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2008 Season Retrospective: TJ Duckett

TJ Duckett

Overview: Mike Holmgren never did figure out how to use TJ Duckett. Or, rather, he figured out exactly how to use TJ Duckett - sparingly. Duckett was used exclusively to convert short yardage, both first downs and touchdowns, and to kill the clock. In that role, he excelled, converting 26 first downs and eight touchdowns in just 62 attempts.

What Went Wrong: It's hard to fault Duckett for anything. With few exceptions, he did exactly what was asked of him. This is just idle speculation, but Holmgren didn't look too happy even when Duckett did succeed. He didn't seem comfortable with Duckett as a power back, incensed at Duckett's maddening insistence on picking his way through the line rather than bursting ahead. I'm sorry, did I say maddening? I meant incredibly effective.

Duckett didn't catch a damn thing. That's a deficit that extends back to Michigan State. In ten seasons, college and pros, Duckett has only 57 receptions. He has averaged 8.7 yards per reception as a pro. Marshall Faulk and Brian Westbrook each averaged 9.0 yards per reception as a pro. I'm not making the rather strained comparison to say Duckett is their equal, but to wonder aloud what the compelling evidence is that Duckett can't receive.

What Went Right: Duckett rushed for 56 DYAR and did everything asked of him.

Quintessential Game: Rams at Seahawks

High-stepping bowling ball: T.J. Duckett's nickname is apt; pressed into tight quarters he really does curl down and keep his knees high, looking every bit the high-stepping bowling ball. That hard to tackle, somewhat comical run style served him well churning into the end zone.

Twelfth play of Seattle's first drive of the quarter. Seahawks and Rams break in classic goal line formations. Seattle in an "I", with Sean Locklear playing tight, outside-left of Walter Jones. At the snap, Seattle's left side gets push, neatly encapsulated by Locklear throwing his weight around against O.J. Atogwe. There's an air of eventuality to Duckett's march, it's slow, methodical and when contact's made inches outside the goal line, you know which way the pile is moving. Duckett is a bit of a picker, and doesn't hit the hole with haste like a typical short yardage back, but that's also how Seattle run blocks, with holes and cutbacks lanes developing. Duckett is a cutback power back, if you can fathom such a thing.

Outlook: I wonder what Holmgren thought when Tim Ruskell signed TJ Duckett. Holmgren was always foremost a masterful offensive coordinator. To say the writing was on the wall that Seattle would soon replace Holmgren with Greg Knapp is to say too little. It was downright preordained. That's not quite working alongside your replacement (a trial Holmgren also endured), but I'm sure the absurdity of the situation wasn't lost on the scholarly sixty year old.

Duckett and Knapp are reunited and neither much changed for lost years. Knapp has escaped the black hole; Duckett the pigeonhole. Both get a shot to prove they're something more than their surroundings. Luckily, both are still pretty young for their positions. Duckett isn't entirely speed-dependent, and as power backs go, there ain't many faster. Knapp needs another back to absorb the 500 or so carries he hopes to dish out. Duckett embodies a funky combination of styles. He's part power back, part cutback rusher and part feature back. If short yardage be an indicator, he has the most awkward approach I've ever seen. He's all knees and elbows. All knees and elbows on a six foot, 250 pound frame. And when he uncoils, he glides with a clunky effortlessness that's something to behold.

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Between Jones, Duckett and Forsett, plus Schmitt and a fullback-to-be-named,

the Hawks could have the makings of a great running game. Knapp’s scheme does seem more suited to the parts in place. The health and improvement of the O-line will be paramount.

by lemonverbena on Mar 23, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the main factor

as to why Duckett isn’t as good as Jacobs. They both run phenomenal 40 times considering they’re both over 250 lbs. Is it agility, decision making, or just a bunch of things, some things measurable and something not?

by LantermanC on Mar 23, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's because we can't hold a candle to the Giants offensive line, for one.

And that we didn’t have Madison Hedgecock blowing apart people in the second level.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 23, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought Duckett was underrated.

Aside from the fact that he got the short-yardage conversions done, I didn’t see anything that indicated he couldn’t be a benefit of a 60-40 split in carries between him and Julius Jones. I remember in the Cowboys game, Hasselbeck audibled him to split out wide and he caught a quick pass to convert the 3rd down (or was it 4th?). He also flipped a blitzing Mike Vrabel on his back against the Patriots.

Can’t wait to see what Knapp can make this guy do.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 23, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not like last season's was abysmally ineffective.

Jones averaged 4.4 YPC, Morris 4.3, Duckett converted lots of short-yardage, etc. We fell behind a lot so we had to abandon rushing early.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 23, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've seen what Knapp can make this guy do

He’s an ~average platoon running back.

by Nate Dogg on Mar 23, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, exactly.

Duckett has been asked to little more than what a capable fullback can accomplish.

by Dukeshire on Mar 23, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Duckett's receiving capability
In ten seasons, college and pros, Duckett has only 57 receptions. He has averaged 8.7 yards per reception as a pro. Marshall Faulk and Brian Westbrook each averaged 9.0 yards per reception as a pro. I’m not making the rather strained comparison to say Duckett is their equal, but to wonder aloud what the compelling evidence is that Duckett can’t receive.

Maybe its that defenses pretty much ignore him on passing downs because he’s caught so few balls, meaning whenever he does get a reception, there’s not too many people around him.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Mar 23, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought, too.

It makes sense, I’m pretty sure Alexander had a pretty good average even into the later years even though he was crap after the catch (if he even made the catch).

by djafrot on Mar 23, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alexander's receiving ability was Vernon Davis-esque after his first couple seasons.

Man, watching those cement-block hands drop passes was painful

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 23, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One occasion that really made me laugh.

I was down there for a game, and was watching the PRE-pre-game warmups.

The offense was running this little drill where the running backs, WR’s, TE’s just jogged a little “go” route and the backup QB flung up the ball. You know, just to get things going.

Shaun dropped the first one, to a smattered chorus of laughs from our section. You could see him smile and jog around to the back of the line.

A bunch of other guys ran their routes, everyone caught them.

Then Shaun’s up again… ball’s in the air… and doink bounces right off his chest plate. Now you hear boo’s.

Man, that guy drove me nuts.

by djafrot on Mar 24, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The most recent example I can think of is XL.

Sort of a smattering of his flaws, but Hasselbeck dropped back (I think this was in the first quarter), a blitzer engages Alexander (although in retrospect it was just a formality, I’m sure he could have just went around him), easily flings him aside and almost hesitates because of how easy it was, and tries to get the sack. Hass, seeing this developing, sort of exasperatedly fires a laser in spite that Alexander of course dropped.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 24, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol Those high steps gave me the chuckles.

But I never complained because sometimes he’s pretty darn effective.

by Carl Shinyama on Mar 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was fun to read.

Your skill with eloquence really comes off in this one. This wasn’t just a retrospective on Duckett, but a bit of a retrospective on Holmgren/Ruskell via Duckett.

Like you I think Duckett had a very nice season last year even if he was barely used. He’s one of the reasons I now hesitate a little to flame whenever Ruskell signs a guy I initially see no value in.

by kearly on Mar 23, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brian Russell

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 23, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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