Seahawks Re-Sign Ray Willis
by Doug Farrar on Mar 6, 2009 5:51 PM PST
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Per Schefter, as is seemingly everything these days. Terms unknown, two more years of Big Die Slow. Me likey. The Redskins and Raiders were in the mix -- Sando reports that Washington offered him a starting right tackle shot, and he obviously turned it down. In my mind, this is the move that makes Sean Locklear the short-term incumbent at left tackle, pending Superman's knee, a move I don't really like in the long term, but remember that Locklear has incentives built into his contract based on time at left tackle. The Seahawks have seen this coming.
So. what does this do for Seattle's line in the big picture? Do they take the elite tackle at 4, grooming him under the best player in the history of the franchise, and use Locklear as the left tackle spackle? Or does Willis shade in at guard or provide depth? The terms will tell us a lot, but I can't imagine Willis turning down a potential starting spot with a near-playoff team to come back to Em City for a below-the-fold role.
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For. the. win!!
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 6, 2009 6:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Best news I've heard all day.
Having never been a Locklear fan, I’m hoping we draft a tackle at #4 and groom him for LT and let Willis take over the RT in 2010.
by Ezzra on Mar 6, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is awesome, awesome news
I’ve worried about this.
…and, bump up Jenkins and Stafford a spot.
by John Morgan on Mar 6, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
NICE.
I was worried as well about or OL depth.
by redwolf75 on Mar 6, 2009 6:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is great news
especially in the sense that drafting a tackle at #4 doesn’t seem as necessary as it did yesterday. I’m not ruling it out, either; the best thing the Seahawks can do with the #4 pick is go BPA, and this signing makes doing so a little bit easier.
by J.L. White on Mar 6, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Whoooo-Hooooooo!
Solid move, even if he remains at a depth position. I think he can start for us, at some point, and love his mean streak. I’m happy about this.
by Misfit74 on Mar 6, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, finally. Great news.
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Mar 6, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now we need to re-up Weaver, Pork Chop, and DD Lewis.
by redwolf75 on Mar 6, 2009 9:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe no one has snatched Weaver up yet.
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by Wayward Llama on Mar 6, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
most teams want blocking fullbacks
not dancers. even then, he only had 30 carries and 20 receptions last year.
by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 7, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would think other teams would use him as a big HB
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by Wayward Llama on Mar 7, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1.25 mil
I think I read somewhere – and I believe they would like him to start maybe at RG
We have Kyle Williams that stood up to be counted when we needed him last season. and 3 youngsters on our roster besides him
John , I can’t believe you said ELITE tackle Who are you looking at? Willis is better than any in the draft - I like to move down and pick up a couple more picks and then sign Beatty, who I think is just as good as the top 4 - I don’t think that any of the top 4 can come in here and start and make any kind of impact, which is what an elite tackle would do. - The only Elite in this draft is Curry (JMHO) But, if we need to use this pick let it be for Curry or Sanchez - but, both are great trade material
by BUSTINHEADS on Mar 6, 2009 10:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better than any other tackle in the draft?!?
Is Willis a better run blocker than Andre Smith? Nope. Is he a better pass blocker than Monroe or the Smith kid from Baylor? Nope. Can he play left tackle, at all? Nope.
But at the right price he’s a good sign, and all indications are that this was at the right price. Good work.
by Hawkdawg on Mar 7, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that's a pretty bold statement
Willis, except sporadically, really hasn’t shown much and nothing in his first three years (and zilch at left tackle) and this is a good class of tackles this year. Potentially on par with the Orlando Pace and Walter Jones draft. But then he did also say we should pick Sanchez shudder
by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 7, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Sanchez more than most...
…but Ray Willis is not better than any tackle in this draft. Certainly not the top 4, and probably not better than Eben Britton. He might be a better NFL tackle than Phil Loadholt or something.
Is it time for me to start praying that the Rams’ front office suffers an enormous brainfart and forgets to draft Jason Smith? I think it is.
by Doug Farrar on Mar 7, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please separate your sentences with periods.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 7, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Given the signings and re-signings we've done, not many holes left to fill
so I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we’re thinking seriously about Sanchez at 4.
One understated quality about QB’s is ability to quickly read the defense, process the information and make a decision. The difference between a hall of fame QB and bust can simply be tenths of a second, no different than tenths of a second in the 40 for Corners. While Sanchez only has 1 year at starter, he was in the USC system for 4 years, and maybe game film reveals innate mental ability to go along with an arm that is strong enough.
by diehard82 on Mar 7, 2009 8:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Stafford.
Though I’m not too high on either.
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by Fearless Frog on Mar 7, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Bradford and McCoy were in this draft
by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 7, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thirded (?!?)
But lets not wish too hard – another season like last and we might get a chance to take either with another high pick.
by JamesMurphy on Mar 7, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fourth'd
As for Mays, no thank you.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 7, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, on second thought, it was smart for Bradford to go back to OU.
He needs some more seasoning.
by redwolf75 on Mar 7, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
think so?
It seems to me… can’t really back this up… that a lot of the time when a younger college QB is thought of as a high 1st rounder and goes back for another year, bad things happen.
Like Brian Brohm. The kid was slated as the best QB for one draft, he goes back for another year at uh, Louisville (?) which doesn’t work out so well and he ends up falling to the second round.
If Bradford had come out this year, he’d be the first pick at QB, no? Of course, he would be going to Detroit, maybe that was a factor.
by djafrot on Mar 7, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not set in stone that Detroit is drafting a QB.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 7, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have redshirt sophomore QBs had much success at the NFL level?
I think it was good for him to go back at least for another year. He can still leave early as a redshirt junior.
The difference between the situation of Brohm and Painter and Bradford is that Bradford is on a powerhouse team while the aforementioned QBs were not.
With the talent Bradford will have around him next year…there’s no way he can disappoint and lower his stock…
by redwolf75 on Mar 7, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that they're successful in the NFL when they leave
But they tend to get drafted better, so it seems, and thus make their money.
I don’t mean that Bradford SHOULD have left, just that he’d have guaranteed himself more money.
by djafrot on Mar 7, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have Patrick Chung over two Taylor Mays.
by redwolf75 on Mar 7, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Don’t get me wrong, I like Chung a lot (and will be very happy if we land him), but I put Taylor Mays in Reed / Polumalu land – the kid is awesome.
by JamesMurphy on Mar 7, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Mays is not a good safety.
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A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Mar 7, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to trust all of the professionals who made mock drafts during the seasons and other people who had Mays ranked highly over you
No offense or anything.
by SPENCEMAN on Mar 7, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Enough Taylor Mays
We can revisit this next season.
by John Morgan on Mar 7, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trusting people who work as professional analysts in the national spotlight is not a good idea most the time.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Mar 7, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's like watching cnbc for insider trading info
yabadabadoo
by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 7, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how bad is CNBC?
Just the beginning
They just recommend stocks that advertise on the channel or with any GE company.
Football related.
Taylor Mays is still a year away from being fully evaluated. Just remember who was going to be the “best DT” in the draft this year at the conclusion of 2007, Mr. Fili Moala. Some had him going number 1 in the draft. A year more of evaluation changes draft status tremendously.
by Built2Spill on Mar 7, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair.
It’s really hard to predict anything in these environments unless you’re a top .01% pessimist.
And if you compare it to normal news, its more of the same. 70% showers, no rain, so and so won’t sign this player, signed the next day (or cut).
Anyone else an Erin Burnett fan?
by LantermanC on Mar 8, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's done nothing in college that remotely approaches the production of
Polamalu/Reed.
by redwolf75 on Mar 7, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But he's 230 pounds
and can reportedly run a 4.3 40.
by LantermanC on Mar 8, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"reportedly."
And so can Jordan Kent, I’m sure.
by redwolf75 on Mar 8, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Jordan Kent weighs about a buck o'five
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by Wayward Llama on Mar 8, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
217 at the combine
probably a bit heavier now.
by John Morgan on Mar 8, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
He looks like the WR version of Kelly Jennings out there.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 8, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he like 6'2?
Or maybe it was 6’4"…
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 9, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listed as 6'4"
had to look it up.
by jacobstevens on Mar 9, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry but---
when I use the word ELITE - it is a player that can come in RIGHT NOW and make an IMPACT – I don’t believe that any of these top 4 can do that - Willis did not get much of an opportunity (thank you, Mike) to play until our OL line was decimated and then he DID show up very nicely at both RT and RG - he knows most of the WCO and the team…I think he will be starting at one of those positions, but, if we draft any of the top 4 OTs, I doubt they would be starting immediately (like Curry would) - This class is not as good as the WJ/OP draft, – no way. (but, that is cool, we all have our thots and ideas about different players/positions and how they will turn out – bet one of them will be a bust. JMHO
by BUSTINHEADS on Mar 7, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
"like Curry would"?
Curry would see next to zero playing time behind our linebackers.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 7, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When I say EMPHASIS I mean a word that can catch your ATTENTION by being MUCH BIGGER.
I don’t believe any of your silly reasoned points can do that.
by Nate Dogg on Mar 7, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I meant that
Curry is the ONLY elite player in this draft - and is an impact player – none of the rest of them are - maybe Raji is to some team, or Everette is to a team,, and REy could be, but, I think the others in this 1st round are mostly (mostly) not impact players per se. I didn’t mean Curry for this team, but, REy would be or Curry would be good playing in a 3-4 defense … no telling about which WR will be the best - the part we can never figure (like last season) are the injuries… Crabs is already out for more than 10 weeks with his foot. There goes the season. Some DLineman steps on it and he will be out again
Any team needing a OLB would pick Curry first and he would be an impact player. That won’t happen with most of these guys
Ever wonder how many busts there are in the 1st round?? I figure it to be close to about 20% (just an guesstimate) from looking at past drafts
by BUSTINHEADS on Mar 7, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 7, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What? I'd say Crabtree and Stafford and Sanchez and a lot of other players
have chances to be impact players. Even if the bar for impact player is at the level of someone like Ray Lewis.
Over 30% of first rounders do not end up starting for 3 seasons.
Also, remember to hit reply.
by LantermanC on Mar 8, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think some of the people from the ESPN Seahawks draft board are migrating over here
They are so completely out of it, it’s ridiculous.
Go ahead, try to talk to them, they just yell like Chewbacca while holding a picture of Crabtree or Curry in one hand and fapping with the other.
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Mar 7, 2009 11:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So true.
And I’m not some kind of online elitist, it’s just that there’s a line to draw between fandom and raving lunacy.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 8, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be technical
“fan” came from the word Fanatic, and was used as a derogatory term for fanatics of teams that…well spouted a lot of raving lunacy. Funny how words change over time. ; )
But I still agree with you. Some of the ideas on who we should draft are…odd to say the least. Or who we should cut. Or what positions we need.
by Fear on Mar 8, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, how does resigning Willis affect Pork Chop's status as an FA?
Do we bring him back? Willis is basically a better version of him, at depth and as a potential starter.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 8, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think we should
He provides injury protection, versatility, and veteran leadership. Plus I think he’s better than any of our other depth (excluding Willis). Wrotto, Williams and Vallos haven’t really impressed me.
by Ezzra on Mar 9, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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