It does stand to reason that Burleson would be the one, to me, as well, although as a Seahawk I’d say he’s been more consistent than Branch.
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