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For all the Ruskell-bashing that may happen, and valid or not as it may be, it's important to note that every general manager in every sport makes mistakes. There isn't a big brain that isn't debacled once in a while if he's been at the job longer than a year. In the words of Earl Weaver, "Stick around long enough, and you'll see everything. That's why you shouldn't stick around too long."

The key to great personnel acumen isn't handling success -- it's learning from failure. At this point, Tim Ruskell's first Seattle draft pick tends to look more failure-esque. Chris Spencer has had two terms tied to his four-year career: "oft-injured" and "disappointing". At the 2005 Combine, Spencer himself said that he probably had a second-round grade projection, but Seattle pulled the trigger in the first.

Four years, a boatload of injuries, and a lot of flummoxed line calls later, it's time to see how Tim Ruskell recovers from his first mistake in Seattle. Spencer is a free agent in 2010, so consider him "on loan" for sixteen games. He won't be back. Steve Vallos is an interesting project who looked completely overmatched last year. And if you think that all seventh-round centers are clueless in their inaugural campaigns, take another look at Indy's Jamey Richard against Shaun Rogers last year.

Who's the fix?

Star-divide

Fourth Round (105) - A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn State

First of all, Mike Mayock and Rob Rang LOVE Shipley -- Rob named him to his "Rang's Gang" team of under-the-radar players who shouldn't be. You can pretty much stop right there and avoid my blah-blah-blah if you'd like. Good enough for them, good enough for me.

That said, center is a weird position. It may be the only position in the game of football besides quarterback where intelligence is not a, but THE, primary necessary attribute.  We learned this from Spencer, who could drive any defender into next Tuesday when he was healthy, but struggled enough with line calls to force the Seahawks to retain the fossilized version of Chris Gray at least one season too long. Bad for Gray's legacy (which is a pretty interesting one), bad for the Seahawks.  It is a position where the list of true greats is as populated with undrafted afterthoughts as it is first-round knockouts. If I asked you whether you'd rather have Spencer as is, or the "10 holding penalties in one season" version of Robbie Tobeck, I don't think I'd have to wait too long for your answer.

On to Shipley. He's a slight reach at 105 (the dreaded short arms), and he fits every other characteristic of the "Ruskell guy". 39 starts at the position, plus a history at defensive tackle that speaks to an attacking style. Projected as a zone-blocking player only in the NFL, where his strengths will shine and his weaknesses will be hidden. Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year. Rimington Trophy winner. Team captain.

He's good at the second level, will get caught up in short areas (they'd need slightly larger guards in general -- bye-bye, Mr. Wahle), and plays with a fire and intelligence that will transfer to an offensive line that is not only changing schemes, but most positions in the next year or so. Put Shipley in the hopper for a year, let him learn, let him get reps based on Spencer's performance in the walk year, and this reach pick with physical debits (Zing!) will make it happen in 2010 and beyond. I think he'd be a great fit in the power-zone scheme the Seahawks look to be running now and in the future.

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I love it.

Probably my favorite of any of the mock draft picks so far for either you or JM.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Apr 24, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't anticipate Antoine Caldwell here, eh?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 24, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Third round?

I saw alot of mocks a few weeks ago that had him going late third to Minnesota that maybe why.

by hawkfanjp on Apr 24, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Small hands but proportionate not the little sausage fingers

Sorry I loved Bad Santa.

Seriously with smallish hands do you see any concerns with his ball handling and is 6’1" with short arms how much will that hurt him.

 At 29" arms I guess you don’t have to worry about holding calls he won’t have the wing span to reach outside.

Again on the serious good enough footwork and low center , correct?

by hawkfanjp on Apr 24, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He will come up a little high in his stance at times, but most of his flaws are coachable. Scored a 40 on his Wonderlic. Apparently, one team at the Combine put him up on the whiteboard to draw plays and show protections, and said after that they were surprised he didn’t score higher.

by Doug Farrar on Apr 24, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

40 is phenomonal

at least compared to all the other scores I’ve seen. He sounds like a great pick Doug, loving these final mock drafts from you and JM.

by LantermanC on Apr 24, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What, not impressed with Hakeem Nicks' 9?

Or was it 11?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 24, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can definitely get behind this one.

I don’t think short arms are that much of a hindrance for C’s, though.

Weez the juice!!

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Walt should be a model.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 24, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha, I was just thinking...

…that when Nate Burleson scores his first 2009 touchdown, he should do the “Big Walt Stretch” pose.

by busplunger on Apr 24, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome

good enough for Rang + good enough for Farrar = good enough for me.

by jteckmann on Apr 24, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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