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Mike Thomas at 105

Mike Thomas

Birthdate: June 4, 1987

Height/Weight: 5 7" 7/8"/195

Position:WR

College: Arizona, 48 games played

Career Stats: 259 receptions, 3231 yards, 22 TDs, 45 rushes, 395 yards, 3 TDs, 30 punt  returns, 391 yards, 2 TDs

My Take: If you want to be a successful GM in the National Football League, you need to be lucky, accurate or have an angle. Lucky and accurate might be interchangeable. If we consider the total number of draft picks a GM selects in a career, and how many stars and busts it takes to separate a good GM from a bad GM, one could imagine an entire legacy founded on good timing and guessing right. The best find some sort of angle. Tim Ruskell has a reputation for targeting players undervalued because of their size. It has produced many of his best picks.

Mike Thomas is about as safe as a draft pick gets. He ensures that "safety" with his punt return ability. He projects as a top punt returner, a position Seattle could easily upgrade at. Great punt returners can be worth two touchdowns over average over a season. A good punt returner is still valuable and would still contribute at a decent clip for a third rounder, and that's about Thomas' floor: good punt returner.

Thomas could be a great wide receiver. He has the short, squatty build of Wes Welker or Steve Smith, and is arguably a better athlete than either. He's also shorter than either - somewhat significantly. Thomas is under 5'8". And that's really the essence of any critique against him. He's really, really short. He's the all-time receptions leader in Pac-10 history, but he's really, really short. He can slam dunk a basketball or outrun Percy Harvin, which is impressive, because Thomas is really, really short and has really, really short legs. He's a crisp route runner that gets monster separation, has the kind of open-field moves, speed, agility and body control to turn almost any pattern into a home run, and is known for his high character, hard work and good hands, but he's real-

It's not that his height doesn't matter, it's just how much does his height matter? He's never going to be Randy Moss, of that we can be certain. There are some patterns he won't excel at, and therefore he's not the complete wide receiver prospect like Calvin Johnson. He's not the prototypical wide receiver, but that's kind of the point. Were Thomas four inches taller, he'd probably be a top ten pick. He certainly played better, longer against top competition than Jeremy Maclin, and he certainly rates better in skills and tools than Maclin, too. So what's to say Thomas couldn't be Welker, Smith, Deion Branch or Santana Moss? Is that too short of a ceiling for a third round pick?

Targets: 93

Receptions: 63

Targets as Percent of All Pass Attempts: 28%

YPT: 7.55

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Exciting pick. It would be nice to have a speed demon anywhere on offense. He could help with PR, too? That would be a bonus.

Me: Rashad Jennings at 105.

Isn’t it 105 ?

by Misfit74 on Apr 16, 2009 5:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did I just read Thomas's vertical jump was 40.5"?

That’s pretty amazing for a 5’7" guy, isn’t it?

But from what I’ve read on the guy he projects only as a slot receiver. Since we won’t be running nearly as many 3WR sets under Knapp, and we have at least three bonafide WR’s already on the team, where would Thomas play?

I guess if he IS a Steve Smith type player, he could play flanker to TJ’s split end. Of course, if he IS Steve Smith, every single team would be stupid not to draft him ASAP.

by djafrot on Apr 16, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Smith fell to the third.

And I’m pretty sure Thomas is projected as a slot receiver because he’s short and only because he’s short.

by John Morgan on Apr 16, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you figure the mockers/scouts are ignoring his vertical?

Because I would think they’d be smart enough to figure that out.

I have to admit, the thought of a mighty-mite WR in Seahawks’ blue producing big first down catches really makes me drool. The notion that Ruskell likes to ignore size makes this a very possible scenario.

by djafrot on Apr 16, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vertical jump is independent of height

The vertical jump is only the difference between the highest point an athlete can reach and then the highest point he touches when jumping from a still position. It doesn’t matter how tall the dude is to start. 40.5 inches does indeed indicate a significant level of athleticism, but he’s still not winning many jump ball contests.

by d.alexander on Apr 16, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, shitty.

Thought I was onto something there!

by djafrot on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This kind of agility?

I even turned off the autostart for you.

Goodnight all.

by John Morgan on Apr 16, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh John, how you spoil us so.

Thanks.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 16, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His physical skills sound amazing

But what do you think about that 7.55 YPT? For a guy with those tools, shouldn’t that be higher? I wouldn’t have even noticed, but I saw that Heyward-Bey’s was 11+ earlier today.

by d.alexander on Apr 16, 2009 6:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

heyward bey got targeted less

16.7% vs 28% of all passes thrown. my extrapolation from this is that DHB was running deeper routes in general, while Thomas was getting more than a quarter of his teams passes thrown at him so there were probably a ton of quick slants and crossing patterns there.

haven’t watched either player really, but i definitely like Thomas in the 3rd more than DHB in the 2nd.

by cro-mag! on Apr 17, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Thomas better than DHB too

YPT is a new stat for me, I haven’t been able to find much data on current players but I certainly would like to know more if anyone has any insight.

by d.alexander on Apr 17, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DHB's combine performance has likely shot him to a late first-rounder.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen mocks with him going to Oakland at #7.

Mind you, I’ve also seen Percy Harvin at that spot.

by djafrot on Apr 18, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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