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A Redistribution of Kurt

Getting to the Super Bowl surely cemented Arizona as the favorites to repeat as NFC West Champions this coming season. There is reason to believe, however, that the quarterback responsible for running the Arizona offense may be playing his home games one state over this year.

Warner, a two-time most valuable player who led the Cardinals to the Super Bowl last season, became a free agent when he did not re-sign with the team.

Arizona has offered a two-year, $20 million contract to Warner, who will be 38 when training camp opens. But Warner is seeking a deal worth at least $14 million a season.

Star-divide

Let's say Warner does indeed sign with the 49ers and the Cardinals go with Matt Leinart:

  • The 49ers instantly become a better team, but do they have enough to compete for the division?
  • The Cardinals are likely to be worse off, but by how much? Leinart was a talented guy in college and has had plenty of time to marinate on the bench. If Leinart can come close to running the offense like Warner (or like 85% of Warner, which is  "Warne"), the Cardinals will still be in contention.

As a Seahawks fan, would you rather Warner stay in Arizona and take your chances against that offensive juggernaut, or redistribute the wealth and raise the average talent of the NFC West?

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Ok, so
or like 85% of Warner, which is “Warne”

will probably be the funniest thing I read all day.

I really hope the 49ers sign Warner, because I think it will make Arizona a little worse, and San Fran a little better, and this will increase our chances for the division title, though it will turn it into (at least in my mind) a 3 team race instead of a 2 team one.

by LantermanC on Mar 3, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

I think we're slightly better off with Warner in SF

Makes it much harder for Arizona to stay on top, and there’s no guarantee of success for Warner in a new system. Could make the 9ers a little scary but I’d rather take my chances with them than an intact Super Bowl team.

Dilute and conquer.

by lemonverbena on Mar 3, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think it's happening.

But if it did, we would gain ground within the division. The offensive weapons in ARI are much greater than in SF. Warner would have less to work with, except at RB. Leinart could still blossom, but that could take some time. Our chance to win would be greater this year.

by Misfit74 on Mar 3, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

One, the Cardinals are going 7-9 regardless if Warner stays.

Two, signing him would be colossally stupid on the 49ers part. After hiring that old dinosaur of an offensive coordinator who agrees with Singletary’s philosophy of power running, that would all go to nil if they picked up Kurt, and make firing Martz look even dumber than before, since he can only run a spread effectively. Warner wouldn’t last past week 3 behind that laughable offensive line, and who would he be throwing to? Isaac Bruce? Jason Hill? Stone Hands Davis?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 3, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed

Singletary wants a ball control offense. I doubt they sign Warner, or else why not keep Martz? The other factor is that Arizona got really hot, lost the OC and fired the DC – the west is wide open, probably no matter where Warner signs, and with the time he’s had on the bench, Leinart probably won’t be too bad of a QB.

by Jerikantilles on Mar 3, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Correction

Pointed out to me: the 49ers have no qb so their interest in Warner is a good move

Warner going to SF is idiotic, because the system doesn’t fit him at all. It wouldn’t be dumb by the 49ers – its a rather intelligent move by them in going after a solid QB and denying one to the Cardinals – and firing Martz isnt a dumb move at all. He’s not the coach, and the OC needs to fit the philosophy of the coach. Granted, having Warner and Martz together might be good for historical purposes (And maybe now, but times a changin’), Martz needed to go either way.

by Jerikantilles on Mar 3, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm with Frog

except that I think if Warner goes, the Cards drop a game or two further. I don’t believe in Leinart at all — I think he just needs the playing time to prove himself a bust — and I don’t think Warner would help the Niners much at all. (At this point, honestly, I’m not sure anyone can help the Niners much.)

by The Ancient Mariner on Mar 3, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

I agree with this.

I think giving Leinart playing time will just prove to everyone that he’s not an NFL starting QB.
And Warner to SF might be the worst fit possible for him.

by LantermanC on Mar 3, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

the 49er offensive line is atrocious

dead last in sacks last year, second to last the year before, if he goes to the 49ers he’s going to get eaten up and probably injured by game 3. so yeah, i hope he goes to the 49ers. :)

by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 3, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

Apparently,

Warner has made a counter-proposal to the Cardinals, 2 years 23 million, 12 guaranteed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3948904

Warner would also reduce his contract by 1 million a year if they renegotiate with Anquan Boldin.

by PattyB on Mar 3, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think there's any way the Cards let Warner go.

They have tons of cap space.

However… should they let him go, we know that means they have confidence in Leinart.

by djafrot on Mar 3, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

Which in turn is hilarious in of itself.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 3, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

So Warner signs with 49ers

and then in 2010 is released and signs with the hawks as a one yearr stop gap for Stafford after Hasselbeck suffers “exploding of his internets”

Just so he can complete his NFC West Cycle

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 3, 2009 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

If he takes the other three to a super bowl

I’d be willing to give him a shot to finish the cycle

by Ezzra on Mar 3, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Warner stays in Arizona

They lost Arrington, Boldin is very unhappy, and James wants to be released. Terrrible chemistry. I don’t see Arizona doing that well next year. If Seattle stays healthy, Arizona won’t be no thang.

by Nick Andron on Mar 4, 2009 7:12 AM PST reply actions  

Every team that has beaten Philadelphia in the playoffs has gone 7-9 the following season.

I don’t expect that trend to break.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 4, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Here.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Mar 4, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

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